Dylan Mulvaney Finds God?, Honest Thoughts On Our Bethany Video | P&M After Dark (Ep 17)
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- ‘Dylan Mulvaney Finds God?, Honest Thoughts On Our 24HRS WITH Bethany Beal (GirlDefined) Video | P&M After Dark (Ep 17)’
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0:26 Getting honest about why we started the stream late (TMI)
2:21 Dylan Mulvaney finds God?
2:52 Paul's changing his approach to how he talks about LGB.TQ issues?
22:48 Paul isn't happy with his Spindrift sparkling water
25:46 Our honest thoughts on Bethany Beal 24HRS WITH video
29:25 Morgan responds to 'judgemental' accusations
34:03 Audience loved Dav, disliked Paul? "Dav over Paul" comment
36:50 The Fundie Friday video
52:20 Paul gets honest about a predicament he has with 24HRS WITH
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Hey Fam! Comment below and let us know your thoughts on the faith journey Dylan shared in the video we played! Also, after sharing some of the responses we got from episode 2 of 24HRS WITH, do you agree with what people said about Morgan? What about Paul? Let us know!
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I think you had a good idea when you said the videos should come with a warning. You could put a warning label along with a picture of the guest. Maybe with a warning symbol and something like "WARNING: Your Christian beliefs may be changed by watching this video" or "WARNING: Your Christian beliefs may be challenged by watching this video". Or you could change each label to the topic of the week so for Isaiah "WARNING: Your beliefs on demons/Yoga may be changed by watching this video" or with Bethany "WARNING: Your beliefs about sex/swearing may be changed by watching this video". That way the focus is on discussing conflicting beliefs and not the brother or sister in Christ (which is the point of the series) :)
It also seems dishonest to act like “gay people can have a relationship with god they just need to suppress being gay” like that’s easy or as easy as not drinking alcohol or killing someone or a different sin. Would it be easy to not be straight for you whole life? And more important than easy, would it lead you to a happy life?
Except in the eyes of God it is the same. It’s a sin that people wrestle with. We are called to suffer for Christ and fight the battle of sin. It doesn’t mean we pick what makes us “happy” because ultimately God and his will for us is what brings ultimate joy. We are called to suffer as Jesus did and are never promised an easy life being a Christian.
@@ryliethompson2915 that’s sounds intellectually dishonest. You wrestle with not wanting to murder someone everyday? Also being born with same sex attraction is very different than making a choice to sin. Christian’s tend to use the same euphemisms over and over again but they don’t actually mean anything. “It’s a sin people wrestle with” isn’t true. Sexuality is a beautiful aspect of all humans. the church makes it seem like a bad thing someone needs to wrestle. Without the church’s damaging messaging people are able to feel that “ultimate joy” and be gay.
@@katherinewindstrup4243 People struggle with lust, which is adultery in the eyes of the Lord, can you stop lusting? Perhaps not, but you can resist it. Hate is murder to the Lord, but people still hate others.
I think you guys should do a 24 hours with episode with a “progressive Christian” like B Haney. If you truly want this project to be all views of Christians and prove that people can have different views and still get along and be friends then you need to do ALL sides of Christianity even if it makes you uncomfortable. Just my two cents :)
Like Dav said, don’t look at people as “the others”, befriend them!
We may have just what you’re looking for in an upcoming episode :)
I wouldn’t even call B Haney a Christian or even a “progressive Christian”. She believes in the unalivement of babies. Soooo.
Haney isn’t a Christian or even a progressive Christian as I don’t see how you can call yourself a follower of Jesus and also support the deletion of children.
Haney isn’t a Christian or even a progressive Christian as I don’t see how you can call yourself a follower of Jesus and also support
As a deconstructing Christian, I would like to loudly and confidently say that I would spend 24-hours with P+M before I would spend 24-minutes with ABS. I don't know if there is a worse example of a kind and warm person. She is rude, she is cruel, she others anyone who doesn't conform to her views (religious and political), and she speaks down to people in the worst, most prideful ways. The cruel way you both misgendered Dylan over and over again was really disgusting and heartbreaking to watch, but that is Allie 100% of the time.
I liked the 24 hours with Bethany video! I really wish the dialogue conversations we saw were a little longer though. Like when Paul was talking to Dave about cussing, it seemed like we didn’t really get the full picture of what Dave thought about it. I would have liked to hear more of the back and forth between Paul and Dave to understand both sides. Kinda like the conversation clip at the end of the video where we got to see a lengthier clip of all 4 of you guys talking. I feel like the longer clips help us to actually understand the other side rather than just getting short clips and then not really knowing what they actually think about it.
There’s a little longer clip for the Patrons but not much longer & it didn’t completely clear anything up for me just maybe showed Dav was joking but also purposely trying to be a little shocking?
Paul has shown SO much growth in this video. So much more thoughtful and respectful than usual.
