Hi Anthony - Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment on this video. Glad you found the spreadsheet useful. If you’ve not already, please do like this video and stay tuned for some more content 🙂
Very helpful and informative videos. I've taken the plunge, panels & battery being fitted in a couple of days, and your referal code to Octopus worked a treat. Thanks
Hi James thanks for taking the time to watch and comment on the video. Exciting times and thanks for using the code - helps keep the channel going 🙏🏽 Do let me know when it goes through and I can pass on the extra £20 👍🏽
Having just had solar panels and batteries installed (6kw (14x 430W DMEGC Panels) Array, 2x 5kw Puredrive Batteries and 6kw Solis Inverter) and it being commissioned today I am now trying to figure out the best tariff for me. Currently loving Octopus for the 3rd year (just started) and on their Loyal Octopus Fixed tariff, but now considering moving onto either Flux or something else that would be better benefit to me with my new installation. Ive heard differing things and genuinely am stuck! I had considered Octopus Outgoing but that is - as the name suggests - a Export Tariff only :D
Hi James - Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment on this video. Exciting times! Yes you're right you'll need to find an import and export tariff that meets your household consumption and takes into account your self consumption too. I made a more recent video and more powerful spreadsheet (month by month data entry) which should be helpful for you deciding. ruclips.net/video/61w5JEY3xz0/видео.html If you’ve not already, please do like this video, stay tuned for some more content and thanks for taking the time to contribute to the discussion on this video 🙂
Hi Gary - Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment on this video. Glad you found it useful. If you’ve not already, please do like this video and stay tuned for some more content.
I will use this spreadsheet so many thanks! I think the comparison you’ve made though, to someone without solar and batteries, should be calculated using the best tariff they would use given they have no solar or batteries. Hope that makes sense as I’ve not yet started to use the spreadsheet so maybe I’m misreading how it does the comparison. PS: assuming, one M.
Hi - Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment on this video. Glad you found it useful. You're right and the electricity consumption data is PRE solar and battery installation which allows the spreadsheet to forecast the savings. Sorry if this wasn't clear, but hopefully clears things up now. In this newer video I compare tariffs and the spreadsheet has been updated. ruclips.net/video/VA1XmB7aTlA/видео.html If you’ve not already, please do like this video, stay tuned for some more content and thanks for taking the time to contribute to the discussion on this video 🙂
I believe you may have made an error in the edit. There is a cut at 05:43 where you start talking about tariff rates rather than energy usage that is indicated by the arrow on the screen.
Hi Barry - I've just re watched this and you're absolutely right - apologies that bit about rate should have been for the section below it. Thanks, Shan
Good video, I have been doing this myself this week and feel you need more detail to get a true comparison. I put in my average half hourly data for 2022 and put that against the average half hourly generation for the PV. This then shows the battery charge so when it's full and exporting. I found without an EV Flux us better, but once my EV arrives, Go is going to come out better (assuming mileage takes over 20kW per day. Next, I want to build in daily half-hour solar generation figures so I can show how summer and winter differ.
Hi - Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment on this video. Glad you found it useful. I completely agree, the more data to go with the better the information out at the end. 30 minute data would take some inputting though, but not impossible. Yes, I agree Flux is better without an EV, hence the hybrid approach works best for me. If you’ve not already, please do like this video and stay tuned for some more content.
Love the videos. I got a quote from Octopus, need to arrange a follow up call before committing but not sure what to say. Quote was 8 panels @405 w, GiV 5.2kw bat and GiV hybrid converter. I have 4 bed det house, no shading, 27m2 SW facing roof with no roof widows. My annual elect usage is around 2300kwH/yr . Should I upgrade the battery and or increase the number of solar panels etc? Thanks so much, Ian
Hi Ian - Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment on this video. Glad you found it useful an thanks for the kind words. For me I'd always say max out on the solar - it's a lot easier to retrospectively add more battery storage than it is to add more solar. In terms of how big your battery storage is I'd look at sizing it to 1.2x your peak consumption. It's well worth getting at least 3 quotes for your install if you haven't already. We used IVoltz (based in Doncaster) who cover most of the UK and this is my install ruclips.net/video/E--CeLLsF_Q/видео.html There's also a split referral code in that video description. If you’ve not already, please do like this video, stay tuned for some more content and thanks for taking the time to contribute to the discussion on this video 🙂
No worries at all Ian - let me know how it goes. Darren and his team did a great job for us and what set them apart was Darren's patience and knowledge in answering my (hundreds) of questions and tailoring the system to what I wanted rather than what they thought I should have. You'll need to quote: IVOLTZ/EVERYTHINGHOME for the split £200. All the best, Shan
Hi Jen - Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment on this video. That's correct - it takes into account your pre solar and battery data and then uses the spec of your solar kWp and battery kWh on the top right to work out the numbers.
