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3 Cameras | Can You REALLY Tell the Difference? M5 - GFX50s - 5D MKIV
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- Опубликовано: 19 авг 2024
- I have had the opportunity to shoot with the Canon M5, the Fujifilm G5X50s and, obviously, the Canon 5D MKIV and I thought it would be interesting to compare 3 images side by side, low resolution as viewed by 99% of people. Does the quality of the image matter and can you really tell the difference? The point I am trying to make is that it’s not always about the gear. I also give my thoughts on the Canon M5; good, but not great.
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It is really refreshing to hear realistic opinion on "does the gear matter?" topic after all of that iPhone vs RED Epic nonsense.
I think you hit the nail right on the head; for us amateurs, the gear won't be the limiting factor as much as our ability to find compositions and use the gear that we have to its full ability. When you start doing pro work, you need to start matching the gear to the intended use. If you're just showing stuff on social media, take the stuff that will allow you to complete the job in the easiest way possible, but if you're looking for portfolio grade shots, the gear can make a difference, especially in landscape/astro applications
I was looking to upgrade my equipment when I saw this video, it made me realise that as an inexperienced amateur at this stage I do not need an upgrade as there are more important things that I work on. Thanks you have saved me a fortune that I will better spend on tuition at a workshop.
"I'm disappointed by this image"
*opens image*
*Image is better than anything I've ever taken before*
so basically invest in better glass (lenses) because that is where the quality lies.
Even better, invest in more practice with the gear that you already own. 🙃
One of your greatest videos, it was like having a genuine chat down the pub. I'm sticking with my 5 year old crop sensor, mostly because my outlet can't warrant the investment. Great vid 📷👍
Thomas, you half-way apologised for the video not meeting your expectations. I honestly really enjoyed it and found it very comforting. Don't need to spend much, it's all about the eye. I am still going analog as my preferred medium, and would like to know more about your experience with film in general. Cheers!
Thomas, it was a fun surprise to see myself in your video and to hear your kind words (both in the video and at the conference)! It was such a pleasure to get to meet you and to hang out in Maine. I never got a chance to return that favor of the drink you bought, so I look forward to having a chance eventually! Cheers. :)
Great points, Thomas... I would agree for beginners mostly. And no everyone is obsessed with social media as the vehicle for photography.
At some point, every serious photographer will start wanting more. More sharpness, more dynamic range, lower overall noise, more editing bandwidth. Access to high quality lenses can’t be downplayed if you care about sharpness and CA.
And editing bandwidth is huge. I went from a 20D to a 40D to a 7D to a 5DMkIV and the editing latitude I have with the raw files in the 5DMkIV are truly spectacular. In fact I rented a 5DMkIV, Sony A7RII, and Fuji XT1 to decide what my next camera would be. They RAW files were all so similar enough in Lightroom, that at the end of my test, it was the Canon L series lenses that kept me in the Canon camp. Whiz bang, next-gen features don’t outweigh superior build quality, excellent battery life, long-term reliability and world class lenses.... which Canon is by far the leader.
Very thoughtful comments. Even if the quality does not show through on social media and small devices, I enjoy looking at the great quality I get from my fill frame DSLR. Sure, I take a small mirrorless when traveling but know I am sacrificing quality that matters only to me.
image 2 - GFX
the others.. I don't know
WJR Visuals Yup, the medium format Fuji was clear. The 2 canons? Not so much.
So true Thomas. So many people are hung up on equipment and camera settings,instead of getting out there in the great outdoors with any camera.
I love my M5. I turn on the features for brighter corners and anti fringing and, low and behold, there is no purple fringing. This only works for the JPEG images but does a great job. Try it you might like the camera better. Sometimes JPEGs can turn out better than a RAW image. I do shoot Raw + JPEG so I can use either file. I set up my camera so that I have very little, or no, computer work to do. Love the EVF. I also love your videos. Best of RUclips!
Tom, please get some rest, you look worn out!
First thing on my mind after seeing this video. Lovely dreams, Thomas!
Andy Keeble I agree definitely.
Andy Keeble he's getting paid.
Not worn out typing replies to comments anyway ;)
I've been using the M5 and the 5DSR with some of the best Sigma Art and Canon L lenses and I have to say I love them both. The image quality increases by a ton when you use better lenses but I do agree with you Tom. Better gear doesn't make you a better photographer. I love that panorama you took with the M5! Great work! Most people won't know and won't care what kind of gear we use to take the photos we take as long as the images are beautiful. Keep up the good work :D
You hit the nail on the head Tom , you took the picture because you liked it! Nuf said!
