Thanks for your good steel guitar advice I play a double-neck eight-string teisco brand steel guitar and I also like I dobro slide much easier to control than a round steel slide
If you want to adjust this more to Dobro you can also do a G6 variant of EGBDEGBD/GBDEGBDE. This is probably my favorite 8 string tuning at the moment :)
Hi. I have acquired a Tremblay 8 string lap steel. I dont know what strings are in it but I would like to tune to A6 or C6. My scale length is 23 inches compared with tour Asher which i read is 25 inches. Would my shorter scale length require different guages from those you mentioned?
I'm trying to get a modern country style sound out of my lap steel. I've got a couple of Bowden benders that I'm going to put on it. What would be the best way to tune it and where do I need to put the benders. I appreciate your help. I really like your lessons.
Hi Troy. I just love watching you teach. I recently bought a 10 String pedal steel, but want to go lap steel with it. I want to know the tuning for country, jazz, swing, and Hawaiian. thank you kindly in advance
@@LessonsWithTroywait, why? I am so new to this but been playing guitar for decades. I’m looking to get a lap steel. I really like Hermanos Gutiérrez and want to play that style, and I notice he used a six. I can handle the extra strings mentally I just wonder if I need one or not and the comment I’m replying to has me thinking
I hope Troy answers your question Carl. In the meantime, If I was to use A6th WITH benders; the following is what I would do: Open tuning (LO to HI): F# A C# E F# G# B E; and bend 2nd string from B to C#; and bend 3rd string from G# to A. This would give some awesome bends AND chords. IE: 1. A or E chords. A C# E and G# B E. Strings 7, 6 and 5; strings 3, 2 and 1. 2. A6th with both benders down. All 8 strings. 3. C# minor. E G# C# (2nd string bend) or G# C# E (2nd string bend) 4. A major 7th. A C# E G#. Strings 7, 6, 5 and 3. Beautiful chord. 5. A major 9th. A C# E G# B. Strings 7, 6, 5, 3 and 2. Beautiful chord. 6. Esus4. E A B or A B E. (3rd string bend) Note: Bending off and on is an awesome "lick". 7. A add 9. A C# E B. Strings 7, 6, 5 and 2. Another awesome chord. 8. A to E chords. Using both bends playing strings 1, 2 and 3. Note: this is the BASE bends of 90 percent of Pedal Steel Guitars. 9. A C# E; strings 6, 5 and 1. A C# E; strings 6, 2 bend and 1. When mastered, these chords embellishes the steel guitar to a musical realm; that few instruments can do. And it is why MANY say that the PSG is the most beautiful sounding musical instrument ever built.
@@MrPatdeeee I have a guyatone double neck eight string lap steel guitar probably from the mid 60's. I'd really like to learn to play classic old country music from the 50s 60's. What would you recommend the tuning be? I'm new too the steel guitar and to be honest, it's over my head! I'm trying to find someone locally to take lessons from but I can't find anyone. Thanks for any information you can provide.