10 minutes in and I’m already annoyed. I’m going to keep watching, but I would’ve thought Paul would be the one to disrespect Dylan and call her a “he”, but he’s actually making an effort to call her by her name without sacrificing what he believes about another person’s existence, so props to him on some degree. Morgan however straight up said “Nope. I’m not going to respect Dylan’s wishes. I will say ‘he’ even tho Dylan has expressed multiple times how much it hurts her’. Regardless of what you believe about the trans community that’s just disrespectful and as a Catholic myself, I am extremely disappointed. Shame on you.
I think it’s important to know that for a lot of people, finding Jesus is a journey. It won't be linear sometimes. You just pray.
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I personally wouldn't want a marriage that has as many differences as theirs does, but I think seeing their marriage portrayed and how they work through their differences to love one another is also really important. I now have more sympathy if Bethany posts something where I think she's reacting too strongly to her old views now I see the journey she's on and what she's working through with the differences in her marriage tying to understand where Dav is coming from which can understandably mean she may say things very differently than she used to. To be honest, I wasn't a big fan of that Thanksgiving reel but getting a little glimpse of her story I feel I understand her more. Hopefully people realise this is the purpose of 24 hours, it's not always about agreeing with everyone, but sometimes seeing where they come from before you judge!
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as an atheist viewer who watches your videos out of pure curiosity, i think suggesting to put devil horns on the guest sounds a bit weird. why visually 'demonise' a person who is opening up to you about their faith, and being vulnerable on your channel? just to increase the view count? i personally REALLY like the current aesthetic of the 24hours with series, it looks pretty neat and conveys the idea of an open and honest conversation, which is your brand. i believe the quality of the conversation will be more important than the quality of the thumbnail! i LOVED the video with bethy and dav
It seems dishonest to write off being gay or trans as a “lifestyle” is being straight a lifestyle?
Exactly.
I think it's because some people act like their sexuality is their whole personality
@@GMan7418 I suppose it's pretty hard not to. I bet you do too - or do you find people having to confirm with you a lot?
I think it's because gay and trans sexualities are not approved of by God so not something to live in
yes it is
Morgan using he/him for dylan felt rly forced and made it hard to focus on what she was saying
While I do enjoy listening to your videos there are times when your tones come off a bit harsh and judgemental. Condemnation and accountability should come through relationship. While I hold a lot of your values and beliefs, I chose not to subscribe because I do not agree with HOW the message comes out, which truly is important if we want to reach people respectfully. Just a tiny example from this video, Morgan stated that she “would give Dylan grace”. I don't believe that Morgan has the authority to give Dylan grace especially if Dylan has not actively harmed her. It was just unnecessary. I say this with love and respect.
Seeing Paul become more thoughtful after the 24hrs with is wonderful. Critical thinking is a positive thing.
I dont think its right to judge anyone for their sin but rather be an example to them of how Jesus would love them
If you really love someone, you are willing to tell said person that he/she is about to get hit by a truck and not just "love" them and let them live their way.
I think Dylan is a girl because she said 'girlies' and she's very pretty :) I think you accidentally said 'he' ❤️
Nobody who has xy chromosomes can be female.
I really enjoyed your 24 Hours thing with Dave&Bethany Beal, because I found that the Beals were dynamic and interesting. Paul and Morgan, I sincerely hope that you could both learn a thing or two from them.
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I appreciate Paul committing to using Dylan’s name instead of either binary pronoun bc it directs more focus onto what he is saying instead of just being inflammatory with using he/him just to be edgy.
I said the same thing! Morgan said “haha I’m not” and continued to use ‘he’. That was disappointing and immature of her in my opinion, not to mention really disrespectful.
Same as it is more respectful than Morgan’s misgendering
Paul & Morgan and Bethany & Dav seem to both have normal, imperfect, healthy Christian marriages to me.They put themselves in the public eye for the sake of the gospel. Lots of opinions from strangers and I have a lot respect for them dealing with the toll all that can take.
Thank you❤️
A genuine question: If a man is going to identity as transgender and present themselves as female either way, would you rather A) they be an atheist who discourages people from the faith, or a person that has a relationship with god and encourages others to do the same?
While I do appreciate trying to have some open mindedness on the topic and I understand you chose to live your lives as closely aligned with scripture as possible. But what I don’t understand is discouraging or criticizing how someone choses to have a relationship with god.
I think part of the problem is that we don’t decide if we’re good with God or not, God does. And His Word is how we know what He says about a right relationship with Him. So, if someone thinks they’re good with God but aren’t, we don’t want the blind leading the blind because it could just lead more people to think that they’re good with God when God says they aren’t. You have to repent and believe to be saved. No one is sinless, even if they’re saved. But we do try to sin less, and ask God to change us. Dylan doesn’t seem to think some major things need to change. That doesn’t mean he isn’t being acted on by God. It is highly possible God is moving in his life and eventually he will repent and be saved, but as of now, the fruit is that Dylan is still lord of Dylan’s life.
I hope that makes sense. It has less to do with Dylan identifying as a girl, and more to do with him living in open and unrepentant sin in general. It is like if a pastor was committing adultery, unrepentant. He shouldn’t be leading the flock.