We changed to flux a month or so ago (was on the standard variable tariff). Transfer to Octopus and Import sorted out quite quickly, now waiting for the DNO to issue an export MPAN. 😴 Been a month already but could take some time. Annoying watching all the unpaid export we generate every day, We don’t have an EV so probably will move to Octopus Cosy for the winter when our electricity demand exceeds solar generation. Just one correction, 4:20, if you have a FIT array (we do), yes you have to give up deemed export, but it is not a permanent move, you can revert back to FIT deemed export after a year. Both OfGem and my FIT payer confirmed this from the T’s & C’s. We have a much bigger 10.4kW non-FIT array so I still think it’ll be worth it though
Hi - Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment on this video. Yes, you're correct - we got two different pieces of advice two different times I enquired. After making the video and deciding to give up the deemed export payments EDF clarified the following position: 'As the rules of the FIT Scheme state you are only able to change your export option once every 12 months, should you wish to opt back in to receiving FIT export this would not be possible until after 01/04/2024. Please also be advised that as you now have a meter that can measure export, should you decide to opt back in to the FIT Scheme for export you will no longer be able to receive a deemed payment and will instead receive metered export payments. This is in line with the Feed in Tariff Ofgem Guidance.' If you’ve not already, please do like this video, stay tuned for some more content and thanks for taking the time to contribute to the discussion on this video 🙂
Yes I saw that bit in the FIT scheme rules as well, that if you have a smart meter you have to be paid for actual FIT export not deemed export. But given I've got a second non FIT array with batteries, how they'd work out the actual FIT export I don't know. Unlikely to want to go back to FIT export but I wanted to know that it's an option as Flux and other similar tariffs could change or be pulled in the future
Yup - that's exactly the same as us. 2015 FIT benefitting array and then more solar and a battery added late 2022 and as you say unlikely to ever want to go back to deemed export unless something catastrophic happens!
Great video. Flux has three rates viz:Off peak, Daytime (05.00-1600 and then 21.00-02.00 and Peak (16.0-21.00). Which figure is most suitable to use for Peak or perhaps use an average ?
Hi Kevin - Thanks for taking the time to watch, comment on this video and download the spreadsheet. Glad you found it useful. I used and would suggest using the day time rate for peak and lowest for off peak (02:00-05:00). As you say, you could always if you wanted to take an average of the day rate and 4-7pm rate. If you’ve not already, please do like this video, stay tuned for some more content and thanks for taking the time to contribute to the discussion on this video 🙂
Hi , i like there video so decided to download the spreadsheet. I inputted my data as best i could from my supplier & solar system installer and exspected a nice result regarding payback years and ROI. I ended up with negative values, I only filled in first quarter as i had my system installed in Feb. 2022, therefore the following quarters ie. Apr - Jun July -Sep Oct to Dec would not tally up as i was then on solar if you get my meaning. could you please advise as to what i am doing wrong or have i missed something , many thanks .
Thank you for downloading and supporting the channel. The consumption figures are PRE solar and battery. So if you use post figures you may end up with negative figures. If you've not already done so use the pre solar and battery consumption data you have. The other thing is inputting a realistic self consumption of solar only. If you're still struggling send me a screenshot to savemecashuk@gmail.com and I'll take a look later today 👍🏽 Thanks again, Shan
Hi Bobby - Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment on this video. You can download the spreadsheet here: www.buymeacoffee.com/EverythingHome/e/123656 If you’ve not already, please do like this video and stay tuned for some more content 🙂
Really interesting video. I wish Octopus did the work for you and advised on the best tariff I have a new solar + batteries system and an EV and PHEV to charge. At the moment I'd need to be exporting over 470kWh per month for Flux to be better than Go . I'll keep an eye on how much I export but it looks at the moment that I'm better off pumping excess into the cars and hot tank
Hi Billy - Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment on this video. Glad you found it useful. We also charge our PHEV once a day. The hot water is an interesting one which I also looked at. It makes more sense to heat my HW cylinder via gas than electricity which would otherwise be exported. ruclips.net/video/cYRGr3_-K2s/видео.html If you’ve not already, please do like this video, stay tuned for some more content and thanks for taking the time to contribute to the discussion on this video 🙂
Hi thanks for the extremely informative and succinct video. I am on Octopus Go Faster ( finishing in 7 days ), have got 2 EVs ( average miles between the 2 is somewhere around 550 miles per week ). I have also got a 10 day old solar 6.1 kw PV system with 15.6 kWh of batteries and an Eddi for the HW. In the last 7 days , I have managed to use up almost everything we generated and export nothing..so I am now confused as to what tariff to move on. Please advise. Kind regards.
Hi - Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment on this video. Glad you found it useful. I suspect you'll need to run the numbers Go Vs Flux, the spreadsheet should help infor your decision 👍🏽 If you’ve not already, please do like this video, stay tuned for some more content and thanks for taking the time to contribute to the discussion on this video 🙂
I,m new to this solar /battery parlava ! and have just started looking at my useage as of now,, I as I live alone (billy no mates) I am using less Kwh in money terms then the standing charge.. My standing charge comes to 42p perday £153 ayear.. So I am toying with switching to a No Standing charge tarffi,,, his is via a prepaid meter and a price of 58p for the first 2 kwh and a lower price after that.. I think it would work for me...any thoughts?
