Birth of a Giant
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
- This documentary short tells the story of the conception, construction and testing of the largest Canadian aircraft of its time - the Canadair Argus. A marine reconnaissance aircraft, the Argus was designed and manufactured by Canadair for the Canadian Forces and the Royal Canadian Air Force. In its early years, it was reputedly the finest anti-submarine patrol bomber in the world.
Directed by Hugh O'Connor - 1957
This was my father's generation. He was 25 when this film was made. Everyone is slim, clean shaven, has a fresh haircut and is well dressed. People had pride in how they looked. My father passed that to and me to my boys but many have not. The downside is they smoked like chimneys and died young from it.
There was a lot of incentives back then to stick to standards. Most people knew they had jobs for life if their kept their noses clean and dressed smart. They did their part and had security and the employers their part in keeping work coming in and giving a fair deal.
Houses and cars were much more affordable and you had a real chance of giving your children a good future.
The world sadly has changed. The working classes want more for less, the bosses do not offer any real security and how many offer a job for life.
The companies saw it was much easier and cheaper to farm off the labour to cheap Asian markets especially China and now look at the mess we are in, all because of greed and shortsightedness. I bet you can only but dream to give your grand kids the same opportunities even if they are brought up well.
I spent 4 years of my RCAF career as an Argus navigator on 405 (Eagle) Squadron. This film brings back many memories of the long patrols over the Atlantic during the Cold War. It is wonderful to see this record of the birth of the plane. Looking back in my logbook, I found that I actually flew on 17 operational missions on Argus 710, the airframe depicted taking off on the first test flightin the film.The assembly line footage shows Argus 716, on which I had 3 missions.
Fascinating! The Argus was designed as a ultra long range and time on station ASW platform. In your log book, what was the longest flight aboard an Argus you were part of?
Did you ever fly with Barry Towill? He was a neighbour of mine for a few years.
@@DougHanchard 19 hours, 15 minutes
@@briggsquantum Don't remember him
@@regwatts3866 You should write a book about your experiences.
What a great video and time capsule of Canada’s aerospace industry. We need more of this in our current age.
Easily the best airplane documentary I’ve ever seen. Dramatic without being the least bit corny.
Completely agree.
I really agree with you!
Nope. Not one bit corny.
There's an even better one on this same channel that isn't so phony, called, "Challenger: An Industrial Romance", you should really check it out. It's one of the best aircraft docs I've seen.
@@everythingviral972 I know it well, and I agree. And very touching at the end when it's flying to the music of Pachelbel.
There must have been an award given to the producers - this is possibly the best industrial film ever made.
I flew them from The Cuban Crisis in 62 until we brought in the Aurora in 80.I preferred the Argus.A magnificent tool for the job!
Well stated Peter. You in Summerside 59-67? Know any FE’s back then?
The aurora is a great plane....
Thank you for your service sir.
You amazing old fart
Cayman Hunter zip it tard
That music score is incredible. Probably the best ever. Like Jaws or War of the Worlds. Conveys immense power and massive colossal size.
What nostalgia to watch this excellent documentary. So reminiscent of the films shown to grade-school kids in the 60's. I just wish I'd had some popcorn & and Coke to watch this with :)
I am glad someone went to the trouble of putting this film away carefully. Also the whole wind tunnel sequence has a glorious case of the mad scientist vibe, seems like a nice touch.
Psychopaths run the world my friend ! Now the NWO and Bill Gates of Sheol want to chip us and control us .That's the powers you were serving ! Amein!
@@markdemell3717 Step away from the crack pipe.
@@markdemell3717 your village called looking for you.
@@ih302 You wish.
Saw lots of them coming and going from CFB Comox, but never realized how much effort - design, analysis, specification, procurement, testing, and the actual assembly - that it took to get one of these machines in the air....... very well done documentary!
balsumfractus That must have been amazing! Now I have to go and look up its history. I know nothing about it.🇨🇦
That must have been when our goverment had "stones".
I wish the sound of this aircraft in flight was duplicated in this film to sound like it did while flying over my house in Greenwood around 1978 as I recall it. For an eight year old, I remember it as a frightening but glorious sound.
