Can Mercenary CopyCat Infantry Beat the Real Deal in OG Rome: Total War?

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  • Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024

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  • @MinhHuynh-yf6qk
    @MinhHuynh-yf6qk 20 дней назад +25

    triarii vs samnite is quite one-sided from the get go

    • @qualityoldgames7721
      @qualityoldgames7721  20 дней назад +1

      Agreed :) Thanks for the comment.

    • @Warmaker01
      @Warmaker01 20 дней назад +1

      Samnite spears are still useful mercenaries for the Romans. Don't get enough Triarii. Hell, even when the Roman factions finally venture outside the Italian peninsula, mercenary spear units are still needed to round out the roster. Even those warband spear units I found use. Either to take cavalry charges to the face or operate the riskier stuff like siege towers and battering rams, absorb missile fire. I'll save my more precious heavy infantry for when it matters. Entire stacks composed solely of Roman heavy infantry are expensive.

  • @frels1337
    @frels1337 20 дней назад +16

    Very useful for Roman Factions since no good spears.

    • @Gitsmasher
      @Gitsmasher 20 дней назад +5

      Yeah i often hire those spear warband for pushing the battering rams, or catching enemy javelins with their heads😂

    • @qualityoldgames7721
      @qualityoldgames7721  20 дней назад +2

      Agreed, and available early, since one does not get too many Triarii :) Thanks for the comment.

    • @qualityoldgames7721
      @qualityoldgames7721  20 дней назад +1

      @@Gitsmasher :D A good way to use them. Thanks for the comment.

  • @priximus2254
    @priximus2254 20 дней назад +15

    playing as a non phalanx using faction merc hoplites can be a real ásset

  • @roelandCaesar
    @roelandCaesar 18 дней назад +3

    We need a part two featuring: Bastarnae vs Bastarnae Mercs, Scythian horse archer vs Scythian horse archer mercs, Sarmatian cavalry vs Sarmatian mercs, Eastern infantry, Numidian cavalry vs Numidian mercs and the elephants

    • @qualityoldgames7721
      @qualityoldgames7721  18 дней назад +1

      Thanks for the comment. Further parts are coming, next one being released tomorrow :)

    • @roelandCaesar
      @roelandCaesar 18 дней назад +1

      @@qualityoldgames7721 thank you, I really your video ideas!

  • @DelicateCheese
    @DelicateCheese 20 дней назад +8

    I noticed that every time it was the rebel side that lost, and whenever I play I find the rebel units die faster. Is there anything in the game files that messes with rebel faction troops?
    I’m astonished mercenary hoplites lost, I figured the points where they’re winded vs tired for 10 seconds would have made them win. 3/2 regular hoplites, who needs stamina anyway

    • @qualityoldgames7721
      @qualityoldgames7721  20 дней назад +3

      Thanks for the comment. There might very well be some hidden morale trait for Rebels :)

    • @Chaossoul87
      @Chaossoul87 19 дней назад +1

      @@qualityoldgames7721 Perhaps try a version where it's regular troops vs. regular troops, with one side being rebel and the other a normal faction, see if this holds water?

    • @anthonythibert7022
      @anthonythibert7022 7 дней назад +1

      In game the rebels are described as escaped slaves. Perhaps a life of hardship along with being physically malnourished and likely very easily demoralized as a result would be the in game explanation for that.
      The hoplites, who would win, soldiers drafted to fight for their nation or sell swords? Well that all depends on the training and troop quality but one would be biased for the people fighting for a legitimate nation/city state

  • @Xander77Ru
    @Xander77Ru 20 дней назад +9

    1. Yo where's the "3 out of 5 for the hoplites" summary?
    2. Damn, the Samnites lose to the Axulia. Weak.

    • @antiepix9555
      @antiepix9555 20 дней назад +7

      No wonder why the Samnites got demolished by the Romans IRL!

    • @qualityoldgames7721
      @qualityoldgames7721  20 дней назад +3

      Thanks for the comment. Well, have had some wrongly put results in WH3 vids but I guess the end result in Rome is clear enough :)

  • @generalRAAM95
    @generalRAAM95 20 дней назад +3

    A quite expensive rooster. Only in desperate situations do I hire them.

    • @qualityoldgames7721
      @qualityoldgames7721  20 дней назад +2

      Thanks for the comment. Agreed on the price. What I like about them is that they can keep an attack going :)

    • @generalRAAM95
      @generalRAAM95 20 дней назад +1

      @@qualityoldgames7721 That's true as well! Especially when your faction lavksa specific type of unit.

