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  • Опубликовано: 29 май 2018
  • We've all seen TV snow. Whether because the TV is detuned, or just because we're trying to tune our Mega Drive into a new channel. But why, on a colour TV is this static still presented in a monochrome format? Why aren't these random signals also random colours? Well, let's delve into a byte size episode to find out a bit on how TVs work, and why colour only appears for certain signals.
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Комментарии • 774

  • @DoRC
    @DoRC 6 лет назад +1107

    Man RUclips compression did not like that static.

    • @gilberttheregular8553
      @gilberttheregular8553 6 лет назад +12

      Yeah

    • @eduardoavila646
      @eduardoavila646 6 лет назад +35

      Yeah, it had a heart attack

    • @KRAFTWERK2K6
      @KRAFTWERK2K6 5 лет назад +77

      RUclips compression doesn't like ANYTHING. Especially not fine details or video noise and even filmgrain. :(

    • @gianluca.g
      @gianluca.g 5 лет назад +43

      AWGN noise can't be compressed, entropy level is too high

    • @matthewcaylor342
      @matthewcaylor342 5 лет назад +8

      Vsauce had a video that explained this.

  • @RoyHess666
    @RoyHess666 6 лет назад +485

    RIP Bitrate

  • @bobweiss8682
    @bobweiss8682 6 лет назад +347

    NTSC sets actually have an internal circuit called a "color killer", that accomplishes this. In the absence of a valid colorburst signal, the color demodulators are shut off, giving a monochrome image.
    The color killer was needed when not all programming was in color, to prevent random bands of color from ruining a monochrome show.

    • @vwestlife
      @vwestlife 6 лет назад +52

      Also very weak signals look better in black & white than color, just like switching an FM stereo radio to mono mode on weak radio signals.

    • @JackieChad
      @JackieChad 6 лет назад +44

      I like how this entire video doesn't answer the question AT ALL, but instead this comment does. Thank you very much.

    • @ChristopherSobieniak
      @ChristopherSobieniak 6 лет назад +7

      That's what we're here for. At least for NTSC users joining in!

    • @ChristopherSobieniak
      @ChristopherSobieniak 6 лет назад +15

      This is very apparent in earlier video recordings of B&W shows aired on local stations, as you could see the color burst switch on or off whenever they go from a color intro/bumper to the B&W film. Earlier home video commercial releases also went all B&W as well for FBI Warnings, logos or any other info before or after the film.

    • @kreativenarciso4199
      @kreativenarciso4199 6 лет назад +4

      Thank you for sharing that!

  • @phazonlord0098
    @phazonlord0098 6 лет назад +178

    The compression macroblocking is strong in this one, even worse than grass. Thanks, RUclips

    • @cjc363636
      @cjc363636 5 лет назад +10

      Yep. Reminded me of early HD / ATSC in the USA. When I first got HD 100 years ago, a golf broadcast took a bumper shot of pine needles in the breeze and my 2006 HD set about had a stroke with the blockiness and digital gunk. About as bad as confetti.

  • @TaranVH
    @TaranVH 4 года назад +93

    FYI, random static is incompressible. You simply can't show it properly on RUclips unless you scale it much smaller, or reduce the framerate. This video had a ton of compression artifacts as a result.

    •  3 года назад +3

      Though if you are clever enough, you can probably come up with some signal that takes up a small-ish amount of data, but decompresses to something that looks like static.
      (You would have to specifically engineer that signal. You can't just start with any static and try to compress it. Result will depend on the codec.)

    • @stargazer7644
      @stargazer7644 3 года назад +1

      Looked fine to me

    • @MikeRosoftJH
      @MikeRosoftJH Год назад +1

      @ Well, guess you can generate pseudo-random noise with a random number generator, such as Mersenne Twister. And if you know that you have a random number generator data on input, you can reconstruct it just with the seed (initial state of the random number generator) and the number of bytes. (But usual compression algorithms do not expect to be used on pseudo-random data, and so they do not work well with them.)

    •  Год назад

      @@MikeRosoftJH Yes. What I am suggesting is to do some data analysis to separate the noise from the signal, but instead of recreating the exact noise on replay, you create synthetic noise that's is indistinguishable from the original to the human eye.

    • @fuzzywzhe
      @fuzzywzhe 2 месяца назад

      That's not true any more. Static and film grade are simulated as a repeating pattern which your brain won't detect. If you use a modern video encoder, and it detect static, it will just take a few frames, and repeat them in random order. Video encoders make NO attempt to accurately to record the true image, they just attempt to accurate record what you would visually see and there's lots of tricks.

  • @mistermatix8241
    @mistermatix8241 6 лет назад +46

    When I see a tv fizzing with white noise static, I always think of "They're here" or "don't look at the light, Carol Anne"

    • @KRAFTWERK2K6
      @KRAFTWERK2K6 5 лет назад +4

      OG Poltergeist is BEST Poltergeist.

    • @louistournas120
      @louistournas120 4 года назад

      She died pretty young. I think at 12 due to an intestinal problem.

  • @Drinkabeerandplayagameofficial
    @Drinkabeerandplayagameofficial 6 лет назад +218

    ::reads title::
    “I never thought of that”
    ::instantly clicks::
    Fun video!

