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Every trial should be televised in this country. There is no reason for a lack of transparency, ever. EVER.
You are So Wrong and unaware😮
@@vhswan3833 This is a case involving the murder of two minors. They have every right to not allow cameras. You are still getting media allowed to attend and report on what was witnessed in the courtroom. You, like everyone else, want the play by play of what lead to the pain and suffering of two families to be televised so you can satisfy your morbid curiosity for gruesome details under the guise of “just wanting justice”
What if the families requested it ? Did you ever think of that ? Two children had their throats slit and they bled out . Is your need for a salacious crime story more important than the families victims ? The answer is No ! Grow up
Right? And then social media couldnt influence it if we were all able to see the truth now just mainstream journalists can keep lying to us. Of course the judge in that area won't let the Odin stuff in then we would all know the corruption
Don and Tina need to go look up the 6th Amendment. It's the trial of Richard Allen, which means he has the rights that go along with a fair trial.
Also, Tina, should the loved ones happen to come across these comments, they may appreciate a little more tact with how you talk about their girls.
Thank you for saying what needed to be said. I have unsubscribed to almost all the true crime channels that I followed because of these issues. Facts and evidence are superfluous. They’re contributing to and in some cases instigating tribalism and personality favoritism for views. The girls and justice are secondary if not completely forgotten. I greatly appreciate your integrity and ethics.
I stopped subscribing from channels a long time ago.
tribalism, you're right, and virtue signalling all around, when we barely know the basics of what happened.
Me too! This is the only place I have found such honesty and am able to actually learn things. It is downright sickening witnessing the voracious appetites that social media has for this story and their twisting and turning of the narrative into what they want it to be to indulge their insatiable greed.
I feel the same way about some of the commenters. They can try and cod themselves that they want full coverage “to ensure that justice is truly served”, but the fact of the matter is that not all serious criminal trials are televised, it is being recorded and members of the public are not excluded, which is what’s required. Sure, not to the extent we can all rubberneck and misinterpret ad nauseum (a single hair becomes a clump of hair in some camps for example)
The whole thing has become a dog-and-pony show, and frankly I think Judge Gull made the right decision. It allows a modicum of respect and dignity to those two girls that whomever murdered them didn’t, as well as to their families.
Once the images and exhibits are out there, they will be used and exploited for decades to come, traumatising and retraumatising their loved ones and the community.
@maireadnic8280 Now You have been paying attention and 'kudos' on your Old School Ways.
I think you are wrong. You seem to think there is never any corruption among law officiers. I think its great that everyone is analyzing this case. There is a greater chance the truth will come out.
There are lazy law officers, not very smart officers… just because they detained someone doesn’t mean they got the murderer. I don’t think in this video we should see RA’s face as we hear of this horrible crime, he is not convicted yet, he is still innocent.
To me it’s hard to believe that it was him. I think few people did it, and they knew girls were going to be there
@@theresagosnell7645 consider your words "everyone is anal-eyes"
@theresagosnell7645 EveryOne anal-eyesing? No confusion there huh 🤔
@@theresagosnell7645
Look up Karen Reed in Canton, Mass. She got set up by the entire precinct and an ATF agent.
@@A-privilege-not.a-right I definitely think this whole town is corrupt.
Instead of talking about what they learned in court, the media whinged about their hardships 😂
@@bogdiworksV2 right!? Welcome back to the land before technology, the land of pencils has begun!
@@cvp2000 good sharp point. Get it?
@@DonSpencer-g5n ha!😂
I think it’s very odd they haven’t run tests on the hair after all this time.
They only care if it was Richard Allen’s otherwise they consider it irrelevant imo
@@katerinakaye2228 yep! How could they not? Makes no sense
So glad you are going to cover this. Thank you Nick
Hi Yankee. Hope you are well. ❤
They should of confirmed whether that hair is from a family member or not by now. Unbelievable
In the USA, our constitution guarantees every defendant the right to a speedy, fair, and PUBLIC trial by a jury of their peers. All of these parts are essential to justice in the eyes of Americans because we govern ourselves through our representatives, and we hold the reps accountable through our votes. Voters (the public) must be able to see what our government is doing in order to hold them accountable. We believe an open trial is more likely to produce a just outcome because everything that is done is open to scrutiny. We don’t just trust-we should be able to verify. There maybe bad actors that are drawn to an open trial, but that cannot be reason to violate the constitution.
