Will your Apple Mac SSD FAIL...?
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- Опубликовано: 2 июл 2023
- SSDs have a finite lifespan, and Apple likes to make them non-user upgradeable. How likely is it that your Mac SSD will fail? Should a soldered SSD stop you from buying a new MacBook Air or Pro?
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Regardless of whatever mystery SSD voodoo Apple is doing behind the scenes (and not telling us), my next laptop will be a Framework.
The fact that it has somehow become acceptable for RAM and SSD to be soldered and non-replaceable/non-upgradeable is atrocious. E-Waste by design.
same. I love framework's ideology and also design choices. They deserve every success
I’m dealing with a dead 2019 Intel 16” MBP right now, all because of the soldered-on NANDs. Apple is demanding over $1000+ to repair it by replacing the entire logic board. Only the NANDs are dead, but I’m forced to buy a new CPU, GPU, system memory, etc just to fix a hard drive. I told them no, and it’s currently being evaluated by a private repair business. Having a $3000 laptop die only 6 months out of warranty is damn frustrating.
Did it actually die because the SSD wore out or because of some other reason? For a machine that came out 4 years ago, you'd have to be writing absurd amounts of data to the SSD to kill it this soon.
Feel your pain. We have an i9 15” that bricked itself and we paid a fortune to have it repaired, only for the same thing to happen again within a year. It’s now a paperweight because it’s worth less than the cost of repair. Of course Tim Cook will continue to wax lyrical about environmental credentials 🙄
"In accordance with a law known as the Statutes of Limitations, consumers have this right for six years in England and for five years in Scotland" to get a repair if a component does not last as intended. So, assuming that your storage did not exceed TBWs and that there were no owner errors, in the UK (and EU) you can request a replacement. Is that not a Law in the US? The caveat is that some OEMs are reluctant and you have to push hard. I had a logic board crash and burn on an older MAC and used this law to get a replacement for a third of the price.
@@davidkorcak Well my laptop SSD died in 3 years... I replaced the 256gb with a 1 TB one. Maybe a played a lot of game innit. Also used to render a lot of stuff in Adobe and blender. Who knows.
@@reubenpx1809 I ran the numbers from my current 14" MBP and it works out to be about 2600TBW for the lifespan of the 1TB SSD option
I wouldn’t be surprised if EU would add another rule for Apple and computer manufacturers to make it possible for end users to change their hardware components. I heard they are in the process of making changeable batteries like old Nokias used to have. I used to carry around another battery with my old phone back in the early tech days 😅
Though, that would set them back in the grand scheme of making their products work fast and seamlessly.
No, they have looked at that and decided that because we accept ARM (SOC) on tablets and smartphones that arguably can be used harder than laptops, it would be unfair to label laptops just because people are used to older modular designs. In this case, tech advancement trumps consumers' worries about longevity.
@@andyH_England it can be done, about 22 years ago Sony had a laptop that was thinner that the MacBook air that was easier to service that most computers available today, it had a socketed CPU removable ram, wifi cars, keyboard, trackpad and HDD.
I have seen off brand laptops with modern cups on removable module from China, some looking like raspberry pie compute module.
@@nicholaswjamrock Sony PCs did that, but it was not a selling point to the core market; hence, they went out of business. There is a vocal niche demographic that wants modularity despite tech advancing to the point where it is moot, and they were in the good old days of modularity and are stuck in that mindset. Let me ask you if all laptops had an SoC with no modularity but were 100% reliable, then would it matter? The question revolved more around people wanting to upgrade cheaply and save money.
Apple should hire this guy as VP of excuse-making. Apple has ALWAYS put far less RAM and much smaller hard drives in their computers. Now they put much smaller, IRREPLACEABLE drives into their computers, along with permanently soldered RAM. This 30+ year Mac users got tired of being screwed... no more Macs for me!!!
The M macs are good machines, just keep in mind that if the SSD fail the whole machine gets bricked as even to boot from an external drive the SSD needs to be alive. that does not happen to PCs as you can boot windows on external drive and use the PC just fine even if its soldered to the mother board.
i actually have no problem with the ssd being soldered on. my issue is that those chips aren't for sale so that even repair shops that are able to do that type of repair can not do it.
I think you missed one point: laptop can fail for many other reasons than SSD, like coffee spill on the keyboard, fall from table... With a "regular" laptop, just pop the SSD out and hook it up to any system using an USB adaptor, and in less than 20 minutes you are back working. With soldered SSD, have to send the laptop to repair, knowing that your important and confidential data is locked inside and potentially accessible to the "genius" who will fix your system. Sure have backup... from few hours / days before. This is the only reason I stick to Lenovo Thinkpad 😃
That is a valid point, that I should have made more clear in the video. 👍🏻 And kudos on the Thinkpad 😁
I would add that keeping any mission critical data on a single drive is going to end in tears at some point. As you say, that will be even worse if you risk losing it when any component fails! As a side note, most PC laptop vendors will want the original equipment in the machine when it goes back for warranty… and they sometimes wipe drives, whether the repair needs it or not. I’ve experienced this with HP and Dell. That doesn’t stop you taking the drive out and backing it up/cloning it first (assuming it’s going back for a non-SSD failure) - but something for viewers to be aware of. If data is confidential, use drive encryption and set up another user account before sending the machine for service.
Nothing beats good backup routines! At minimum, I recommend using Samsung T7 drives for easy backups - they’re fast and inexpensive. macOS Time Machine is very easy to use with one of those drives, with its one-click setup.
You just got lucky
I've had the SSD part of the Fusion drive in my Mac Mini fail
Fortunately, these were still replaceable (and with an adaptor , converted to M.2)
Apple's RAM and SSD are a pure scam by Tim Crook
256 GB extra for the price of 4 TB in NVME format !
The worry is more of how do you get it repaired 3 years after the purchase? Alot of videos explains why it is futile and its almost a brick when ssd fails.
The MOST important thing to me is, if the soldered SSD is buggered can I still boot the computer off an external backup drive as I do with my old Mac that I use now? Well if the SSD goes short circuit I think that will be a NO but, even if the SSD doesn't go short; it will still be a NO, 'cos the initial boot code that used to exist on an 8K chip is now on the SSD so, one is buggered all round. I will not be buying any of these crap designed rip-off Macs.
One of the problems I'd like Apple to address is the keyboard and trackpad randomly switching off. Started on my MacBook Air M1 in the first 6 months or so, Apple Store said try a full reinstall, which I did, went away for 12 months and now it's back again. I don't think this is a regular hardware issue. I've done another reinstall but it's still here. Usually noticeable when opening the lid from sleep but after a while it'll start happening while using it. Anyone else here figured this one out? I've seen lots of people have the same issue and had whole machine replaced but the issue is still there.