@@kaitlinrose6352 Appreciate this-It’s an excellent explanation 💗👍🙏
@@kaitlinrose6352would that pastor still be allowed to worship god? Still be able to identify as a Christian?
@BOOMshakalaka481 if the pastor is unrepentant adulterous then the command is to "treat him as an unbeliever" meaning yes he is welcome to come into church and sit in the pew, we have to still treat him with kindness but call him to repentance. Also he wouldn't be allowed to be in any leadership roles, or take communion.
And I want to say yes I know there are many pastors who are horrible adulterers are nothing happens to them and this is deeply wrong, disgusting and perverse. In fact Scripture says they receive a double judgment
Sorry but Allie Stuckey was not a good example of a "sweet" Christian, not saying she's the worst of them but she does not present herself as a very loving person.
I disagree - I find Allie Beth very sweet & warm even though she does not shy away from truth
@@kristinmac4559Well whether she’s saying truth is another matter. She’s just preaching her religion. But in terms of how she spouts her beliefs, she not the most affable individual, she also could learn something from Dav. She also just seems a bit fake to me, like Cadence Owens.
@@ohuntermc9321 I do find Candace Owens a bit brash at times but still disagree with you about Allie 💗
@@kristinmac4559 Again she’s not the worst (that’s a very long list) but was odd that was the best example they had.
Have you read about prophets like Eliah, Nathan, John the Baptists... to name a few??? Their words and actions don't sound as nice and warm to me when it comes to addressing sinful stuff.
Paul is completely right, people like the people that dont stand on the word. Not because they are not nice or whatever. Dav is appealing became he isnt a Christian, he isnt standing on God's word. Seems like a great guy but isnt pushing back on ideology that is false.
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Wait am i wrong for feeling like respecting Dylan’s journey with god isnt woke?
Praying for Dylan. When we seek relationship with God we can find Him through His words to all people in the Holy Bible. He loves every single one of His creations and wants us to respect Him and His teachings so He made them available to all. God Bless 💗🙏
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When Paul was talking about the thumbnail not being spicy enough it got me thinking that maybe they're getting "shadow banned"?
For example, i was on instagram trying to find the Girl Defined podcast P&M were guests on and I couldn't find it. Then i noticed the lack of likes and comments on certain posts, compared to others that had hundreds of interactions. It doesn't make sense and something is definitely OFF.
Love you guys. Good marriage, good husband, good wife, unshakable faith. Praise God for both of you xx
PS I've had family and friends avoid me for speaking Gods Truth to them, ie that they need to be saved x
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The thing that surprised me about your interview with Bethany was that she actually talks slower in person. I listen to their podcast and I really have to focus because they talk so fast.😂
Weird to tell your audience they "better" watch your videos. I guess Paul is used to being the "authority" and telling Morgan what to do
Great video. Truth spoken here! I love how you brought the gospel into your Dylan response. Also love the bible verses!
I think that before people are saved they can have a perspective of not having a problem with sin (lust: gives me pleasure, theft: why wouldn't God want me to have this nice thing, murder: everyone would be happier if this person was gone, etc.). But when we become saved, and usually starts before we're saved when we get convicted by out conscience to bring us to our knees before the cross, we see sin how God sees it with a new heart with new desires. It can be as simple as not seeing the seriousness of sin and how offensive it is to God (not to mention bad for us in the long run).
"Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
Do not err, my beloved brethren." James 1:13-6
I also think that if people would transpose another kind of sin, like "adultery", into their phrasing, they would see how ridiculous it sounds. Like say, there was an Adulterous community that lived that constant lifestyle, praised that lifestyle, and said God loves them that way. That would be ridiculous.
"Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them." Romans 1:32
Really appreciated you choosing to just use Dylan's name as an alternative Paul!
