Glad that I live in Vancouver BC where they have no plans to retire the trackless trolley system. So many cities have made the mistake of replacing trolleys with diesel buses (considered almost universally to be more expensive to operate than trolleys), which doesn't make sense with the latest transit trends to move to clean energy.
Thank you so much for this! I really wanted to attend but life got in the way and I wasn't able to make the trip to Boston, although I did manage to get up there and take a few rides, pics and vids last month. Hopefully I can squeeze one more in before they're gone for good.
This step of stoping trolleybuses is so incredibly stupid idea. Many EU cities re going back to trolleybuses for example Berlin, Prague thanks to dual battery mode which thay can have. If you search for in motion charging trolleybuses you ll see for yourself. They have plenty of advantages, mostly when wires already exist in that current city.
Goodness gracious me! I was so happy to see that I made a cameo appearance in this video while sitting on the RTS bus when you boarded the bus at Waverly Square. It was an absolute pleasure to enjoy this fantrip with other enthusiasts who will miss the fantastic infrastructure of the trackless trolley bus routes in Boston. I would be happy to ride the MBTA Green Line out to Somerville when the extension is completed. I got the chance to ride the new MBTA Orange Line cars as well during my weekend visit to Boston, and they are awesome! If possible, I would be happy to travel with you on a transit line or a station visit. It feels so awesome to be a transportation enthusiast. Wishing you all the best on your travels, and stay awesome!
I enjoyed the ride during my college years in Boston. Hopped on the NEOPLAN once on Route 71 and the Silver Line countless times to and from Logan Airport. Was fortunate to be on one of those Nova RTS on Route 69 from Lechmere to Harvard. Nostalgic!
Wish I knew this was a thing, would have loved to go, never been on a trackless trolley, not counting the SL1,2,3. Also wish BAT did this for their trolley buses they got rid of years and years ago.
Thanks for the video. I live right off Mt. Auburn St. in Watertown and this makes me so sad. I think the plan to replace everything with diesel busses for two years makes zero sense, and I feel the plan to replace the routes with battery business seems dubious at best...
I'm wondering if the big delay on Friday had to do with this ending? i live in the Watertown area and had a huge delay on the 71/73 on my way to work because of a power issue.
How stupid of them to destroy it :(. I mean they could have rather invested the money to upgrades and expansions than starting from scratch with a completely new technology. Or if they had to they could have either sent battery buses to areas where there were no wires ultimately having way more electric lines or they could have attempted for a concept of trolleybuses equipped with additional batteries to reach farther as @Anton Novotný mentioned earlier. However I think this is not that widespread in US, but very common in Europe nowadays.
The Silver Line buses will remain on the wire a little longer, to my understanding! I think it's only the Cambridge ones that are retiring for now, but it's probably not a bad time to go take pictures of the Silver Line ones too.
@@MilesinTransit Thanks! Pretty shocking. I'd get the switch to battery in 2022--but hybrid poewrtrains in the tunnel (which is what it sounds like the Silver Line will be) doesn't seem like a great idea. Time to go to Dayton!
Quality content as usual but this one is rather melancholy given the circumstance. This whole thing seems incredibly short sited and just plain dumb. The new hybrid busses are going to cost more to make at $2 million a piece, cost more to maintain, and produce diesel emissions outside of the tunnels. Also if the issue is about deviations you could still use the catenary on a bus with batteries for when it's off corse. This is so dumb I wonder if someone at the MBTA is getting a kickback because you would think they would know better than this. Then again they run F40s under catenary on the NEC. The MBTA is run by idiots or are actively corrupt, perhaps both.
Bad decisions are made by those who do not know the difference between direct suspension trolley wire and catenary. The trollocaust has been prosecuted for decades now. with the diesel bus as the final solution.