I was on a course in PEI at cfb Summerside that summer when this aircraft was decommissioned. The base commander flew the last flight and gave us an air show. He put the plane into some crazy sharp maneuvers and I swear I could see rivets popping from the airframe being stressed beyond its design capacities.
The four engines roared and was deafening from even a half mile away.
It was really something to see. Shortly afterwards a large crane came to the base with a large guillotine and started cutting up the fleet.
It was sad to see.
Love the camera / lighting work in this typical 1950’s docu.
that paint scheme of the era, loved it
These were just finishing the last couple of years of their service life when I was enterning mine. A great a/c. Very complex but what capability and range!
It's amazing how the production challenges shown in this film 63 yrs ago are so similar to nuclear submarine construction today, at either electric boat or Newport news.
Gee what great video 📹 footage from those days fantastic thank you for Sharing Australia 🌏
wow shots of the des prarie river, laval, montreal....wow a step back in time.....
She was a monster in her class and in her day. A wonderful aircraft!
Not Leo Cox?!!!!!
Very well filmed I must say. 👍
Having worked at Bombardier, it was funny to recognise the Cartierville plant that is still in operation some 64 years later. And I must say, it haven’t changed much.
It's funny, when you reach my age, just about every person in this old film looks like someone you know now or knew before. Film gives a good feel for the excruciating attention to details required to engineer and build a modern aircraft. Imagine now with the massive avionics how it must be.
Господи🙏🏼какое это счастье создавать такое чудо
This is old Canada. Back then it was a different nation politically and culturally.
You got that right, wish it still existed. Politics poisons virtually everything.
wlodell no joke!
Things in Canada have not been the same since that woman showed her stuff at Studio 54.therunagatesclub.blogspot.com/2016/04/margaret-trudeaus-bum.html?m=1
@@MrMelgibstein It's what came out of there that's the problem. Isn't that soy boy's mom?
@@joeboygo It sure is, Lol.
Remember the good old days when north American made its own shit? I have to replace a hot water heater in my house this week that I should have gotten another ten years out of. I will give you a guess where it was made.
The USA or Mexico? All Australian hot water systems are still made in Australia. A matter of weight I imagine. Gas systems that work on a demand basis I am not sure.
Ccp
@@skippy5712 -China bought 22 to 27% of Aus many years back. Ausies wanted Free stuff of Socialism and China gave them the cash to do it... in exchange for a 'great white shark' bite of the Ausies vast mineral reserves. The rest of the Aus economy to this day pays China an ever increasing percentage, for all of it's other free socialized 'stuff' ;
It was made in China.
Maybe it wasn't such a good idea for our corporate manufacturing giants to put all of their eggs into the China/India/Korean baskets in the name of BIG CORPORATE PROFITS ? The contaminated chickens now seem to be coming home to roost (food for thought).
Probably the greatest sub hunter plane ever made and a world record holder for non stop flight. The “Wayne Gretzky” of anti submarine aircraft. 415 Swordfish Summerside squadron Topgun sub killers.
My first Sqn tour fliying the Argus 62-66 on 415 Sqn!
Peter Devana Holy cow! Incredible!
415 Sqn. Topguns!
The Argus holds the Canadian military record for non-fueled flight, but not a "world record". Just for comparison, the recon version of the B-36 had a theoretical endurance of 50 hours.
Billy Rock My understanding is the Canadian endurance record was limited by engine oil consumption, not fuel! What a great doc, as an Officer Cadet on summer training in Summerside had two short family flights summer of 1971.
Peter Devana Fly with any FEs? Remember any?
In the days of made in Canada. So sad that home produced parts are a part of history in this good old days film , and it was GOOD.
Canada's good days ... when we had good engineers & could actually build something.
Back when Canada had the industry, skilled work force and drive to create such aircraft. For decades now procurement for all branches of the military has been a disaster.
Unfortunately politics has played a very heavy hand in this debacle starting with the cancellation of the Avro Canada CF-105 Arrow as in 20 February 1959 the "formidable" Prime Minister of Canada John Deifnbaker abruptly halted the development of the Arrow (and its Iroquois engines) when ready effectively putting out of business the Avro factory and scattering all the highly qualified people. The consequences are still felt today...
@@paoloviti6156 Yup. And the US grabbed a lot of those skilled designers and engineers for the Apollo program. Back in the day Canada punched way above its weight and Douchenbaker killed that and turned us into a third class country in terms of innovation.