Well in apples defense soldering an SSD to the motherboard is not a silly design choice. It's an excellent way to get you to buy more MacBooks. I mean if you could just easily swap out the SSD for a couple hundred bucks you aren't going to drop a grand on a new MacBook. We need to be good little customers and consume as many apples as we can. Now throw that MacBook in the trash and buy a new one. Geez it's ancient it's almost 6 months old.
I'm not sure. If your motherboard has to be replaced because of a failing capacitor you won't ever buy another macbook in your life, and you'll tell everyone to stay away from apple products. If it last for years without issues you'll suggest everyone to get one so that they buy one and they can steal market from windows. This can't be a business strategy. If this soldered stuff won't work out for them then apple is done for sure.
Thank you for the info.
Informative video. If the SSD failed within 6 years and you bought it in the UK then you might be covered by the UK consumer protection law, as you could argue strongly that the component was faulty because it should be fit to last. This would save the expensive AppleCare that only covers an extra 2 years.
Very true, but it’s important to buy from an Apple Store if you want to rely on this. The retailer is the party responsible. It also doesn’t apply if you buy for business (freelancers etc. should use a personal credit card and expense the purchase to their business) 😁
I have a similar experience with SSDs. I've been using SSDs since 2012. My first SSD was a crucial SATA 6 M4 512GB drive that I used to replace the HDD in a mid-2009 MacBook Pro 15. The MacBook's display failed but the SSD still works! I've had HDDs, USB thumb drives and MicroSD cards fail, but all the SSDs I've purchased since are fully functional. My current Apple PC is M2 MacBook Pro 13 with 2TB storage. I wanted to try Sonoma developer release using a dual boot set-up, but as my internal SSD was two thirds full, I installed Sonoma on a SanDisk Pro-G40 TB3 1 TB SSD formatted as an APFS volume. I was surprised that this external TB3 SSD has read and write speeds almost as fast as the MacBook's internal SSD, using Black Magic's disk speed test. So, there are viable, if not pretty, ways to expand your Mac PCs hardwired SSD storage.
from some tests, while benchmarks are great, there is a lot of latency compared to the internal storage, so general system performance is not the same
My 2012 MBP was using a removable SSD for years. It failed with 1% health after 7 years. The laptop was running for 24x7 since 2016.
Luckily it is user replaceable so out goes the old SSD and in with the new SSD under 30 mins including reinstalling Catalina.
I'm planning to upgrade to the M2 soon but still thinking and reading before making the splash.
laptops shouldn't be running 24/7 ... that's a workstation ... you are misusing the laptop as a workstation.
Tip: You can install and use mac os on external SSD and use just like the internal drive. If you buy a fast SSD enclosure and fast SSD you will not notice a difference
@@RunForPeace-hk1cu lol wtf u sayin
2011 MacBook Air with 64gb storage still rocking with an old flash drive.
The other thing that is not mentioned. that is i have personally worked on an have experienced other people who have brought in there brand new Machine because of a surface mounted component burns out or fails then makes it so that if the customers data is lost. and so if you dont put all of your data on icloud then you will not get your data back from the dead machine that Apple has made non functional dude to the tiny capacitors, chokes, small proprietary microchips failing in there devices. on top of all of this Louis Rossman points out how even replacing a holo effect sensor cannot even be replaced or swapped out without the use of reprograming of the serial number with Apples custom proprietary software. so thats great that the SSD's are strong but all of the other components can fail and you will still lose your data, unless you buy iCloud and put every bit of your data on there servers.
It’s frustrating, but we need to adopt new methods of working with our data. I view my system drive as “working space”, and I store no critical data there that doesn’t exist somewhere else. Cloud for all documents, external SSDs for working files, NAS for longer term storage, and multiple external backups for cold storage. Not everyone needs to go to those lengths, but having all your data on a single computer is an outdated paradigm.
This is a new world of computing. Users appear to want to reside in the past and how we did computing back then. This stops progress and we have seen what a revolution Apple Silicon has been. In any case, your whole case falls to pieces as tablets and the omnipresent smartphones that may hold as much or even more data are all, even Android, built on the same logic as Apple Silicon, ergo a SOC. Why are people not whining about that? It is because from day 1 that is how they were made and people are used to that. Like Stockholm Syndrome, many people still believe that the older modular logic boards are still relevant and yet they are fine with smartphones and tablets!!!
@@ConstantGeekery I'm sure you're aware of how much money Apple makes and profits off of our ignorance to buy their products. they turn a $300 device to make the iPhone in China and then take it to the extreme to charge us $1,200 for their iPhones that we are so beholden to. Apple has done nothing but create an addiction and a way for them to purely profit off of it. think about something as simple as tobacco If you could easily solve addictions then why would you think that this companies continue to stay in business as long as they have. Apple is the highest force in the power of marketing, when they're not selling their devices and hardware is harder to create and produce they turn to services for people who already have their products. They are a company of pure greed they make so much money in so many different ways. They're afraid of the spear that is the term called "Repair" and if they open it up to the masses then their empire will crumble instantly, instead of being forced to buy new devices.
@@ConstantGeekery On the line of like fixing tobacco in a sort of sense of addictions. Yes there are solutions to mitigate it and to go down the path of recovery. It's kind of like the term of once you open up the door to what is possible for somebody there is no closing it. For Apple if you say that an iPhone 14 Pro Max can be repaired without Apple's consent and blessings then all of a sudden that would make you a traitor to Apple and that Apple thinks oh you hacked our products poor me call the FBI. You're using our products the way that they're not supposed to be intended to which is called "Repair" and the notion that Apple thinks that you should believe that your phone should not be repairable and that when something breaks you should just buy another one.
@@andyH_England I am referring to repairability. Apple's laptops they're very nice and expensive devices is what Apple wants you to believe. Apple's bill of materials for the iPhone is $300, what is the build of materials for these other devices for Apple makes? Could a MacBook Pro cost them $500 - $700? then profit all the way to $3,999+? I think there's secrets that obviously Apple knows that clearly if we saw behind the curtain like in wizard of Oz imagine how differently Apple could lose market share instantly if it was revealed to the world how much Apple has been able to dominate push down kick over anyone who is in their way just because of how large they are.
Povídali že mu hráli nemožnost výměny SSD je jeden ze zásadních problémů celé koncepce Apple stejně tak jako to že v základním modelu MAC je jen 256 Gb úložiště což je doslova výsměch v době kdy nikdo normální si nestaví počítač s menším SSD než 1Tb .