@@MilesinTransit it’s probably a rare heritage unit video. Next week you’ll rename yourself to Miles in Transit- Elevators, Rollercoasters, alarm clocks and more
Glad that I live in Vancouver BC where they have no plans to retire the trackless trolley system. So many cities have made the mistake of replacing trolleys with diesel buses (considered almost universally to be more expensive to operate than trolleys), which doesn't make sense with the latest transit trends to move to clean energy.
Thankfully they’re replacing them (or I’m assuming at least judging by the MBTA’s recent purchase history) electric and hydrogen powered buses.
@@JoeyLovesTrains electric, okay, hydrogen, eww.
End of an era! Thanks for capturing this historic moment!
Miles and other train travelers in with him are Amazing Good People. Thank you all.
Oh, I'm so excited to squeeze a final Trolleybus ride in this Tuesday!
The BSRA did a great job this year. We had a blast. Great video - I spied myself at 1:40!
Ah heck I wish I knew this was happening, I live like right on one of these lines. Gonna miss these trolleyboys.
I can’t believe that’s happening again, another of my favourite transport systems is shutting down and I’ll die without having the chance to visit it
Watching this now reminds me of this trip I was between 4104 and 1105 the whole trip
Thank you so much for this! I really wanted to attend but life got in the way and I wasn't able to make the trip to Boston, although I did manage to get up there and take a few rides, pics and vids last month. Hopefully I can squeeze one more in before they're gone for good.
This step of stoping trolleybuses is so incredibly stupid idea. Many EU cities re going back to trolleybuses for example Berlin, Prague thanks to dual battery mode which thay can have. If you search for in motion charging trolleybuses you ll see for yourself. They have plenty of advantages, mostly when wires already exist in that current city.
Goodness gracious me! I was so happy to see that I made a cameo appearance in this video while sitting on the RTS bus when you boarded the bus at Waverly Square. It was an absolute pleasure to enjoy this fantrip with other enthusiasts who will miss the fantastic infrastructure of the trackless trolley bus routes in Boston. I would be happy to ride the MBTA Green Line out to Somerville when the extension is completed.
I got the chance to ride the new MBTA Orange Line cars as well during my weekend visit to Boston, and they are awesome! If possible, I would be happy to travel with you on a transit line or a station visit. It feels so awesome to be a transportation enthusiast.
Wishing you all the best on your travels, and stay awesome!
This looked amazing, wish I could have come... I love the TEBs so much...
At least i can watch this amazing video
I mean, Silver Line bus under 72 wires, in front of an RTS? Jeez...
May the trolleybus live forever in our hearts...
We will miss the beloved trackless trolleys of Boston
I enjoyed the ride during my college years in Boston. Hopped on the NEOPLAN once on Route 71 and the Silver Line countless times to and from Logan Airport. Was fortunate to be on one of those Nova RTS on Route 69 from Lechmere to Harvard. Nostalgic!
I WAS HERE!!
I still miss the RTS bus it was part of my childhood 😢 😔 💯
Wish I knew this was a thing, would have loved to go, never been on a trackless trolley, not counting the SL1,2,3. Also wish BAT did this for their trolley buses they got rid of years and years ago.
You've still got a couple weeks to check them out!
I'm gonna miss them too.
This is what I got to see!!!
Glad to live in Philly where we have no plans to pull a MoscowBoston
Thanks for the video. I live right off Mt. Auburn St. in Watertown and this makes me so sad. I think the plan to replace everything with diesel busses for two years makes zero sense, and I feel the plan to replace the routes with battery business seems dubious at best...
They could’ve gotten what MUNI and KCM got: GET XT40/60s!!!
309 Still Lives On!!
Gosh darn it to heck I’ve always wanted to ride those neoplans :(
They're leaving in a couple weeks so you still have some time!
I think 4104 got donated to Seashore Trolley Museum in Maine
I'm wondering if the big delay on Friday had to do with this ending? i live in the Watertown area and had a huge delay on the 71/73 on my way to work because of a power issue.
This trip happened on a Saturday so that would've been something different!
Not from Boston, but want to head up from NYC and get some footage, is it too late? Any events this sunday?