With gfx50s price you can buy 2x 5dmk4:s or with 5d:s price, 4x m5:s. So based on that, m5 does darn well job being aps-c ( with better lenses, kit ones are carbage )
Myself sold couple years ago my ff canon and bunch of lenses away, because of that huge weight they add when trekking, it just took away all the fun. While ago bought m6, canon 22/2 & samyang 12/2 lenses and im very happy with them, compact and light weight, easy to carry with rest of the trekking stuffs, tents and all. Allso canon m:s are nice for everyday cameras, compared carrying ~2kg set that cant be put in pocket.
But yeah, it all comes in the end, for what purpose you want camera and what price. Myself i dont care about pixel peeking, so aps-c and small cam is fine for me :)
You should do compare between m5 and 5d, same picture with same lense before and after editing, so there people can see is 4x price difference worth it to them.
Heaton, it was awesome working with you at Acadia. I see myself in this video at 0:28 secs :-)
ha! I was at 0:26-0:28. I can believe he isn't still asleep after all that.
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I think for the most part you're right although I did pick them correctly I had to have a good look. The Canon M5 even at this resolution on my 15" laptop doesn't show much resolution in the foliage. The 5D MK IV looks plenty sharp but the Fuji has a certain look to it that gives it away. The tones are better to my eye. For what 95% of people want to do with their photos I agree it doesn't matter. Better to spend your money on trips and tuition. I still want the Fuji though.
Bryan Peterson’s book, understanding exposure, got me shooting manual, and it’s the book I recommended to everyone. Pretty cool you picked his book up to begin with too.
These type of images are particularly hard to tell, having said that, I could not tell GFX from 5D, but spotted M5 right away.
I just recently switched from the Canon 5D MkIV to the Fuji XT 2 and I am loving it. Thank you so much for the great content and get some rest!
Does fuji best than 5d iv??
Good one. All true. And I've found the lenses matter more than the camera. Not just the outright image quality, but practical features. e.g. better lenses tend to have distance scales to support manual focus and sometimes that really matters, like, when it's too dark for the camera to focus.
Thanks (again!) Thomas - "horses for courses" and "you get what you pay for". Nothing really changes in life! I own the M5 and have been very pleased as my choice was more about being in the system. The previous M's left a hell of a lot to be desired but did a job for me as 2nd or back-up cameras. Your video fed my "confirmation bias" thankfully (esp. as a calendar hopeful was taken). Keep it up.
You need to take a rest mate. I guess we all know that already that gear matters, but it´s always a joy to have your videos.
Personally I went for the Canon 5ds, not as big as a medium though with a stunning resolution for its size, despite not having full use for media from those 50mp. Good night!
I guessed :
1: M5
2: G2X50
3: 5DMkIV
Well.. only the G2X50 was right.
But I get your point and I agree with it! I really enjoyed to see a discussion about this topic that does not ignore the benefits of good equipment at all - but does also not overemphasize equipment! Love the balance! Thank you!
Thomas you are absolutely right !!
Cameras and lenses are tools like any other tools in different professions. Somebody can be a professional carpenter and need specific expensive top of the range tools to achieve the result that he/she needs to achieve for a customer. There are people that have carpentry as a hobby and their requirements are not as demanding as a professional's. They don't really need heavy expensive machinery to enjoy their hobby. By that I don't mean they don't deserve the heavy expensive machinery I am just saying they don't need it. Would you buy a Ferrari to just use it to go to the super market or for every day commuting ? Not really... Yes, buy a good safe car but you don't need a Ferrari.
Photography has been and still is my hobby for many years. My very first camera was a Lubitel 2... Yes I am talking about many years ago....Many of you here are probably too young to have even heard of this camera....so, google it. Today I am using a Nikon D610 and although there are many newer Nikon cameras ( I am a Nikon guy) out there, I don't think my photography would improve if I bought a more "advanced" camera.
I like landscape and night photography. The dynamic range as well as the noise levels in high ISOs of the D610 are within my expectations for what I do with my photographs. I never print anything bigger than A4 and most of the time my photos are viewed on a screen. I have bought most of the tools that I need for the results that I expect. The one thing that I try to improve constantly is my skills. The more skills you have the less you need expensive equipment.