Thumbnail suggestion:
Honest sensationalism-
• For the thumbnail, incorporate a photo of the guests’ face that capture them in a heightened or raw emotion instead of using a formal photo of them, because the formal photograph in the thumbnail doesn’t necessarily communicate ‘raw and unfiltered’
• Perhaps, try using a photo of them looking uncomfortable, timid, aloof in the episode. I think these kinds of photos in the thumbnail help better illustrate the meaty nature of video. Or just be more intuitive when choosing a photo of them
• You can try adding mini captions like WE WEREN’T EXPECTING THIS or HE CHANGED MY MIND in the thumbnail to add some reasonable shock value
• and my last suggestion, for the thumbnail is to add “24hrs ep #” so that people who aren’t subscribed know that 24hrs is a series
Descriptive title-
• this can also help better illustrate what the meat of the video is
• For example, instead of just a plain “24 hrs with Isaiah Saldivar” , first try describing an element of the video that stood out the most or an unknown fact about them (that ideally corresponds with the thumbnail) and then 24 with…
• Here are a few templates to brainstorm off of:
𝗪𝗲 𝗱𝗲𝗯𝗮𝘁𝗲 𝗮𝘁 𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗽𝗼𝘁𝗹𝗲 | 𝟮𝟰𝗵𝗿𝘀 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝗜𝘀𝗮𝗶𝗮𝗵 𝗦𝗮𝗹𝗱𝗶𝘃𝗮𝗿
𝗧𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗶𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗿𝘃𝗶𝗲𝘄 𝗺𝗮𝗱𝗲 𝘂𝘀 𝗯𝗲𝘁𝘁𝗲𝗿 𝗽𝗲𝗼𝗽𝗹𝗲 | 𝟮𝟰𝗵𝗿𝘀 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝗕𝗲𝘁𝗵𝗮𝗻𝘆 𝗕𝗲𝗮𝗹
𝗛𝗼𝘄 𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝘄𝗼𝗿𝘀𝗵𝗶𝗽 𝗵𝗮𝘀 𝗰𝗵𝗮𝗻𝗴𝗲𝗱 | 𝟮𝟰𝗵𝗿𝘀 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 ___
𝗖𝗼𝗹𝗶𝗻 𝗠𝗶𝗹𝗹𝗲𝗿 𝗼𝗻 ___, __, 𝗮𝗻𝗱 __ | 𝟮𝟰𝗵𝗿𝘀 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝗖𝗼𝗹𝗶𝗻 𝗠𝗶𝗹𝗹𝗲𝗿
I do agree that 24hrs is missing the clickbait and without a doubt it can be done in a way that is true, lighthearted, and garners anticipation for raw Christian conversations
I really like the preview montage at the beginning of every episode - try compacting those juicy bits into the concept of the thumbnail and title!
Hope these suggestions help :)
That was so kind of you to help!
Really impressed with Paul’s introspection and reflection!
Regarding the 24 hrs with, I think it would be cool to see footage of you guys traveling, arriving at the guests’ houses, etc. And regarding the the thumbnails I think it could be cool to have darker undertones and more serious looking fonts (if that makes sense lol), along with some blurred image of an important highlight of the video. I also think it would be good to take the most controversial part of the video and turn it into the title. “______ confessed his struggles with _____.” Or, “We disagreed with this point _____ brought up.” Or maybe just a candid picture of the guest with several controversial or unexpected lines from the conversation scattered all over the thumbnail. Idk something along those lines.
Thanks for the suggestions! Interesting
God made genitals, but I don't believe that He intended for them to always align with gender/pronouns. Can you direct me to a verse that proves me wrong?
Genesis says "God made them male and female," but in the same pattern it also says that He made night and day. We know that there are many times between night and day, like dawn and dusk, so it's not an exhaustive list of all the possibilities. It is just two of the possibilities that lie on the ends of the spectrum, and presumably it's just referring to genitals since it's talking about the physical part of creation.
Deut.22:5 💗🙏
@@kristinmac4559 Wouldn't that mean that women can't wear pants though, and Morgan wouldn't be able to wear Paul's sweater? I don't see many people following this verse these days, like how many don't follow the verse against tattooing one's body.
@@vanilla00fluff It pertains to what is considered feminine or masculine for that time period.
@@vanilla00fluff and the tattooing verse is talking about tattooing for the dead not what tattooing is today
@@kristinmac4559 So you follow the social norms for the time?
Morgan, I've also suffered from IBS I felt your pain 😢😂
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Sorry you weren’t feeling well Morgan. Love y’all . Always look forward to your videos
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We would say God’s love for US as humans is unconditional- its his love for our sin that is not unconditional. “for God so LOVED the world that he gave his one and only son.” Jesus loved us, while we were still sinners, so much - to make a way for us to be reconciled back to the father. Also - we are not all children of God! We become children of God when we accept Jesus. We are given the RIGHT to become a child of God - it’s not a given.
We just had an ex- gay/transgender couple on our channel (most recent video - check it out)! Probably the best explanation of how we can speak truth in love, that we’ve ever heard!
Appreciate the comment😊
I have to disagree with Morgan which I never do haha 😄 allie can be very sweet most of the time yes but she can also be pretty roughless at times on matters other than the bible ! You guys are definitely more diplomatic and so is girl defined ! Would love a video with Allan parr he is so honest true to the word and kind
I think Dav is rebelling against what the Bible teaches. I am so surprised that his wife goes along with him and even going to his church since she wasn’t brought up that way. Their children will be confused. Praying for this couple.
It's completely okay to question things. Leaders of the faith should be prepared to answer those questions.
I don't like clickbait. I'm glad you don't just greedily go for the most sensational. Please don't feel pressured to go for the most "profitable" option. We shouldn't want to be conditioned into seeking the most extreme and sensational (may I say gosspiy?) content. If a video ends up more spicy than the title let on, great. If we're expecting spicy and getting boring, that's wrong on many different levels.
My question about the transgender pronouns and Morgan you said that you will call a person by their birth pronouns as that is what God intended. My genuine personal struggle is if a person were to be born with a disability that would mean they would die early if not operated on.... I think everyone would agree on the operation being good. No one would say "dont seek medical attention only trust God to heal you as it must be what He intended because you were born this way".