Hi - Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment on this video. Interesting. I've not come across a no standing charge option. I think you'd need to look at your usage numbers and then work out if it would be worth switching to the tariff you're making reference to. This should be helpful keeping track of the numbers. You'd need to add the standing charge but should be straight forward to do as an add on. www.buymeacoffee.com/EverythingHome/e/89239 If you’ve not already, please do like this video and stay tuned for some more content.
Hi Jen, It is accounted for by entering the total kWh of your battery in the top right hand corner. It assumes you charge it up off peak to full. If you’ve not already, please do like this video, stay tuned for some more content and thanks for taking the time to contribute to the discussion on this video 🙂
Should be able to just leave the export payment at 0. Will likely skew your payback/ROI. I suppose you need to use everything you produce which I suspect can be difficult.
Good video. Crumbs this is complicated. Seems the best deal might be flux for summer, Go for winter? But we have a 77kwh EV and I think I need the extended hours of lower rate to charge it ( the ev charges at 7kw with our old school car charger so would require a very sunny day to charge on solar alone!) I might stick with Intelligent Go and fixed rate for simplicity …?
Hi Karen - Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment on this video. Glad you found it useful. It's definitely complicated! It all depends on how much you need to import vs your potential export. I'm charging at night on Flux over 3 hours but you may need more depending on your mileage. Simplicity would say stick with Go or Intelligent. But, it also depends on your solar generation. Hence the spreadsheet. Best of luck 😬 If you’ve not already, please do like this video, stay tuned for some more content and thanks for taking the time to contribute to the discussion on this video
As I lack an EV already moved to Flux. For me I am exporting a portion of the battery energy each evening as that is where the earning potential is. Will have to see how it works out over the next few months.
Hi - Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment on this video. I think I would do the same if in the same position. I'm tempted by pushing some to the grid from the battery between 4-7pm - it would probably be an hours export so around 3 kWh but I'm protective of the battery. It's a great dilemma to have some good paying export options. If you’ve not already, please do like this video and stay tuned for some more content.
Hi Ian - Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment on this video. Glad you found it useful and to hear you're in the NE too. This was our install here if you've not already seen this video: ruclips.net/video/E--CeLLsF_Q/видео.html If you’ve not already, please do like this video and stay tuned for some more content.
Great, and It's working ok on my macBook without any problem. The one thing that puzzles me is, I'm currently on Octopus Go and just had Solar panels and batteries installed, I'm thinking about switching to Octopus Flux. But you have entered 4.1p in as an export but my Octopus Go doesn't have an export tariff, so do I leave that blank on the left hand side of the spreadsheet?
That's great to hear, thanks for supporting the channel. You should be able to sign up for export at 4.1p per kWh whilst on Octopus Go. Better than it going away for nothing
I got the calculator / spreadsheet today and started populating it. Unfortunately some of underlying formulas (protected on spreadsheet) .the erroneous results begin in a peak daily cost being almost £380. Did I get receive an incorrect version of the %spreadsheet?
Hi Allen, thanks for downloading the spreadsheet and supporting the channel. Yes I agree, that doesn't sound right. The version has not changed and no one else has flagged any issue up. I suspect it may be a simple data entry issue. Have you entered pence rather than pounds? If you're struggling feel free to send me an email at the channels email: savemecashuk@gmail.com And I'll take a look for you later today 👍🏽
Hi Martyn, thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. Yes it is, there's a link in the video description or I've popped it below 👇 www.buymeacoffee.com/EverythingHome/e/123656
Very informative video & I've purchased the Solar and Battery Tariff Calculator to see if it pays us to move to Flux. EDIT.. I can't open the spread sheet Solar and Battery Tariff Calculator as it says Exel found unreadable content in it, any help would be appreciated
Hi - Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment on this video. Glad you found it useful and thank you for supporting the channel 🙏. Sorry you've had that issue - I've not had any other reports of that but I've just sent you a copy of it via your gmail address. If you’ve not already, please do like this video and stay tuned for some more content.
Just run my figures through the spreadsheet prior to placing an order. I’ve specified a 9.5 kWH battery and have been quoted 4.7 kWp installation. I get a payback of 26 years ! For a 7 kWH battery it goes down to 16 years ! Any thoughts ? ( simply not worth it on first set I figures)
Hi Ian - Thanks for taking the time to watch, comment on this video and supporting the channel. There are a few things which may do it - Is your consumption particularly low, are you overpaying on the cost of install, what export rate are you factoring in - exporting in the spring/summer made a big difference to my figures.
I use your Flux figures as I’m also in NE and my roof is the same orientation as yours. My consumption is lower at approximately 4500 kWH / year. I put your installation costs in too but get 19 years. The payback period reduced until the battery is about 4.5 kWH. I wonder if my Solar peak @ 4.7 kW is simply too small.