This judge is subverting the Indiana law that says at least an audio recording will be available, if not video. She is also making it nigh unto impossible for the media and public to even attend the trial by not allowing water or food in the court, but making them stand in line for a seat. There’s no time for them to get any refreshment and continue observing in court. She is violating the letter and the spirit of a public trial and this is why the media and many in the public are upset.
You're mixing up televised with closed. It doesn't mean held in secret. Lots of countries including mine, don't have televised trials but it doesn't mean the justice system isn't open. It happens in different ways than gawking through a camera, is all. And doesn't involve llamas on leads outside the courthouse and other such circus lunacy.
It wasn’t until Ted Bundy’s trial that cameras were allowed in the court.. clearly the definition of public does not correlate to cameras.. ridiculous
@@Canyouseeanypartofme I don’t think I or anyone else said public means cameras. But I do know “public” in Indiana means at least audio recording made available as that is the law. Also, making it as hard as possible to attend the trial violates the spirit of “public” as well. Not ridiculous, just an open process.
Thank you for beautifully stating what so many are unaware of or have simply forgotten.
Thank you for saying this
Why haven't they tested the hair?
Thank you for covering this!
This will be addressed. Be patient
The victim in the Jodi Arias case was killed while showering. It wasn't an attempt to wash the body after he died
Maybe he was referencing her attempt to destroy the camera in the washing machine? I'm too lazy to go back and listen to that part of the video.
Wasn't there blood in the hall and bathroom where the struggle took place? It started in the shower, continued outside it, then, she placed him back in the shower?
Ya haven't asked the most correct question. How come Jodi chose the time of showering?
@@DonSpencer-g5n do you know? Have you asked her? Did she tell you? Are you a mind reader? I can only speculate just like you. You don't KNOW why she chose the shower. Seems to me it would be very slippery and a stupid place to hack someone up and yes some evidence would be washed away but certainly not all so who knows why she chose the shower
@@yvonnehansen4888 yes
why don't they play the whole video of the bridge guy ?!
I daresay they will, but it wasn’t directly related to the witnesses, mainly the girls’ family members, that were on the stand yesterday.
It will likely be played next week.
The video is 43 seconds long. Libbey took the video of bridge guy from 60ft away. She left the video going but put the phone in her pocket as bridge guy approached them so it’s almost all just audio. The audio of what the girls say has been edited out in the publications of the video. I have se
Read the transcript (not verified) of what the girls said but I won’t write what I have seen as being said in a comment on RUclips until it’s verified as proof in court.
Patience😮
@@courtneyd9438 You’ve more or less already stated what you’ve seen as being said might not be accurate, so why not just write what was said and add a disclaimer that it may not be accurate until those reporting on the trial reveal the exact words, once the full unedited video is played in court?
Here in the US we ARE entitled to see the trial and know all the evidence
Entitlement is Selfish😮
@@DonSpencer-g5n our constitution makes us entitled. It's the law. It's not selfish it to keep the judicial system transparent and held responsible for it's actions. It's a right given to us. Maybe don't speak on stuff you don't know about. No one in the US gives a rats ass if you think it's selfish. It's how our judicial system works
@@katherines9304 "Not giving even a Rat's Ass'? Is that selfish 😒
¿ how ya figure
You’re not entitled to Jack shite!
Libby couldn’t wear Abby’s clothes, kind of obvious who was wearing what and why the other wasn’t clothed
Duh
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Richard's daughter looks exactly like a grown-up Libby, and he took that creepy photo of her face down on the bed wearing the tie-dyed t-shirt, and there was that pic of her posing on the bridge, and she was about to be married when the crimes happened...
awesome story but why at that location with a friend, two phones on them and houses in site across a creek by yourself ?
You are so right, once again Nick! 👍
How is asking questions and forming theories on this case different than doing the same in the JonBenet or Madeleine McCann cases?
Upper class superiority, were all just "blicks" to some, and it leaks out from time to time. The hypocrisy comes from that entitlement, his establishment.
It's different. As a Student Continue learning from Nick. He shows which question are pertinent. Asking the right question is 'Key'😮
@@Sharon_Smiles Think this one over> 'Neither of those aforementioned cases have been solved'?