@@jessenelson8831 Hi Jesse. OK, in those years you mentioned; there were 3 popular tunings for country and classic country music on the steel guitar: (Sorry for the VERY long "comment". But it is difficult to do this in writing) The 3 tunings are... E13th; A6th and C6th. Since you have a double 8 neck Steel Guitar; I would suggest you drop the A6th tuning and use the C6th tuning instead; because it is very similar to A6th; but it has a higher melodic sounding tuning. And most like that better. I am one of them. So here are the tunings that are most used on a Double 8 Neck SG: E13th (Hi to LO) E C# B G# F# E D B.Top Neck. C6th (Hi to LO) E C A G E C A F C. Bottom Neck. Some drop the F string and add a high G string on top instead. But most prefer the E on top. The F string changes the tuning really; to an :F major 9th tuning". And many Jam an Jazz type players love that. If you don't like it, change it to either a G or E string. Most prefer the G string. I am one of them. Now if you like A6th better; drop the C6th tuning; and tune it to A6th: A6th (HI to LO) E C# A F# E C# A F#. When you first use those tunings do the following: (Hi to LO) 1. On E13th tuning, only use first E B G# E B strings. These gives you All awesome major chords. After you get used to those sounds; start using the D string; for that gives you a 7th chord. E B G# E D B. Any combination; except every chord MUST have the G# and D strings. After you get used to the major and 7th chords; then start using the C# string. That will give you a minor chord; by muting the B strings; and use the E C# G# strings instead. You can have a minor 7th chord by using E C# G# D. You can drop the E note and play the B instead; for a slightly different sounding minor 7th chord. Later, after you get used to 7th chords then start using F# string for 9th Chords. E B G# F# E D B. Use any combinations. But the F# G# D strings MUST be in their to be a true 9th Chord. After you get used to 9th chords; start using the C# with the entire strings; making 13th chords. But you MUST have C# G# D strings in the chord. 2. On the C6th neck, begin with these two chords: E C A and E C G. The first is a major chord. The 2nd is a minor chord. Use different combinations but those 3 notes MUST be there. After you have become used to the Major and Minor chords then: use minor 7th chords by using G E C A string spellings. And 6th chords by using A G E C string spellings. Now the F string allows Major 7th and Major 9th chords: E C A F makes a Major 7th. G E C A F makes a Major 9th chord. 3. If you choose A6th tuning instead of C6th; simply copy all of the chords on the C6th spellings above. But remember the tuning is one string lower than C6th tuning. Also, there is no equal like the F note on C6th tuning. This should help you friend. May Jesus bless you and yours always. @Jesse Nelson Hi Jesse.
Good playing and great tutorials at your website. You certainly worked hard to develop and put all this together.
Thanks for your good steel guitar advice I play a double-neck eight-string teisco brand steel guitar and I also like I dobro slide much easier to control than a round steel slide
If you want to adjust this more to Dobro you can also do a G6 variant of EGBDEGBD/GBDEGBDE. This is probably my favorite 8 string tuning at the moment :)
Great stuff Troy!
Hi. I have acquired a Tremblay 8 string lap steel. I dont know what strings are in it but I would like to tune to A6 or C6. My scale length is 23 inches compared with tour Asher which i read is 25 inches.
Would my shorter scale length require different guages from those you mentioned?
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I'm trying to get a modern country style sound out of my lap steel. I've got a couple of Bowden benders that I'm going to put on it. What would be the best way to tune it and where do I need to put the benders. I appreciate your help. I really like your lessons.
Hey enjoy all your videos! Could you tune to A E9th tune?
Hi Troy.
I just love watching you teach.
I recently bought a 10 String pedal steel, but want to go lap steel with it.
I want to know the tuning for country, jazz, swing, and Hawaiian.
thank you kindly in advance
Please explain the difference between 6 and 8 string boards... I now have 8 string envy😔
Honestly you don't really need an 8 string if you are playing CEGACE tuning but it's kinda nice for A6 tuning
@@LessonsWithTroy Well said Troy.
@@LessonsWithTroywait, why? I am so new to this but been playing guitar for decades. I’m looking to get a lap steel. I really like Hermanos Gutiérrez and want to play that style, and I notice he used a six. I can handle the extra strings mentally I just wonder if I need one or not and the comment I’m replying to has me thinking
do you prefer A6 over C6.I play mainly classic country.
What’s the name of the EGBDEGBD Tuning please ?
What is that pad you are using under the strings?
would certano benders work in A6?.If so what would be a good setup?