Had Apple wanted to, they could have easily enough have multi-tier storage and RAM support in Apple Silicon MacBooks: allow to insert cheap and slower but larger DRAM module and having NVMe drive slot and say, twice the integrated amount of RAM of SLC cache for swap along regular flash.
Sounds terrible
Apple is a premium brand. If you want cheaper stuff, as a consumer, you can choose another brand. Just buy extra RAM if you are using a lot of swaps, that is the sensible solution.
I believe that interfaces for user-serviceable components are actually an additional point of failure and a cost driver in computers. Also, I assume that most users are not into tinkering around with their computers. In my case, I have work to do. If my MacBook Air breaks, I will fire up one of my spares, then either fix the broken one or sell it for parts to somebody who likes to tinker.
Grandpa sitting in his rocker: "Many moons ago, I learned that it is not if, but when, storage fails". This goes under the "Don't be scared, be prepared". Even a brand new M2 NVMe 4Tb can be ded on arrival. I manage and have managed many large datacenters, where we had dedicated disk technicians, aka swappers, to follow a printout, which became an internal website, of the failures with the exact location of the machines. We keep a log of machines that have more failures and will eventually swap those out first. Most datacenters in the world use spinning drives, they are cheap, easy to keep cool and in large data pools they are offering plenty IOPS. Looking at our consumer use of SSD's (and I am putting M.2 and NVMe drives in there too) they can easily expect 5 to 8 years of service without issues. Such does depend on the amount of data written, "removed" and of course how ofter the drive is trimmed. With the 8Gb systems and the current OS memory pressures we see swap being used a lot more and even with larger amount of memory the swap might still be important. Windows, by default, always reserves the amount of memory as swap space (can be changed in settings). The reliability of SSD's has majorly improved as different designs made them more power efficient, less power, better controllers, but the 3D NAND technology was the break through. No, as consumer, you would not need to worry much, if you run a company it is a part of risk mitigation. I have made it standard in my use of computers, to always put at least 200 dollars a month aside for future investments in the next computer. As a company you want to write down (depreciate) the storages and systems in 2 or 3 years. Most companies will charge an arm and a leg to maintain "legacy" systems.
Wise words.
the major issue is Apple M soc ssd use a T2 chip to store the BIOs and IC voltage regulator by Texas Instruments shorts out the ssd and bios. this requires motherboard replacement or risky solder repair.
U do not combine cells! U just change the encoding to less voltage levels!
What about the tps562180 chip's propensity for burning out and sending power from the 13v rail to the 3v rail frying the ssd on all 16 inch? This chip fails so often 3rd party repair shops know how to recognize the issue within 5 minutes of opening it.
The focus of this video is not hardware faults, but whether the SSD will wear out from normal use. Wasn’t the chip you mention an issue in the Intel MBP?
Certainly don't miss the cursed T2 MacBook Pro!
That’s what I’ve got. Died 2 weeks ago. Will cost a fortune to fix.
We had a lot of problems with those, although not with the SSD.
Mine failed (2017 15in MacBook Pro) after 5 and half years of usage and good care 😢
I really want an 11" Macbook Air, but I have to figure out which year models that I should shun, with regards to T2 and user upgradeable storage and user replaceable battery. I slam linux into 'em to turn them useful. Hrrm.
If you can find an early 2015 with 8GB of ram, that will be the machine to get. None of the 2015 macs would have a T1 let alone a T2 chip.
SSD failure is a secondary problem when you can't access your DATA when ANY of the other components fail. What sort of paid ad is this?
It's a piece of content to look at an issue from different perspectives. I find it interesting to do that and keep an open mind. There are many different use cases and user needs, and what works for one doesn't work for another.
Apple is not sending my little channel manilla envelopes stuffed with cash, particularly when I said clearly in this video (and in multiple other videos) that soldering SSDs to the logic board is stupid. Then, so is keeping critical data on such a drive without having backups.
However, if one wants or need macOS - and many do - then they have to live with it. Better to understand the issues and the technology than live in fear of it failing and be caught out if it does.
@@ConstantGeekery we have tablets and phones for the "thin client" use cases. A "computer" has to be able to persist data. An onboard ssd would mean your data is as safe as the weakest component that is soldered on to the motherboard. It's not fit for purpose.
@@rahantr1 it’s a stupid design choice motivated by corporate greed.
That G-Shock!
Great Video and excellent explanation!
Thank you!
C'mon now... It only needs to last as long as the warranty period. Apple makes money by selling you another Mac. Users are heavily invested in the Apple ecosystem so they almost surely won't leave. The best part is the BIOS of the computer is contained on the NAND chips so not even a surface level board repair can fix an Apple silicon Mac with dead storage. Genius.
TBW is the most inaccurate measurement.
If I use half of my storage for stuff like pictures, videos or other files that just stays there forever then you can't expect the same TBW from your SSD compared to when it is almost empty.
TBW is only accurate if files are constantly being rewritten althroughout the drive's life because wear leveling is distributed evenly. This is why TBW life is increased as storage is also increased.
If there are files that just stays there without being deleted then that part of the SSD is not being rewritten and those which are empty are getting more writes instead. And as time goes on these would start to fail which would cause the demise of your SSD.
So in general, don't fill up your SSD if you want it to last longer.
Can confirm the built-in diagnostic shows very high lifespans. My 1TB 14" MBP says 2 % of SSD life used at 50 TBW, so 2500TBW for the whole 100 %. Regular off-the-shelf 1TB SSDs are specced at 600 TBW usually, rarely at 1000TBW.
it all depends on the usage, i have a very bad ssd, i used it daily for like two years, it is just 120gbs, and when i gave it to a fiend, it had 3% of usage
but i used it mostly for daily use, not for games or download stuff, web browsing, some office stuff, nothing weird
a user editing video or images will reach that tbw alot faster
how did you find lifespan of your ssd🤔
The models with less capacity (256/512gb) have a significantly lower TBW rating than your 1TB model.
@@akfortyfo7024 The amount of spare cells to replace weared ones and the average number of writes to a cell per timeframe is proportional resp. inverse proportional to SSD size (roughly) , so you may expect a 256GB SSD wearing out four times as fast as a 1TB ssd, but this would still be about 12 years of expected lifetime with my usage pattern (see above), which is considered power usage by system administrators.
great video. i wished that you would of said how long generally speaking and at a minimum with normal use like no video or music rendering that the drive could last
anyway i subbed
Thanks for the sub. Actual lifespan varies depending on size of drive and how much it is used, so it’s impossible to give a definitive timespan. There are early MacBook Airs still running with the original drive - we had one that was 10 years old and still working fine. 🤷🏼♂️
Dead SSD on 2019 Intel 16” MBP. Do not let your AppleCare expire as long as you need the computer.
do you mention in the video how much it costs to send the computer to apple to replace a broken SSD out of warranty?