Thanks for the extra info. The spreadsheet assumes you'll be topping the battery up to full off peak minus your daily solar generation. I found a similar pattern when I added a bigger or 2nd battery it nearly doubled my payback time.
Interesting video, thanks. With the approach of using Octopus Go in the winter months and Octopus Flux in the summer months, what export tariff would cover the winter months? Outgoing Octopus cannot be used with Octopus Go, hence I am currently pairing Go with another provider's export tariff on a 1 year arrangement. I wouldn't be able to switch this 3rd party export to/from Flux every 6 months. Does Octopus offer another export tariff that I've missed which can be switched every 6mo?
Hi - Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment on this video. Glad you found it useful. In the winter months I would go back to the SEG which currently offers 4.1p per kWh as you can't be on Go and one of the Outgoing Octopus tariffs (Fixed/Agile). Link: octopus.energy/help-and-faqs/articles/seg-tariff/ Or you could go rouge and take your export to another provider. For me (as per running the numbers in the spreadsheet) Flux export payments in the summer make it worthwhile and it wouldn't make sense for me to lock myself in somewhere else at a lower rate when solar generation will be significantly lower. If you’ve not already, please do like this video and stay tuned for some more content.
Couple of questions.. at the moment the Octopus App does not show actual cost of energy use when you are on the Agile tariff as the calculations rely on the PxQ based upon the prevailing p per kWh rate. Does this Mini change the app so the actual costs are now displayed or is it only showing you the kWh import in real-time. And on the GlowMarkt IHD CAD, I have just returned mine for a refund as there is a bug in their Agile screens which essentially meant whenever you exported to the grid (from my solar PV rig) the unit would deduct the value of that export from what it had calculated you had spent on import, but using the Agile import tariff as the export tariff. The manufacturer denied it was a bug, but on some days my totals were a minus figure, even though I had imported and so would be charged. I was pretty disappointed as this was the only unit I had found which supported Agile in real-time, but unfortunately the totals ended up being inaccurate. How have your experiences been with the IHD ? Really enjoy the videos BTW..
Hi Andrew - I've stopped using my IHD and just now go by the octopus home mini for a rough idea and then log my final bills and generation figures from the GivEnergy App. I've not used the IHD for quite some time.
Hi Shan, good news your referral link worked and my account was credited yesterday after joining Octopus about 5 weeks ago, hopefully yours has as well. I'll message you with my bank details, keep up the good work 🙂
Before fairly recently I had a tariff with just one rate, so when entering my Electricity consumption data I can't accurately say what is Peak and what is Off Peak. What do you recommend?
Thanks Barry - I see - you could try estimating the usage figures for both the off peak and peak figures and try running the numbers again. As I mentioned on FB feel free to send me a screenshot to the channel's email address if you want me to have a look, thanks Shan
Hi - Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment on this video. Glad you found it useful. I believe you need solar AND a battery for Flux. If you’ve not already, please do like this video and stay tuned for some more content.
@@everythinghome I have completed the Flux sign up pages with Octopus today and 1 of the questions is "do you have a battery". I chose NO as this is the case and the change of tariff is being processed by Octopus so it would appear that a battery is not required.
That's interesting to know. I interpreted their FAQs in that you needed to have both. Thanks for taking the time to comment, should help someone else out 👍🏽
Seems that Octopus are being very creative with their tariffs, but seem to centre around- intelligent for EV's, Flux for solar and batteries, not nothing for those fortunate enough to have both. Currently I am on Go at 7.5p off peak until September and load shift in winter, so probably will stay where I am for now.
Hi - Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment on this video. I suspect you're right staying on that tariff for the time being. It's a good rate and keeps things simple. Unless of course you have a mega solar system which creates a huge amount of export 😉 If you’ve not already, please do like this video, stay tuned for some more content and thanks for taking the time to contribute to the discussion on this video 🙂
Hi - Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment on this video. Why not? I wouldn't describe the people who have invested in renewables lucky necessarily. Like those who invested in solar panels when the first FIT came out now benefit from those amazing FIT rates which are no more. But they were brave enough to invest and pay higher installation costs.
@@everythinghome true, my fault for not being clear, I meant lucky as in they live with a clear flow of water and or air they can harness. If you've got those resources to hand, it's very fortunate
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Hi Peter, thank you for the feedback on that. Sorry about that. It seems to be working for me but I agree I think this element is a bit quieter. One of the things to buy next is a new microphone so your feedback is useful. In the interim maybe try increasing the play volume on the RUclips slider itself. Thanks again, Shan
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Thank you … great spreadsheet
Hi Anthony - Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment on this video. Glad you found the spreadsheet useful.
If you’ve not already, please do like this video and stay tuned for some more content 🙂
Very helpful and informative videos. I've taken the plunge, panels & battery being fitted in a couple of days, and your referal code to Octopus worked a treat. Thanks
Hi James thanks for taking the time to watch and comment on the video.