  • @PacmansRevenge
    @PacmansRevenge 6 лет назад +143

    Sometimes you answer interesting questions before I know I want to learn about them. Thanks!

    • @egg4861
      @egg4861 6 лет назад +1

      Pacman's Revenge your icon is amazing

    • @havy7889
      @havy7889 4 года назад

      Pacman's Revenge Haha seriously. He makes something so small and boring really interesting to learn about

  • @hydrochloricacid2146
    @hydrochloricacid2146 6 лет назад +43

    this video actually saved me a lot of hassle in future , thanks . I'm designing a circuit to generate a PAL video signal and had completely ignored the colorburst part of the PAL signal. Thanks

  • @kingedwin
    @kingedwin 6 лет назад +22

    For those wondering, the barn is the Moulton Barn in Grand Tetons National Park near Yellowstone. And when I say "those wondering," I mean me because I know I've photographed that barn.

    • @chistinelane
      @chistinelane 4 года назад +1

      kingedwin poop do you have a beacon that activates if someone uses your picture?

  • @throttlebottle5906
    @throttlebottle5906 6 лет назад +35

    now we just have to deal with, tilling, total video loss, audio-video synch issues and the slightest of breeze, storms or ant fart knocks the signal out :))
    I preferred analog, because you could still watch weak or fluctuating signals with ghosting, snow, fading and other complex signal issues. whereas now it's either good or the whole video stream freezes solid, audio stops or it comes through in bursts and resynch's endlessly.

    • @KRAFTWERK2K6
      @KRAFTWERK2K6 5 лет назад +4

      I hear ya, dude. Digital sucks when it comes domestic Video & Audio long distance transmissions because digital knows only two states. On or Off. Analog doesn't have that drawback and goes fluid from Zero to Hero. Which is why i never understood why TV and Radio suddenly had to be turned digital. I'd rather have a noisy picture or sound rather than NO sound & picture or glitches from Hell. It should have always been both with parallel broadcasting.

    • @romangiertych5198
      @romangiertych5198 5 лет назад

      @@KRAFTWERK2K6 Is radio digital where you live? Here we have both, but digital (DAB+) is barely used, because either people use analog (FM) or just internet.

    • @KRAFTWERK2K6
      @KRAFTWERK2K6 5 лет назад +2

      @ @@romangiertych5198 : I'm German so we have both FM and DAB+ (for the moment). They actually wanna shut off FM in favor of this NON-function crap DAB+ that nobody wants and which would require all new radios.… To wipe out the last analog domain that simply works without any expensive digital patents, DRM or any form of subscription just to listen…

    • @stargazer7644
      @stargazer7644 3 года назад +1

      Except that the level at which a digital TV broadcast becomes unwatchable is much lower than an analog one. I get far more TV stations in digital than were ever watchable for me in analog. So we're still ahead.

    • @stargazer7644
      @stargazer7644 3 года назад +1

      @@KRAFTWERK2K6 Digital doesn't only know two states. At least not since the 300 baud modem. Digital has a number of discrete states, usually in both amplitude and phase.

  • @The_Future_isnt_so_Bright
    @The_Future_isnt_so_Bright 6 лет назад +155

    NTSC - Never The Same Color

    • @rotatingcat1957
      @rotatingcat1957 5 лет назад +10

      NTSC = Non Television Signal Channel

    • @francoisleveille409
      @francoisleveille409 5 лет назад +7

      No True Skin Colors

    • @adjlfanatic52livestream20
      @adjlfanatic52livestream20 5 лет назад +7

      You have to realize that NTSC came before PAL and SECAM. So since it came first they didn't know how to make good colour. Since PAL and SECAM came later, they knew how to make colour coding, hence why they look better.

    • @sneskid78
      @sneskid78 5 лет назад +1

      With the lack of analog TV broadcasts in the USA (other than the low power stuff), the color phase errors are no longer an issue.

    • @nicolaspinto2927
      @nicolaspinto2927 5 лет назад +2

      @@sneskid78 ATSC still has issues, in fact they took NTSC and somehow managed to make it even worse and ill suited to being a good standard. I'd take my slightly too pink skin tones over dropped frames, and horrid scaling mismatches any day because at least it's a pleasant experience regardless and can be managed with a little color tweaking. We screwed up when we abandoned NTSC and CRTs for this digital nonsense.

  • @LeeBondo
    @LeeBondo 6 лет назад +34

    Ahhhhh, the snow channel!

  • @georgef551
    @georgef551 6 лет назад +83

    Snow is (or was) possible with HDMI, as it draws a digital image on-the-fly, similar to how analog did.
    If the signal is messed up, you'd get "Tutti-Fruity" snow with a semi-visible image.

    • @KaiserTom
      @KaiserTom 6 лет назад +11

      It's also more to do with the protocol that is sent across the wire rather than anything special the wire does itself for the most part. We don't see snow/signal distortion today not because it no longer exists but because our modern video protocols segment the image through packets which allows a device to use error correcting algorithms when the signal does get distorted or it throws the signal out altogether if it can't, leaving a distinct square of missing or previous frame data on the screen.