I did check, but Apple don’t publish a price for SSD replacement. The cost will inevitably vary depending on the consumer rights legislation in your region. If you take out the AppleCare insurance, then there wouldn’t be a cost per incident.
@@ConstantGeekery WOW, you are kidding right. Do you know if they have to replace the MB?
@@olegyamleq7796 They could replace the NAND chips. It's not a difficult job for an experienced engineer with the right equipment.
I expect there are also circumstances when they will also swap out a board for speed of returning the computer to the customer. In that case you'd hope they repair and reuse the faulty one. 🤷🏼♂
@@ConstantGeekery Have you ever watched Louis Rossmann videos? Apple does not do component repair. If there is a 99 cent part that is broken, they will replace the whole board instead of making the repair. So, how much does it cost for a new MB and new SSD and the labor to replace an SSD out of warranty? It is your video. You brought up the fact that it is not a problem to have an SSD soldered on. :-)
@@olegyamleq7796 That does not mean that the old board will not be repaired by Apple at their specialist sites? It is usually for convenience to locally replace the logic board and then the repair of the old board can be completed in their own time, especially in the last few years when there may have been component supply issues. That is generally how they repair phones. They give you a refurb and send the broken one back to their specialist repair site to be repaired, for sale or as a replacement for broken iPhones.
Thanks!
Thank you for the peace of mind.
Thanks for your clear and concise views (as always). I ignored all of the click-baiting about SSDs last year when I bought my base M1 Studio Max because I was never going to abuse the hardware by transferring insane amounts of data. However, I did purchase two years of Applecare. Why? Because that thing cost me a lot of money and it was worth it to protect my investment.
Do iPhones have SSD failures? Same tech used in Mac laptops, right? I personally don’t worry about it.
How much life can one reasonably expect out a mostly mainstream configuration? Something like 1TB on a M1 Macbook air with 16gb RAM for example? Assuming let's say 500gb usage total.
SSDs have a warranted lifespan measured in TBW (terabytes written). This is usually in the order of 600 TBW for a 1TB drive. That’s not to say it will fail when it reaches that number, rather that’s the average that the manufacturer is happy to guarantee.
Apple does not publish a TBW figure. Most of their drives seem to be exceeding the industry expected figures.
600 TBW would take an average user anything from 10 to 40 years. Hence why I say the SSD will outlast the useful life of the machine in most cases.
I’m regularly using my Dad’s old 2013 MacBook Pro (which does have a replaceable SSD to be fair) but it’s still the original drive and it’s not broken yet. So I’m not too worried!
L is Level not layer! Comes from voltage levels! Cells are cells! The way that u use them is different. Also, some controllers will use part of the NAND as SLC and part as tlc/qlc.
The L in SLC and MLC is “level”. In TLC and QLC it’s referred to as both “level” and “layer”. I did describe pSLC emulation in the video.
EDIT: I've been using both terms, because I've seen both in use, but I'm going to stick to "level" in future to avoid confusion. Most of the manufacturers are using that term. 👍🏻
@@ConstantGeekery I think you are confusing the 2 notions that are indeed properties of the NAND IC. Level is related to voltage intervals and is more or less logic/software property while layer is related to spacial 3d stacking and is a physical/manufacturing property.
Let's not forget that endurance of SSDs (TBW) increases with size capacity.
The problem initially is not with the soldered SSD per se, but with its voltage regulator chip. When the latter shorts, it applies the full Vcc to the SSD chips, frying them. ruclips.net/video/7cNg_ifibCQ/видео.html
Is that not specific to Intel MacBook Pro models?
@@ConstantGeekery I'm not sure. But it certainly reeks of shoddy design, if my, and mr rossman's experiences, are anything to go by. Going back, m.2 NVMe is NOT a bad thing, the way apfel is implying.
No matter how you look at this there’s absolutely no reason why not to offer removable ssd and ram ports to premium devices such as Apple . There’s only one reason why Apple chooses to do this and it’s greed.
by my calculation, 1tb, looking at 10 years with normal use, I made an applescript to calculate this.
My 16Gb Macbook Pro M1 Pro swaps Gbs to the SSD all the time, despite I use an external SSD for most of my work. I am seriously worried about how long my Mac will last.
Only one thing has to fail, the repair cost is greater than the Mac is worth and it becomes eWaste.
That Apple doesn't provide details of what it has done, is not reasuring at all. In my long experience of Apple they definitely cheap out where they can save a few a pennies and the customer won't find out till it is too late.
Please do not worry about most swaps to the SSD as it goes into dRAM rather than the SSD flash. That is much more performant and resilient and will not wear out within the life of the laptop. The bigger the SSD the greater the writes so if you have a 1TB SSD it will last 4X as long as a 256GB one but sounds like you do not perform high amounts of sequential writes (external drive). You should not be concerned. Maybe if your workflow needs more than 16GB then you would be better with 32GB next time?
@@andyH_England Next time will be a while off. The Macbook had better last me 10 years, it was not cheap.
How many Gbs does the dRAM have, because I get regularly 1.6 to 2.7Gb of swap.
I would have thought that 16gb would be enough, but belatedly found out just how much of that shared RAM is shared with the GPU, especially as I use 2 external 4k displays. Which btw are not attached when I get that swap above.
@@peterbreis5407 The dRAM total is determined by the storage amount. I assume that if you have 512GB then two NAND modules @ 2-3GB of dRAM each. I believe that M1 1TB had 4XNAND modules so 4X 2-3GB each. So 16GB equates to a quasi 20-22GB RAM on the 512GB. So if you keep below that then you will not need to use the flash storage for writes and SSD life will not suffer.
You have to change your philosophy on unified RAM as unlike Windows RAM it is non-volatile, so Mac RAM can hold OS cache as well as the usual RAM. It also, as you say, is used for the GPU. Non-volatile gives it that instant wake advantage. Apple will use that RAM ad hoc as it is the fastest bandwidth for how fast Macs seem.
@@andyH_England That is somewhat reassuring, but I do notice slowdowns if I have a large amount of screen real estate, even on occasion part blanking out of screen in browsers.
@@peterbreis5407 That may be partly due to the bandwidth issue on the M1s that were fixed on the M2s (doubled). Could also be a memory leak which does occur on Safari (and other browsers) at times. I use Firefox which seems to not suffer this leak.
It would have been useful to explain RISC (and its British history) in order to clarify that what Apple calls 'silicon' is a totally different type of architecture from 'hot' processor types.
Many semi-geeks still keep the CPU, GPU, RAM and storage model in their heads.