The companies are out to sell the next top of the range camera or lens or whatever tool they try to sell. The only thing that is not for sale and will definitely improve you as a photographer or what ever other hobby or profession you have is your skills. All the rest is just marketing and nothing else.
Thank you Thomas for taking the time to make these videos. You are an excellent photographer and educator.
Loved that it was a honest chat, no crazy pump up, no incredible drone clips or anything fancy. Thanks for doing that. It is also something I wanted to do (comparing pictures off different lens/cameras) just without the funds to experiment with, so thank u for releasing this video ☺️
Couldn't tell the difference and totally agree with your summing up of what to use. Had a pal at college who spent all of his grant (showing my age;-) ) on a 645 medium format camera with a standard lens (couldn't even afford the prism finder!) for 'the quality' - barely took a photo with it! I had a summer job and bought a 35mm outfit with four lenses (still cost less!) and used it for years... It's not what you've got, it's where you take it - and that applies to EVERYTHING, not just photography.
Great, intelligent and rationale comments. I like the "good cameras don't make good photographers" and the fact that most photos are shown on Instagram and Facebook. Thanks keep up the good work, the great pics and the honest comments!
Tom, Deffo worth trying a Fuji XT-2 (if only for fun) - it's a beast and delivers stunning IQ with the XF lenses and is weathersealed too!. That said I'll still be lugging my D850 and beefy Nikkors unless I really need to travel light....
Glad to see I wasn't the only one with the Fuji and M5 flipped! IMO should have left each image flat with no post-processing,
I am still using a 7D MK1. I still love this camera but it has limitations. I have spent a ton of time improving the quality of my post processing and composition. One day I will need to aquire a new full frame body because the sensors are so much better. However having really quality gear will not give you really quality photographs if you don't know how to get them in the first place. Thank you for your thoughts I enjoy your channel.
Thanks a lot for your suggestion!
Canon does make an adapter for the m series camera's allowing you to use their regular EF and EFS lens. I just mention this as it would just be interesting to see taking shots on the Eos m5 with an L series lens. Would that in result in less post processing maybe?
I swapped a 5diii with 3 L lenses for a Fuji t20 and a selection of primes earlier this summer. The severe reduction of weight has revitalized my photography as it’s so much easier to go hiking in the mountains with all the kit in a day rucksack. I haven’t seen any drop in image quality. My fujinon xf 16 is a match for any canon L lens. The only ‘adaption’ has been to go from zooms to primes.
I got the 5DmkIV right, something about the image just looked "right", but swapped the M5 and the GFX. If you had more time with the GFX to shoot an image that didn't wind up needing cropping to achieve your desired photo it might have been the other way around. However, when viewed on the Internet it is really tough to tell. While good gear doesn't ensure good images (I have a 5DmkIII and L lenses plus a hard drive full of mediocrity) , it certainly helps make them easier to accomplish.
Lenses, lenses, lenses! Couple your M5 with the Sigma 18-35mm f1.8 and you might be a lot more forgiving!😉
Yes, the image quality is often butchered through the social media pipe, but quality files do help when doing post-processing. I've started in the later years do differentiate between what's important for the job - do I need premium quality files and performance, or is the 'feeling' more important. So I often choose my old 5D Classic with a 50mm instead of my 5D Mk IV.
I know you said you don't do kit reviews but if you want to try another mirrorless APS-C camera I'd suggest you hire the Fuji XT2 with a few lenses and I'd love to hear your thoughts. The lenses are rated very highly and I would say they would produce better results than the Canon M5 Glass, of which there isn't a huge selection of choice yet. A suggestion for landscape would either be the 10-24mm f4 (15-36mm equiv), or the 16-55mm f2.8 (24-82mm equiv) and perhaps 55-200 f3.5-4.8 (82-300mm equivalent) for longer reach.
I have the smaller brother to the XT-2, the XT-20 (same sensor) with 18-55mm f2.8-f4 (the cheaper and smaller option to the 16-55mm f2.8, rated well but the 16-55 is reviewed as sharper!) For cost reasons I have the 12mm Samyang f2.0 for wide shots rather than the more expensive but sharp 10-24mm f4 mentioned above.