…..or when Bristol aircraft at Filton, UK did.
Look what's happened to Bombardier.
@@paoloviti6156 Think about how much the UK saves by having the US pay for Canadian defense.
I've seen the old Argus in Summerside Air base in PEI. Family used to work on them and I have records from the day. Nostalgia gets us every time.
Seeing how they stretched that sheet metal into shape at 12:15 was pretty cool. I thought something like that would take a two sided press.
Anyone have any idea who wrote the musical score for this? It’s pretty impressive.
Just going to mention the AVRO Arrow. We knew what we were doing at one time.
Bud, we still do, but the "big boys" won't even look at our way anymore. We have become just another sheep in a flock of sheeps, and i fear our moment in time has passed, thanks to the cold war, weak politicians, an inherent financial timidity and an indifferent population. Canada COULD HAVE BECOME, a world class power, but now, we are, at best, a footnote in history. THANK YOU!
And of course the basic design of the ICL 1900 series mainframes that I worked on in Johannesburg as a young man was Canadian.
@Nobby Barnes well. I know about 2 out of the 3, which are in decline. The U.S., which has lost the moral high ground because of Trumpet, and Russia who if they mounted a single major attack would exhaust the treasury, now that it is Putin's. China is making a lot of noise, but they have virtually nothing to back up their claims. At least nothing LEGAL. The U.N. is ineffectual, as is the World Court. Boycotts will only
Take you so far. Eventually we (collective we) will end up in a shooting war if Trump has his way.
Cancelling the Arrow had the effect of cancelling Canada's world class aviation industry. My RCAF family despised Diefenbaker and the Conservatives for doing that.
@@brianrichard8310 With 38m people, we were never going to be a world class power. I am sorry to hear your life hasn't worked out for you.
I was a sonar technician during Reagan years...worked with our P3’s and LAMPS Helo’s ... “drop on MAD, now, now, now....buoy away” 🥰
best years i can remember working on and flying in that aircraft in Greenwood, 75-80, 86 they chopped them up
Our family lived in Greenwood from 1967 to 1973 and my Dad also worked on the Argus.
I was there 72-75 on 405 Sqn.
I was posted to 404 Sqn to bring in the Aurora in 80.
Without social media and smartphones, people back then could pay attention to their work and get the job done right. ;)
ok boomer
@@kenetickups6146 crooked touch screen virtual kid
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They were still brain washed through academia and controlled to serve their master . NOW the NWO and Bill Gatekeeper of Sheol want to chip us all and make us puppets to play with ! It's all WAR PIG games and it is sick ! Amein!
mark demell Thank you cia
This was amazing !! My father spent most of his adult life in one of those and he loved every min !
I remember him.
Canadair also built the F-86, T-33, F-104, and F-5 under licence for the RCAF, as well as the Tutor trainer designed in house.
I love the acting when they are having technical discussions, corny but still interesting information. Even back then, with very pompous and dramatic music, you could hear the narrator better than most YT videos of today...
@NFB, Thank you very much for the upload!
The music at 0:25 is like Jaws or... War of the Worlds (2005).
What a magnificent documentary from the u.s.a well done Canada
my grandpa flew on this plane as the navagator, maybe ill fly the Cp 107 argus soon
Pretty sure the only shortcoming of the Argus was that it would often run out of oil before it ran out of fuel 😅🥲🇨🇦
wow...that sure brings back memories, I used to work the NAF flight line in the Azores back in 76 and when an Argus flew in...the crew would give us all their beer and perishable food.
Hard to understand the thumbs down on this video.....
Remember When. Canada used to actually build stuff?? I work at a car plant in Brampton, Ontario. We have an on-site stamping plant, and all our processes are from raw parts to a finished car. Very few pre-assembled parts. We do it all. That’s what Canada used to be. Bearing in mind a lot of our parts come from China. But a lot don’t, they come from places like Cambridge and Guelph, On and Michigan in the US. Some (engine blocks) come from Mexico, our friends to the way south. So, see these videos and remember what was.
Developed into the CL-44 freighter with a swing tail. Britain converted the Comet airliner into the successful Nimrod maritime patrol aircraft
and Lockheed did the same when it turned the Electra into the Orion.