No further events that I know of, but they'll still be running in regular service on the 71/73 for a couple more weeks.
what all the trackless trollys are going away?
How stupid of them to destroy it :(. I mean they could have rather invested the money to upgrades and expansions than starting from scratch with a completely new technology. Or if they had to they could have either sent battery buses to areas where there were no wires ultimately having way more electric lines or they could have attempted for a concept of trolleybuses equipped with additional batteries to reach farther as @Anton Novotný mentioned earlier. However I think this is not that widespread in US, but very common in Europe nowadays.
Hi. I am from Poland, and I wanted to ask why the access to the MBTA website is 403 forbidden?
It shouldn't be! You're using mbta.com? Maybe try a VPN, I'm not sure!
@@MilesinTransit Isn't this lack of access a result of the GDPR?
FOAMER ALERT!!! FOAMER ALERT!!🚩
What's gotta happen to the trackless trolleys?
A Flyer Coach and a Pullman coach should have been brought down from the Seashore Trolley Museum for the farewell party
is the silver line retiring
They plan on retiring the Silver Line dual-mode buses at some point, but they'll be around longer than the Cambridge trackless trolleys.
So the Silver Line will also be totally wire-free in March? Dang!
The Silver Line buses will remain on the wire a little longer, to my understanding! I think it's only the Cambridge ones that are retiring for now, but it's probably not a bad time to go take pictures of the Silver Line ones too.
@@MilesinTransit Thanks! Pretty shocking. I'd get the switch to battery in 2022--but hybrid poewrtrains in the tunnel (which is what it sounds like the Silver Line will be) doesn't seem like a great idea. Time to go to Dayton!
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Grew up riding trackless trolleys in Chelsea and Revere in the 1950's. Too bad the MBTA is not as progressive as Dayton!
What other towns and cities had trolleybuses in the greater Boston area?
@@Improj69 Everett, Malden, Cambridge, Belmont, Watertown.
@@TomMcBoston An Everett trolleybus would have been useful. Thanks for your reply
Wait are they replacing the trackless trolleys with regular buses?
They'll be diesels for two years and then theoretically replaced by battery buses.
@@MilesinTransit SHIT!!!!
I know :(
@@MilesinTransit what a bastards! I hope Elon Musk is happy! 😠😡
What are they being replaced with?
Diesel buses for the next two years and then theoretically battery electric buses.
@@MilesinTransit what a shame!
Does this mean the XT60s will become XE60s?
I think the plan is to replace them with XDE60s with extended range batteries. One bus (1294) is a test for that.
Boston doesn't have XT60s.
0309 sound good.
Quality content as usual but this one is rather melancholy given the circumstance.
This whole thing seems incredibly short sited and just plain dumb. The new hybrid busses are going to cost more to make at $2 million a piece, cost more to maintain, and produce diesel emissions outside of the tunnels. Also if the issue is about deviations you could still use the catenary on a bus with batteries for when it's off corse. This is so dumb I wonder if someone at the MBTA is getting a kickback because you would think they would know better than this. Then again they run F40s under catenary on the NEC.
The MBTA is run by idiots or are actively corrupt, perhaps both.
Bad decisions are made by those who do not know the difference between direct suspension trolley wire and catenary. The trollocaust has been prosecuted for decades now.
with the diesel bus as the final solution.
Was this president's day???? I really missed out then.
Foamin'.
See a RTS🥰
If you want to take a real trolley, take the Red Line to ASHMONT and then take the very old and rickety trolley to Mattapan.
Miles in transit foamer arc
Hahaha, regular slightly-less-foamery content resumes next week!
@@MilesinTransit it’s probably a rare heritage unit video. Next week you’ll rename yourself to Miles in Transit- Elevators, Rollercoasters, alarm clocks and more
At the end of the day they are just buses
And the "ecologists" will come with the "holy grail": batteries! 😠😡 Just like in Basel, Switzerland in 2008!
Electric, no wires that come undone when turning corners, etc... It's the very same routes, electric vehicles.