You're welcome to download and inspect some of my images at www.flickr.com/photos/johnstoddard/
Canon makes shitty lenses for its APSC mirrorless cameras, exactly as Sony does for its line of APSC cameras. Point is, if you want a APSC camera with good to excellent lenses, go for Fuji. Period.
Yes I got all the photos correct with which camera. The M5 was the easiest to find out though. The Canon 5D Mk4 filming your video looks really really good. I like your videos even though you thought this was not your cup of tea.
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Thomas, was an honour to meet you the other day and speak to you for a couple of minutes and also a pleasure to take in your two presentations in Liverpool. Had the opportunity to be out this morning and whilst the weather and images were not the best, certainly felt inspired following your talks and just enjoyed the learning experience.
You have made some excellent points here, which are not contradictory waffle. Yes you will get the best images from the best camera in the ideal situation, but with compact cameras and phone cameras you can work on the fly and the decisive moment can, more often, be yours.
My hiking kit: Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mkii, 12-40 Pro and 75mm ED. Lee Seven5 filters. RRS TVC-23 tripod and BH40 ballhead. Exhibition quality prints up to 20x16ins. Small, light and awesome.
I have the EM1-2 with the 12-40mm IQ is superb :) . big up for m4/3 :)
Speaking from a ownership perspective It's about color depth and information in the file. I shoot as a commercial photographer and I own both Canon and PhaseOne systems. It's always the big file preference unless job requirements dictate otherwise. Social media sharing is another thing. Make prints when ever possible.
Thomas, you are quite correct, that camera quality matters but knowing the art of photography is much more important. Having said that, you should spend a little more time with the Fuji GFX, it is just an awesome landscape photographers camera. Its a beast, so well made, does everything you would want from a camera and great support from Fuji. What I am really impressed with is the dynamic range and colour rendition, especially the Fuji colour gamuts. The cost initially would be £8000, not 12000, the camera is £6000 and the 23mm lens £2,000. I bought mine on an interest free loan over 2 years. I promise you, you cant go wrong :)
I used to shoot with a Canon 5DII with just tilt/shift lenses, but moved to the Sony A7R a couple of years ago to lighten my bag. I believe by far the biggest factor in quality is the glass, and using a kit lens is not going to produce much satisfaction. To that end I use Zeiss Loxia lenses with my Sony and can get images that I can still crop and print. The Loxia is a beautiful piece of glass, and is fully manual, which is the only way I shoot. Don't know what is available for the M5, but if there's some good glass out there, go take some images and report back... BTW, I also shot with a Mamiya 645 AFDII for a while - not a camera for the field without bearers and pack animals.
Thanks, I like when the talk turns to the art, not just the equipment.
Wow! You are standing to shoulder with some great guys. Well done and glad to see you are getting recognition
I guessed only the Fuji correctly, guess is the key word. Good glass, no matter what camp you want to be a fan boy of makes a difference, only thing good about a kit lens is you don't feel as bad when it gets damaged like you do when it happens to your higher end glass, but that risk goes with the territory. That being said, it still looked like you had a great time with the M5 ( the lite weight very distant cousin of the 5d4).
The difference would show up in huge prints, and maybe smaller ones. Med. format also has more dynamic range. Between the full frame cameras there isn't too much difference. If all I would be doing is small personal prints, Internet photos, or working for a newspaper, a crop frame camera with an 18-300 zoom would work fine. But, my looking at my screen to see images on your screen isn't a comparison at all. So, you're right. The Fugi med. format is great. To really see the difference all three cameras would have to shoot the same scene at the same time..
I got to your channel because I was wondering if people were using the GFX for landscapes and have been watching videos back and forth from that point. You make great content no matter the gear and I think you hit it right by it being about going to places and just taking in the scenes in person and then maybe capturing something.
Cropability is my new thing! I’m officially stealing it! Lol
Nailed it. You can see the differences.
My wife have Eos M5 and 22mm f2 lens for family moments. Very small with pancake lens. I use this camera as backup for may photography business with EF-M to EF adapter. I can put all my canon lenses and flash units and camera takes no space in my backpack. And she only pay £660 for body plus £120 for 22mm f2 lens. Not bad for the price..
Tomas Ramoska do you find that the chromatic aberration problems are lessened by using pro lenses on the m5? And does the adapter effect the widest aperture like teleconverters do?
Chromatic Aberration is a lens issue, not a camera issue, so yes. And the adapter should not have any effect. It's just a tube designed to give the m5 the correct flange distance. Should have no effect whatsoever.
