With each piano the microphone picking up the sound gets closer, as does the camera. Yamaha more distant with more room reverb, Steinway louder because closer with much less room reverb, Kayserberg closest loudest very little room reverb. Absolutely terrible comparison!
@@Thiago-px9ev interesting. Well, let’s assume that I am a professional piano technician and I tune/service both CFX and Steinway D pianos on a regular basis. In that case both of these pianos are more than slightly out of tune in the video (especially if the goal was to compare the pianos to each other). Is it possible they just arrived at the venue and hadn’t had their final tuning? Of course, but I’m just pointing out that they are more than “slightly” out of tune. I’m suspicious of the Kayserburg which was in very good tune and sounded wonderful. I suspect one of two things: - The Kayserburg is the house instrument for this venue and was already there, prepped and tuned for this video. Coincidence. - The Kayserburg was meticulously tuned while the CFX and Steinway were not in order to make them look inferior. Also notice he plays quite a bit more on the Kayserburg (showing it off?) than the CFX and Steinway. All of the above is just my suspicion, but it’s clear he preferred the Kayserburg.
@@Pruticle You just assumed what I thought you were. I didn't say you don't recognize tuning, of course the CFX is out of tune, what I assumed - and seems that I was right - is that you're too used to concert-tuned instruments, which is fine and should be the standard thing, to think too bad of this CFX tuning. Of course it's bad enough to play a concert or to record something, but I wish all pianos in my university were that "bad". This is far from "screamingly-out-of-tune".
I think the Cfx is hands down the best. The tonal colors throughout the entire range is superb. It’s not bright like old Yamahas but not nearly muddy as a Steinway. I don’t think muddy is the word there’s just something about Steinway bass that always sounds more like Helen Keller talks than how Celine dion sings.
The major components in the Kayserburg KA275 are from Germany. Soundboard, Bavarian Spruce by Strunz. Action stack and Hammers by Renner which is now owned by Steinway. Pinblock by Dehonit. Strings, Röslau. Keyframe and keysticks by Laukhuff. Fully handcrafted by master builders near Guangzhou, China. The biggest difference is that you can own multiple Kayserburg KA275’s vs. 1 X Steinway D274. One must actually play to understand the differences vs. hearing an audio recording. Yes, the Yamaha CFX, which by no means is a phenomenal concert grand that is way out of tune. No, the Kayserburg is unlike a Bösendorfer. Bösendorfer’s rim construction is completely different vs. any other piano manufacture today. A Bösendorfer is a Bösendorfer. It cannot become a Steinway and vice-versa.
Yamaha , very precise and versatile... Steinway , blends and sings nicely. Kayserburg, sounds like a Bosendorfer copy: very strong bass , but the tones sound less lively and the mid and high registers are really set apart. Not so suitable for classical music. IMHO. Especially the mid and higher register ar a bit flat compared to the bass.
Not a very good comparison seeing as though the Yamaha was very much out of tune and not set up properly yet. Also, the person recording is not at a consistent distance from each instrument. Overall, as a tech, I would have to say for overall balance of sound, the Steinway is great. I've never really liked Steinway's actions unless they were regulated very well. The Yamaha is the most precise, consistent, and versatile. The tone has a clarity and precision that sings and cuts through an orchestra very nicely, and also has a full spectrum of color. I also think that the CFX action is by far the best touch and response of any of them at their best. Kayserburg is nice, but not as balanced as the others. Good power and sustain though. At this level, they are all excellent and worth the price. The choice is very subjective, since all do what they were designed to do very well. Beautiful playing!!!!
Kayserburg sounds so muffled. Like a guitar with old strings. CFX is great. Steinway is like an old Fender amp. Blends well but lacks definition and detail for real fast technical playing.
Steinway is the most articulate. The CFX to my ear sounds a little thin. The Kayserberg has what the CFX is missing in richnness of sound,. Warmer but not quite as articulate as the Steinway. The only brand that I think can top a Steinway is a Bosendorfer... i'd love to hear a Fazioli in the mix.
This Kayserburg is probably a new instrument. It will not hold as the Yamaha and Steinway will - by far! And it doesn't have the projection that the other two have. A good piano, but that's it.
Better steinway than Yomama ( you know what i mean). Still in every songs Steinway is the lead for Pianos. Steinway is for Professional Piano. Yamaha is more for Learning Piano. The Chinese piano, i didn't like it. That's my opinion. And if you want to comment critical or suggestion. Use good words ok. I know You have been taught to use A good manner right in typing something or even talking to someone. So, Type words nicely. And think Twice before you comments.
Oh man, the Steinway makes the Yamaha sound like an amateur. To my ears the Yamaha sounds muddy. Steinway sounds clearer. But maybe it's where the mic is. Not fair.