    • @georgef551
      @georgef551 6 лет назад

      I figure they'd find a way to kill the snow. I've seen it happen at a Circuit City Blu-Ray setup. You can see the image, mostly, but it was all colorful snow. They were not good at catching tech failing there. :)

    • @LeafRaider
      @LeafRaider 6 лет назад

      Yep, I get coloured stuff sometimes with my dodgy hdmi cable

    • @KRAFTWERK2K6
      @KRAFTWERK2K6 5 лет назад +1

      Doesn't HDMI also contain analog signal paths as well? Just like DVI is also able to pass through VGA signals?

    • @imzjustplayin
      @imzjustplayin 5 лет назад

      @@georgef551 that's caused by either failing video splitters or some video cable hookup typically in an analog setup. Using analog video connections on HDTVs to show off the quality of the tvs... just awful.

  • @allluckyseven
    @allluckyseven 6 лет назад +28

    It still astonishes me how much data they could broadcast in 480i or something back in the days of over the air TV.
    Oh, and great choice of a b&w movie!

    • @MrStabby19812
      @MrStabby19812 6 лет назад

      allluckyseven still had your cefax/teletext info buried in there too.

    • @krashd
      @krashd 6 лет назад +1

      I think Ceefax and Teletext were unique to the UK, though I may be wrong. Not only did we have 576i instead of 480i but we also had a spangly over-the-air shitty internet thing, mind you I say it's shit now but I used to love using Teletext in the 80's to find cheats or tips for games :D

    • @MrStabby19812
      @MrStabby19812 6 лет назад

      Rob Fraser Used it for the same thing. The French had their own system too.

    • @veneratedmortal4369
      @veneratedmortal4369 6 лет назад +1

      We still have over the air tv, each station borardcasts 3 channels in one stream, 1 1080i and two 576i. Plus's the EPG data. They still use basically the same frequency as with analogue.

    • @billant2
      @billant2 5 лет назад +1

      Well it's amazing how they could actually reassemble the "old analog" transmitted signal into a decent picture, when the timings are so incredibly critical, which is so much easier now with digital's accuracy. There were some pretty smart and ingenious engineers back than.

  • @SummerADDE_Elevators
    @SummerADDE_Elevators 6 лет назад +172

    Who is gonna win, the black ants or the White ants? :P

    • @3dlabs99
      @3dlabs99 6 лет назад +21

      Seems to be a tie every time -- so they are stuck in an endless loop of rematches

    • @Admiral_Jezza
      @Admiral_Jezza 6 лет назад +19

      White is right, so...

    • @dovic2293
      @dovic2293 6 лет назад +6

      no just no you racist fucktard

    • @KuraIthys
      @KuraIthys 6 лет назад +24

      Black always wins eventually.
      The TV has to be turned off sooner or later, and when it goes, everything goes black.
      So... Black wins by default.

    • @vylbird8014
      @vylbird8014 6 лет назад +10

      Thanks to automatic gain control, the TV will always aid the losing side and prevent either achieving lasting victory.

  • @gnomeddev
    @gnomeddev 6 лет назад +78

    0:39 The COMPRESSION!

    • @Nostalgianerd
      @Nostalgianerd  6 лет назад +16

      That's some intense algorithm.

    • @pologamero2648
      @pologamero2648 6 лет назад +6

      TNTgamer71 its soooo random than the codec has no posibilities to compress with low loss of information. Im fact, most of the information from the static will be lost during the compresion process.

    • @CalamityJames.
      @CalamityJames. 6 лет назад +9

      Always a relevant Tom Scott video: ruclips.net/video/r6Rp-uo6HmI/видео.html

    • @gnomeddev
      @gnomeddev 6 лет назад +2

      James Harland I literally learnt about static from that! Tom Scott fan as well

    • @CalamityJames.
      @CalamityJames. 6 лет назад +2

      I mean, who isn't! Most of my RUclips watching consists of Tom Scott, Nostalgia Nerd, Techmoan, 8-Bit Guy, Wendover & Half as Interesting.
      Edit: Oh, and Gamehut, sorry Jon!

  • @anthonyspecf
    @anthonyspecf 6 лет назад +11

    The RUclips channel 'Technology Connections' has a great series of videos on how analog TVs works if people are looking for more info on the subject.

  • @SkuldChan42
    @SkuldChan42 6 лет назад +6

    The actual static sound is actually front end noise from the fm receiver. On US NTSC the video picture is actually an AM signal, while the audio portion is wide-fm signal.

  • @Dargonhuman
    @Dargonhuman 6 лет назад +7

    Nostalgia Nerd: Answering the burning questions I never thought to ask since 2014!

  • @twocvbloke
    @twocvbloke 6 лет назад +215

    Ah, memories of Channel 5, where pretty much everyone couldn't get it cos they picked the wrong frequency... :P

    • @kristianTV1974
      @kristianTV1974 6 лет назад +27

      twocvbloke I was working in a TV/Video place at the time, as I remember it we got a fee for going out and retuning peoples equipment to work with Channel 5. In retrospect... probably not worth it! Well, for us it was..

    • @twocvbloke
      @twocvbloke 6 лет назад +22

      In our house at the time, my TV in my bedroom was the only one in the house that could receive Channel 5 (had it tuned in during the test broadcasting before the opening night), the other TVs for some reason couldn't get it at all, not that I had much to celebrate as the signal was so crap that it was just 70% fuzz... :P

    • @TheDeeplyCynical
      @TheDeeplyCynical 6 лет назад +9

      Never had to retune for Channel 5 in Milton Keynes. As we had a Community Antenna system the cable company just shoved Channel 5 on whatever frequency that wasn't in use.