Exciting times and thanks for using the code - helps keep the channel going 🙏🏽 Do let me know when it goes through and I can pass on the extra £20 👍🏽
Having just had solar panels and batteries installed (6kw (14x 430W DMEGC Panels) Array, 2x 5kw Puredrive Batteries and 6kw Solis Inverter) and it being commissioned today I am now trying to figure out the best tariff for me. Currently loving Octopus for the 3rd year (just started) and on their Loyal Octopus Fixed tariff, but now considering moving onto either Flux or something else that would be better benefit to me with my new installation. Ive heard differing things and genuinely am stuck! I had considered Octopus Outgoing but that is - as the name suggests - a Export Tariff only :D
Hi James - Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment on this video.
Exciting times! Yes you're right you'll need to find an import and export tariff that meets your household consumption and takes into account your self consumption too. I made a more recent video and more powerful spreadsheet (month by month data entry) which should be helpful for you deciding. ruclips.net/video/61w5JEY3xz0/видео.html
If you’ve not already, please do like this video, stay tuned for some more content and thanks for taking the time to contribute to the discussion on this video 🙂
very informative video, thanks for posting
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I will use this spreadsheet so many thanks! I think the comparison you’ve made though, to someone without solar and batteries, should be calculated using the best tariff they would use given they have no solar or batteries.
Hope that makes sense as I’ve not yet started to use the spreadsheet so maybe I’m misreading how it does the comparison. PS: assuming, one M.
Hi - Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment on this video. Glad you found it useful.
You're right and the electricity consumption data is PRE solar and battery installation which allows the spreadsheet to forecast the savings. Sorry if this wasn't clear, but hopefully clears things up now. In this newer video I compare tariffs and the spreadsheet has been updated. ruclips.net/video/VA1XmB7aTlA/видео.html
If you’ve not already, please do like this video, stay tuned for some more content and thanks for taking the time to contribute to the discussion on this video 🙂
I believe you may have made an error in the edit. There is a cut at 05:43 where you start talking about tariff rates rather than energy usage that is indicated by the arrow on the screen.
Hi Barry - I've just re watched this and you're absolutely right - apologies that bit about rate should have been for the section below it.
Thanks,
Shan
Good video, I have been doing this myself this week and feel you need more detail to get a true comparison. I put in my average half hourly data for 2022 and put that against the average half hourly generation for the PV. This then shows the battery charge so when it's full and exporting. I found without an EV Flux us better, but once my EV arrives, Go is going to come out better (assuming mileage takes over 20kW per day. Next, I want to build in daily half-hour solar generation figures so I can show how summer and winter differ.
Hi - Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment on this video. Glad you found it useful.
I completely agree, the more data to go with the better the information out at the end. 30 minute data would take some inputting though, but not impossible. Yes, I agree Flux is better without an EV, hence the hybrid approach works best for me.
If you’ve not already, please do like this video and stay tuned for some more content.
Love the videos. I got a quote from Octopus, need to arrange a follow up call before committing but not sure what to say. Quote was 8 panels @405 w, GiV 5.2kw bat and GiV hybrid converter. I have 4 bed det house, no shading, 27m2 SW facing roof with no roof widows. My annual elect usage is around 2300kwH/yr . Should I upgrade the battery and or increase the number of solar panels etc? Thanks so much, Ian
Hi Ian - Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment on this video. Glad you found it useful an thanks for the kind words.
For me I'd always say max out on the solar - it's a lot easier to retrospectively add more battery storage than it is to add more solar. In terms of how big your battery storage is I'd look at sizing it to 1.2x your peak consumption. It's well worth getting at least 3 quotes for your install if you haven't already. We used IVoltz (based in Doncaster) who cover most of the UK and this is my install ruclips.net/video/E--CeLLsF_Q/видео.html
There's also a split referral code in that video description.
If you’ve not already, please do like this video, stay tuned for some more content and thanks for taking the time to contribute to the discussion on this video 🙂
Thanks for the great advice. I have reached out to IVoltz and they are getting back to me with an initial price. 👌🙂
No worries at all Ian - let me know how it goes. Darren and his team did a great job for us and what set them apart was Darren's patience and knowledge in answering my (hundreds) of questions and tailoring the system to what I wanted rather than what they thought I should have. You'll need to quote: IVOLTZ/EVERYTHINGHOME for the split £200.
All the best, Shan
Top left of the spreadsheet below Electricity consumption (daily average kWh)* it says pre solar battery?
Hi Jen - Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment on this video.
That's correct - it takes into account your pre solar and battery data and then uses the spec of your solar kWp and battery kWh on the top right to work out the numbers.
Thankyou for sharing this .. I can’t find the spreadsheet link. Thanks again.
