I Feel Pretty Bad About This Review. [New Company: H13 Discs]
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- Опубликовано: 8 окт 2024
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I'm very interested in your opinion here! 1. What do you think of the discs? and 2. How do you think I could have handled things differently or better if at all?
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I think there's a balance between being a risk for brands (in giving negative reviews), and giving veiwer's an honest opinion. Maybe if you don't like EVERY disc, just don't post the video, and give the company some constructive feedback. If you like some of the discs then it's kind of the best of both worlds: where brands can save face, and viewers feel like they're getting an honest review.
I’ve also been messaging with the company and have some early prototypes from what I understand. I look forward to testing the retooled and softer discs as they come to market more!
@@BodanzaDiscGolf Why would they send you early prototypes to review? Sounds like a cop out response....
You have to be honest in your reviews. Hopefully they can make some adjustments based off your feedback.
If you never give a bad review, why would we trust the good ones? I think you did fine here. You gave stuff a fair shake, shared your honest opinion, tried to nail down root issues (hard plastic and rim oddities), and even tried to convert your negative opinions into constructive feedback. Thanks for the video!
Yeah, I think disc reviews are best left to casual rounds. Seems, imho, the agitation was higher than it would have been in a casual round. As always, I like hearing what you have to say.
I disagree, hes trying to throw them to there fullest potential because hes trying to win. actually makes for a better review in my opinion.
@@bugz1176 Respect 👊
@@bugz1176 who recommends throwing discs you don't know in a competitive format?
I appreciate your honesty on this review. Some just need to understand that because these discs aren’t for you doesn’t make them bad discs. Just like there are discs you love and some dislike. I understand it’s tough on you to give a company a “bad” review, but keep putting out the great content.
Me doing everything in my power not to immediately go to hole 9 😂
You were nicer than reviewers in most other YT sectors. Gamers Nexus is one of the most trusted review YT for a reason. They legit cannot be bought and call EVERYBODY out if they put out crap.
I'm honestly very surprised we don't see MORE bad reviews in the DG space. Seems like nobody wants to ruffle any feathers. I get why, but we kind of NEED you to call it how you see it. If you can't afford to, I'm not sure anyone can.
Just keep it real!
Appreciate the honest review
I’m a fan of the wanderlust (12 speed) and embark (3 speed) but I agree the plastic is a bit stiff and slick. I’m not a fan of the adventurer, or the companion because I can’t seem to get my release right. I’d love to see the embark in premium plastic. I think the manufacturer would love to hear your thoughts, it was probably a bit soon for a young company to be asking for reviews (IMO) but part of being young is trial and error. I believe H13 has a bright future, especially after feeling/throwing their newest plastics
Did you ever get another green rim shattered van envy? I just might have one if you need it still.
805 tags holders is insane!!
How are there atleast 805 tags but only 9 show up for tag league?!
@@ghettorain22 it’s the whole denver area. I think there are over 900 mile high DGC tags out so far this year
The biggest tag league in my area is 75 players.
Down from 90 in 2022.
Side note: lowkey into the Picture in Picture bodanza talking to us about your thoughts/what’s going on. Might be something cool there
Im probably in the silent minority that doesn't really want the sport to grow too much. This honest review is super helpful. Keep being honest! I dunno about H13 but not all companies are jumping into disc golf for the right reasons *coughlonestarcough*. We already have so many great, time-tested, dedicated manufacturers that all make discs for every shot shape physics will allow within the PDGA disc regulations. There's a genuine difference between passionate innovation like TrashPanda, and random offbrands hiring established manufacturers to get a little piece of the pie. I dont know anything about H13, maybe great people, its just my 2 cents.
Just trying to understand how H13 translates to "high".
words like tie and lie give the "igh" sound to an "ie" so its a play on that, the 13 makes it more ambiguous
@@jamesfarabaugh6669 I think like hie like the letters make I and E but keep the “hole 13” brand nostalgia
H13, like die! isn't english amazing?
Honest reviews are always good, you probably kept somebody from ordering that fairway that’s beef who would be expecting a -1,1 flight I don’t think your frustrated play is much of a deterrent against the company either. It’s Just your specific experience on that day. I’ve thrown discs and hated them the first time then went out a couple months later and they’ve been instant baggers after that.
The "Made in USA" prodigy F7s have a double rim as well.
I liked that you test yourself and we respect your opinions. Good cinema
Left handed round?