    • @Wagoo
      @Wagoo 6 лет назад +5

      The main aerial for our house pointed at a transmitter that simply did not carry channel 5 at first. I was the only one who could get it as I had a TV roof aerial on a telescope stand in the attic pointed at a different transmitter

    • @twocvbloke
      @twocvbloke 6 лет назад +3

      I used an cheap indoor set-top aerial with a Labtec booster from Argos, not sure what transmitter I was picking up with it, but it was being picked up regardless... :)

  • @wraithcadmus
    @wraithcadmus 6 лет назад +5

    "The sky above the port was the colour of television, tuned to a dead channel"
    Another victim of the march of progress. Great video, the amount of extra stuff they used to slip into signals will never cease to amaze me, where'd CEEFAX fit in?

  • @planktonic-larvae
    @planktonic-larvae 6 лет назад +1

    Thankyou!
    Byte size is what made me start following your channel and it's great to have another one after so long!

  • @Gxpblog
    @Gxpblog 6 лет назад

    Great video! Loved it! Answering a question I didn't think to ask. That's why I love your channel! 😅👍

  • @AshtonCoolman
    @AshtonCoolman 6 лет назад +214

    One day aliens will send a crystal clear, peaceful message to us explaining anti gravity technology and how to produce vast amounts power but it will be in analog and we'll never see it.

    • @CommodoreFan64
      @CommodoreFan64 6 лет назад +29

      JohnnyNismo those of us who keep our CRT TV sets will ;-)

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 6 лет назад +25

      They will think we are still primitive enough to use analogue signals. After all we are still experimenting with nuclear power and haven't arcieved world peace and the end of starvation.

    • @charlesbaker7703
      @charlesbaker7703 6 лет назад +18

      DroehnIng .--Unless they want to see the cavemen blast each other for sport....

    • @eduardoavila646
      @eduardoavila646 6 лет назад +8

      Commodorefan64 Only if you still have the antenna plugged in the tv and plus you leave the tv turned on all the time or exatly in the right time.
      So basically a few people would be able, i mean very really few people... A number so small, thay they would be considered mad. Also they would have to remember evrything or record, than a smaller number will be recording. So or we wont see it at all or a dozen of people around the globe will see and be considered mad, just that.

    • @eduardoavila646
      @eduardoavila646 6 лет назад +3

      DroehnIng Oh if they are like us they will. I mean, just for the fun, well if your entire world is dying and there is nothing to do about it, why not see what things you can do with other worlds?

  • @nawles1
    @nawles1 3 года назад

    Thanks for the corner hit. I needed that!
    Then you added a robocop snip...man this is you're finest piece of work.

  • @spritefun9362
    @spritefun9362 5 лет назад

    What an awesome vid, you deserve a lot more of a push from YT with videos like this!

  • @KingofPotatoPeople
    @KingofPotatoPeople 6 лет назад +35

    Have you done one about the wizardry of teletext? I love all this stuff!

    • @ReshiLuna
      @ReshiLuna 6 лет назад +5

      KingofPotatoPeople good idea! I love learning about this kinda stuff! Sadly, I wasn't around yet to see stuff like that..

    • @SergioEduP
      @SergioEduP 6 лет назад +2

      Yeah! This is a great idea for a video! Please make this happen!

    • @krashd
      @krashd 6 лет назад +3

      Teletext will be back, I firmly believe this internet bollocks is just a fad!

    • @darran311
      @darran311 6 лет назад

      ruclips.net/video/n7xEl6SO5Z4/видео.html

    • @McGeri
      @McGeri 6 лет назад +2

      I turned on the teletext on static, and aftet a minute it come some rabdom letters and i scared.

  • @DavidMarsden
    @DavidMarsden 6 лет назад +19

    YES.
    The best answers are the one you didn’t know you needed to know.
    Nice one.

  • @AzrielKnight
    @AzrielKnight 6 лет назад +4

    Very informative, thank you.

  • @JoshuaSabourin
    @JoshuaSabourin 6 лет назад +16

    2:21 hahaha, Johnson noise

    • @jez9999
      @jez9999 5 лет назад +1

      I don't get it :-(

    • @chrisburn7178
      @chrisburn7178 4 года назад

      @@jez9999 Johnson is a slang word for penis. There you go 😉

  • @sirflimflam
    @sirflimflam 6 лет назад +5

    Always wanted to know this back when I was a kid but never had the means to find out.

  • @suchness18
    @suchness18 6 лет назад

    Excellent question and answer. Keep the awesome content coming!

  • @AdmiralPureBlood
    @AdmiralPureBlood 5 лет назад

    Great Channel man really love these informative videos and it's really random information but that's kind of shit I like so thank you again

  • @aarongreenfield9038
    @aarongreenfield9038 6 лет назад +1

    I loved the robocop Vision calibration clip!

