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  • Опубликовано: 18 сен 2023
  • Coach Nick broke down a crazy new free throw style from South Korea, where some of the top shooters are actuall banking the ball off the backboard. Eric Fawcett and Tom Haberstroh join Coach Nick to discuss.
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Комментарии • 497

  • @HENRYPAN19
    @HENRYPAN19 11 месяцев назад +457

    I see no reasons why if a player shot below 70% shouldn't try this. Ben Simmons for one should definitely give this a shot.

    • @august6281
      @august6281 11 месяцев назад +86

      Ben reading this: _"Ben Simmons...give it a shot. Nope, i am passing up."_

    • @lucasanfilippo5370
      @lucasanfilippo5370 11 месяцев назад +11

      He should try Granny style..

    • @danielgibhardt3115
      @danielgibhardt3115 11 месяцев назад +8

      He can give it a shot, but I think he will miss it

    • @dipper5835
      @dipper5835 11 месяцев назад +11

      Difference is that this only works if you can already aim the ball straight but struggle finding the right power to get it in the hoop. Simmon on the other hand just can't shoot straight. It doesn't help that his elbow is bent like kenny knees when he shoots

    • @robert2690
      @robert2690 11 месяцев назад +5

      @@dipper5835
      What power? If you hit the white line, it will go in.
      If I throw it like a football and throw it very hard at the white line, it will go in.
      It’s not that hard

  • @RKWDBMX
    @RKWDBMX 11 месяцев назад +429

    So many bigs could possibly save their careers if they start practicing this technique

    • @metsrus
      @metsrus 10 месяцев назад +13

      it would've help shaq for sure, who had much power behind his shots

    • @gordonlove5121
      @gordonlove5121 10 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@metsrusthis is such a strange comment. Shaq had very good footwork, he was deceptively quick and one of the softest touches around the basket. Had Shaq been 6 inches shorter and 60lbs lighter, he still is a top 50 all time guy. I really dislike the misinformation about Shaq. He wasn't only big. Plenty of big guys went against Shaq and looked like fools. Every team drafted 1 or 2 guys to just foul Shaq and put a big body on him during his era. Maybe it's his free throw shooting or maybe it's Kobe saying Shaq would be the GOAT with Kobes work ethic. Idk what it is, but Shaq was incredibly talented as well as big. There guys as big as him guarding him and those guys were ONLY drafted to try to slow him down. None of them could, because Shaq was talented and big, they were just big.

    • @metsrus
      @metsrus 10 месяцев назад +48

      @@gordonlove5121 not sure why you felt the need to go to on this entire lecture. I've watched basketball since the 90s and know how great and dominant shaq was. But this is about his free throw shooting and you have to admit it was awful. the ball is like a grapefruit in his hand, he needed to shoot the ball differently whether underhanded or banking it. shooting the normal way like everyone else never worked for him, a career free throw percentage of 52.7% is proof.

    • @lukamagicgod
      @lukamagicgod 9 месяцев назад

      Lol nonsense

    • @ILoveGreatThings
      @ILoveGreatThings 9 месяцев назад

      lol yes Shaq would have benefited from this. Big men have so much more leverage and power. And a basketball looks like a grapefruit in Shaqs hands. Use the backboard!

  • @edshemp
    @edshemp 11 месяцев назад +140

    I did that in the 90's. When I was a teenager, I trained as center before going to guard. I was so used to banking under the rim that I got used to aiming at the board instead of the rim and was never able to change. My coach always complained about me banking EVERY shot. 3pt, free throws... everything 🤣. Not very hard to generate the energy if you get used to it, I was 15 at the time.

    • @R3ach4DaStarz
      @R3ach4DaStarz 11 месяцев назад +32

      The bank open even on Sundays geeezz

    • @grimgamer24
      @grimgamer24 11 месяцев назад +22

      Mr. Fundamentals

    • @fobinc
      @fobinc 10 месяцев назад +7

      Adam Sandler shoots that way too lol.

    • @BxIowaIrelandSwAg
      @BxIowaIrelandSwAg 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@fobinc Adam Sandler doesn't try to bank in 3s lol

    • @fobinc
      @fobinc 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@BxIowaIrelandSwAg he doesn't try, he does it.

  • @kjskjs52
    @kjskjs52 11 месяцев назад +134

    Haha as a South Korean subscriber I was amazed to see Korean basketball mentioned on your channel 😂. How this so called 'back board free throw' started is unclear but it's told that one of the old school top shooter started this (probably more than 20 years ago) and suddenly it slowly started to spread out. But some of the Ex-Korean pro basketball players recently posted on their youtube channel that looking back this wasn't that good, because free throw is usually a good chance to find your shooting rhythm and touch during game. But I guess bigs who don't have to shoot jump shots can still try this method if anything isn't working. 😆

    • @smoovemoves5788
      @smoovemoves5788 10 месяцев назад +9

      한국인 구독자가 또 있었군요😮

    • @user-nv1gm2zj7y
      @user-nv1gm2zj7y 10 месяцев назад +6

      yes its not for shooters. its better for those who have lower percentage shooters. but still you need a good release cause youd just hit the back board and send it back to you if you didnt have a touch.