It has changed the way we think about computing. I did do an explainer video on Apple Silicon and its heritage a couple of years ago. Probably time to do an updated version of that 👍🏻
It isn't just whether or not it will fail (it will btw), but the fact that it is a rip off for what they charge you for the SSD compacity to begin with. It's as if it is forgotten that part of swapping out a SSD isn't just about endurance, but also compacity. Of which, that alone on quality drives dramatically tends to increase endurance (TBW endurance) on SSD's and when we're talking expensive machines like macs that's a big deal.
When you pair it with record lows for flash storage nowadays it's honestly not an acceptable deal. That said, I let someone else pay the dumb prices on it for me. Shout out to all the folks that paid that extra for me to just get it basically brand new refurbished in mint condition for less. I would never support that nonsense. The $500 discount allowed me to get the extra storage and RAM a modern laptop should come default with while not getting ripped off like others just because a piece bitten fruit is on it.
I have a 256GB Mac Mini. After 1 year the disk had a total of 5TBW. At this rate I should have about 29 more years before it might fail. The panic about Mac SSDs having a short life span (especially because of swap memory) is the biggest false alarm since Y2K.
My M1 mac mini ssd died at 16 TBW.
the ssd and other arts fail after the warranty since apple only offers 1 year warranty standard
They comply with consumer rights in the UK, which is 6 years. Most manufacturers only officially offer 1 year, but in my experience of 100s of different Macs and PCs, Apple has been the best overall at honouring warranties and sorting out problems. I've also seen that no matter which manufacturer you buy, failure due to faulty components is rare. To date, nobody has been able to show me any evidence of Apple SSDs failing prematurely due to wear. I have 10 year old machines still working just fine.
My 2020 Macbook Pro A2251 just died today 2024 after an SSD error which killed the computer out of no where, now I need a logic board replacement cause apple decided to solder the ssd onto the board... so yeah I'm getting a Chinese board which has a separated space for the SSD, THANK YOU APPLE!
My 1st gen MacBook Pro Retina from 2012 is still running fine. Of course I was not a power user, just regular daily user. So from this point of view - "normal" user should have no issues with it. My friend bought it from me and he is quite happy with it. Yes, it doesn't get the latest macOS updates, but for him for his web browsing and some easy work it is perfectly fine... The only thing I had to replace was the battery of course... And yes, the display was one of the "defective" ones that showed the ghosts of static images... but it still feels quick, much faster than any PC laptop from those time, doesn't matter of the price tag those days...
I did DriveDX analysis on my Apple Silicon and Intel Macs and my analysis showed that the SSD would be worn out in 100 years. The Intel SSDs had more wear because they have been used far longer but we're still talking about decades. One interesting thing about the Studio is that the SSDs might be replaceable. I've seen some video titles talking about the possibility of replacing them as I think that they are socketed.
Yeah the SSD in Mac Studio is replaceable but it's tied to the motheboard. So even if you replace it it won't work.
@@ProtectusCZ That might change. It appears that there are some tools in the Apple Repair Kit to replace it.
@@movdqa it’ll possible after you pay Apple horrendous amount of money.
@@ProtectusCZ I'm sure that's the case. But it may beat buying a new one with more storage and selling your old one.
I saw a video recently from a company that was successfully changing Mac Studio SSDs. The process is specific (the Ultra version labels its SSD sockets the opposite way round to the Max version, which is what has tripped up some RUclipsrs), and you also have to do a DFU restore. Better than nothing I suppose, but not particularly consumer friendly.
I completely disagree with your premise, you state Apple are implementing any of those things you mentioned, do you know that for a fact, what proof do you have. SSD's have improved in general, Apple buying that company doesn't mean their SSD's are significantly better than others.
Not only that but you recommended getting extra cover, meaning even you're not completely convinced.
I certainly think that people should buy Mac's with enough RAM so that swapping is kept to a minimum.
Even with all of what I've said I'm very likely going to purchase my first ever Mac, a MacBook Pro, waiting for the M3 though. Although I'm likely going to replace every two years, and warranty through the supplier I'm going with is 4 years, so it won't be a risk for me.
Apple don’t explain their inner workings to anyone, so I base my assumptions on commercial logic and experience. They are just my opinions, so of course you don’t need to agree. I would say that as an owner of a digital agency employing about 40 staff, I buy a lot of computer equipment, not just from Apple, so I have a good idea about reliability. We haven’t had any SSD failures, even on the few old machines still kicking about. In fairness, I can’t think of any SSD failures on our servers or other non-Apple kit either. Assuming there are no manufacturing defects, SSDs are reliable.
The concern some have is associated with heavy swap behaviour (often from users who have under-specced RAM like you say). Does this additional use mean the drive will fail early? That’s the question I’m addressing. I’m not saying that Apple’s SSDs are automatically more reliable than others - the NAND cells are standard - I was commenting more on the specific technology which might be employed to ensure that those drives last a sensible amount of time, bearing in mind the swapping behaviour which is part of the design, and the cost of warranty work on soldered chips. The hundred or so engineers Apple gained from Anobit, plus any additional hiring since then, along with the proprietary controller design, would suggest that they’re doing something other than simply installing stock parts. If the SSD they produce is no different to a consumer M.2, what’s the point in all that expense?
Buying AppleCare+ has nothing to do with being unconvinced, and everything to do with insuring very expensive machines against unexpected failure and accidental damage. As a business, the cost of equipment failure and lost output quickly adds up to way more than the AppleCare+ premium. Being able to get quick no-questions-asked hardware replacements and service, without having to visit the store, is worth the expense, and probably even more so for a consumer who is spending top dollar on a premium machine. In my experience, warranty claims can be very hit and miss, so I’d rather have a separate insurance product.
It already has failed. And thankfully it was replaceable in my 2015 MacBook Air. It was dead after 6 years of use and 1-2 years just laying on the shelf. Some people will say "it was past its lifetime anyway".
I disagree. That's for the owner to decide, not anybody else. I'm squeezing out a few more years for simple tasks and am quite happy with that. If my $3500 M1 dies after 6 years like that … it'll be my last Apple laptop, that's for sure.
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Late 2022,Early 2023 Sandisk SSD has wide span failure. Team Group bin ssd has high defect rates
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Bottom line is that Apple wants to maximize profits by not letting customers upgrade by themselves. Apple should relocate their headquarters to a property that overlooks an electronics landfill.They have been pulling this crap for years.
I left the Apple exosphere years ago and have never looked back. My current computers run Linux and Windows, but I still have a 2011 Imac with Ventura running. (via the patcher), and I might crack it open and replace the spinning drive with an SSD. A PIA but doable using an OWC kit.