  • @ByteSizeThoughts
    @ByteSizeThoughts 6 лет назад +13

    Bought a Sega Saturn earlier this week which came with the RF plug to connect to my TV instead of composite wires. I had to tune my CRT to search for the channel the signal was coming through on. Haven't done that for years and years!!

    • @DragonGrafx-16
      @DragonGrafx-16 6 лет назад +1

      Or you could just buy the composite cable lol

    • @ByteSizeThoughts
      @ByteSizeThoughts 6 лет назад +3

      its on the shopping list. But I wanted to play it immediately :D

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 6 лет назад +1

      Channel 3!
      Well sometimes its 4.
      But yeah, those RF devil pitchforks are the single worst connection compared to Composite. Seriously, there is stuff like S-Video, Combonent, RGB, SCART, etc.

    • @ByteSizeThoughts
      @ByteSizeThoughts 6 лет назад

      Totally. The colour bleed is horrible with RF even with my Trinitron CRT !

    • @Clos93
      @Clos93 6 лет назад +1

      Byte Size Thoughts, if youre European, why not scart homie? If you here in the US, s-video or go home, (or scart, but that's a lot of money and headache to get to show on a NTSC tv)

  • @FabTheZen
    @FabTheZen 6 лет назад

    Very informative, thanks for the video!

  • @NicoDsSBCs
    @NicoDsSBCs 6 лет назад +9

    It's 2018 and RUclips can't even show static well. We've gone backwards...

    • @WickerBasket9
      @WickerBasket9 4 года назад +2

      It's 2020 and RUclips can't still show static very well! As a matter of fact, we're de-evolved...

  • @ergosteur
    @ergosteur 6 лет назад

    Thanks for answering a question that had been in the back of my mind for years without me knowing. I feel satisfied with this knowledge.

  • @nimrodlevy
    @nimrodlevy 6 лет назад +1

    Awesome awesome flick. Many thanks mate!

  • @dwaynezilla
    @dwaynezilla 6 лет назад

    Oh wow, this is very good; great work!

  • @thatjokerperson7062
    @thatjokerperson7062 4 года назад +8

    no one:
    me: *ACCIDENTALLY CHANGES THE TV FROM HDMI TO CHANNELS*

  • @Moco26
    @Moco26 6 лет назад +23

    New bite sized: Why doesn't no signal text reach corner?

  • @patrickdube6716
    @patrickdube6716 2 года назад

    Awesome, as usual. Thanks for the education!

  • @danielstephenson7558
    @danielstephenson7558 4 года назад

    Any video which includes footage from Bad Influence during an explanation of TV static is going to get my attention. Subbed.

  • @MercuryK52
    @MercuryK52 6 лет назад

    Great information, thanks a bunch!

  • @JJRicks
    @JJRicks 6 лет назад +1

    "Never directly hits the corner." I've only ever see it hit the corner once, in a vine. The people who witnessed it were in shock :)

  • @MrWitchblade
    @MrWitchblade 6 лет назад +1

    A strange world made simple. And the old static is still better to watch than half of what's on. Nicely done.

  • @xantheinmidget
    @xantheinmidget 6 лет назад

    Fascinating. Totalling over my head but fascinating.

  • @Justin-Hill-1987
    @Justin-Hill-1987 6 лет назад +5

    In Cuba, they used a combination of the North-American NTSC and the Russian SECAM for broadcasting in analog before switching to the Chinese DTMB standard for digital TV.

    • @krashd
      @krashd 6 лет назад +3

      SECAM was French, they were the only European nation to have their own TV standard until Russia adopted it and spread it across the Comintern.

    • @5roundsrapid263
      @5roundsrapid263 6 лет назад

      Cuba used standard NTSC, but only on VHF. I lived in the Southern US and received it a few times.

  • @WiggysanWiggysan
    @WiggysanWiggysan 6 лет назад +1

    What a brilliantly interesting video about a very boring subject !
    Top work *NN* !

  • @MarcusTDM
    @MarcusTDM 6 лет назад

    Interesting video. Am glad the days of having to tune tellies are long gone!

  • @jordanscherr6699
    @jordanscherr6699 6 лет назад

    So obvious, yet still surprising. Nice video!

  • @vcolinc
    @vcolinc 6 лет назад

    Very good question and well answered!

  • @TugAndThugComputing
    @TugAndThugComputing 4 года назад +1

    Fun Fact: A few decades ago tv audio at the tv station was sent via phone line from the audio source and then went to the tv station via phone then sent via am/fm signal to you

  • @illustriouschin
    @illustriouschin 4 года назад

    Very informative, I didn't know that I wanted to know this.

  • @MisterTipp
    @MisterTipp 6 лет назад +2

    We used to call it “ant war” in Sweden way back

  • @obvioustruth
    @obvioustruth 5 лет назад

    Excellent video.

  • @Davidonabus
    @Davidonabus 6 лет назад +1

    I'd wager that there's a very, very large portion of your audience that loves retro videogames, but don't actually play retro games, especially on retro hardware, any longer. That's why we come to you. You take all the hassle out of loving retro gaming and distill it down to a thing of beauty with not a sign of headache in sight. Thank you!

  • @juliepierson3983
    @juliepierson3983 6 лет назад +5

    RUclips’s compression of the video makes the fuzz look all blury

    • @Nostalgianerd
      @Nostalgianerd  6 лет назад +2

      JULIE PIERSON it's pretty intense.