Hi, thanks for watching the video. The link is in the video description. I've also added it here 🙂www.buymeacoffee.com/EverythingHome/e/123656
We changed to flux a month or so ago (was on the standard variable tariff). Transfer to Octopus and Import sorted out quite quickly, now waiting for the DNO to issue an export MPAN. 😴 Been a month already but could take some time. Annoying watching all the unpaid export we generate every day,
We don’t have an EV so probably will move to Octopus Cosy for the winter when our electricity demand exceeds solar generation.
Just one correction, 4:20, if you have a FIT array (we do), yes you have to give up deemed export, but it is not a permanent move, you can revert back to FIT deemed export after a year. Both OfGem and my FIT payer confirmed this from the T’s & C’s. We have a much bigger 10.4kW non-FIT array so I still think it’ll be worth it though
Hi - Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment on this video.
Yes, you're correct - we got two different pieces of advice two different times I enquired. After making the video and deciding to give up the deemed export payments EDF clarified the following position: 'As the rules of the FIT Scheme state you are only able to change your export option once every 12 months, should you wish to opt back in to receiving FIT export this would not be possible until after 01/04/2024. Please also be advised that as you now have a meter that can measure export, should you decide to opt back in to the FIT Scheme for export you will no longer be able to receive a deemed payment and will instead receive metered export payments. This is in line with the Feed in Tariff Ofgem Guidance.'
If you’ve not already, please do like this video, stay tuned for some more content and thanks for taking the time to contribute to the discussion on this video 🙂
Yes I saw that bit in the FIT scheme rules as well, that if you have a smart meter you have to be paid for actual FIT export not deemed export.
But given I've got a second non FIT array with batteries, how they'd work out the actual FIT export I don't know.
Unlikely to want to go back to FIT export but I wanted to know that it's an option as Flux and other similar tariffs could change or be pulled in the future
Yup - that's exactly the same as us. 2015 FIT benefitting array and then more solar and a battery added late 2022 and as you say unlikely to ever want to go back to deemed export unless something catastrophic happens!
Great video. Flux has three rates viz:Off peak, Daytime (05.00-1600 and then 21.00-02.00 and Peak (16.0-21.00). Which figure is most suitable to use for Peak or perhaps use an average ?
Hi Kevin - Thanks for taking the time to watch, comment on this video and download the spreadsheet. Glad you found it useful.
I used and would suggest using the day time rate for peak and lowest for off peak (02:00-05:00). As you say, you could always if you wanted to take an average of the day rate and 4-7pm rate.
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Hi , i like there video so decided to download the spreadsheet. I inputted my data as best i could from my supplier & solar system installer and exspected a nice result regarding payback years and ROI. I ended up with negative values, I only filled in first quarter as i had my system installed in Feb. 2022, therefore the following quarters ie. Apr - Jun July -Sep Oct to Dec would not tally up as i was then on solar if you get my meaning. could you please advise as to what i am doing wrong or have i missed something , many thanks .
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The consumption figures are PRE solar and battery. So if you use post figures you may end up with negative figures. If you've not already done so use the pre solar and battery consumption data you have. The other thing is inputting a realistic self consumption of solar only.
If you're still struggling send me a screenshot to savemecashuk@gmail.com and I'll take a look later today 👍🏽
Thanks again, Shan
Hi How do I download your spread sheet. 22.00pm
Hi Bobby - Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment on this video.
You can download the spreadsheet here: www.buymeacoffee.com/EverythingHome/e/123656
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Really interesting video. I wish Octopus did the work for you and advised on the best tariff
I have a new solar + batteries system and an EV and PHEV to charge. At the moment I'd need to be exporting over 470kWh per month for Flux to be better than Go . I'll keep an eye on how much I export but it looks at the moment that I'm better off pumping excess into the cars and hot tank
Hi Billy - Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment on this video. Glad you found it useful.
We also charge our PHEV once a day. The hot water is an interesting one which I also looked at. It makes more sense to heat my HW cylinder via gas than electricity which would otherwise be exported.
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Hi thanks for the extremely informative and succinct video.
I am on Octopus Go Faster ( finishing in 7 days ), have got 2 EVs ( average miles between the 2 is somewhere around 550 miles per week ).
I have also got a 10 day old solar 6.1 kw PV system with 15.6 kWh of batteries and an Eddi for the HW.
In the last 7 days , I have managed to use up almost everything we generated and export nothing..so I am now confused as to what tariff to move on. Please advise.
Kind regards.
Hi - Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment on this video. Glad you found it useful.
I suspect you'll need to run the numbers Go Vs Flux, the spreadsheet should help infor your decision 👍🏽
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I,m new to this solar /battery parlava ! and have just started looking at my useage as of now,, I as I live alone (billy no mates) I am using less Kwh in money terms then the standing charge.. My standing charge comes to 42p perday £153 ayear.. So I am toying with switching to a No Standing charge tarffi,,, his is via a prepaid meter and a price of 58p for the first 2 kwh and a lower price after that.. I think it would work for me...any thoughts?
Hi - Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment on this video.