  • @Gitsmasher
    @Gitsmasher 20 дней назад +4

    I thank you man, for doing my request about mercenaries vs original counterpart👍
    I guess these mercenaries scum using their wages for drink&women instead of upgrading their equipment😂😂

    • @qualityoldgames7721
      @qualityoldgames7721  20 дней назад +1

      Seems to be the case :D More of these coming this week. Thanks for the comment.

  • @squishymusic9723
    @squishymusic9723 20 дней назад +2

    Is the merc hoplites "good stamina" an Anabasis reference? 🤔😅

    • @qualityoldgames7721
      @qualityoldgames7721  19 дней назад

      Hmm. A good question. My question is what is an Anabasis reference? :D Thanks for the comment.

    • @squishymusic9723
      @squishymusic9723 18 дней назад +1

      @@qualityoldgames7721 oh right! 👀
      The Anabasis of Xenophon is the name of an epic retreat of 10,000 greek mercenaries from the heart of the *persian empire back to greece after their buying died.
      They did a lot of marching 😅

    • @qualityoldgames7721
      @qualityoldgames7721  18 дней назад +1

      @@squishymusic9723 Ah, I actually just read a book from Conn Iggulden exactly about that. I think it was Hawk/Falcon of Sparta (my translation from Finnish) :) Thanks for the comment.

    • @squishymusic9723
      @squishymusic9723 18 дней назад

      @@qualityoldgames7721 oooh. I will have to check that out then! 😅👀

  • @Aragornofmoria
    @Aragornofmoria 20 дней назад +3

    Do samnites v triarii in the woods to see the combat bonus

    • @qualityoldgames7721
      @qualityoldgames7721  20 дней назад +2

      Thanks for the suggestion. I will add that to TO-Do list :)

  • @imperioseleucida1157
    @imperioseleucida1157 20 дней назад +4

    Barbarian Calvary vs barbarian mercenary?

  • @nelsonhill4625
    @nelsonhill4625 20 дней назад +1

    I thought hoplites fought with spears.

    • @qualityoldgames7721
      @qualityoldgames7721  20 дней назад

      I think they did, except in close quarters :) Thanks for the comment.

  • @Aragornofmoria
    @Aragornofmoria 20 дней назад +7

    I love the green look

    • @qualityoldgames7721
      @qualityoldgames7721  20 дней назад +1

      Fully agreed on that. One of the favorite color themes in the game :) Thanks for the comment.

    • @Aragornofmoria
      @Aragornofmoria 20 дней назад +1

      @@qualityoldgames7721 *favourite, American spelling is for plebs. But yes I agree

    • @camulodunon
      @camulodunon 20 дней назад +1

      @@Aragornofmoria american spelling is actually one of the few things that make more sense than the non-american version.

    • @Aragornofmoria
      @Aragornofmoria 20 дней назад

      @@camulodunon just pleb behaviour

  • @dangreen7067
    @dangreen7067 19 дней назад +1

    how about letting town watch fight against other units?

    • @qualityoldgames7721
      @qualityoldgames7721  19 дней назад

      Well, that would likely be quite a few town watches routing :) Thanks for the comment.

  • @A.Guy10000
    @A.Guy10000 20 дней назад +2

    Why are the stats meaningless in this game?

    • @shrouddreamer
      @shrouddreamer 20 дней назад +6

      Sorry, could you be a bit more specific, please? I don't get what you mean.

    • @qualityoldgames7721
      @qualityoldgames7721  20 дней назад +2

      Huh? Are you referring to the Hoplites match? :) Thanks for the comment.

    • @A.Guy10000
      @A.Guy10000 18 дней назад +1

      Yeah, the hoplites match. They have the same stats except the mercenaries have good sgamina, why would they lose?

    • @shrouddreamer
      @shrouddreamer 18 дней назад +1

      @@A.Guy10000 Stamina is the only trait the mercenaries have over the regular hoplites. But that's more important in an actual, longer battle, not in such a short test.
      The regulars also didn't really win, five battles is way too little data to come to that conclusion. If you'd fight this a hundred times it should be almost equal, perhaps even with a slight advantage to the mercenaries because of their stamina trait. It's important to remember that there's still a lot of randomness and luck involved when opposing units are too similar.

    • @qualityoldgames7721
      @qualityoldgames7721  17 дней назад

      @@shrouddreamer Thanks for the comment. Valid points. Imo it was relatively even :)