    • @DW-op7ly
      @DW-op7ly 9 месяцев назад

      Problem is bigs
      Should be putting the ball off the backbords every chance they get
      Especially when getting physical play on them

    • @yell0wberry
      @yell0wberry 8 месяцев назад

      Korean baseball, Korean basketball, I can’t wait till those guys start playing American football

  • @3nim3nimabl3
    @3nim3nimabl3 11 месяцев назад +93

    If it works for the player, it could work virtually anywhere, its a free throw😂

    • @michaelhaydenbell
      @michaelhaydenbell 11 месяцев назад +3

      Where else do free throws happen when you say "virtually anywhere"?? Lol what?

    • @ballinboxer3676
      @ballinboxer3676 11 месяцев назад +17

      @@michaelhaydenbellhe means in any other league you dinggo

    • @mikokb
      @mikokb 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@michaelhaydenbellit was direct response to the title of the video
      "Can This CRAZY Free Throw Work In The NBA?!?"
      > If it works for the player, it could work virtually anywhere, its a free throw😂
      anywhere = any non-NBA basketball league

    • @Bojeezy
      @Bojeezy 10 месяцев назад +2

      Virtually?! You can even make a free throw in VR? 😂

    • @ballinboxer3676
      @ballinboxer3676 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@Bojeezy virtually means nearly or almost. Which is why virtual reality means “almost reality”

  • @deiondre0
    @deiondre0 11 месяцев назад +90

    Reminds me of Dwight Howard deciding to just shoot further away from the free throw line. Whatever works I guess

    • @dennisddt1146
      @dennisddt1146 9 месяцев назад +3

      Still don't understand why more players don't do that. Yes it's more distance, but if you have to hold back with the power to the point of it being a negative to your form, experiment with it.

    • @HiAxl
      @HiAxl 8 месяцев назад

      Yeah it’s pretty much the same concept.

    • @stevejerbs9077
      @stevejerbs9077 4 месяца назад

      remember baron davis? he wasnt a "big man" ho couldnt shoot fts. but he chose to shoot from the middle of the semihemisphere on the ft area. like 2 or so feet behind "the line" he still shot over 80. point i take away is shoot it how you like. and if you are stong as all hell, fts, the touch, maybe not be applicable. but ive seen the worst player on my hs team regularl bank in 3s. whatever works right. they dont ask ho, they ask how many!

  • @rudyardganuelas6254
    @rudyardganuelas6254 11 месяцев назад +160

    Tim Duncan approves of this technique

    • @ZSleepingDragonZ
      @ZSleepingDragonZ 9 месяцев назад +3

      But even he didn't bank his foul shots, and his career FT% is only 70%.

    • @user-hv7cj3yb7u
      @user-hv7cj3yb7u 9 месяцев назад +1

      who is tim duncan

    • @marcusneiman2168
      @marcusneiman2168 9 месяцев назад

      @@user-hv7cj3yb7u the greatest center ever..or at least Top 5 in NBA

    • @Andre-Nader
      @Andre-Nader 9 месяцев назад

      @@user-hv7cj3yb7ushut your mouth.

    • @flack2998
      @flack2998 9 месяцев назад

      @@user-hv7cj3yb7ui will kms if ur serious

  • @PrinceSamurai45
    @PrinceSamurai45 10 месяцев назад +16

    I used to practice bank shot free throws. It helped me learn to shoot the ball straighter. Aiming at a specific point on the backboard can be easier than negotiating the depth control needed for regular shots when you are learning.

    • @smittywerbenjagermanjensen320
      @smittywerbenjagermanjensen320 10 месяцев назад

      My shots are usually lined up right, but end up bouncing off where the rim connects to the backboard

  • @taiwanthebest
    @taiwanthebest 11 месяцев назад +24

    Great analysis. For people shooting around 50%, and have the strength. I really dont see how there is anything to lose for them to try... Even if they can get to 60 or 65%, its a W

  • @Devastish
    @Devastish 11 месяцев назад +32

    Short answer: yes. Anything that can improve shooting percentage can translate to the NBA. While other skills and shots have to take other variables into consideration (ie. distance from the basket, position of the defender, etc) free throws are exactly the same, every time.
    The only reason I would say you shouldn't is if the player is a jumpshooter, and maintaining consistency between their shooting form and aim is important. However, for someone like Steven Adams, whose only shots are less than 5 feet from the rim, anything to improve his free throw percentage makes perfect sense.

    • @babyboomer9560
      @babyboomer9560 9 месяцев назад

      I’m reminded of hal greer. He was so much more comfortable shooting a jump shot vs a free throw that towards the end of his career he would shoot free throws using a jump shot at the free throw one.

  • @SadaEKE
    @SadaEKE 10 месяцев назад +11

    I find banking much more reliable than not banking the shot because when banking you just aim the ball to a vertical point and adjust the power, kind of like playing pool; you mostly need to arrange in 2D. You need to aim a horizontal point with non-banking which is a 3D problem.