So if a person experiences severe gender disphoria that it makes them want to end their life, and a transition would save that life, is that not similar? I'm talking adults making this change not justifying children being medically transitioned.
Just wrestling with it after talking with a trans person who feels a gender transition saved their life, like its a health issue. Just after thoughts, thanks
So, I think the problem is that how people *feel* is often times not true. So even though people who struggle with gender dysphoria *feel* like they will die without the transition, it just isn’t true. They’re not getting heart surgery. They’re not getting surgery on their brain. They’re getting their body parts changed cosmetically. It is like when a girl feels like dying because she thinks she’s fat even though she’s not. If a girl with anorexia could, she would probably get fat cut off her body, and would feel like it would change her life for the better a lot… except she weighs 115 pounds and is already underweight… the truth is both gender dysphoria and anorexia are mental illnesses. They can’t see or feel or think clearly. That’s why it isn’t good to play into their dysphoria by using their preferred pronouns. It might cause them emotional pain to hear the truth, but to use the pronoun that is a lie just reinforces their delusion, and in the end causes soooooo much more pain and harm than if they had been helped to face the truth and begin to love themselves the way God intended - not making their body their god or their feelings their god, but learning to love who God made them because GOD made them that way with a purpose and in love.
I do think that people who feel like they want to kill themselves if they can’t have their body changed and everyone follow along with their delusion need a lot of good and true friends who love them and support them, but who will not lie to them. Lying is not loving, it just feels like it is. But it isn’t. Lying is normally pain avoidant. You don’t want to lose the relationship or feel like a bad person if the person is ends up turning on you and saying you’re causing them pain. But true love seeks the other’s good even if it means sacrifice and pain for yourself.
Anyway, that was a little ranty. I don’t struggle so much with seeing how transitioning is NOT healthcare or loving, but I do struggle to have courage and love enough to tell the truth and not give into delusions for the sake of making my life easier :/
@@kaitlinrose6352 Another great response!
Curious what you guys think of Jill and Derick Dillard?
They’d be good 24hrs with guests :)
I absolutely disagree that God’s love is not unconditional and I don’t think you can make a case for that biblically at all. Let me explain: 1) to make that argument the only logical explanation must be that his love is conditional. What are those conditions and how far till he no longer loves us? That isn’t something you can make a biblical argument for at all.
2) The next question would be, does God allowing us to be given over to our sin mean he no longer loves us? Another argument you can’t make in scripture.
I’m Catholic and we’re taught God’s love is unconditional. That doesn’t mean you can’t anger, disappoint, or incur God’s wrath.
Interesting video, Pete and Megan!
I think Allie is sweet most of the time, but she can be a bit harsh. I still love her podcast and I think she’s great. Sorry that you weren’t feeling well Morgan, hope you feel better ❤.
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If there is a brother or sister in the church that is in sin, we have the right to say something if they’re in the church but I am praying for Dylan of course because she needs a lot of prayer. I accept all your opinions, Paul Morgan, that you guys are very careful of what you guys say. You guys are very very honest Christians, I wish more Christians can be more honest like you too because I love God so much with all my heart and soul and strength. I wish I can meet you both, but I am praying for Dylan. We all know that Paul says that homosexuality is a sin. It does say that in the Bible, but we cannot say anything to anyone in the world but if they are Christian and they say they are and they go to church we do have the right to say something if someone is living in sin, Paul did say we are too if they are our brother or sister in Christ we have to learn how to take criticism even when we don’t like it.
20:08 Ephesians 2:4-5
"But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ - by grace you have been saved."
Isaiah 54:10
"'For the mountains may depart and the hills be removed, but my steadfast love shall not depart from you, and my covenant of peace shall not be removed,' says the Lord, who has compassion on you."
Just a few of many.
The love of God is unconditional, as His nature is to love. First John 4:7 says, “Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God….” (emphasis added). His pure, perfect, unconditional love moves Him toward selfless action. You guys are such terrible representatives for Christianity.
If our goal is to spread the gospel, you are actively deterring people from wanting anything to do with something that you’re apart of.
Every human walks in a life of sin and walks with Jesus at the same time; it is LITERALLY impossible not to. All have sinned. Period. ONLY Jesus and God can decide WHICH sins they can forgive; not christians , not atheists, not Jews, not Muslims, just God and Jesus. STOP trying to do their job. You are NOT qualified.
Amen Paul. Speaking truth. The Bible does not say that GOD’s love is unconditional.
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You can definitely be a child of god, but only if you change every single thing about yourself to fit into this specific box that random white men established to be true. That doesn’t sound loving, accepting, or authentic to me
You guys are great. P & M are a voice for The Lord in troubled times. Im proud of you guys. If anyone having to do with LGBTQIA want to claim Jesus and claim service to Him, let them. Jesus is The Best for them as He is for all of us.