I think you missed a huge point there is another reason its a bad idea when ppbus sends 12v down rail and blows the ssd up then ya it don't matter how good the ssd are in MacBooks it will end up as e wast and this is a very common thing to happen and why a lot of ssd fail in macbooks and you can't just replace one you have to replace them in a pair cause they are running raid on them
I believe that issue is specific to Intel MacBooks.
@@ConstantGeekery no it’s not unfortunately
Do you have a source? I haven't heard of that on Apple Silicon machines, so it would be good to know the specific model numbers and some incidence statistics from a reliable source.
My own experience is that we've had well over 50 of the Apple Silicon Macs in our web studio so far with zero issues. Actually, I've also never had an SSD fail with any of our Intel Macs, and we've had a lot of those over the years. I have a friend who works in IT in a large organisation with thousands of these machines, and he's also told me that he doesn't personally know of any SSD failures.
Yes, the 12v thing is a known issue on certain Intel models, but I haven't personally seen any evidence to suggest that it is very common. Whenever anyone raises the argument, the only source they give me is a Louis Rossman video where he specifically looks at Intel models.
Have you considered the Framework laptops for your web design company? Maybe you could comment how big of a deal repairability and upgradeability is for business use?
I wouldn’t mind trying them, but our dev workflow is based on macOS. Not to say we couldn’t use Linux, but we’ve tried then all over the years, and on balance Apple still delivers lowest cost of ownership.
For us, upgradeability is not important for laptops, we typically renew on a 3-year basis (you can’t attract staff with ancient laptops) and sell them to recover 40-50% of new value. We only have two staff using desktops.
Repairability is nice, but we have to accept that’s not possible. We buy AppleCare insurance for the more expensive machines and write it all off as a cost of doing business. The consumer outlook would of course be completely different.
I got M1 Mac Mini in 2020 - My SSD is at 97% health already.
You mean 3% used in just over 3 years?
@@ConstantGeekery Yes, in 3 years.
@@headninjadog8120 you must be pretty pleased with that 😁
The funny thing is, I am not worried. I have a Mac Mini from 2019, a Macbook Air with the first M1 chip, a PC for gaming, Ipad Pro from last year and Iphone 14 Pro Max. Programs and apps go on the machines. But all my data and edits go on my Synology NAS DS1522+. And if I am video editing, I hardly use the SSD on the Macbook Air, but I use 2 Samsung External SSD's. So the stress on the SSD's on my PC and Macs is not that much. And I spect them out anyway. I also have a Imac from 2011 with a Timemachine airport. Both HDD's on those are still in working order and I use it for private small tasks, like mail and those things. As something fails on whichever machines, I have the backup. But I expect (especially the new machines) to stay in service for a long time.
Interesting video tough. Sorry if I made mistakes in my English. It is not my native language.
I've honestly _never_ used internal laptop storage for anything mission critical, it's always been external drives....because most work of note requires large amounts of storage, and often needs to be swapped or moved around. All my work is on a fast TB SSD, and all my backups are on large HDDs. Always will be. It lasts forever(ish) and can be plugged straight into a new laptop when upgrade time comes around.
And as for memory and cpu upgrades, does anyone _really_ do them anymore? A computer lasts you around 5-7 years, after which you want to upgrade (not because it's broken, but because it's getting underpowered). No amount of upgrades are going to make a difference.
maybe this is true for laptops but desktops can last well over 10 years. My 4th gen i7 intel desktop is doing great with the upgraded 32GB RAM and tons of storage. Only the end of Windows 10 will kill it, not hardware
The decision to solder and lock the CPU, the RAM and the SSD is very costly to the consumer. All these components get much cheaper over the lifetime of the device but you can't benefit at all. When you come to sell the device the complete lack of upgradability will cripple the selling price. At the start, the Apple tax is huge $200 to add a mere 8GB of RAM when 64GB of DDR5 RAM retails well under $200 today or $400 for 1TB SSD when a fully replaceable 1TB SSD costs $60 today and probably half that in 3 years time. Then, when the SSD fails, after the warranty expires you face a huge delay, massive inconvenience and more Apple tax to fix it. The components are proprietary and hugely over priced. So the Apple tax hits you when you buy, hits you when you find it impossible to upgrade, hits you if you need to repair it and hits you when you come to sell it - probably prematurely because you can't upgrade it. Rather than saying "Its all OK - the shareholders demand it" You should be demanding consumer friendly policies. I use Windows 10, Mint Linux 21.1 and MacOS Big Sur and Ventura. I am not impressed with the design of Mac OS. It's fails the quality of design and functionality test. There are good points the 5K retina display, iCloud. You may need Mac only software. If you don't then don't hand your hard earned money to perhaps the richest and greediest company on the planet. Support companies that look after their consumers not those who gouge them. BTW if you do disk intensive operations like compiling and linking large programs your SSDs will fail and they don't fail gracefully - you can lose access to the entire device. Far far better to replace them every two years or so.
Everyone has their preferences. I use all OSes regularly and I like them all for different reasons. I have sold a large number of Macs and my experience is that they hold their value, precisely because of the Apple tax. Apple’s control over the pricing and spec keeps used prices high. In fact, we have found that when you look at the total cost of ownership for our business (cycling equipment every 3 - 4 years), Apple machines have consistently had a lower TCO than the equivalent PCs we’ve had. YMMV
There is a lot of anti-Apple negativity out there and most of it is Windows users hating on Apple for some reason or another. If you don't like what Apple does, buy something else!
For prosumers, the life of the machines is far shorter than consumers and they will upgrade far more regularly for the best performance gains. So a failing SSD which is probably less likely in a large NAND drive in a Mac than most Windows machines is built into the running cost of a progressive business.
We need more frequent videos, love your presenting style
I stopped worrying about the life of the SSD long ago, I have a base model 2020 M1 but also a 2017 MBP and they are both running fine, 2017 is running its stock drive from 6 years ago
Yes.....in the course of Deep Time, Entropy will exert its unbelievably slow but relentless effect on all of the matter and energy in the Universe and then your SSD will most certainly fail.....but until then.... I'll take my chances
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I had a Mac Mini with soldered-on SSD. The motherboard died just about a month after it was out of warranty (probably because the office that it was in became too hot). The motherboard died - not the SSD.
For the hot day, I have a fan that I have on my desk aimed at my laptop and I also use a cooler stand. I always recommend to people make a little more effort in extreme circumstances.
@@andyH_England - Indeed, that's what I did when setting up the mac mini that replaced this one! 🙂
How do you know motherboard is died not SSD?