  • @willhooke
    @willhooke 11 месяцев назад +13

    Coach Nick, I changed my foul shooting technique
    Instead of taking from my waste (like a jump shot)
    I have the ball all ready out and at chest height
    The reduction in movement from there has changed my shooting from about 60% to 80%
    My team mates have noticed the big improvement 💯

  • @waynewells3297
    @waynewells3297 9 месяцев назад +4

    I think I figured out the physics. A typical free throw technique doesn’t allow you to see the farthest horizontal point in the (relatively) flat arc of the trajectory. They instinctively know where it is, but they can’t SEE it. The bank-in method allows a bad free throw shooter to SEE the exact target, and all they have to do is slightly tinker with the arc. Brilliant!

  • @BlakeC27
    @BlakeC27 11 месяцев назад +8

    Whatever works for you. If that's banking it in or underhand like Rick Barry. Would you rather have 1 point on the scoreboard or style points? There was a basket stanchion in the stadium where I grew up in New Zealand that was like a True Bounce backboard. The ball would die once it hit the board and would fall in. It got so well known that visiting teams would bank in free throws.

    • @1237barca
      @1237barca 5 месяцев назад

      Physics and biomechanics both point to underhand being a huge advantage. Basketball is a sport for genetic freaks so looking cool ends up mattering more.

  • @TheGbelcher
    @TheGbelcher 9 месяцев назад +14

    This next decade of basketball is going to be so fun to watch.
    When different cultures adopt a new sport they see every problem with fresh eyes and a fresh perspective.
    Coaches overseas didn’t understand why big men couldn’t handle the ball and shoot from outside.
    In baseball, I give the Japanese leagues a ton of credit for the amount of movement modern pitchers put on the ball.
    This is so interesting to watch.

  • @tankeater
    @tankeater 9 месяцев назад +2

    As a child in the early 90s... Thats how I was tought to shoot free throws. I stopped once I could arch the ball more, but, it definitely works!

  • @jokurino
    @jokurino 9 месяцев назад +3

    Being a former Pro player in Japan (currently a B.League Japan Coach) and playing against KBL Teams during the preseason, this is VERY REAL
    Also, until about 2010, there were still Japanese players shooting middle dribble jumpers off the backboard.

  • @carloscostajr5326
    @carloscostajr5326 11 месяцев назад +18

    I remember watching Oscar Schmidt do this in a match. It was an exhibition game and they lowered the height of the rim to generate more dunks. However, Oscar, who had around 90% FT percentage, was unable to hit his first FT, so he switched to this strategy and didn't miss any FT. For those who don't know, Oscar is the highest scorer in world basketball with almost 50 thousand points and was Kobe Bryant's idol

    • @PetrodollarDealEndedSoWakeUp
      @PetrodollarDealEndedSoWakeUp 11 месяцев назад +4

      He was ONE of Kobe’s idols. MJ was NUMBER ONE. The ultimate. Hence, eerily reminiscent play styles. Internationally, I also loved Oscar Schmidt and Arvydas Sabonis, who should’ve came to the NBA much earlier.

    • @garysalazar5279
      @garysalazar5279 10 месяцев назад

      way to go to make the correction! thank you for educating us all!

    • @carloscostajr5326
      @carloscostajr5326 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@PetrodollarDealEndedSoWakeUp Yes true. Oscar was a childhood idol in Italy and yes Jordan is the main idol. Kobe in an interview in Brazil stated that she used something from Oscar, about leaving the marking and shooting 3pts.

  • @gfrylives
    @gfrylives 9 месяцев назад +2

    It looks like the backspin softens the shot and with softer shot it doesn't bounce away from the target as hard. And the bank allows for a flatter shot. This in turns lets you focus on just being straight and not worry about arc

    • @rossgooding7423
      @rossgooding7423 9 месяцев назад

      Yes. A lower arc shot is also easier for certain shooters, and those lacking strength or touch-so the board interacts with the ball spin to their benefit.

  • @Kuroganemk2
    @Kuroganemk2 10 месяцев назад +18

    Shaq needed this. Feels like a big man would need to control their strength less with a bank shot as they can throw it a bit higher and stronger and it could help people that lack that softer touch.

    • @OwenRona
      @OwenRona 10 месяцев назад

      He sure did. Except Shaq argued that he would rather score zero FT points than not hit anything but net.
      Unfortunately for him, he hit everything but made the free basket almost every time.

    • @MrReymoclif714
      @MrReymoclif714 9 месяцев назад

      I was thinking about when would Shaq be drawn into this?

    • @blantant
      @blantant 8 месяцев назад

      Exactly. Imagine an NBA where Shaq learned to bank in 80%! He would be even more unstoppable

  • @drewainge1059
    @drewainge1059 10 месяцев назад +3

    Im not good in basketball but im pretty good in billiards. I find a bank shot is easier and more accurate for whatever reason. I tend to miss more if it's not a bank shot. Not sure if that is comparable to a basketball free throw

  • @GreenJeepAdventures
    @GreenJeepAdventures 11 месяцев назад +4

    Question coach. What happened to the finger roll? We often remember Jordan as a dunker, but so many of his shots near the rim were short little shots. It looked like he didn't need to use 100% energy all the time, and these may have been away to conserve it.