Thank you Thomas for being sincere and I've applauded when hearing you say what's the most important things for being a great photographer! No gear could make you a good one if you don't have it in yourself.
That being said, I think I would upgrade my APSC soon (without breaking my bank) as I've been using it for 2 years now and am well aware of its limitation. Trying to get past being just a photography hobbyist, I really don't want spending too much time on Lightroom amending. But I also have in mind that a better photographer could probably take better photos on an APSC than me on a FF. Oh, the irony.
Just get better lenses
You are the second person I’ve heard in a week saying that the GFX50 is hard to work with in the field if you want to be spontaneous and get results. The results look incredible when you get them but I find some cameras become a extension of your eye and your image making intentions and others can get in the way and discourage the way you want to work a little. The little Canon needs some serious glass but, is good at encouraging photography.
"Having a good camera doesn't make you a good photographer."
Well said, Thomas!
I think this fact is often neglected. I also liked that you pointed out that most people just look at a picture on their cell phone and couldn't tell the difference in image quality anyway.
Thank you for a great video as always!
This video -in my opinion- is one of the best I have seen! not for camera comparisons but fur the valuable advises that really takes years and years to develop. Thanks Thomas!
First, I wholeheartedly agree with Tom's overall note in this video, which is that of all the things that matter, gear is further towards the bottom of that list. There are plenty of incredibly inspiring pros out there using equipment that many of us amateurs would laugh at (though obviously, we're not the ones laughing last). Still, my two cents on the sure-to-be neverending gear debate is twofold. One, as many others mentioned, is that great lenses are almost always going to be larger regardless of format and they are going to have more effect on your image quality than the body all day long, so if you can accept lens size as a bit of a given, shaving any weight you can on the body may be worth it. My second point is that there is a value to a smaller body with higher pixel count. Something like the A7Rii lets you do what Tom did with the Fujifilm, which is crop way way in, and still have an acceptable final resolution. So instead of carrying a 24-70 and a 70-200, when weight really matters, you can drop the 70-200 and just accept that you'll crop anything you would have used it for. So you not only have a slightly smaller body in the mirrorless, you can also sometimes drop an entire lens out of your bag, and still be able to capture the image. It's a compromise, of course, but anytime you are talking about lighting your gear, you're talking about compromise.
That book of exposure was the first book I ever read on photography. Before videos and info was so robust as it is today. I still recommend that today to people who are new to photography.
well, I guessed them correctly. Number 2 was pretty easy and I kinda guessed that 3 was the weaker of the other 2. I thought your opinion of the M5 was done well. You explained what you didn't like but then made it clear that for the price you were ok with it. The one thing I would say is I believe there are better mirrorless options out there from Panny, Olympus, Sony and Fuji so comparing the M5 to the 5dMkIV and the GFX50s is not an apples to apples comparison. I own the M5 because I own Canon L lenses. But I do not like the adapter and do not use the L lenses on the M5. Given that it is a lesser camera since the native EOS-M lenses do not hold up for the most part. The 22 /2 is a good lens.
I like mirrorless but I think staying with Canon a great compromise for price, size and image quality is a used 5DS with a couple of quality lens that you can crop. Maybe even just 2 or 3 primes. So eg. maybe the 16-35mm f4l and an 85mm prime. And just roll with that.
Print them all 30"x45" and put them on your wall and then see how they look, side by side, at a normal viewing distance.
100% agree. With all due respect to the hard work Thomas put into this study, it really is not stringent enough to reveal the real differences between these cameras with respect to image and print quality. Especially at low-res on a monitor on RUclips with its image compression artifacts. At the end of the day, it's all about (large) print quality, as you say, Jeff.
Exactly what Tom says at 4:30
Perfect point! Even a 16x24 will do it. To me, the final print is the REAL photograph. 🙃
Medium format is a bluff
I get what your saying completely!! All 3 images look like they could have been taken with my phone...as I’m viewing on a phone screen!..printing out in large format on paper or posters yeah sure there’s a difference but for 99% of the time, and the way images are viewed now days on 5-10inch screens and the fact social media photo sharing apps use compression anyway it really does make you think what gear you ‘actually’ need!...
Purple fringing can arise from llight scattering on the beyer array over the sensor as well, it is a common problem with small sensor cameras that have high high density pixel arrays. So the CA you were talking about with the M5 may indeed be due to the camera, not the lens.