@@hasyidanparamananda - Two things: *(1)* I went to the local Apple Store, and they ran diagnostics on it. The diagnostics said it was either or the motherboard. They hoped it would be because they felt bad that it died so short after the warranty expired, but they replaced the and nothing improved. And *(2)* When they said that they couldn't give me any discount on replacing the motherboard, I decided to take the memory from the broken Mac Mini and switch it with a different Mac Mini (the Mac that died had more memory than the other one). After I did that, both of the Mac Mini's booted up just fine. My reaction was"Yay!". If I had been smarter the first thing I would have done is copied the most important data off the disk. But instead of being smart I started using the Mac as normal, and after about eight hours it died again with the same error that it had died with before. At that point it was back refusing to even begin to boot up.
I tried many more things both before and after replacing the memory, which I'm not going to write up here. I *suspect* that it's possible that the process of replacing memory resets some error indicator somewhere, and that if I replaced it again then I'd get another window of opportunity. But it takes about an hour of very intricate work to replace the memory in this model of Mac Mini, and what if I did all that and then it *didn't* boot up?
... although now that you've reminded me about that, maybe I should try it. On the other hand it died more than a year ago, and by now I've recreated pretty much all the data that had existed on only that SSD.
Informed choice: don't buy apple!
Absolutely…because PCs never fail, overheat, or succumb to malware.
very well presented,,,coherent and logical. Thank you.
Imagine your car tires are permanently attached to your car and when it wears out you need to replace the whole car 🥲
But the tyres are good for 500,000 miles... provided you don't get a puncture. It's a frustrating mess!
I stopped buying macs and until apple goes back to making upgadable fixable machines I will now continue to buy gaming PCs. I can now play all my games even 32 bit games, even with windows 11.
First this is why you purchase larger both memory, and SSD storage..... Fight the swap.
Then when it comes to transporting a laptop, and it being bounced around all the time. Components being soldered to the circuitboard is a much better solution as they are not likely to come loose.
Next this is why when I moved from Apple iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2014) with 2TB SSD storage no Apple Care to a MacBook Air M1 chip with 8‑core CPU, 7‑core GPU, 16‑core Neural Engine, 16GB unified memory, 2TB SSD with Apple Care.
Yes Time Machine is a very KISS solution.
Except in Windows you can at least disable swap, since all OSes by default swap like crazy, to keep most RAM available "just in case" instead of using it to the fullest.... perhaps with just small, singile digit percent overhead.
You can disable swap in macOS too. I don’t recommend it, but it’s possible.
all SSDs will eventually fail its a fact its not because apple or what ever brand the fact is eventually ALL ssds will died
They will… but for the vast majority, the rest of the machine would be dead long before that happens.
We all die, every person that has ever lived will die. What is your point?
they are going to fail. Louis Rossmann showed it multiple times. It's still NAND and apple's design failures will have them fail.
Louis has shown faulty power chips. This video is about failure from excessive wear. Not the same thing… and the majority of those power issues are Intel Macs.
A final note from me. CPU and GPU are soldered on the motherboard and few people complain about this. Why? Because generally, they will last the life of the laptop. Storage in the past was modular due to the failure rate of spinning disks, but we are in 2023 and if we invented laptops now, then it is almost certain that like CPUs and GPUs, SSDs would be deemed as capable of lasting as long and also would be soldered. It is the mindset that needs to change.
Major fact with soldering SSD to the board is to lessen manufacturing cost, less hardware to support from 3rd-parties, and less testing for 3rd-party QVL. All benefits Apple in terms of cost and still the devices are up in price, and repairs are costly when one NAND fails, all data will be done-for even if you have 3 healthy SSD NAND left. It's very stupid that it's the mindset of the customer is the one's that needs changing especially when there's 0 benefit for the consumer in the long run.
@@3dr14ng4 Most sensible people have at least one backup of their data and if you don't you really have only yourself to blame if something goes wrong!
Bringing up pSLC doesn't support your argument, quite the contrary actually. pSLC is used on MLC and TLC only if there is enough unassigned cells for the SSD controller to half or third the capacity of the drive, otherwise the cells will be used normally. So Apple selling expensive laptops with 256GB storage makes it more likely that you will use a higher percentage of the flash on average preventing the SSD controller from using pSLC. And no the overprovisioning is not making up for that shortcomming. If Apple would overprovision a high percentage of cells, they could achieve longer lifetime and reliability spending the money on directly using MLC instead of TLC or SLC instead of MLC. And yes, you can very well compare your MAC soldered NAND to normal NAND on normal m.2 SSDs. The placement of the controller doesn't change that in the slightest. It's also wierd that you praise Apples NAND to be so reliable for all the listed reasons in the video, while failing to mention that those technologies are industry standards and used by every major SSD vendor, like Samsung, Micron or Sk Hynix, (ofc. excluding the offbrand 30$ 1TB drive you can buy on Amazon). So no, Apple doesn't have a gamechanging competetive edge in Flash reliability.
I used pSLC it as one example of a type of cell emulation technology. Whether or not Apple uses it, or some other technique that is not publicised or documented, only Apple knows. I'm not trying to make any argument other than: Apple is in the business of making money, and fabricating SSDs that are bound to fail early is not going to support that goal. Pretty logical.
The controller placement is not some magic bullet. I didn't suggest that - what I actually said is that Apple integrates its own controller within the "M" SoC, which design choice does then preclude the use of standard M.2 drives which have a controller onboard.
I spoke about Anobit and MSP in this video since that is one example of a controller demonstrably and massively increasing lifespan of consumer grade NAND flash. They used standard NAND flash components, just as Apple does still. Apple bought Anobit over a decade ago, and of course, Apple being Apple, they haven't publicised any of their advancements in that interim period. I'd say it's pretty reasonable to think that the 100+ SSD engineers Apple acquired haven't been thumb-twiddling all those years.
I did not praise Apple in this video. I'm not a fanboy, in fact I don't much like their corporate behaviour at all, hence the criticism in this very video of their design choices.
I personally use both PCs and Macs, and I maintain large numbers of Linux servers. I'm a business owner who has to buy a fair amount of equipment and so I'm required to think logically and base my purchasing decisions on a much broader range of factors than whether I like a brand or not. Love or hate Apple, it remains the case that none of our 40+ Apple Silicon machines, which are being used in a heavy work environment, have had any SSD failures. That's also true of the PCs.
The fact that Apple soldered its memory was never a problem for me because I simply assumed that the technicians knew what they were doing. A company like Apple can't afford to constantly replace broken memory.