I hope Troy answers your question Carl. In the meantime, If I was to use A6th WITH benders; the following is what I would do:
Open tuning (LO to HI): F# A C# E F# G# B E; and bend 2nd string from B to C#; and bend 3rd string from G# to A. This would give some awesome bends AND chords. IE:
1. A or E chords. A C# E and G# B E. Strings 7, 6 and 5; strings 3, 2 and 1.
2. A6th with both benders down. All 8 strings.
3. C# minor. E G# C# (2nd string bend) or G# C# E (2nd string bend)
4. A major 7th. A C# E G#. Strings 7, 6, 5 and 3. Beautiful chord.
5. A major 9th. A C# E G# B. Strings 7, 6, 5, 3 and 2. Beautiful chord.
6. Esus4. E A B or A B E. (3rd string bend) Note: Bending off and on is an awesome "lick".
7. A add 9. A C# E B. Strings 7, 6, 5 and 2. Another awesome chord.
8. A to E chords. Using both bends playing strings 1, 2 and 3. Note: this is the BASE bends of 90 percent of Pedal Steel Guitars.
9. A C# E; strings 6, 5 and 1. A C# E; strings 6, 2 bend and 1.
When mastered, these chords embellishes the steel guitar to a musical realm; that few instruments can do. And it is why MANY say that the PSG is the most beautiful sounding musical instrument ever built.
@@MrPatdeeee I have a guyatone double neck eight string lap steel guitar probably from the mid 60's. I'd really like to learn to play classic old country music from the 50s 60's. What would you recommend the tuning be? I'm new too the steel guitar and to be honest, it's over my head! I'm trying to find someone locally to take lessons from but I can't find anyone. Thanks for any information you can provide.
@@jessenelson8831 Hi Jesse.
OK, in those years you mentioned; there were 3 popular tunings for country and classic country music on the steel guitar:
(Sorry for the VERY long "comment". But it is difficult to do this in writing)
The 3 tunings are...
E13th; A6th and C6th. Since you have a double 8 neck Steel Guitar; I would suggest you drop the A6th tuning and use the C6th tuning instead; because it is very similar to A6th; but it has a higher melodic sounding tuning. And most like that better. I am one of them.
So here are the tunings that are most used on a Double 8 Neck SG:
E13th (Hi to LO) E C# B G# F# E D B.Top Neck.
C6th (Hi to LO) E C A G E C A F C. Bottom Neck. Some drop the F string and add a high G string on top instead. But most prefer the E on top.
The F string changes the tuning really; to an :F major 9th tuning". And many Jam an Jazz type players love that. If you don't like it, change it to either a G or E string. Most prefer the G string. I am one of them.
Now if you like A6th better; drop the C6th tuning; and tune it to A6th:
A6th (HI to LO) E C# A F# E C# A F#.
When you first use those tunings do the following: (Hi to LO)
1. On E13th tuning, only use first E B G# E B strings. These gives you All awesome major chords. After you get used to those sounds; start using the D string; for that gives you a 7th chord. E B G# E D B. Any combination; except every chord MUST have the G# and D strings.
After you get used to the major and 7th chords; then start using the C# string. That will give you a minor chord; by muting the B strings; and use the E C# G# strings instead.
You can have a minor 7th chord by using E C# G# D. You can drop the E note and play the B instead; for a slightly different sounding minor 7th chord.
Later, after you get used to 7th chords then start using F# string for 9th Chords. E B G# F# E D B. Use any combinations. But the F# G# D strings MUST be in their to be a true 9th Chord.
After you get used to 9th chords; start using the C# with the entire strings; making 13th chords. But you MUST have C# G# D strings in the chord.
2. On the C6th neck, begin with these two chords: E C A and E C G. The first is a major chord. The 2nd is a minor chord. Use different combinations but those 3 notes MUST be there.
After you have become used to the Major and Minor chords then: use minor 7th chords by using G E C A string spellings. And 6th chords by using A G E C string spellings.
Now the F string allows Major 7th and Major 9th chords: E C A F makes a Major 7th. G E C A F makes a Major 9th chord.
3. If you choose A6th tuning instead of C6th; simply copy all of the chords on the C6th spellings above. But remember the tuning is one string lower than C6th tuning. Also, there is no equal like the F note on C6th tuning.
This should help you friend. May Jesus bless you and yours always. @Jesse Nelson Hi Jesse.
that tuning was 2 faced! literally.
What I'd like to know is, why 8 strings? What is the advantage? Pros and cons?
Greater note range.
You have the size string for a 12 string bye