Still prefer the RAF’s old ASW Shackleton’s. Based on the WWII Lancaster Bomber. The four Merlin engines sounded so sweet. Still in service with the RAF in Scotland 🏴 until the early ’80’s. Often referred to as “100,000 Rivets flying in Close Formation” 🇬🇧✈️😁.
I would love to know if that model remains, in the polished mahogany it must look stunning!
22.40 relief expected a bang. See exhale of breath on his face haha love it
To bad our aerospace industry has gone to hell in a hand basket. If the government had kept Air Force air craft purchasing strictly Canadian after the CF100 Canuck and ignored the USA pressure we could have been a world leader in military aircraft design.
Torpedo drops were fun!
The WS was large enough for the entire squadron to muster for the annual photo. Too bad I can't post that photo here.
Haaaa... When we used to build things, complicated things.
Love the computer the size of a yacht that can perform _thousands of calculations every few seconds.”_
"THOUSANDS!!"
And it had lots of lights.
And you could heat up your lunch on top of it.
Scott Paris I always wondered if the blinking lights were just a Hollywood prop but they actually served a purpose. When the program code got to a certain step a particular light would come on to indicate the progress. If it got caught in an endless loop that would be evident at a glance.
Best part: the Nixie tube display!
cerberus1981 The last time I was in Japan I saw they had a resurgence of old-school stereo amplifiers and turntables. Lots of glowing tubes out in the open, gold plated cases, and those Nixie tubes!
I just love the acting. LOL!
Do any of these Aircraft examples still around today that fly
None remain airworthy. But several are preserved at flight museums. The rest were scrapped.
Awesome video. The guys back then just got on with the job. A change only required 3 weeks and was pretty much approved on the spot. Modern complexity doesn’t really allow that though.
One of these flew over us when i was on the weather ships in the Pacific
When we rejoined the fuselage with the wings on 717 in Greenwood's museum parking lot, we didn't have the benefit of alignment jigs... but we did OK. Not that she's ever gonna fly again...
Good show,
Great archive!
made at canadair in cartierville ( ville StLaurent Montreal) P.Q.Canada!)
Short sleeved white shirts, black ties and smoking pipes in the computer room.
And, as far as I could tell, only one woman in the entire movie.
As it should be....
Have you been to an engineering school lately? It hasn't changed in that respect all that much.
She made great sandwiches.
@Big Bill O'Reilly Jesus imagine being this dumb...
@Big Bill O'Reilly Gotta be a bot, can't even string a sentence together..
Room has been found for radar ! Looks like they added room .
Mimicked technology from Sperm whales .The plane is actually named after a Greek god with a thousand eye! WAR ,what is it good for? Absolutely nothing ! Amein.
Excellent!👍
It's big - but I would hardly call it a 'giant'...even in its day.
Also - the Bristol Britannia (that the Argus was based on) had turboprops, not jets (as the video stated).
An interesting way to make a video...all the acting from (I assume) the real people involved in the manufacture.
Thanks for posting this video.
Most black and white movies showing Canadian military aircrafts showed aircrafts made in Canada. Canadair, DeHaviland, avro. Now it's America and Brazil.
I am really surprised that the flight crew elected tp suck up the landing gear on 1st flight. Pretty risky move on their part!
Though obviously a scripted documentary, it is a well told story of this obscure aircraft. More importantly, it tells the story of the many challenges of new aircraft production.
Now if only there was a similar one for Avro with the arrow.
I have this on VHS. Wonder where the wind tunnel model is now? garbage dump? Sure wish I could've see one flying, they were a bit before my time.
Love the cigars and pipes that the engineers are smoking. Not allowed anymore in the workplace.
Wonder who has that beautiful Mahogany model now
Pipe-smoking pencil wielding engineers with solid 3D models, backed up by a very attractive assistant with a vacuum-tube-based computer... those were the days... and the result was a hell of an airplane. Anyone who looks sideways at the Canadians, an all-too common failing in the Lower 48, undershorts the capabilities of that nation in fielding a terrific military, to say nothing of living so far north that winter is a serious factor, not just a few months of inconvenience south of their border with the US.
Very cool. Thanks!
Seems like a military version of the Bristol Brittania.
