Defence advice to government regarding Ukraine's request for the MRH-90 Taipan fleet
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- Опубликовано: 20 авг 2024
- Senator Fawcett questions the Department of Defence during Estimates regarding its advice to the Government concerning the retired MRH-90 Taipan helicopter fleet and Ukraine's request for it.
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Senator Fawcett, Thank you for asking the questions that we want answers to. Some one must be accountable (not a 'coward' committee group) for signing an order to scrap the Taipan helicopters and burying them. If the helicopters were stripped, where did all the components and parts go? How did ADF receive payment? They are desperately needed by Ukraine. I also heard that ADF is selling retired equipment at auction, as an Australian tax payer, where is this auction list available to view?
Outstanding work Senator! The rest…….well….they don’t inspire any confidence at all!
The army says the MRH-90 helicopters are useless, if the helicopters are dismantled and buried, their opinion can't be disputed. If the helicopters are given to Ukraine, and the Ukrainians get valuable use from them, then it will show that the army was lying.
Doesn't fill me with confidence in our defence leaders.
Do we have any leaders at all?
No not surprised either, it's exactly how I expected it to operate, deniabilty of responsibility is at the centre of self interest, No wonder the ADF is a basket case!!!!
No wonder no one wants to join the Armed Forces.Same with the Police.Go woke go broke.
Not me, Not me. Incompetant and or deceitful? No wonder our Defence Force is in such a mess.
Exactly
As an Australian mother who lost her Son in Ukraine, I am totally disgusted with these useless public servants. Thank you Senator Fawcett for showing us all how shallow they are, even a smirk on one of theirs faces. The lot should be sacked.
Respect senator! For these so called professional representatives to be so inadequately informed about their own position within such a situation is clearly concerning for all Australians.
Would it be fair to say they opted to refuse to mention the powerbrokers and foriegn higher achy who govern and reiterate our government.
No one is able to answer basic questions what a joke.
At that level, CDF and/or Sec, CA and Head of Capability would sign off, you know, the ones sitting at the table but no-one's putting their hand up, pathetic, gutless wonders.
Too many Chiefs - not enough Indians. ADF has one of the highest GEN to Other Ranks ratios in the western defence forces. Noting, all personnel promoted to star rank are approved by the Defence Minister (political influence in decision making might be an issue). A far more robust system would be independent promotion boards to assure civilian oversight of the military.
Answering public servant unable to give clear word on the question but plenty of errrs uums to fill in the gaps
Wouldnt be Campbell,quite hopeless.They say that the more trinkets they wear,the more useless they are.
No straight answers and trying dodge responsibility. Typical #Labor government and public service.
It has nothing to do with FPR. They told it correctly. Rather than guess and potentially inadvertently mislead you, they did the right thing and took it on notice to find the actual documents that were submitted and confirm EXACTLY who signed off on them. The more valid criticism would have been why they didn't have those documents available immediately as a reference given how hot a topic it is.
In other words they don’t know what there doing and who’s doing what 🤔🤔 it’s a kindergarten !!
Why do they all look , and sound like naughty children who have been found out?
Give Taipans a chance.
It comes across to me that there's another reason Defence doesn't want to give the Taipans to Ukraine, an ulterior motive that's being obfuscated by these other non-issues.
If Ukraine wants them, and we don't want them, give them over. It's that simple.
We need to be doing more to support Ukraine. We have a lot more capability to do that than what we're letting on.
Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦 🇦🇺
The only thing I can think of is that maybe someone in the defense department thinks that calling those helis useless but still holding onto them and hiding them for future use in case of a potential future conflict with China is not a bad idea.
If I was all the way over in Australia I wouldnt be so keen on giving any hardware I might need later because it'll end up being damn near impossible to get any kind of replacement for it in short order.
As troublesome as things look over in Europe and Ukraine at the moment and as incredibly generous as Australians want to be with their equipment, I really think they should build a bunker for those helis and put em in storage for future use if there's ever a conflict with China.