God Bless us all👍
Using he/him for Dylan is cruel, come on. I can find a lot of compromise and us understanding here and I admire Paul and Morgan for confronting their own views but the hang ups on gender and sexuality with regards to sin are so lame. They can tie it back to god all they want but they’ve left many things in the Bible behind because they don’t fit their specific lifestyles but we gotta keep the ani gay/trans stuff?? Plz
Igniring someone's prefered pronouns is disrespectful. Even if you think it's kind, it will NEVER be perceived as kindness to the person youve disrespected. At least you're letting then know up front that you're not accepting of them, that way they can stay away smdh
For the thumbnails, keep the 24 hours with, bc thats the theme, but make your first draft with no borders so that your full creativity comes out and then tone it down with to what is true and your own borders
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New skill:
Practical - be a great cook (with recipes I know and new ones) and enjoy it. (Because currently I suck & I hate it 😬 but obviously do it everyday so that’s not great for daily life 😩.
Fun - be proficient at guitar & piano including sight reading & playing by ear. Other instruments too. But especially those 2. My music career would have taken off by now if those 2 came easier to me 😩😅
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God’s love is unconditional! There’s nothing we can do to earn it or even take it away but that doesn’t mean God doesn’t have rules and boundaries! God is forgiving, think of the worst person in your eyes, if they go to God sincerely with a willing heart God will forgive them! That to me is unconditional love! Unconditional love doesn’t mean there’s no consequences for actions, unconditional love also doesn’t you have to be in the presence of that person! If we cry out to God, He will help us! That itself is unconditional love! Even those that will be in the lake of fire because of their actions and their choice, God love them. However they didn’t love God and that’s why they will end up in the Lake of fire!
So i dont like most of what you guys have to say. I have pink hair and I act like I have pink hair and thats where I'm coming from.
I just wanted to say that its really extremely nice to see paul decide to try to forego pronouns in regards to dylan.
I understand why condoning trans identities is unacceptable for you.
considering that, its really heartwarming that you found a way to be a little kinder while still sticking to your values. I respect that.
People equate speaking truth as being unkind. So even though in our minds, we believe we are being loving by speaking the truth, it’s seen as being a jerk. (In reference to Morgan’s use of pronouns. I’m just thankful that I don’t have a corporate job anymore cuz yyeeeaaahh lol) and also, I wouldn’t call Allie sweet lol she seems nice but SWEET!? 🤪 Now Candace C is sweet. Love her. Btw, yall are really handling all the feedback and interviews very well- love that you guys don’t get so offended by the feedback and are able to just … discuss and let it go. Although, I’m sure it can get overwhelming at times 🤍
Thanks for the kind words❤️ Haha I would still call Allie sweet! But agree to disagree haha
0:25: 💬 Discussion on late start, bathroom troubles, and child's kick causing stomach pain.
6:26: ⚡ Discussion on Dylan's evolving relationship with God and the use of cringe phrases in P&M After Dark podcast.
12:14: ⛪ Importance of genuine relationship with Christ, repentance from sin, and inclusivity in Christianity.
17:52: ⛪ Reflection on human nature, sin, and redemption through Jesus Christ in light of Dylan's video.
24:32: 🎤 Celebrity culture influences personal faith, challenging traditional beliefs and interpretations.
29:57: 💬 Misunderstanding of being judgmental towards a strong marriage due to different perspectives.
35:52: 💬 Discussion on positive interactions, warmth, and respect leading to engaging conversations with atheists.
41:32: 🌱 Positive impact of conversations from video, hopes for seeds planted and good fruit.
47:36: 📺 Discussion on pronouns, judgment, and perceptions of Ally in P&M After Dark (Ep 17).
54:23: 💥 Revelation of Antichrist's identity leads to explosive content and controversial conversations on the channel.
59:51: 💬 Discussion on viewer feedback, experimentation with thumbnails, and acceptance of personal style choices.
1:05:36: 🎥 Discussion on potential controversial content ideas, viewer suggestions, and unfamiliar Super Chat request.
1:12:24: 📚 Dark middle-grade book 'Saraphina and the Black Cloak' explores the consequences of instantly acquiring skills.
Timestamps by Tammy AI
34:40 the Dave&Morgan Show 😅
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God loves everyone. But not all will be saved.
Really enjoyed the video! Hope Morgan is feeling better! I understand tummy trouble all too well unfortunately :(.
Can I push back on y’all a little on one point? I think when you try to relate to Dylan Mulvaney by saying “we are bad people too” I think that’s a little bit of an incorrect way to say it. We are not “bad” we just all struggle with sin. We are actually good, God loves all of us, we are His beloved sons and daughters, we just screw up. But we need to truly be sorry, and God does forgive! And if Dylan understood his GOODNESS that God gave him, instead of dwelling on his “badness,” that may help him grow! I do agree that we all deserve hell because we are people who make mistakes, and bad decisions, but there is HOPE!
You guys are very sweet. Sure, you have your own views, but i thought you were very respectful. And kind even when you disagreed.