@@DonSpencer-g5n
We don’t know if this one has been solved either. And, I believe this guy is referring to the questions and speculations prior to anyone hearing about RA.
@@DonSpencer-g5n
One of the aforementioned cases COULD have been solved.
I am a Canadian and in my country every trial is gaged and no cameras if we’re lucky we get sketches throughout
I guess the rules there are very different then.
Yep, a fascist society doesn't want it's citizens knowing what is going on.
Communism
@@evelynannroseYou a Trump lover? He loves the communists!
I’m so glad this case is closed to public - we can wait till after the trial to hear the evidence
Plus- this case involves children and they deserve privacy
Closing a case off to the public is unconstitutional according to the US Supreme Court and there is good reason for that
As someone with a constantly colorful vocabulary myself, I love it when you suddenly throw out a curse word 🤣
@@chriscavy I’ve been working on mine for half a century 😂
Sorry, but I detest it and I think less of those that do use bad language. It is offensive to me.
@@judymurray191 Everyone is welcome to their preferences, cheers friend 😄
@chriscavy someone has to ReallyRial Nick to cause Explicit language like that but those of us knowing him realize the Gravity of the circumstances he was referring to. And then to realize the size of viewership some of those influencers attract Really causes one to just give up on humankind. And this is 😔 Sad
I think the public has the right to see every single court proceeding as long as they don’t show the jury or minor witnesses.
Minor witnesses need to be recorded and kept out of the court room facing the adult criminal repeating endlessly.... What happened.
Who is the Republic
You are spot on! Thank you for all your amazing work and sharing truth. Much appreciation for all you do!
I totally agree with you nick, the whole case needs to be held and heard in a court of law, not public opinion! I'm also fed up to the back teeth of reporters stoming their feet with the indignant self-entitlement that they do!
The only people who have the right of entitlement are the families of these two poor girls, whose lives were taken early in such horrendous circumstances.
Keep on keeping it real. ❤
I agree, the identity of investigation must be protected. People tend to rush into wrong conclusions and accusitions, very often dismissing basic facts.
You Are the BEST!!!!
Agree!🥰
That's not just an opinion it's a fact!
I was waiting for you to delve into this case.
I did not know the fact about the clothing or the neck injuries… i just keep thinking how terrified these innocent girls must have been. I believe Allen was on the bridge and did this. I question whether someone else was waiting down the hill. I am scared we will never know. 😰
I just can't know but I think Libby was the first main target
I think the one thing that people forget is these two little girls never were able to fall in love to be married. Have children and their last experience in life was some scumbag. Whoever it is touching them and hurting them. That is what everybody needs to be caring about. That's why we need more helicopter parents.
Watch your children no one will take as good of care of your children as you should.😢
@@princessinaworldofevil many lack empathy. They don't care.
How does this prove they have the correct killer? Not convinced yet he did it. It isn’t solved yet.
They talk about the clothing and Abbie was dressed in Libbys clothes BUT the report when the girls went missing said libby was wearing a tie dyed shirt with fringing n black joggers… where has the swim hoodie and jeans come from?? Im thinking the person who dropped them off and the last person to see the girls
I'm so glad I subscribed to your channel. You bring a viewpoint based on evidence on a lot of cases that I had studied so well ,but you keep coming up with new little bits of information all the time.
Thank you so much. You're now my go to see everything there is to know about these cases.
Excellent Nick! 👍👍
Thanks for speaking out on the police pinata phenomenon and the privilege complex of the TC community.
Thanks!
Let me get this straight..shame on any RUclipsrs for having an opinion. Except for you. What a hypocrite! You make your living off of true crime too! Geez!
Thank you ..
It's easy to move through light woods in Autumn. Deep leaf piles hiding unfriendly holes and fallen branches are the main obstacles to running
How much do settlements for police abuse cost taxpayers every year ?
fantastic video
Bravo to the judge. IMO, I believe with all the commotion surrounding this case, she made the right decision.
The main focus should only be on the victims, Abigail and Liberty. And swift Justice for them.
R.A. Just forgot who was wearing what !! 😮😮
and he forgot his binoculars to see the fish real good from the bridge too ....