    • @ct92404
      @ct92404 6 лет назад

      JULIE PIERSON All digital crap...well, looks like pixelated crap. We've gone backwards. Newer "better."

  • @the.internet
    @the.internet 6 лет назад

    My friend, this has answered my question to why during heatwaves here high up in the South East, when I could get Dutch TV (among others) for that glorious short time during the hottest parts of the year I could only ever get a clear picture, but no sound (simply white noise hiss audio). I could get full Teletext though, NOS was the channel, or maybe NOS2. Channel 13 I had it saved to on my parent's Ferguson VCRs presets. On a trip to Hilversum I believe I got close to that transmitter in my young adult life.
    This stuff has always fascinated me and given me a healthy(?) obsession with TV and Radio broadcasting.
    As a kid living in a high up place in the SE, I was lucky enough to be able to point my little indoor aerial upstairs in any which way to receive whichever ITV regional I liked. Upstairs in my room it was Anglia (bare in mind I was in Kent), downstairs the house aerial was pointed at London for Carlton and with a little jiggery pokery I could get Meridian which, I guess, should have been our local but never really was due to the amount of noise on the picture. Damn, remember when regional programming was so unique and mattered? You've got loads to go on for new vids!
    Love it!

  • @johnlewisbrooks
    @johnlewisbrooks 6 лет назад +1

    LOL at the black and white days. If the president was on you were GOING to miss your episode of Flipper.lmao

  • @blueprint_studios
    @blueprint_studios 3 года назад

    I‘ve searched over an hour for this answer. Thank you from Germany 🇩🇪 👌🏼

  • @jrjgames
    @jrjgames 6 лет назад

    Fascinating!

  • @Datan0de
    @Datan0de 6 лет назад

    Thank you for this!

  • @sebrassino
    @sebrassino 6 лет назад +6

    Oh youtube compression makes this painfull to watch

  • @vishva8kumara
    @vishva8kumara 4 года назад +1

    Not only older TVs - even RUclips sometimes spoofs a TV static when there is a network error.

  • @Jikyuu
    @Jikyuu 6 лет назад

    I never even thought about this. Nice.

  • @OblivionWalkerVerified
    @OblivionWalkerVerified 6 лет назад

    subbed thanks for the knowledge

  • @katelyneighteen3390
    @katelyneighteen3390 5 лет назад +2

    Now I can't stop wondering what would happen if the no signal box hit one of the corners. Thanks.

  • @dustinm2717
    @dustinm2717 4 года назад +1

    0:55 my exact thought here this was literally "hmm i wonder if he made it so it will hit the corner"
    And sure enough

  • @me4654
    @me4654 2 года назад

    Love that sound looking for a sound machine that has this true white noise!

  • @adz693
    @adz693 5 лет назад +1

    Quite interesting. I remember reading how the BBC wiped loads of the early colour Dr Who episodes. They did an appeal and got a lot of them back but some only in B&W copies. Because the colourbust signal is retained, they were able to extract it and re-colourize them.

  • @hansoak3664
    @hansoak3664 4 года назад +2

    TL;DR: The color burst is not present so there is only a B&W signal.
    Great video, though. Well worth the view.

  • @4pri792
    @4pri792 6 лет назад

    On my TV, a very small section of the No signal text can go through the left side, and a little bit appears on the right, but not vice versa

  • @kuruption1983
    @kuruption1983 6 лет назад

    awesome info

  • @dakaraius
    @dakaraius 6 лет назад

    Robocop, Bad Influence, T2 and a knob playing the drums?
    Best. Show. Ever!

  • @Billy07091996
    @Billy07091996 3 года назад

    You just answered a question I never asked myself again... nice

  • @hydrochloricacid2146
    @hydrochloricacid2146 6 лет назад +2

    Interestingly , i was thinking about TV static this afternoon lol

  • @MarkShannonroad_videos
    @MarkShannonroad_videos 6 лет назад

    My grandmother's old GTE Sylvania Superset had color snow on a open channel. It was just the way it was drawing the snow on the tube that made it colorful. Just off topic, but it was cool when you could hear audio from one station and video from another on the same channel. I could hear WGEM-TV and see KOLR-TV at the same time on the same channel.

  • @nneeerrrd
    @nneeerrrd 6 лет назад +6

    Hmmm. In my childhood static had color specks. Maybe due to SECAM dunno

    • @demoergo
      @demoergo 6 лет назад +4

      Same here in North America. In the early 80s TVs had pink multicolored snow.

  • @raakone
    @raakone Месяц назад

    Another fun fact: the way static is shown even depends on the standards. In English, it's often called "snow", part of the reason was the old 405 line monochrome standard (in modern terminology, as it actually had 376 lines interlaced, would be called 376i), if faced with static, it did tend to look more like snow on a black background. Because of the use of positive modulation. The newer standards for analog all use negative modulation, and most European languages refer to "ants" somehow, something like an ant war, ant football, or an anthill (although Romania compares it to fleas). Except Italy calls it salt and pepper, in the Netherlands and France it's snow. In Argentina it's called rain, and Japan calls it a sandstorm.