Also, Allie B Stuckey is so awesome! I loved her response to Lauren Diagle's unwillingness to mention Roe VS Wade; she's the only content creator I heard who didn't question Lauren's salvation, just urged her to be more bold and outspoken in what she said, and reminded her on what was non negotiable for Christians. One of the reasons I was put off a lot of the "reformed" world, is how judgmental their channels can seem to be, but Allie seems to balance trurth and love; and she also brings a balance on issues like Andrew Tate, Trad Wives and other issues many in the conservative world don't have.
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I was scared at first…but you ended up handling it well😁
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God’s love IS unconditional. But I think people misunderstand what that means. He loves us so much that He calls us to turn away from sin that leads to our deaths. If we live in sin, God still loves us just as much. But He is not pleased with us, and knows our choices are destroying us. It will cause Him great sadness and pain. God’s love for us is eternal, AND the wages of sin is death. Sin kills us. Sin sends us to hell.
Appreciate you weighing in :)
Love Dav and Beth. Would love watching a 24h with Kristen and her husband.
For the thumbnail, you could put "Brutally Honest " above the 24 hrs with using an edgy font and bold letterling to convey the depth. OR you could do a spin off of the TV show 24 on your thumbnail to appeal to something folks are familiar with
Not a bad idea!
Morgan, I feel you mate... I have suffered 😮💨😰 with IBS-D the majority of my 36 years of life. Sometimes it can be scary to leave the house. Funny though, when I was pregnant with my son, it was the complete opposite. Might have been due to throwing up every single day of the pregnancy not holding down much food. Praying for you and your pregnancy.
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I see people asking and sometimes almost demanding that you guys come across "more loving" or "less judgemental" or whatever else might make you more likable in their sight.
You guys, for these people you'll never be nice enough. I'm not saying don't listen to criticism, but be able to discern where that criticism is coming from.
I hope you have more mature Christians who can guide you and keep you from compromising just to keep some little goats almost happy.
That’s not true. Dav is a Christian though almost everyone considers him a kind and genuine person. That just seems to be Paul and Morgan’s cop out response when they got compared to Dav. They seem to equate being open-minded and overly caring of non believers to being lesser of a Christian which is just not the case.
@@ohuntermc9321Do you think Paul and Morgan are lesser Christians for not being like Dav?
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@@vaness77able I mean that question contrasts away from my point. I'm not arguing Paul and Morgan are necessarily any lesser Christians but Dav has less of a blinkered outlook than those two. You can believe in the Christian ideology wholeheartedly but still be a decent person who knows how to approach a delicate subject with humility. Those two things shouldn't be incompatible. You are going to have a much better rapport with someone when you don't have the us/them mentality.
@@ohuntermc9321 I was curious to know if compared to Dav, you thought M&P were lesser Christians. Those two seem very genuine and warm to me. I don't think they consider Dav a lesser Christian either. However, they pushing on issues such as cursing is completely valid because as Christians we want to obey God's word and want other fellow Christians to do the same because we LOVE them.
In my experience with Christians like Dav, they get liked more by unbelievers who find someone who can relate to them, ans many times (sadly) give them an excuse to continue in their sins 🤷🏻♀️
What makes you think Dylan didn’t already know God???
I thought the Bethany and Dav video was really, really good. I saw a side of Bethany I hadn't seen before. Moving on. Do you really think the Bible addresses transgender identities, ancient tome that it is? What do you mean "turn away from sin"? Aren't we all sinners and fallen short of the glory of God? Do you think Dylan is more of a sinner than you? Why do you constantly put yourself in a place to judge the (supposed) sins of others? I'm sure you've addressed this before, but I'm earnestly interested in how you (and the reprobates in your live chat) address the "judge yet lest ye be judged" scripture. - "That Lady"
LGBT = reprobates according to the bible
What are your opinions on the idea of eternal conscious torment?
That will be for those who refuse to get saved
I second the quote idea for the thumbnails. Or photo in black and white plus “24” on top like the 24 hours tv show cover. Hope it helps!
Thanks!
The real Bethany Beal and Dave pushes back or something similar still honest
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She. She has a relationship with Jesus. Period.
I would love for you to do 24 hours with a Muslim
Hi, guyz how you doing, my take, it's good we understand it cost Christ something to define, what sin is, and if men or women, are going to inject things in their bodies to say I'll make it in heaven think twice, they are those who like the prodigal son, see it was wrong on the first place to change their sex hence go through the journey of returning to the way Christ created them big up to them,coz it shows you are sincerely to reform your ways, but to be content with your sinful ways,"do not be deceive God can not be mocked what so ever you sow in your sinful body that is what you will ripe don't make no mistake? cheers???!!
What in the…..my head is still trying to wrap around this video. I actually paused this video after 15 minutes and took the time to pull up TikTok to watch the full Dylan M video, then came back here.