Besides, they know that we Schmoks are always buying the latest devices. 😂
strictly talking about why they chose to solder that part and not let it on a slot, i understand their decision, one less point of failure or a reason to get a possible warranty
the ssd or other technologies used on smartphones do wear out, like after 5 years people start saying that the phone is slow, and that is the ssd having problems and just dying
i guess that a user like you will be one of the first to see it die and report how it happened
about my comment on 25 vs 50 hz, 50 hz does not give me problems on my tv, because i watch other youtubers on uk and at 50hz all is smooth like on 60hz, but on a side note, 30hz on some channels also works sort of weird sometimes, don't know why
Yeah! And btw, most of are selling the devices after 3 to 4 years.
I think this guy miss the point, I don't expect the SSD to fail.How do you get the data when the computer fail. Last year my neighbors spilled juice on her M1 Mac. She took it to my house and ack me to copy the data from her hard drive. When I explain how her computer was made. She cried
The point of the video was more to do with drive failure as a result of excessive wear, but fair point on accidental damage - every failure is a big deal on machines like this. Of course, liquid damage on a computer without soldered storage is still going to be a disaster. No doubt she has learned the importance of backups!!
@@ConstantGeekery i have SSDs tha are over 8 years old that i use to play around with different linux distros and all kind of other garbage i do. SSD failing is not the biggest issue. data recovery is. I got my first mac in 1998 (PowerBook G3) and i love apple computers. i still have a working 2012 MBP. LOVE IT. the reason why i can have a 13 years mac that work is due to apples good engineering adn the use of standards. that computers as had a 128gig SSD from 2014.
when your computer fails, you should noot have to spend rediculus amount of money to get your data. and not everyone live in a first world country with a Apple store. I live in Jamaica, no apple store on the island, the young lady had to pay $800 USD to just get her data.
A computer with a soldered SSD is inherently flawed. i have been using computers from 1992, you can not always make a backup everytime you are working.
@@nicholaswjamrock Everything I do is backed up on the fly, that is, I live in the cloud. The advantage is a secure backup and my data is accessible to every device from my phone to my tablet. I have been doing this for as long as I can remember. If you cannot afford to lose data then back it up. Also, if you fried the T2 chip which holds the encryption keys I am not even sure you can recover data from the SSD even if it was not soldered on.
@@andyH_England i guess you dont go outside, i work out doors and i require a computer. you cant always pack up to the cloud when you are miles from the nearest wifi, or you cant use the data on the phone to move 2 gig of files. you back up at time become the reliability of your device and the ability to recover your data if said device fails. Apple has removed that option, I know the tech they use to manage the SSD is Rock solid, but i have seen where its not the bestthink for the consumer.
why is the T2 Chip even need to encript the drive, why? every OS i have used from 2000 has hard drive encription, and that did not require a chip, these things used standards, look at ATAlock and files system based encription. the consumer could recover their data as long as the drive was working, now you cant, its not allowed.
you may believe i am hating on apple, i currently own an M1 mac, but that dont change the fact apple is screwing over its customers. A lot of thing apple does today goes against the way the company operated in the late 90s early 2000s.
@@nicholaswjamrock Without the T2, Apple computers were incredibly insecure. This is a serious improvement.
It is done by NAND-Chips not by DRAM-Chips so it degrades whatever voodoo apple-marketing is telling, this is like it is. The Major problem is vital data on other systems are stored in dedicated chips is stored in the NAND-Chips, what happens if theese cells fail? Another issue i see its way slower than actual pc-devices (Gen4 or Gen5 NVME devices) on the same time its way more expensive than the pc devices (factor 4 to10 compared to Gen3 NVME devices which are perhaps the ones comparable in speed).
The problem is the lack of information in case of SSD how much provision , what type of cells QLKC,TLC, SLC, PSLC are used, single channel or dual channel configuration.
Yes for 90% of the typical apple customer this doesn't matter even it does not matter if 8 or 16 GB of RAM, for a bit of netflix, youtube, tinder the base model is always allready overkill. But for people thinking of implications due to swapping it is really a problem, especially at the price policy regarding storage and RAM apple has.
And yes on the other hand people really working with macs (are there any fields beside video editing and photo editing to work with this machines?) the people buy a specced machine according their needs even if it cosst 7000$. For the consumer its a bad idea.
apple unified memory has advantages and its stupid fast to even in 8gb ram you will not find the lags ,and intially Apple silicon has swaping issues and its a software bug now its fixed ,
5:17 Justifying SSD's low-failure rate as being the best when compared to a Hard Drive should be out of the topic. The main issue is "Soldered SSD vs Removable SSD", the comparison should be the benefits of the consumer with the soldered SSD vs being able to use a removable NVME SSD (Samsung NVME for example). Do consumers benefit from non-user-replaceable SSD? They don't. The only beneficiary of soldered SSD is Apple and their ridiculously overpriced SSD capacity tiers.
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Just one note - This is only if you intend to read and write a lot of data - if you are non RUclipsr - Just buy the laptop you love weather Mac or PC. It's a tool design to get your work done.
Does Disney want to make profit?
Yes it will, doesn't need to watch all videos. Every electronic will fail, and storage usually the fastest one from usage. HDD > SSD > Flashdisk > MicroSD, HDD strongest one by usage.
I read a while back that Apple designs their own NAND chips and controllers and specifies enterprise-grade reliability and longevity for its Apple Silicon machines. I would suspect Apple has tested tolerances and that they are set high so that even power users will struggle to kill the storage. I would say in 2023 that RAM is almost unbreakable and that storage is now beyond the point where OEMs worry about failure during normal life cycles. No doubt there will be a dodgy one here or there, but that is what warranties are for, and in the UK, they are deemed to last at least 6 years so breakage before that will mean free replacement if no fault by the consumer.
That is why soldered RAM and storage never bother me. I just make sure I buy what I need though I use the cloud and external drives so 256GB is more than enough for me. I suspect most people complain about soldered RAM and storage is that they cannot buy the base and then upgrade on the cheap. I highly doubt you could do that with Apple's NAND or RAM due to its proprietary designs.
Apple uses NAND chips supplied from various manufacturers (Toshiba, SanDisk & Samsung, to name the most recent used among their entire product line), but the SSD controller is entirely in-house designed and built, first within their T2 chips (an A10 Fusion variant) and now integrated with the A.S. SoC.
@lupitheyorkie as far as I am aware, they're not standard off the shelf as no other OEM uses NAND chips in mobile phones. They use UFS. So I suspect Apple has various suppliers that build to Apple's specifications and they use their own controllers to communicate with the rest of the system on chip.
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Are you? It’s better not to be. I enjoyed editing this video on my Threadripper Pro workstation. I’m busy browsing the web on my Samsung Galaxy Tab S9 Ultra, whilst replying to you on iPhone. It’s great to enjoy technology from all the brands. Give it a try 👍🏻
Got rid from my Macbook for this reason, pathetic decision by a greedy company!