Interesting. I've not come across a no standing charge option. I think you'd need to look at your usage numbers and then work out if it would be worth switching to the tariff you're making reference to. This should be helpful keeping track of the numbers. You'd need to add the standing charge but should be straight forward to do as an add on.
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How is my battery off peak charging time accounted for
Hi Jen, It is accounted for by entering the total kWh of your battery in the top right hand corner. It assumes you charge it up off peak to full.
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Any Calcs for EV, Battery and Solar without export as many DIY so don't get export due to no MCS certification ?
Should be able to just leave the export payment at 0. Will likely skew your payback/ROI. I suppose you need to use everything you produce which I suspect can be difficult.
Good video. Crumbs this is complicated. Seems the best deal might be flux for summer, Go for winter? But we have a 77kwh EV and I think I need the extended hours of lower rate to charge it ( the ev charges at 7kw with our old school car charger so would require a very sunny day to charge on solar alone!) I might stick with Intelligent Go and fixed rate for simplicity …?
Hi Karen - Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment on this video. Glad you found it useful.
It's definitely complicated! It all depends on how much you need to import vs your potential export. I'm charging at night on Flux over 3 hours but you may need more depending on your mileage. Simplicity would say stick with Go or Intelligent. But, it also depends on your solar generation. Hence the spreadsheet. Best of luck 😬
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As I lack an EV already moved to Flux. For me I am exporting a portion of the battery energy each evening as that is where the earning potential is. Will have to see how it works out over the next few months.
Hi - Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment on this video.
I think I would do the same if in the same position. I'm tempted by pushing some to the grid from the battery between 4-7pm - it would probably be an hours export so around 3 kWh but I'm protective of the battery. It's a great dilemma to have some good paying export options.
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For me it's not worth additional strain / use on the battery
A great video, very helpful as I am assessing several quotes for a PV / battery system of similar size and am based in NE England too.
Hi Ian - Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment on this video. Glad you found it useful and to hear you're in the NE too.
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Is your TARIFF calculator compatible with macBook Pro macOS Catalina Version 10.15.7 ?
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I'm not sure as I mainly operate on windows, but if you can run a normal excel file on it then it should be ok
Great, and It's working ok on my macBook without any problem. The one thing that puzzles me is, I'm currently on Octopus Go and just had Solar panels and batteries installed, I'm thinking about switching to Octopus Flux. But you have entered 4.1p in as an export but my Octopus Go doesn't have an export tariff, so do I leave that blank on the left hand side of the spreadsheet?
That's great to hear, thanks for supporting the channel.
You should be able to sign up for export at 4.1p per kWh whilst on Octopus Go. Better than it going away for nothing
I got the calculator / spreadsheet today and started populating it. Unfortunately some of underlying formulas (protected on spreadsheet) .the erroneous results begin in a peak daily cost being almost £380. Did I get receive an incorrect version of the %spreadsheet?
Hi Allen, thanks for downloading the spreadsheet and supporting the channel.
Yes I agree, that doesn't sound right. The version has not changed and no one else has flagged any issue up. I suspect it may be a simple data entry issue. Have you entered pence rather than pounds? If you're struggling feel free to send me an email at the channels email: savemecashuk@gmail.com
And I'll take a look for you later today 👍🏽
Is the spreadsheet available to download?
Hi Martyn, thanks for taking the time to watch and comment.
Yes it is, there's a link in the video description or I've popped it below 👇
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Very informative video & I've purchased the Solar and Battery Tariff Calculator to see if it pays us to move to Flux.
EDIT.. I can't open the spread sheet Solar and Battery Tariff Calculator as it says Exel found unreadable content in it, any help would be appreciated
Hi - Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment on this video. Glad you found it useful and thank you for supporting the channel 🙏.
Sorry you've had that issue - I've not had any other reports of that but I've just sent you a copy of it via your gmail address.
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@@everythinghome All received & thanks for fast response
No bother at all, thanks again for supporting the channel 👍🏽
Just run my figures through the spreadsheet prior to placing an order. I’ve specified a 9.5 kWH battery and have been quoted 4.7 kWp installation. I get a payback of 26 years ! For a 7 kWH battery it goes down to 16 years ! Any thoughts ? ( simply not worth it on first set I figures)
Hi Ian - Thanks for taking the time to watch, comment on this video and supporting the channel.
There are a few things which may do it - Is your consumption particularly low, are you overpaying on the cost of install, what export rate are you factoring in - exporting in the spring/summer made a big difference to my figures.
I use your Flux figures as I’m also in NE and my roof is the same orientation as yours. My consumption is lower at approximately 4500 kWH / year. I put your installation costs in too but get 19 years. The payback period reduced until the battery is about 4.5 kWH.
I wonder if my Solar peak @ 4.7 kW is simply too small.
Thanks for the extra info. The spreadsheet assumes you'll be topping the battery up to full off peak minus your daily solar generation. I found a similar pattern when I added a bigger or 2nd battery it nearly doubled my payback time.