Hair can't be forensically matched without the root ball attached. Otherwise the best you can present is a hair similar in appearance to this person.
The root was attached
@@stephanieh0712 very interesting! They (prosecution) should be able to positively identify the owner or at least exclude anyone from Richard Allen's house. Thanks for the info!!!
@cvp2000 you're welcome. Some of Libby's family gave DNA samples for including/excluding. Waiting on results.
That should of been done when tne hair was first found. Not waiting till trial to get results
Unbelievable. @@stephanieh0712
Well said
Im from Indiana the worst state for corruption 😮
8:30 Exactly! A little bit of respect for the family and the victims. It is a sacred process, not a circus.
He complains about opinion but just talks about his own opinion ! 😮
And every time they're called out on it their weak comeback is always the couple who spotted Gabby Petito's van in Wyoming always using that as an excuse for getting involved and f***ing up the cases 🤬
RA wasn't there at 3:15 to hear a phone.His phone proves he was at a different location by 2:15
Hopefully the evidence proves to be beyond reasonable doubt… I would prefer they allow cameras as then people can use their own discernment rather than relying on media speak
Agree. We all know that media have no problem lying, they can sell any narrative they want because most of the people just blindly believe media
This is a touchy case, Nick, thank you and keep us informed.
You condemn true crime channels for what they do...yet here you are, a true crime channel. You're no better or no worse than the others. You're a part of what you condemn. Why do you think you're any different?
Whatever
Condemning is a strong word, how about calling out.
The pot calling the kettle black.
The clothing thing has been known, I've seen several YTers reporting this as if it some kind of revelation... am I missing something?
I so agree with you. 👍
Whiny reporters. No cameras !
I'd call this case far from solved at the moment. I disagree with you on this. The 'conspiracy theories' that have arisen for this case have come from what the defence have released and how LE and Gull have behaved. The PCA is pretty much the weakest one I've seen - not one witness agrees on the description of the clothes, not once car matches Richard Allen's. The bullet? No chain of discovery according to the defence.
Gull got rid of Baldwin and Rossi and appointed two attorneys of her choice. Even the latter two attorneys were disgusted at the treatment of RA. What has gone on behind the scenes here, (according to these attorneys, not social media), makes the lack of cameras/audio in court the wrong choice in my opinion. I understand wanting to avoid a circus, but instead we have interpretations from MSM. Chinese whispers? Misinterpretation? Plenty of room for that! The injuries on the girls, how they were found and the clothing has been in the public domain for some time now.
Justice is for the people and decided by a jury of peers representing a random swath of the population, aka the people! Guilt or innocence is decided by the people and the judiciary is present to inform of and give instructions as to the law so the people can decide if a crime occurred. And how the law applies. Then they facilitate the process of justice. Media should be present. Transparency should be ensured. Justice is in the interest of We the people! We are the ones who will be victimized if justice fails!
No way in hell, a female wasn't involved. NO. WAY.
Maybe the killer planned on taking her and she put on whatever clothes was near her
Good morning Nick ❤
Sin 😭 😭 😭
You know if that trial allowed cameras the views would break the Internet the way kim k thought she did.
I have wondered what this meant.
This shows that the person or persons were in no big rush & staged the scene! All these things took a great deal of time! Yet there were hundreds out there looking for them!
I like this video because it’s about the fact and none bs factors that is so respectful of you so thank you so much Nick 🙌🏻
I have been trying to communicate this on other channels and men people are so rude and far off base
I mean have a little faith in the jurors and the justice system
Truth will prevail
In the end
The conspiracy theorists are going wild
I guess people just lost their ability to be logical 😅
I think true crime has shown how corrupt and inept our justice aystem is and funny how NOT 1 PERSON said richard allen with that video. But yet everyone in his commnnity knew him
Yea we already knew this
Nick have you ever looked into the murders of the notorious BIG and Tupac? It’s a labyrinth that I would love to get your take on
I still think bridge guy was Ron Logan and he and Kegan Kline did it.
This is not new information, we’ve known for years that they had eachother clothes on
Are you saying that this case has been solved ? That sounds like what you said.
Good video
I believe libby was trying to protect abby. Abby was last to die. I think there was attempt of rape during ordeal a d because they fought back the killer killed them in a bit of rage. While struggling, abby got ahold of hair.