Tom, apologies this is late, just back from USA and catching up on your ace videos. You are completely correct, location, opportunity and composition are prime.
However for some of us please be aware £1200 is not cheap. Cheaper, but not cheap.
Thomas, you have done a review of shooting with the camera on the field and a review of the kit lens results. I am getting amazing results with still compact and affordable gear with the M5 plus the Canon EF-M 22mm, the Samyang 8mm UMC for Canon EF-M, the Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 STM pancake lens with the adapter, which makes it a very compact 80 mm and, when weight and cost is not an issue, the Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS with the adapter.
Hey Thomas, Sounds like its going to be a good episode however I think
15DMk4
2. FujiFilm
3.M5
Like your rambling, no need to apologize. :)
Of course gear matters, but it's what you do with that gear that matters most!
Understanding Exposure was my first book as well. I recommend it to all new photogs who ask for direction.
One of my thrilling memories when I first got into photography 25 years ago was a professional slide show on medium format of Peter Dombrovskis originals (Thomas, look him up). I'd love to have a portfolio on 4x5 or 6x7 that I could project in the same way. There's nothing like looking at true detail, and for landscapes I much prefer the "look" of 120 & 4x5. I did get the test right, but struggled because I was looking for the "look" and you'd cropped, BUT I wouldn't have picked it unless you asked us to scrutinise.
Understanding Exposure was my first photography book as well! So easy to follow and really got me into landscapes.
Picked them correctly, even at the low rez. Even though you have a point, I wouldn't be satisfied aiming for phone screen quality. Every time I get annoyed with my heavy gear I remind myself of Peter Dombrovskis who would carry incredibly heavy film gear into the Tasmanian wilderness where he would stay for weeks and come back with the best landscapes I've ever seen. Even the heavy cameras now are relatively light, so I still think its worth trying to take the best quality gear you can afford.
Sonder Creative has a video about Capture one and Lens Cast Correction. I think it will fix most of your problems with the M5.
There is a heck of a lot of emphasis on gear. The other week I dug out my 12 year old Nikon D40, all 6MPX of it and its “crap” 18-55 kit lens. It was a hassle to use with no live-view, but I shot some decent enough landscapes with it even in very poor light. Unless you are pixel peeping, for landscape photography you don’t have to spend a massive amount on gear. Wildlife photography, however, is a different matter.
I use the M5 with the 11-22, 22mm f2 and 18-55 and think the quality of the images is very good. Canon's DPP software has digital lens optimisation which works wonders on the raw files. I sold my 5d mkIII and L zooms as a result.
rjcvid Had a similar experience with the original EOS M, almost returned it when I got to see the first pics. And after DPP - they hold up really well against better kit. And that 20 mm pancake is a hidden gem IMHO.
If you want to go mirrorless there is no doubt: Fuji is lightyears ahead! Amazing X-trans sensor, incredible lens line-up, awesome firmware updates and great customer support! Thomas, i highly recommend trying the Fuji XT2, you'll love it! Even might end up selling your other gear, as has many ;-)
Well-balanced wise words, as usual. Thank you for your presence in the camera world.
Fuji X-T2 honestly is amazing. The lenses are phenomenal and the body is so compact and good to use
I definitely agree but I did place each nearly immediately just by the look of the larger sensor sizes. I love my 1Ds Mark II and 5Dc
I've seen large prints from the big Fuji and they're incredible. By some distance better than anything achievable from 35mm.
Having a smaller camera certainly helps when walking/hiking. I use a Panasonic Lumix GX8 and it is perfect for me. I can carry three lenses plus the body, tripod, and even a drone in my camera bag. As for photographic quality one of my most popular images on Flickr was taken with my iPhone so it goes to show that it's not that important what you shoot the subject with.
@Thomas Heaton Just give the Olympus E-M1 mk2 with the 12-100mm f4 a try and I promise you, you will never look back. That combo is a DREAM for any landscape photographer. The only thing it lacks is megapixels. That shot of the sunrise hitting the mountain would look amazing when you use the High Resolution feature which will give you a 50MP image with stunning detail.
In some cases you won't even need a tripod with it's 6 stop shake compensation in combination with the 12-100 f4. For your kind of photography, it's a no brainer...if you truly want to go lighter. If not, then I believe your setup is excellent.