@@hastensavoir7782 the choice is definitely up to you of corss. I like both. Good thing I haven't come across a bad one yet because I hear they vary in quality refering to the ones in NY🎹🎶
@@hastensavoir7782 what I keep hearing is soundboard inconsistency resulting in weak sustain in the upper octivs. I know the notes in the upper octivs on evry piano don't sustain that well, however they say the sustain is shorter than usual🎹🎶
With each piano the microphone picking up the sound gets closer, as does the camera. Yamaha more distant with more room reverb, Steinway louder because closer with much less room reverb, Kayserberg closest loudest very little room reverb.
Absolutely terrible comparison!
Kayserburg is not bad at all
Steinway is number one. CFX has crystal clear highs though.
The CFX is so colorful. My favorite piano! Too bad it was slighty out of tune
It looks like they just move it to prepare for concert which affect the tune which is common.
Slightly? The poor thing was screaming out of tune.
@@Pruticle Guess you've never met a real detuned piano if you think that's too bad.
@@Thiago-px9ev interesting. Well, let’s assume that I am a professional piano technician and I tune/service both CFX and Steinway D pianos on a regular basis. In that case both of these pianos are more than slightly out of tune in the video (especially if the goal was to compare the pianos to each other). Is it possible they just arrived at the venue and hadn’t had their final tuning? Of course, but I’m just pointing out that they are more than “slightly” out of tune.
I’m suspicious of the Kayserburg which was in very good tune and sounded wonderful. I suspect one of two things:
- The Kayserburg is the house instrument for this venue and was already there, prepped and tuned for this video. Coincidence.
- The Kayserburg was meticulously tuned while the CFX and Steinway were not in order to make them look inferior. Also notice he plays quite a bit more on the Kayserburg (showing it off?) than the CFX and Steinway.
All of the above is just my suspicion, but it’s clear he preferred the Kayserburg.
@@Pruticle You just assumed what I thought you were. I didn't say you don't recognize tuning, of course the CFX is out of tune, what I assumed - and seems that I was right - is that you're too used to concert-tuned instruments, which is fine and should be the standard thing, to think too bad of this CFX tuning. Of course it's bad enough to play a concert or to record something, but I wish all pianos in my university were that "bad". This is far from "screamingly-out-of-tune".
This just feels like a setup to make the Kayserburg sound better - this is advertising content
I think the Cfx is hands down the best. The tonal colors throughout the entire range is superb. It’s not bright like old Yamahas but not nearly muddy as a Steinway. I don’t think muddy is the word there’s just something about Steinway bass that always sounds more like Helen Keller talks than how Celine dion sings.
personal preference, I'm the opposite
Initially I was going to say D274, but then listened to CFX a few times... CFX for the win
The Steinway has it all: growl in the bass, grit in the mids, and clarity in the higher register.
The major components in the Kayserburg KA275 are from Germany. Soundboard, Bavarian Spruce by Strunz. Action stack and Hammers by Renner which is now owned by Steinway. Pinblock by Dehonit. Strings, Röslau. Keyframe and keysticks by Laukhuff. Fully handcrafted by master builders near Guangzhou, China. The biggest difference is that you can own multiple Kayserburg KA275’s vs. 1 X Steinway D274. One must actually play to understand the differences vs. hearing an audio recording. Yes, the Yamaha CFX, which by no means is a phenomenal concert grand that is way out of tune. No, the Kayserburg is unlike a Bösendorfer. Bösendorfer’s rim construction is completely different vs. any other piano manufacture today. A Bösendorfer is a Bösendorfer. It cannot become a Steinway and vice-versa.
Yamaha needs tuning
Yamaha bright and sweety.Stainway big and strong.All are very beautiful sound.💖
Steinway is 💯 times better
Yamaha is for me still king of music
Because Yamaha is out of tune🎹🎶
Sincerely and honestly I cant judge which piano sound is the best by closing my eyes and just by listening the touch of the fingering
I love Yamaha ！
Which piano did you like more?
Hearing Yamaha is like hearing rain droplet hitting pavement. Steinway is like bearing ball pouring over pavement
wtf XD
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I love the twinkly quality of the upper range of the Yamaha.
Steinway is all the best. Yamaha CFX is much improved from previous series. Kayserburg has no character
Yamaha , very precise and versatile... Steinway , blends and sings nicely.
Kayserburg, sounds like a Bosendorfer copy: very strong bass , but the tones sound less lively and the mid and high registers are really set apart. Not so suitable for classical music. IMHO. Especially the mid and higher register ar a bit flat compared to the bass.
I agree kayserburg sound like bosendorfer
He play the Yamaha CFX first because he know,Yamaha CFX is the best.Clever
Kayserburg is just miraculous!!! :)
Seems like there are one or two more pianos
I like the character of the Yamaha.
Of course is D-274❤
Steinway rules.. Yamaha thin and bright. Kayserburg not bad at all...I wonder how it would compare with the Yangste River.....
So wich ine did you like the most?
I played a Steinway for years and I wish that it was that Kaiserburg, is the first time I hear that piano and it is great!
Kayserburg It is a well accomplished copy of Boesendorfer like all Chinese. Good option
pure warm european sound
There are many reasons that Steinway is thee choice of professional pianists for their performances.