Interesting video, thanks. With the approach of using Octopus Go in the winter months and Octopus Flux in the summer months, what export tariff would cover the winter months? Outgoing Octopus cannot be used with Octopus Go, hence I am currently pairing Go with another provider's export tariff on a 1 year arrangement. I wouldn't be able to switch this 3rd party export to/from Flux every 6 months. Does Octopus offer another export tariff that I've missed which can be switched every 6mo?
Hi - Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment on this video. Glad you found it useful.
In the winter months I would go back to the SEG which currently offers 4.1p per kWh as you can't be on Go and one of the Outgoing Octopus tariffs (Fixed/Agile). Link: octopus.energy/help-and-faqs/articles/seg-tariff/
Or you could go rouge and take your export to another provider. For me (as per running the numbers in the spreadsheet) Flux export payments in the summer make it worthwhile and it wouldn't make sense for me to lock myself in somewhere else at a lower rate when solar generation will be significantly lower.
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Couple of questions.. at the moment the Octopus App does not show actual cost of energy use when you are on the Agile tariff as the calculations rely on the PxQ based upon the prevailing p per kWh rate. Does this Mini change the app so the actual costs are now displayed or is it only showing you the kWh import in real-time.
And on the GlowMarkt IHD CAD, I have just returned mine for a refund as there is a bug in their Agile screens which essentially meant whenever you exported to the grid (from my solar PV rig) the unit would deduct the value of that export from what it had calculated you had spent on import, but using the Agile import tariff as the export tariff. The manufacturer denied it was a bug, but on some days my totals were a minus figure, even though I had imported and so would be charged. I was pretty disappointed as this was the only unit I had found which supported Agile in real-time, but unfortunately the totals ended up being inaccurate. How have your experiences been with the IHD ?
Really enjoy the videos BTW..
Hi Andrew - I've stopped using my IHD and just now go by the octopus home mini for a rough idea and then log my final bills and generation figures from the GivEnergy App. I've not used the IHD for quite some time.
Hi Shan, good news your referral link worked and my account was credited yesterday after joining Octopus about 5 weeks ago, hopefully yours has as well. I'll message you with my bank details, keep up the good work 🙂
Hi James,
Thanks for your message and for supporting the channel. I've received your email and will transfer that tonight. Thanks again, Shan
Thanks Shan, you're the best 👌
No worries James, thanks for supporting the channel 👍
Before fairly recently I had a tariff with just one rate, so when entering my Electricity consumption data I can't accurately say what is Peak and what is Off Peak. What do you recommend?
Thanks Barry - I see - you could try estimating the usage figures for both the off peak and peak figures and try running the numbers again. As I mentioned on FB feel free to send me a screenshot to the channel's email address if you want me to have a look, thanks Shan
Amazing video! I’ve got a lot of solar but no battery. Am I still eligible for the tariff ? Can’t seem to find the answer in the FAQs!
Hi - Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment on this video. Glad you found it useful.
I believe you need solar AND a battery for Flux.
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@@everythinghome I have completed the Flux sign up pages with Octopus today and 1 of the questions is "do you have a battery". I chose NO as this is the case and the change of tariff is being processed by Octopus so it would appear that a battery is not required.
That's interesting to know. I interpreted their FAQs in that you needed to have both. Thanks for taking the time to comment, should help someone else out 👍🏽
Seems that Octopus are being very creative with their tariffs, but seem to centre around- intelligent for EV's, Flux for solar and batteries, not nothing for those fortunate enough to have both. Currently I am on Go at 7.5p off peak until September and load shift in winter, so probably will stay where I am for now.
Hi - Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment on this video.
I suspect you're right staying on that tariff for the time being. It's a good rate and keeps things simple. Unless of course you have a mega solar system which creates a huge amount of export 😉
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Why the 02:00-05:00 rate, those lucky people who have home hydro or a wind turbine
Hi - Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment on this video.
Why not? I wouldn't describe the people who have invested in renewables lucky necessarily. Like those who invested in solar panels when the first FIT came out now benefit from those amazing FIT rates which are no more. But they were brave enough to invest and pay higher installation costs.
@@everythinghome true, my fault for not being clear, I meant lucky as in they live with a clear flow of water and or air they can harness.
If you've got those resources to hand, it's very fortunate
Possibly lucky, but it's one thing to have something and another to use it to its full potential. All the best.
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Your commentary keeps switching off whenever you're showing in the small 'in video screen.
Hi Peter, thank you for the feedback on that. Sorry about that. It seems to be working for me but I agree I think this element is a bit quieter.
One of the things to buy next is a new microphone so your feedback is useful. In the interim maybe try increasing the play volume on the RUclips slider itself.
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Hi Shan, thanks for your reply, but apart from some music I can't hear any commentary at all!@@everythinghome
Yikes, I'm not sure why that is. I've tried it on a few devices and it's working fine for me. You could try it on a computer/phone/TV.
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The commentary is in the left channel only, so you probably have a problem with that.