Hi Tom I actually have the canon M5 with the adapter for the EF lens and I must say the camera does work quite a bit better than with the kit lenses, only problem I find is that with the crop sensor you need to calculate your focal length as it isn’t a full frame sensor. But apart from that a lovely little camera.
Interesting video. I received my 2018 calendar yesterday and it is very inspirational. It will encourage me to improve my photography every month of 2018. After seeing the 2018 calendar I'm sorry that I didn't buy the 2017 calendar.
could not really say for the pictures. Fully agree with you regarding the fact that gear doesn't make the photograph but I would like to add another thing along your final words - Fun. it needs to be pleasure. and that it seems that you have a lot of it
I brought the M5 and threw the kit lens in the cupboard and alternate between the Canon nifty 50mm II and 40mm. The results were staggering.
The thing with these type of comparisons:
A good, experienced photographer will always be able to have good results with impractical cameras, because he knows what will technically make a good picture even if he has to find the settings first. He will be able to surpass the limitations of "beginners cameras" with his experience, like a crappy, dark and small viewfinder, or elemental settings hidden in the options.
But if you are not experienced, a beginner dslr, or a point and shoot camera are NOT a good way to learn how to gain control over the pictures you take, because it is much harder if your camera has these limitations in the first place. Canon and Nikon design these type of cameras basically to sell you a better camera later on. And if you won´t buy a batter camera, there is a high chance your beginners camera will catch the dust or live a comfortable life in the closet.
So for all the beginners out there: Find yourself a second hand but proper camera to begin and learn.
Very genuine and authentic - I like it! :)
This video should have been 12 minutes of you taking a nap, would still click like!
I was kinda surprised when you left to alps with only kit lenses. I have M5 and I don't expect to be using kit lenses ever, well maybe 22mm F2 from Canons own line up. I will mainly go for the Samyangs and Sigma 18-35mm, for which I hope to find smaller replacement.
Maybe the fact that you were borrowed M5 by Canon limited your choices. Pity.
Absolutely agree with this. You can‘t expect the same image quality from the kit lenses compared to the L series lenses. I’m convinced you’d see the pretty much the same issues on your 5D4 if you used a kit lens with it. Thought it would be a much better comparison taking the same/similar shot with the sane lenses and different bodies.
If you watch his previous video, he shows why he took what he did. It was to reduce weight for his hike. In addition, he only had one battery with the M5.
@rndmthtz Whatever his reason is, he shouldnt have compared the images to 2 great expensive bodies the moment he decided use a kit lens on a non expensive mirrorless. If he used the same kitlens on the 50 megapixel sensor, i am very sure he will grt super high resolution of the same fringing and loss of contrast.
A happy Fuji XT-2 User here. Great features, decent price and no duff lenses in the line-up
Just for fun, paused the video right after the question, and my guess is: left: 5D4, Middle: M5, Right: GFX... But in a heavily compressed RUclips video, it's obviously not based on resolution... but on gut feeling ;)
Gfx is 1 seems that gradation transition is smooth from shadow to whites i.e. zone3 to zone 7 can be pushed a little more in contrast. 2 M5? Seems that the haze is breaking up the I age a Lil faster and the greens will start to break up into color noise faster. 3 mk4? The oranges seem to be friendly to the Canon color palette of the newer sensors i.ie. 6D tonal range very close to first image i.e. zones. My two cents even if I got it wrong happy to participate and hopefully my reasons make sense to a point...cheers
1 - M5, 2 - G5X50s, 3 - MKIV, but i'm only confident about the Fuji, the other two I couldn't tell apart at that resolution
Well Done. You provided a thoughtful account of 3 cameras. A balanced perspective is appreciated. A welcome relief from the all too common slamming products for fun.
And for people saying M5 is bad in the mirrorless line up, i’d suggest using EF lenses on m5 (which is supposed to be what canon did out of box) and you will see how good M5 is. Remember, on camera bodies, sensor size does matter. Olympuse and fujis has tiny micro 4:3 and crop sensors are used on some sony and canon mirrorless. The only reason olympus and fujis etc are great because of lens lineup but m5 body with EF lenses is very comparable and even better IQ than 4:3 tiny sensors.
P.s. i have used and post processed canon full frame, m5, and micro 4:3 images. Pushing the image on a micro 4:3 is scary bad. M5 has even better noise pattern than mark iii.