  • @thanthanasiszamp4707
    @thanthanasiszamp4707 4 года назад

    For those who don't know, the soundtrack is called "Rise of the Velcros". You can listen to it there:
    ruclips.net/video/mItatBFPCcU/видео.html
    P.S.: I had to record the audio from the video which Nostalgia Nerd made, then, isolate the music to reupload it in bad quality to my YT channel: the Content ID system, showed me the infomation so I could finaly find the soundtrack in the link I gave you.

  • @eduardoavila646
    @eduardoavila646 6 лет назад +5

    Some tvs and some services mimic it. RUclips itself does that when the connection fails.
    Its nicr actually

  • @MindinViolet
    @MindinViolet 2 года назад

    My goodness, this brings back memories.

  • @homelate1306
    @homelate1306 6 лет назад +1

    I didn’t know that, even when born in an era B&W tv was still mainstream. Thank you for another great vid!

  • @TheFerretLives
    @TheFerretLives 2 года назад

    Watching that static reminded me of something weird from the early 90s. If you had a good old portable TV with a tuning wheel (but I'm sure it would work on any TV back then) and you tuned way down to the left past all the usual main stations there was a scrambled signal. It wasn't totally scrambled like satellite channels, you could still see stuff and my memory might be fooling me but it was good enough to read titles and captions and pretty much work out what was going on. I don't think it had audio.
    Forgot to mention it only came on during the night, starting around 2am.
    It seemed to be all about health and the medical profession and aimed at said professionals, whether as a training/education tool I don't know.
    Anyone else remember this?

  • @wimwiddershins
    @wimwiddershins 6 лет назад

    Great explanation. Ahh the music of the universe.

  • @atomicskull6405
    @atomicskull6405 6 лет назад

    MPEG2 video compression used in DVD. digital television and Blu-ray uses YCrBr color space which is basically a digital version of YUV. This is because you can cut the bandwidth by 1/3'rd off the top by reducing the horizontal resolution of the color information by 1/2 (each color pixel is blended with it's immediate neighbors to color the extra brightness pixels) and also because YCrBr color space works very well with lossey image compression (JPEG image compression uses YCrBr color space for example). Note that you don;t have to cut the color data resolution (known as 4:2:2) it's possible to use 4:4:4 YCrBr where the color information and brightness information have the same resolution. It's also possible to cut the color information to one quarter of the brightness information and some web video codecs do this (4:1:1). Another interesting thing about YCrBr is that the color space has areas of "imaginary" colors that cannot exist in the reel world. The color triad of a YCrBr color space is more of a teardrop-like shape unlike the triangle of RGB color space.

  • @snootdingo9365
    @snootdingo9365 5 лет назад

    Nice nuke footage! The Day After? It was a constant fear of mine, as it was for every child in the 80's. Every time a passenger jet passed over was an excercise in nervousness and restraint...restraining yourself from running to the nearest basement and assuming the "balled-up" position.

  • @michaelhawthorne8696
    @michaelhawthorne8696 4 года назад

    Wow that took me way back to my College days when I did the City + Guilds 224 course in Electronics and B/W TV repair.......(1981-83 full time)

  • @tbx1024
    @tbx1024 5 лет назад

    I never asked myself this question. Thanks for this video!

  • @handlesrtwitterdontbelivethem
    @handlesrtwitterdontbelivethem 4 года назад

    i have crt bw portable dk tv 5 inch that has 18 analogue cable channels and i cant get the sound working in all channels how do i fix it

  • @mycosys
    @mycosys 4 года назад +1

    What you did get completely wrong is that the colour information is transmitted completely within the line, not outside it, the colorburst doesnt contain any information on the colours used in the line. It is just the reference for hue.
    Instead what the colorburst signal does is sync an internal oscillator to the phase of the colour subcarrier at the start of each line. The colour is then encoded in the difference between that phase and the phase of the subcarrier at any point in the line.
    The reason PAL has half the colour resolution to line resolution (NTSC does not) is that Phase Alternating Line colour is used to cancel out changes in the recieved phase - each line's colour is transmitted twice - once with the phase inverted so any phase distortion will cancel out. Some sets do this in electronics with a delay line, some particularly older sets just rely on your eyes to even it out.

  • @zachreddy
    @zachreddy 6 лет назад +3

    I’m just curious as an American who grew up in Arizona - we could sometimes pick up channels from cities hundreds of miles away, if there wasn’t a stronger signal on the same frequency nearby. Could people in, say, the southern UK ever tune in French SECAM signals and watch in black and white? Were there televisions sold that could handle both PAL and SECAM?

    • @musmodtos
      @musmodtos 6 лет назад +3

      Zach Reddy In the early 90s I have feint memories of Dutch TV being able to be received in our house (an advert for Trivial Pursuit of all things) , although a very grainy signal and required freakishly apt atmospheric conditions. That's in East Anglia in the UK by the way.
      No idea with the rest, the UK centric view is probably skewed as we have a fair expanse of water around us unlike continental Europe.
      I'm sure on the South Coast it would be plausible to watch mono French transmissions, I can't see many would though on principal if nothing else :P
      Unlike many nations we rarely went channel hoping (if you'll forgive the pun) as we tuned our TVs to a sort of standard in the UK, the actual broadcast frequency channels were kind of obfuscated, unlike North America everybody here by convention preset BBC1/2 to preset 1&2, the regional ITV service to 3 and I'm sure you can guess where Channel 4 resided on the remote control!
      There were only 4 terrestrial TV channels in the UK even in to the 90s, even at the end of analogue television many areas had no coverage of the late-coming 5th channel (imaginatively named Channel 5!)