    • @bballbreakdown
      @bballbreakdown  11 месяцев назад +2

      Hmm - I feel like we still see a lot of finger roll finishes at the basket...??

  • @YouCallThataKnife253
    @YouCallThataKnife253 11 месяцев назад +7

    Funny enough, I recall learning to shoot this way in elementary school

  • @YunisRajab
    @YunisRajab 11 месяцев назад +3

    In unregulated courts with a shorter free throw line I practice from way behind the line. Not sure why everyone has to be right up against the line if they're too strong

  • @spiritbreakermlbb
    @spiritbreakermlbb 11 месяцев назад +10

    This can also increase their power shooting 3 pointers as usual and not kinda adjust when shooting free throw. This also revolutionize the meta of shooting 3s.

  • @legendlee1576
    @legendlee1576 11 месяцев назад +1

    I’ve been watching your channel since you had 3k subs man. I can’t wait until you’re fully recognized by the entire basketball community bc they’re missing out for sure

  • @wulver810
    @wulver810 9 месяцев назад +2

    My grandpa played in the 1940s high school basketball and would shoot with both hands with a back spin off the board, never missed even as a 70 year old.

  • @Robin_Hood381
    @Robin_Hood381 11 месяцев назад +8

    I think the bank technique would be more one that is good for bigs. This actually reminds me of Shaq's FT shooting situation. I think he had too much baseline power and his hands were too big. If you look at his shooting, he literally could not finesse the ball enough to get a clean, soft arcing shot to go into the rim. He would literally shoot line drive clankers most of the time. Why not use that to his advantage and use the backboard instead?

    • @enterpassword3313
      @enterpassword3313 10 месяцев назад +4

      He didnt practice, that was the real problem, he never developed a shooting form

    • @rossgooding7423
      @rossgooding7423 9 месяцев назад

      Yes, exactly!

  • @pfwag
    @pfwag 10 месяцев назад +1

    Without doing the calculations, I'll guess the geometry of the ball getting into the basket is better too. Probably after the bounce off the backboard, the ball losses some energy so it's moving slower too which should also help.

  • @bryanbisimotopinas345
    @bryanbisimotopinas345 10 месяцев назад +1

    It gives a visible target, helps depth perception

  • @BoltarThePirate
    @BoltarThePirate 9 месяцев назад +3

    Damn that's a great video!
    Love international game analysis!
    Imagine that for Shaq or Wilt!

  • @Markgraf_ON
    @Markgraf_ON 6 месяцев назад

    in korea, we learn backboard shot as basic method from school. it's been 15 years since i graduated, so it's a method with long history.
    Actually surprised that NBA players didn't know about it

  • @fonzworthbentley7455
    @fonzworthbentley7455 8 месяцев назад +1

    I almost exclusively banked free throws throughout high school and college. I've always believed that the box is there for a reason. The amount of spin you put on the ball makes a difference

  • @ARIZJOE
    @ARIZJOE 8 месяцев назад

    Taken aback by a story in the NY Times. The backboard actually gets the ball softer to the rim, and raises FT % markedly. But we were always taught to look at the front of the rim, to follow through, a spin of the wrist, a nice arc, and get the ball softly to the cylinder. If it did not swish, then if lucky you had a shooter's touch to score. Orthodoxy in many cases is not reality. The backboard technique works. But we must use science to verify percentages in FTs (and everything else in this world). My niece is Korean. I love Korean BBQ. I love Korea for many reasons. A great people.

  • @bball3048mm
    @bball3048mm 4 месяца назад +1

    I went a step (or rather 2 steps) further. I decided it's a good idea to shoot underhanded (granny) and bank your free throws.

  • @fredlin6303
    @fredlin6303 10 месяцев назад +1

    I learned how to shoot basketball using the backboard, including free throws. My reasoning is that I can see the top box line and visually, I have a reference to aim for. A swish shot needs a lot more mental spatial manipulation and it wasn't easy for me. I know coaches are big on muscle memory, etc. I just think that backboard usage is really underrated and may help more people who are visually dependent to better their mid-range shots and free throws.

    • @rossgooding7423
      @rossgooding7423 9 месяцев назад

      Love this comment as there is much about the spatial element that could be explored. Surely when a player is shooting a runner or floater their natural body drift introduces additional complexity into spatial calculation-where the larger and more visible backboard box presents easier or more visually accessible target for the shooter’s aim. Additionally the need for either a quick release, or extra-arc-to avert a pursuing defender make the spatial calculation preference the backboard as it’s simply bigger and more visible. Thoughts?

  • @petertewinkle9530
    @petertewinkle9530 11 месяцев назад +1

    Tim Duncan is from the US Virgin Islands.