Others in the audience and P&M themselves already know I am not conservative at all, much more of a progressive Christian. For the record, I can’t stand Allie Stuckey. It’s not because she’s conservative. I listen to P&M all the time even though they are considerably more conservative than I am. She has an abrasive, bullying personality that isn’t appealing. As soon as I listen to her, she makes me feel like the smallest person in the audience and I’ll never amount to more than a bald, talking chimp. I can’t stand Girl Defined either, though in their defense, I am not their target audience and P&M’s recent video makes me hate them considerably less. On the other hand, P&M are likable people who if I saw in the lobby at church, I would go say hello to.
There are a couple things I need to get off my chest here. Firstly - Jesus is not your boyfriend. Nobody should be “dating” God. Ladies - you should never, ever, EVER be referred to as “Jesus Girlies” by anybody. I realize Dylan was trying to use an analogy - but there are many layers of inappropriateness here. As progressive and liberal as my mind is, I just can’t give her that. I have got to take Morgan’s side here - it’s weird. It’s not your imagination - no matter how progressive you are, it’s still weird.
Where I differ is that I believe that the Bible is loaded with ambiguity. Conservatives tend to approach the Bible in a black and white sort of way. It’s either right or it’s wrong, that’s just what the Bible says. The problem with thinking that way is that what makes the Bible such a powerful and timeless book is the fact that it’s not arbitrary. It’s not a book of rules, laws, or even facts. It’s a book of WISDOM. The Old Testament repeats many of the same stories from different time periods, by different authors, from different perspectives. You can’t just pick out verses to prove whatever your viewpoint is. History, context, translation and sources outside of scripture all matter. The sooner you can admit that, the better your relationship with God will be.
The Apostle Paul teaches us in multiple places of the NT to love one another and do not judge. Everyone is guilty of judging. Conservatives love to do it and hate to admit it. The Allie Stuckeys of the world have got to learn to coexist with the Dylan Mulvaneys of the world.
I love you all. I don’t agree with anybody all the time, but I love coexisting with people that are different. To want to be in a community where everyone is just like me is to miss out on the nuances of humanity that make the short life that we have on earth interesting.
I think it's really great that y'all talked to people who criticize you. I think people like Dav because he is trying to follow a very loving and non-judgemental christian view of the world. Something that resonates with the empathy of Jesus and an openness to others. He also looked humble in that a lot of people read the bible differently and he implied that it was complicated to say what exactly is meant by the passages. And considering how humans arent supposed to fully understand God, I think it resonated with christians and non-christians alike.
So I think the way you frame people's appreciation of Dav as standing less on the bible seems to imply that (in your opinion) standing on biblical principles is being less compassionate than Dav is being, while also insisting that you know how the bible should be interpreted since you think some people aren't doing that specific version of the doctrine.
I think the issue with your question to Fundie Fridays is that you were essentially asking for an example of someone exactly like you that doesn't recieve hate but their point is that there would need to be some changes, such as not publicly preaching transphobia or homophobia and showing more willingness to understand and empathize with people with different perspectives.
Why do drinks have to be sweet? Too much sugar in the world these days. Also, I hate flashy thumbnails b/c it seems fake and misrepresentative of the video and is just click bait that I avoid with a passion.
Ahh I was waitinggg to hear your guy’s thoughts on the 24HRS with Bethany & Dav. I 100% agree that I could not be in a marriage like that, I just can’t. It really makes me wonder what the future holds for Girl Defined because Dav has influenced Bethany and so far it’s been great BUT my gut tells me there is more to him that doesn’t sit well with me. Who knows 🤷🏻♀️
Also, you guys should do 24HRS with Alex Clark!
Thumbnail idea: everything in black and white, split screen with half of the face on one side with black backdrop then inverse on the other side
Luca😢 be gentle bud!!
Morgan I am pregnant and I can relate. It’s like pregnancy IBS And it’s so rough. I pray you feel better girl
Maybe use Paul’s Sweater in the thumbnail?! (Kidding!) Your thumbnail just as it is, pulled me in! Regarding the ‘Dav over Paul’ comment & the likes…
my *question to those who gave Dav the ‘thumbs up’, is…
what do you find “warm, friendly & respectful” about his unwholesome talk? (Ephes. 4:29)
❤ I absolutely love my girl Dylan ❤❤
My jaw DROPPED when you said Luca kicked you in the stomach 😭😭 I hope baby is okay
Absolutely no devil horns! No!
I like the split screen idea someone suggested in the superchat.
Wouldn't Romans 8:38-39 support the concept of God's unconditional love?
I love Allie. I hate her opinipns
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Love Allie Beth and her compassion for people she disagreea with! Learning so much from her.
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Are you joking? She’s incredibly patronising and arrogant.
How about a picture of the guest side by side with light of the Lord in Heaven or darkness of Hell?
I’m wondering if maybe God’s love is unconditional (he loves us even in judgement since God is love) but His favor/blessing is not. Thoughts?
I would say that's extremely accurate
Uggh of course you are misgendering Dylan
Paul, the blood orange tangerine spindrift is the best 👌
A can Blue Raspberry Sparkling ice with caffeine
This is so good. It would be so cool is Dylan saw this