I respect the hell out of Aussies. They've been great partners with America in terms of defense and security. As an American as sad as what is going on over in Ukraine is, I am much less worried about what is going on over there than I am about what China could do in a Pacific theatre. I realize its not 1940's but to be honest the reality is that China and Russia have alot more in common than not in terms of government and they both see the USA as evil and a strategic threat they'd like to be rid of. I think Ukraine is surrounded by NATO partners who are supporting it and will continue to support it as they realize they much prefer that Ukraine border Russian than them. So I am much less concerned over the affairs of Europe than the potential of war in the Pacific. I worry that should Putin manage to achieve a certain degree of success in Ukraine it might trigger Xi to take Taiwan or North Korea to attack South Korea or God knows what.
Im not worried about Ukraine and Europe as much as China controlling the Pacific. Russia cant drive their tanks across the Atlantic. I do worry about the Pacific.
@oompaloompa7430 yeh we know all about China. They tried to cripple our economy following Covid by imposing tariffs on all our exports. They shon laser beams at our aircraft and they attacked our navy divers using a sonar ping causing deafness, not mention all the other stuff that we don't hear about.
Stop kowtowing to those professional scammers ENOUGH
Who is accountable??? Yay!
I believe they all should be going back to school and learn how the real world works
Considering Angus Campbell is Chief Of Army. He should be answering questions! Just override the Army, the Australian taxpayer owns the Taipans so the government should overrule the Army and gift them to Ukraine.
The Person responsible I believe is Major General Duckshove ...
Its actually the Support Agency. Once something has hit its end of life for one reason or another and no longer required then it is out for Disposal. Simple process really.
Disposal can be several things, Resell, Dispose as in break it apart for cannibalisation or destroy.
If resell then they sell the thing off to parties that are interested. However certain restrictions may come into play, such as approval from foreign countries if purchased overseas like the Taipan.
So maybe Defence did not get approval to onsell? Maybe they have to dispose. These are questions that need to be asked as well.
The ADF is a woke joke at this time. 💯
One individual I wouldn't think would sign off on something, it would be a committee process. However, I do believe at the end of that process, one individual should sign off as a final tick. This will never happen, though, as then one individual can't take accountability and not be held to blame.
Listen to the video again,he said I tought we had moved away from committee decisions.
@@user-hs8qj2fi9y If that's the case, does the senator not know who makes the final decision then? I'm guessing it's a guarded secret on who makes the final decision then.
I read a while ago they were going to be buried. At worst there must be a scrap metal value?
Ukraine would probably find the airframes fo value, let alone the components.
A fantastic training asset, keep them
The ADF (Army) representatives fronting the enquiry are highly indicative of those senior ADF officers who have been neutered by the Defence Minister to provide no meaningful information that might go against Labor policy.
This is understandable when all ADF one star and above promotions are at the behest of the Minister...
looks like a meeting of pinocchios
Who is paying who and who is benefiting from what. This is behind all the propaganda.
Yes, follow the money.
What a bunch of clowns🤦🏼♂️🤡. To think they each draw a huge salary and yet don’t know who is responsible for decisions just shows how flawed their decision making is. No wonder our Defence Procurement is such a mess. There is a lot of bureaucratic deadwood on display here.
Well i guess if your plan to give them to China ......... how can you then give them to Ukraine?
Looks like campbell would prefer to die on the battlefield than be saved by a non suitable taipan
Im not sure we can really afford to continually provide Ukraine with our limited military equipment.Surely Europe can provide any surplus equipment for this conflict.
Well they will charge the tax payer to bury them so let Ukraine have them
NO MORE Military hardware to Ukraine which Australia will ultimately need to defend itself.
So they are going to bury them anyway, so why not let Ukraine have them.
Albo just gave nearly a billion dollars,bugger off
Wow. So senator doesn’t post good videos. Just bad ones that make everyone upset