  • @bigbadspikey
    @bigbadspikey 9 месяцев назад

    I shoot FT like that. Even jump shots, I'm more accurate when I bank my shots compared to normal shots. When I was a kid I tried changing my shot to a normal one because all my friends don't bank their shots and I think it's more cooler and my friends says that bank shots are just lucky bounces, but when that didn't work for me, I just stuck with banking most of my shots even if it's not that cool. At least it's effective.
    If you wanna try bank shots and make it your primary shot, I suggest you play billiards, pool or snooker, it'll help or somewhat train your brain to calculate banking angles, since those games are all about angles and banking.

  • @FLAman-jq6rx
    @FLAman-jq6rx 11 месяцев назад +1

    I remember at the park one time I decided to try this I hit like 50 or 60 in a row never ever do that if not trying to think it I think the best I can do with like 10 and that was a struggle

  • @pltatman1
    @pltatman1 8 месяцев назад

    I'd be curious to see how effective an "aimed" banked free throw could be--minimal backspin, treating the basketball like a dart. You'd actually have something tangible to aim at, so you could systematically select a target on the backboard which would provide the optimal angle.

  • @jonathanrichter4256
    @jonathanrichter4256 8 месяцев назад

    This is fascinating. You go from aiming for a target you cannot see - the horizontal rim that is above your head - to aiming for something you can easily see - the square on the backboard behind the rim. It almost feels like a darts throw.

  • @rossgooding7423
    @rossgooding7423 9 месяцев назад

    How much forgiveness of error does the bounce off the backboard help, or change? For ANY banked shot? Surely the variance in accuracy from a live-game environment (not a FT where there is no defensive pressure) must be considered.

  • @thehumburger6009
    @thehumburger6009 10 месяцев назад +2

    It seems like the bank shot relies less on touch than the traditional free throw and puts more emphasis on just aim (i.e. hitting a certain area on the backboard). I'd think it'd be worth trying for anyone with poor shooting touch.

    • @rossgooding7423
      @rossgooding7423 9 месяцев назад

      Yes! There is a huge variance is players “touch” and in their ability to learn touch. The backboard can be somewhat on an equalizer and help lower-touch shooters!

  • @eyim99
    @eyim99 10 месяцев назад

    Coach Nick, I love the analysis breakdown, but...
    You have only mentioned about posture form and angle of arch. As a league bowling player, I would have love to see if there was a difference in revolutions, and ball of speed to fully cement your argument of the possible micro adjustment that these players are doing. As a bowler, we do micro adjustment with speed/revs/axis rotation/entrance angle throughout the lane conditions.
    But just like in bowling, a strike is a strike and a bucket is bucket, no matter how you do it.

  • @acctsys
    @acctsys 10 месяцев назад

    Aim for a set point below the top line of the box, and put a backspin. The visual feedback should help improve control when power is a given.

  • @woutakasinistra
    @woutakasinistra 10 месяцев назад

    I always thought that Dwight Howard and DeAndre Jordan should've switched to this years ago.
    Both were so strong and had a pretty good form and soft realese for a big man. And both were more worried about not shooting it too strong instead of trying to just make it.
    One thing for a big man when trying to bank is, is you have to have some kind of soft wrist / realese. Shaq has had broken wrists, he often talked about, but even he would've had more chance with banking, sinced his flat shots could just 'die' on the backboard, while it was almost impossible with his flat free throws that it would hit backrim and drop through.
    So I love how you pointed out that the arc can be a bit lower and also a bankshot needs more power.
    With, for almost all big men, is a problem with traditional free throws; they don't get enough arc and haven't got a soft release 'cause they're too strong.

  • @hunterflyden236
    @hunterflyden236 9 месяцев назад

    I just went and saw a game here in Japan against S. Korea and a player was doing this and I was wondering why but I am just seeing your video today so now it makes sense.

  • @rossiricky71
    @rossiricky71 Месяц назад

    My U16 amateur team here in Italy has a terrible 30% at freeshots and i m seriously thinking about introducing this tecnique next year...it will make sense in this case and reaching at least 50% would make a huge change

  • @augustgreig9420
    @augustgreig9420 9 месяцев назад +2

    The main problem is, like the granny shot, the bank shot is frowned upon and made fun of from the earliest days of pick up basketball with elementary school kids. It's often seen as unskilled, lucky, or even girly, and thus players who may develop this shot naturally are discouraged from practicing it from day one. Even at the professional level, the stigma still stands, as I've heard big men say that they are much more accurate with the granny shot or the bank shot, but even then, they are still ridiculed by their own teammates in practice, because it doesn't look "cool".
    It's totally absurd that grown men let their 4th grade students act like this, but even worse that grown men millionaires in the NBA act like this, even toward their own teammates. All it does is hurt the game, and perpetuate a culture where flashy, selfish, losing basketball is praised over less glamorous fundamentals, teamwork, rebounding, passing, and defense that wins championships. I don't think you see anything like this in any other sport.