This is so sad.
Worst part is that DNA & other evidence shows that Richard Allen is likely not the right guy...
These girls deserve justice with all the correct perpetrators being punished.
Why would the 2 girls.not try to run
@@marysweeney486 Gun ? Shock?
That’s victim blaming. Second, we think he had a gun. Even if he didn’t, freezing is a common response to dangerous situations. Be thankful you have never had to learn this IRL, you never know how you will respond in a situation like this.
Flight or fright and I have at 6 and literally ran all the way home crying
@@hallievanoutryve3109asking a legit question isn’t “victim blaming,” and people become victims sometimes, because of the choices they make or don’t make, that’s just a fact it’s not “blaming” the victim. I mean, these girls saw this guy coming, they shouldn’t have stuck around but they did for whatever reason and sadly this terrible man got his hands on them. Did they deserve what happened because they didn’t run away? Definitely NOT but, this is what happens.
yikes. nonsense... as if they are completely toned deaf to the right to a fair defense
Everything in a public trial should be seen by the public.
Unlike in Read, the jury is sequestered in this trial and also from outside the community, so there is no reason to withhold the evidence or testimony on the basis it might influence the jury. I believe making it more common to sequester juries could be a solution to the problems of public influence on the trial.
I also believe all trials should be filmed and the testimony made public, but after the trial is complete. It is ridiculous we still rely on one person's typed transcript as the official record of what happened in a trial.
❤
Allen looks younger than the man in clip
I agree with the courthouse keeping the media circus away. The read case was RIDICULOUS & UNFAIR, biased.
That hair is integral, why has it not been tested?
👎Ze všech videí, co jsem od vás zhlédla, poprvé dávám palec dolů. Myslím, že jste se do tohoto případu neponořil dostatečně a hlavně soudkyně je neuvěřitelné arogantní a zaujatá proti obhájcům, proto se všemožně snaží udržet soudní jednání ve tmě. Jinak si vás neskutečně vážím a vaše videa miluji.
What do you think is the most common thread of thought among everyone? (Regarding guilt, yay or nay?)It would be interesting to hear your thoughts. Sorry, I don't know your name.
It is always important to remember that law enforcement officers and criminals generally share the same personality traits .
they got to you too. funny you make a 1000 videos on true crime, with many victims but now everyone one else making content is social media. Hypocrite
judge gull has put all media in the dark regardless of how they make their money. This case needs more sunlight not less. you sound like a prosecution shill
This is why I wouldn't pay your channel a penny.
Or is it just cause you don’t have a penny??
Lol how hypocritical 😂 as if this channel is any different from any of the other sensationalizing youtube channels. You're not exactly wrong but you're not really in a position to criticize as you're the thing you're talking about. You profit from it all too, and you're not bringing "justice" to anyone either. You're making entertainment of it... just like everyone else.
Well said. Too many people are giving their opinions, and those opinions are having an influence. Not many details should be released until afterwards, as the saying goes, "Too many cooks spoil the broth."
When 4 people have confessed to the crime and only the one who confessed after being forceably drugged stuck in solitary confinement and abused until driven insane is considered to be true then something is very corrupt
I believe 100% that the "Guys!" and the "DOWN THE HILL!" are from 2 different men. I believe that the "DTH" voice is Ron Logan's.
I agree that it’s best to keep the media influence really toned down.
I hope that they have the right guy, and that it's not some cover-up, and that Richard Allen isn't a scapegoat. So the odinist theory is so far fetched, how did they come up with it? I'm going to be watching this trial and deciding from the evidence. I can't fathom that there would not be any DNA at the scene from the killer/ Killers.....
Stop bashing and honor these victims. Just the facts please, annoying foreigner giving us 2 cents
Society as a whole believes that they are more important than anyone or anything around them. Selfishness is the rule of the day. And it’s why these poor girls were murdered. God bless their families. May they find justice.
Justice is for the people and decided by a jury of peers representing a random swath of the population, aka the people! Guilt or innocence is decided by the people and the judiciary is present to inform of and give instructions as to the law so the people can decide if a crime occurred. And how the law applies. Then they facilitate the process of justice. Media should be present. Transparency should be ensured. Justice is in the interest of We the people! We are the ones who will be victimized if justice fails!