Can you do a discology of v3 vs atlas pioneer v4 bag review
Those nice pink putters ;) stiff or soft?
stiff blend marvels
@@BodanzaDiscGolf thanks good sir! To infinite I go
Awesome video!
Giving bad reviews mean you’re honest. There’s no way every review has to be positive. Anyways, these molds are probably Gateway rejects that they’re leasing out to this third-party.
I love them. I am sponsored by them but the driver is the best driver I have thrown in a long time. The companion is such a terrific disc that fills a spot and flight I can’t get with anything else. I’m not a fan of the adventurer for the same reasons as u and the putter is dead straight and glidey so terrific for C2 bids.
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You shouldn't feel bad giving your honest review of the discs. Without feeling the discs, it's difficult to give my opinion. But I have played with different gateway discs over the years and some of their plastics are terrible. What I would call cheap or toy plastic. In 2021, I played in a trilogy challenge and the putter was the Emac judge. This was a mold I liked and putted well with their "classic" plastic. Unfortunately, trilogy cheaped out on the event and used a cheap or toy plastic for this putter and it was really hard and difficult to putt and throw with. With so many disc manufacturers and a lot of similar molds these days, I usually go by plastic feel when purchasing a disc.
According to my armchair analysis the discs have
1) a low shoulder with dome to increase glide and turn
2) "oddities" under the rim to increase stability
Basically they're normal discs with extra steps. I'm sure they performed great in a physics simulation, but in reality there are too many variables.
It seems like you had an idea of what you thought they should be, and just couldnt convince yourself to trust the flights you observed. With flight numbers and disc shapes, sometimes it can be tough to get our assumptions out of our head.
I'm sorry but I don't think you can blame the discs mate 🤣
The Companion is good. It's a niche slot but it fills it well. I wish that it were a bit more torque resistant.
Gateway's 7 speeds are all really similar and I haven't gotten along with any of them. Tried them all across all of their sister companies and decided to bag several Chameleons instead.
Wanderlust should be a good disc. I think the stiffness is from their nylon blend. NXT to me tends to have the perfect amount of rim stiffness but also good give in the flight plate. Nylon, though, is hard AF and not for everyone.
Gateway is an appealing manufacturing partner because Dave can just combine tops and bottoms of existing molds and make new discs. Low cost of entry. Some of those experiments turn out phenomenal, others not so much. I still think Gateway plastic is on par with the industry standards and their molds, while unconventional most of the time, are pretty darn good, and only getting better.
Based on the look of the discs, ew. Ugly colors, no designs or stamps, awkward looking shapes with the shoulders and bulkiness of them. Also, what a weird name for a disc company. Hole 13 or H13 makes sense. Hi3 sounds weird especially when the e is a 3. I wouldn't buy them based on the colors alone. I feel as if a bunch of stoners decided to make discs and chose the weird pastel colors to be different. The shapes of the discs are just super weird!
Dude! Please stop calling it a "nose bead"!
It's called a lip.
Were you even born yet when the Millennium Polaris came out in 1997 and was the first driver ever without a lip?
Seems like dg language has moved onto calling it a nose bead. That's the only way I've heard this style of rim referred to before. For instance, on Innova's site it says the Racer has a "beaded rim"
Probably both right, just dependent on when you started playing
You need to be honest in your review or your going to lose our trust in your reviews.
The H13 owner must be losing his mind right now knowing Bodanza gets 10’s of thousands of views from potential customers wanting to see reviews before buying. Just the thought that you sent him the discs for free and got your throat cut for it must be mind numbing…
Looks like I won’t be picking up anything from this brand 😂
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I like the honesty. But if I’m being honest, this video has little value to the viewer and the company (from a product perspective, very entertaining video). You just threw those guys under the bus man, no shot I’m ever buying those discs, no shot they’re selling too many of those clunkers. I just think if you want to grow the sport (idk if you care about that) you should review discs that are good lol and which will create interest and will cause some viewers to make a purchase and put their hard earned cash into this market
@@landonwebb886 I hear that, but if a company reaches out and I agree to a review, I think it’d be bad as a reviewer to give them creative license over the review so no company ever sees my thoughts before I post. But then I’m not just going to not review it because I don’t like something. I think there’s value in not spending money as well as there is spending money because if people get into the sport but don’t like the equipment they could leave quicker. I’d rather be honest and fulfill my word to a company than not post on it, but I can hear where you’re coming from
Hard disagree. Softer plastic is a relatively inexpensive option that would help the company. They also got some input for their next molds to work in the right direction. I’m not going to buy any of these for sure but I’m not writing the company off and kinda rooting for them now