  • @aaronjohnson6622
    @aaronjohnson6622 10 месяцев назад +1

    I like your videos that are about innovations. I'm going to consider teaching bank free throws when I coach. Nick van exel comes to mind when thinking about out of the norm free throws. How about shooting free throws from the left or right side as opposed to the middle? It could work for some

  • @chihchang1139
    @chihchang1139 11 месяцев назад +1

    it's not complicated. There is literally a square target and there is a large range of power that can work for a straight bank shot because the ball is bouncing towards the player after the bank, therefore, if it's too much power, the rim can catch the extra force, too little power, and the backboard will cause extra bounce (think Jokic shots). The only thing player is thinking is to keep it straight. Trying to swish through the net is a far more difficult shot, but in the long run, helps with the rest of your shooting. The bank shot is hard for general shooting is because, though it is more forgiving in the power side, you're adding an extra bank angle calculation to your shot which fucks with your "keep it straight" posture and makes your shooting mechanic much more difficult especially in motion.

    • @rossgooding7423
      @rossgooding7423 9 месяцев назад

      Respectfully disagree. Adding the imprecision of players motion makes the larger square box a helpful visual aid. Also the need for a quicker shot or lower arcing high-spin shot favors the backboard in my experience. It’s probably why we are taught to shoot layups off the backboard.

  • @Jackson33miller
    @Jackson33miller 11 месяцев назад

    5:20 shout out Mansfield MA (team in white) playing against Taunton

  • @HiAxl
    @HiAxl 8 месяцев назад

    Certain heights have a harder tube shooting from that distance because it’s kinda difficult to get the right arc and touch when they are practically at eye level with the rim. So to speak.

  • @Bojeezy
    @Bojeezy 10 месяцев назад +1

    I know it is not the most natural looking shot but if it goes in, it goes in.
    We were shooting free throws for the next game and I accidentally banked it in. Got some comments but I got to play the next game even though we lost.

  • @davidhirschhorn2960
    @davidhirschhorn2960 8 месяцев назад

    To compare using the backboard vs straight in, you need a robot to shoot accurately, with measured speed, angle, and backspin, and then see if the backboard gives you a larger range of these speed factors that it still result in made shots.

  • @Wombat52
    @Wombat52 9 месяцев назад

    Reporting this like it’s some new crazy way to shoot free throws. Best free throw shooter on my high school team shot this same way … back in 1974-75.

  • @eridanaeon
    @eridanaeon 10 месяцев назад

    I switched to bank shot too. reason.... coordinates... board will be X-Y plane, rim is X-Z plane. With bank shot you just worry about X-Y, which is just the board. Increase in power to generate is minimal

  • @don7294
    @don7294 9 месяцев назад +1

    I coached a girls basketball team back in the 80's and taught them to use the backboard for every freethrow and shots from the paint. The girls shot 80% from the freethrow line and went undefeated. You don't have to be extra strong.

  • @jjgg8640
    @jjgg8640 8 месяцев назад

    In korea, it is very common. Even in school, teacher teachs like this. On the contrary, I was surprised we only do this in common.

  • @ESKMOfficial
    @ESKMOfficial 9 месяцев назад

    Is there anything to not just stronger, but taller players having a more advantageous angle when shooting a bank free throw in respect to getting it to be on the way down when it contacts the backboard?
    They can inherently shoot a lower arcing free throw than me as a shorter person having to have a higher arc just to get it over the rim in the first place.

  • @biltazar379
    @biltazar379 8 месяцев назад

    Everyone is aware of Tim Duncan’s 45° bank shots, but before him I remember Rudy Tomjanovich shooting some of the hardest impact bank shots that I have even seen go in. I also recall seeing him bank the ball on foul shots, but I am not sure if he did it that way over larger chunks of career.

  • @gordonlove5121
    @gordonlove5121 10 месяцев назад

    This is my uncle. We used to play basketball and im about 8 inches taller than him and 20 years younger. At my absolute best, i could stop him maybe 1 out of 10 times. He had this knack for angles and using his body to negate that size difference. I was taller, athletic, stronger and honestly had a much better lateral quickness than he did. But still, he gound openings and angles and almost always used glass. He grew up with 4 brothers, and they played bully ball. One was a body builder, power lifter and arm wrestling champion, the others were just pure animals. He just grew up with contact and bully ball. I learned so much from him. His ability to find those angles and change speeds and use my height against me was just humbling. I could beat him 1 on 1 at my best, but he was 45 and i was 22. Bank shots and fundamentals (Tim Duncan) are underrated. It doesnt look good, but it's effective.

  • @BravoDeus
    @BravoDeus 8 месяцев назад

    I figured this out in 2012 but the trick is you must shoot it soft enough so it can bounce once or multiple times and still go in the basket.

  • @Drift4Drifters
    @Drift4Drifters 8 месяцев назад

    When i was teenager, i had a coach that demanded everyone to shoot using the glass and not only FT. He said that direct shots had more ball speed, decreasing the chance of scoring. Also, the board visual reference is better to feel the real distance of the rim. Still, i never used, cose nothing but net is always more cool.