    • @5roundsrapid263
      @5roundsrapid263 6 лет назад +1

      “Skip” signals are possible everywhere. Europe is no exception. The old prewar BBC was received in New York once!

    • @vylbird8014
      @vylbird8014 6 лет назад +3

      Yes, people in the UK could pick up French TV, though most TVs wouldn't work with it very well if at all. More importantly, people in France could pick up UK TV... including channel 5, which resulted in a very annoying frequency conflict for them, which is one reason the UK kept the transmitter power low and everyone in the country got a poor signal on it.

    • @ThePsiclone
      @ThePsiclone 5 лет назад

      yes we could in the South, but if you ever saw French TV...damn it was bad...all old BW movies lol ;-)

    • @girlsdrinkfeck
      @girlsdrinkfeck 4 года назад

      a minotiy could in the far south of UK but anologue satellite TV was the best to pick up all that german soft porn in the late 80s

  • @kristina80ification
    @kristina80ification 6 лет назад

    Very interesting video and I hope you have a great evening too. ;)

  • @filanfyretracker
    @filanfyretracker 6 лет назад +2

    in the US some of the VHF channels could get their audio feeds on an FM radio that uses an analog tuner.

    • @5roundsrapid263
      @5roundsrapid263 6 лет назад

      David Kearns US channel 6 touched the FM band. The audio was on 87.75MHz. Most FM radios could receive it.

    • @Gartral
      @Gartral 5 лет назад

      it was actually easy and quite handy to "Up tune" an FM radio for receive NTSC TV Audio... I did it to a portable battery powered one for my mom's friend when she started losing her hearing.

    • @WickerBasket9
      @WickerBasket9 4 года назад

      Back when I had cable and had both of my VCRs hooked up to each to my RCA 27R411T 25-inch CRT TVRCA 27R411T 25-inch CRT TV, US channel 95 touched with 101.3 Mhz while US channel 96 touched both 91.1 MHz and 101.1 MHz while US channel 97 touched 105.7 MHz (although very fuzzy). No joke, either! I used to get a whole bunch of weird signals back when I had cable TV! Well, _digital_ cable TV since I had both VCRs and my CRT connected to a digital adapter.

  • @nobeac
    @nobeac 6 лет назад

    Reminds me of the old days when I was a kid. We had a Sony TV hooked up to a roof antenna. We had all the channel buttons on the front of it because it was so old. Anyway, there was so many channels, that the last 2 buttons of channels were labeled as * and we had to tune to that particular channel and press a few switches up and press left and right buttons to make the TV tune into the other channel under it. It would have the static for a few minutes and make some weird noises. Finally when it was done with the cycling of the channel you found, you could then push back down the 2 switches and put back the little cupboard door and watch what you wanted to watch. Fun stuff.

  • @ajgelado
    @ajgelado 6 лет назад +12

    The explanation isn't quite correct. The color information ("chroma subcarrier") is interweaved with the luminance information in the picture area of the scanline. You can see this if you display a color signal in a black and white TV, where the chroma subcarrier shows as a pattern of marching dots superimposed over the black and white image. Some computer systems (i.e., Apple II, Nintendo Famicom, etc.) take advantage of this: they generate a "dotted" monochrome signal that color TVs understand as a color one. The color burst is used to detect the transmission is in color, and to help color TVs separate luminance and chrominance signals.
    Also, it isn't true that color bandwidth is halved by sending color information every two lines. Every line has complete color information on both PAL and NTSC. But in PAL, adjacent lines have their chroma signals mixed to compensate "phase errors", which cause colors to go wrong in NTSC. That is why NTSC TVs need a hue control (to correct hue shifts caused by phase errors) but PAL ones don't have (or need) them.
    How the color subcarrier works is a bit complicated, but also fascinating. The exact position of the color subcarrier "dots" encode the color of the area. Thus, the TV need a "master pattern" to compare the dots with, so it can tell what color they represent. That "master pattern" is transmitted, precisely, in the color burst.
    All of this applies equally to PAL and NTSC (we could say that PAL is "improved NTSC"). But, as the video says at the end, SECAM encodes color in a completely different way (by the way, SECAM *does* halve the color bandwidth by transmitting the red difference on odd lines and the blue difference on even lines).

    • @nitrax8629
      @nitrax8629 5 лет назад +2

      Neither explanation is quite correct, only the V channel has its phase reversed every other line. To counter-act any issues, the previous line of colour information is blended with the current one - either by a delay line in the set or by the human eye from a distance. Phase errors will then manifest as a reduction in saturation rather than hue changes (which is why PAL TVs don't have a hue control).
      The only time when PAL TVs truely had half the vertical colour information is in some early receivers that only read every other line's colour information in order to bypass a patent on the decoding system. You can easily tell these sets as they have a hue control, much like NTSC sets.

  • @Turranius
    @Turranius 6 лет назад

    Very good video. The only thing I knew was that the buzz was from the big bang =)