Yes, and MANY of these reasons are „exclusivity contracts“ Steinway makes with pianists!
Kayserburg was most impressive to me
Not a very good comparison seeing as though the Yamaha was very much out of tune and not set up properly yet. Also, the person recording is not at a consistent distance from each instrument. Overall, as a tech, I would have to say for overall balance of sound, the Steinway is great. I've never really liked Steinway's actions unless they were regulated very well. The Yamaha is the most precise, consistent, and versatile. The tone has a clarity and precision that sings and cuts through an orchestra very nicely, and also has a full spectrum of color. I also think that the CFX action is by far the best touch and response of any of them at their best. Kayserburg is nice, but not as balanced as the others. Good power and sustain though. At this level, they are all excellent and worth the price. The choice is very subjective, since all do what they were designed to do very well. Beautiful playing!!!!
None of them are tuned or voiced well !
Cây D-274 khác biệt thật sự ạ, ước mơ cả đời có 1 cây để chơi 😢
wonderful playing
1. Steinway 2. Kayserburg 3. CFX
Just my taste.
Did you leave the Yamaha out of tine on purpose?
That really is a most credible sound from the Keyserburg!
Too bad Yamaha was out of tune
やっぱヤマハとスタインウェイだわw
Kayserburg KA275 sound warmer others sound too note-ty
Kayserburg sounds so muffled. Like a guitar with old strings. CFX is great. Steinway is like an old Fender amp. Blends well but lacks definition and detail for real fast technical playing.
Steinway is the most articulate. The CFX to my ear sounds a little thin. The Kayserberg has what the CFX is missing in richnness of sound,. Warmer but not quite as articulate as the Steinway. The only brand that I think can top a Steinway is a Bosendorfer... i'd love to hear a Fazioli in the mix.
Ufff se lo lleva steinway 🎉
Suddenly...Cantopop
I'll stick with my Bechstein, but thanks
steinway no doubt
always yamaha cfx~!!
Steinway❤️
This Kayserburg is probably a new instrument. It will not hold as the Yamaha and Steinway will - by far! And it doesn't have the projection that the other two have. A good piano, but that's it.
Esse Yamaha se define em Yulianna avdeeva.
Steinway has the tone color and beauty , clear as waterfall and cheerfull
what exact model of yamaha cfx that has a computer inside?
DCFX
Yamaha CFX Disklavier Enspire
Better steinway than Yomama ( you know what i mean). Still in every songs Steinway is the lead for Pianos. Steinway is for Professional Piano. Yamaha is more for Learning Piano. The Chinese piano, i didn't like it. That's my opinion. And if you want to comment critical or suggestion. Use good words ok. I know You have been taught to use A good manner right in typing something or even talking to someone. So, Type words nicely. And think Twice before you comments.
Yamaha, Kayserburg then Steinway
The tops are off so the sound is not really realistic. Of these three I'll take the Steinway thank you.
Oh man, the Steinway makes the Yamaha sound like an amateur. To my ears the Yamaha sounds muddy. Steinway sounds clearer. But maybe it's where the mic is. Not fair.
Yamaha ❤
Yamaha Hammer,,, necessary needling
The CFX is made with German hammers!
@@matthewraden5210 A lot of German/European components in the CFX and some other Yamahas.
@@benjaminsmith2287 Doesn't mean that they've been voiced properly.
That Yamaha is out of tune, so unfortunately a little bit unfair on it haha
Steinway
アレンジのクセが凄いんじゃ
Steinway in this case :)
Yamaha is better for bass.
The Yamaha needs tuning badly.
Wolf Roads
I dont like the Kayserburg. The Steinway and CFX are both wonderful.
Wow. Yamaha put them to shame. Makes me wonder how Steinway has remained a creditable company with such awful quality control and tonal quality
yout need a better microphone, none of them sounds good
카이저버그ㅋㅋㅋ 이름은 겁나 간지나네ㅋㅋㅋ
Kayserburg is a poor pianist concert grand.
Steinway is always the best,
I have prejudge of Chinese products.Yamaha and Steinway of course the best ones.
Steinway of course. It’s like comparing Mercedes S Class to Lexus LS. German >>Japanese
Yeah as long as it's made in Hamburg like the one in the video🎹🎶
@@MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12 NO. I even like NY tone Better.
@@hastensavoir7782 the choice is definitely up to you of corss. I like both. Good thing I haven't come across a bad one yet because I hear they vary in quality refering to the ones in NY🎹🎶
@@MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12 when we speak about Quality, what areas? Tone? Touch? Finish? Tuning Stability?
@@hastensavoir7782 what I keep hearing is soundboard inconsistency resulting in weak sustain in the upper octivs. I know the notes in the upper octivs on evry piano don't sustain that well, however they say the sustain is shorter than usual🎹🎶
your piano is not good, it's just better than the worst two piano makers on the market. 😂
Kayserburg sound like made by cheap wood 😢