  • @daanno2
    @daanno2 9 месяцев назад

    it's not just the power generation - taller players are shooting from a higher set point, which means less force required. shorter players may find it uncomfortable to generate enough force required to hit backboard without compromising accuracy to some degree.
    one other potential benefit from backboard FTs is that misses are probably more likely to be rebounded by your own team.

  • @Myiic
    @Myiic 11 месяцев назад +1

    Very interesting video, definitely be thinking a lot more about my free throws lol

  • @TheGbelcher
    @TheGbelcher 9 месяцев назад

    1:42 I like Coach’s use of AI to ensure he pronounced the players name correctly. I respect that.

  • @fobinc
    @fobinc 10 месяцев назад

    It may be me, but when I shoot via the backboard I needed less ball spin and the ball goes in much more frequently. If I only aim to shoot without hitting anything there's too much energy transfer and ball bounces out easier.

  • @gabrielsanchez5553
    @gabrielsanchez5553 8 месяцев назад

    What about the spin? Its like playing at the arcade. The trick is one hand shot with a spin towards you and hitting a little harder than normal the center or close to the center of the square. 😂 It increases the speed and the shot made percentage.

  • @bagavondo2477
    @bagavondo2477 11 месяцев назад

    i played with a guy who was a backboard specialst. not fast, not tall, not shifty nor crafty but left,right,centre, didnt matter to him. he had a higher release point than usual, faster trigger, and that was all he got offensivly. but did he make it work!

  • @JonathanXue
    @JonathanXue 9 месяцев назад

    actually do see a difference in the mechanics, the first and second player you showed both had better follow through with their fingers, with the regular shot ending in more of an open hand and the banked having a follow thru that ends with fingers pointing downed, more complete of a follow through

  • @beckembrown7002
    @beckembrown7002 10 месяцев назад

    Love how we are still discovering new ways to improve fundamental bball skills!

    • @bballbreakdown
      @bballbreakdown  10 месяцев назад

      Crazy that there are still new things out there!!

  • @zyxwut321
    @zyxwut321 10 месяцев назад +1

    Imagine Shaq and Wilt using this technique during their careers. They instantly add more points and possibly championships to their already legendary careers. It would also eliminate any "hack-a-(fill in the blanks)" towards the end of games.

  • @porterwake3898
    @porterwake3898 8 месяцев назад

    You have to practice something over and over again to do it right. Bank FT, swish FT, granny shot FT. If you practice it, you will be GOOD at it.

  • @bilgewaterblues5370
    @bilgewaterblues5370 11 месяцев назад

    Oh shit, that's background music is from the Lewis & Clark vs Bill & Ted ERB!
    I was not expecting to hear it here, but a welcome surprise nonetheless!

    • @bballbreakdown
      @bballbreakdown  11 месяцев назад

      lol - I had no idea but LET'S GO!

  • @GreenJeepAdventures
    @GreenJeepAdventures 11 месяцев назад +2

    So, you are telling me Shaq could have been a 90% free thrower if he had switched? No, you are not telling me that, but it would have fun to imagine.

    • @abouttime2569
      @abouttime2569 11 месяцев назад +5

      I don't think any method would have saved Shaq's free throws. He was just born to be that way.

  • @kray97
    @kray97 10 месяцев назад

    You can get good at any shot you practice. If banking it works for you - use that. You can also practice swishing it too. One is not harder than the other, hence there is no advantage to banking it. It's all about practice, routine and confidence.

  • @jamesbrads4414
    @jamesbrads4414 10 месяцев назад

    Completely unrelated to basketball but I'm pretty sure that the beat that comes in around 30 seconds in is the same beat from the Lewis and Clark Epic Rap Battles of history featuring Rhett and Link.
    Epic crossover. Expect nothing less from Coach.

  • @johnr5252
    @johnr5252 8 месяцев назад

    Yes, it will work. Plus there’s an advantage when you miss as your team has a better chance of getting the rebound.

  • @davidaustin6962
    @davidaustin6962 9 месяцев назад

    Works best for those with less depth perception... I've often wondered if eye spacing has something to do this. His eyes seem closer than most players.

  • @atingsipnayin5518
    @atingsipnayin5518 10 месяцев назад +1

    Love your platform coach not just focusing on America also all over the 🌎 basketball. Have a question do you think Team USA will be a threat in Olympic again with the world catching up

    • @Cooe.
      @Cooe. 9 месяцев назад

      The world really isn't catching up (at least at any noticably different pace than usual). That narrative is mostly horseshit statistically. The problem with Team USA is that basically NONE of America's best players want ANYTHING to do with the national team, and thus the rosters for like 10+ years now have been pretty consistently trash. 🤷 Compare that to country's in Europe or Asia where playing for the national team is the greatest honor imaginable for the nation's very best players, unlike America's best who really couldn't give less of a flying shit about international play.

  • @gdmclean
    @gdmclean 9 месяцев назад

    I’ve been saying this for years. All big centres that struggle with free throws should have had a trainer put a piece of tape around on the backboard exactly in line with the middle of the hoop and get the big guys to aim for it. Flick the wrist and have that shot spin down and in.

  • @Boomslang55
    @Boomslang55 10 месяцев назад

    Our state championship team all shot bank shot free throws 1969-1970 season. Probably because rebounds came out farther and we had a pretty tall team. Our coach passed away last year. I'll ask his son, if I can find him online and see if he remembers why exactly?

  • @djdoc06
    @djdoc06 10 месяцев назад

    It’s the best popashot technique. It should be a sound technique for free throws, especially for somebody who has less control at low velocities, and does better shooting it harder.
    If you’re so big and have hands so big that the basketball feels like a popashot ball (looking at you, Shaq and Wilt), then maybe it makes more sense.
    Percentages don’t lie.

  • @Maxville2
    @Maxville2 11 месяцев назад +1

    I think that this looks like a solid method for big men who struggle with free-throws

  • @dontbedummy8101
    @dontbedummy8101 8 месяцев назад

    Big men should definitely look into this technique! The problem with big men is their height makes it hard to generate a good arc at free throw line. On solution is Rick-Barry the shot and you can get a good arc, but most players are too proud to do this, so bank shot is definitely something to try

  • @tyroneshoelace4872
    @tyroneshoelace4872 9 месяцев назад

    So the takeaway is that it may or may not help. Fascinating! LOL

  • @edwardodizon4789
    @edwardodizon4789 9 месяцев назад

    Many shooters can do that but the most interesting i think is mastering bank shot 3's.

  • @vinniechan
    @vinniechan 10 месяцев назад

    Banking for a free throw is actually quite counter intuitive as you need to throw a fair bit harder
    But the good thing is you don't need to worry about the power

  • @myChannel40629
    @myChannel40629 11 месяцев назад

    Seeing the arc above the player was a very cool visual to see

    • @bballbreakdown
      @bballbreakdown  11 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks! We need to more clearly define what we mean by arc - is it the exit angle or the entrance angle

  • @bernardsantos210
    @bernardsantos210 11 месяцев назад

    1:44 You missed the follow-thru coach.
    He changed his follow-thru duration by quite a good chunk of seconds, which if you're a shooter, you know helps quite a bit.

    • @bballbreakdown
      @bballbreakdown  11 месяцев назад +1

      I studied whether he pulled his arms down early on just the regular FTs but then I saw a number of banked FTs where he did the same so I didn't feel like it was a change

  • @BBall0027
    @BBall0027 9 месяцев назад

    Honestly, it's a good way to improve free-throw shooting, especially for guys who would rather shoot 50% than underhand.

  • @jeffthebracketman
    @jeffthebracketman 9 месяцев назад

    The explanation is simple. Draw a circle on a piece of paper and estimate the area inside. Now slowly tilt the paper away from you so that it becomes an ellipse. The more you tilt the paper, the more you reduce the area on the inside. By using a higher arc and banking the free-throw off of the backboard, the shooter is effectively maximizing the accessible area inside the rim for the ball to go through.

  • @rossgooding7423
    @rossgooding7423 9 месяцев назад

    By the same implicit logic I think players should try banking in floaters, as the shot involves the natural imprecision of their body drift when shooting. Using the board I think helps mitigate that and leads to potentially better results.

  • @bobheyotue9850
    @bobheyotue9850 10 месяцев назад

    I remember my school broke one of the hoops and had to replace the boards with these before our big rivalry game . Long story short we one the game but the fans were out in the parking lot fighting because they thought we did it on purpose 😂.

  • @dash4800
    @dash4800 9 месяцев назад

    Its alao important to note that most nba players are not small and weak and could probably bank a 3pt shot in without jumping with little difficulty. The perspective of a 6-8 to 7 ft guy is completely different than ours. To them shooting a free throw is like when we are trying to shoot on our kids hoop hanging on their door.

  • @mJlReplicanT001
    @mJlReplicanT001 9 месяцев назад

    Is the square was what you aim for .. .
    Shooting a swish is muscle memory in my opinion and more pressure. Use the back board it’s basic fundamentals basketball (The Joker)

  • @takezomiyamoto1390
    @takezomiyamoto1390 8 месяцев назад

    when I was a kid, in my first baskeball team here in Europe, they would encourage us to hit the backboard in free throws, which leads to believe that this was kind of a regular technique even before my time.

  • @bpdmf2798
    @bpdmf2798 8 месяцев назад

    What effect would a bank free throw have on an actually good shooter when going back to shooting in game? They don't get those extra free throws to get warmed up and in rhythm.

  • @Thatboygtmike
    @Thatboygtmike 11 месяцев назад +1

    In NYC we do this in all summer tournaments lol it’s just tough outside

    • @bballbreakdown
      @bballbreakdown  11 месяцев назад +1

      is that right??

    • @willhooke
      @willhooke 11 месяцев назад

      Windy?

    • @Thatboygtmike
      @Thatboygtmike 11 месяцев назад

      yes sirr, check out a West 4th Pro am game one summer and your bound to see it. It's because of the dead backboard... never knew the science behind it until you explained it though@@bballbreakdown