That's exactly what it was - with Wright R3350 turbo-compound piston engines for endurance.
briggsquantum at the expense of reliability
It's said at the beginning, and shown too, with the transformations parts of the fuselage to receive the detection and observation systemes.
Britannia was a very beautiful plane... But she came too late : the commercial jets won the market. Sad...
@@andremetayer1467 Yes a Bristol Britannia, but NOT Jet power plants, they were Bristol Siddeley Proteus Turboprops...
@@packtech Of course ! my english is not so good ... I meant that the Britannia arrived too late, faced with the arrival of commercial jets ... Am I correct ?
Hey, remember when the Canadian military was actually a formidable force?
Yes, the Crown paid for the military of it's entire empire.
@Chesty McStudmuffin no that was general George Washington when he took over the airports during the revolutionary war!! President trump said so!! And he wouldn't tell a lie!! Just some alternative facts maybe!
@@sorleymcsorley5558 Still makes me smile everytime i hear "alternate facts". Conway does have a vivid imagination. No brains, but a vivid imagination.
@Chesty McStudmuffin Actually 1812. When we kicked your ass and sent you back accross the border.
@Nobby Barnes Agreed. Yokel: A backwoods term meaning inbred nosepicking knuckdragger.
Seems like it would have been easier to take a B-29 and mod it to fit purposes.
Love that computer... gotta get me one of those....
Your smartphone has more capability than those computers.
@@markwilliams7712 Surely you jest. My smartphone fits in my pocket, but this computer takes up half a room....
@@KenPaulsenArchitect You think thats bad? My father worked in the SAGE complex, and their computer took up 85% of all floor space, and the building was several stories, even below ground.
@@brianrichard8310 So.... what's a computer like that go for these days? I can shuffle the couch around and maybe sell the dinette set.... Been planning to upgrade from my TRS-80 and don't want to make a bad choice...
@@KenPaulsenArchitect If you want to do some deep, deep "dumpster diving", head to your nearest municipal dump, and dig. You should reach that layer in about . . 30 years.
its also such a shame today we cant get cooperation to build these same projects anymore ....
Bill Shaver - That's because of the great Conservative Leader John Deif! He cancelled and then destroyed the AVRO CF 105 Arrow project and then told the Americans we would not go it alone on future projects! That's why we end up with American castoffs instead of building our own defence needs!
Why can't Bombardier build aircraft for the RCAF.
@@mafmaf6417 Seriously Bombardier can't even build aircraft for themselves.
@@matthewq4b no they can make aircraft. They just needed money from another company besides the Federal government.
25:22 If those are supposed to be tool boxes, they must be empty, the way they are carrying them around like they weigh nothing.
Mahogany body model , wouldn't Maple be more appropriate 😁
Oddly satisfying.
5:55 I didn't know D-FENS was Canadian.
Based around the Bristol Britannia, which was turbo prop powered, not 'jet engined', aka gas turbines.
The term "air-screw" is actually very descriptive of what a propeller does. I wonder why its use fell out of fashion.
Apparently, these guys didn't believe in windows for their office spaces ;)
Great, and sad, to see what the aircraft industry in Canada was doing!
The crew must had to have reserves of stamina to fly the missions asked of them . The Aircraft could go for something like 20 hrs before running out of gas [ no air to air refuelling capability ] .. Between the hours of sitting in those seats and the noise I bet they were rready to kiss the ground when they would fly from Comox to Hawaii.. I remember them flying from CFB Comox back in the 60's when Canada had enough aircraft to use the base there to some capacity / The Voodoos would go over Denman Island in formation at 500ft , quite the sight ! . Now it has maybe one CF18 on alert plus a couple of Aurora ASW ,
This was all before Canada turned itself into Northern Venezuela.
Maximus Minimus: liberal government affliction...
...and 12 years later, the US landet on the moon . Great progress,indeed !
I’m always amazed at the lack of safety equipment in these old days.
Pat Most safety equipment these days is to keep the bosses safe not necessarily the worker.
People didn’t used to be so dumb. They didn’t need someone holding their hand all the time. They still don’t. The Government insists on inserting themselves in every aspect of our lives. They think they are smart and we aren’t. Actually, it’s the other way around.
@@efs83dws , You're missing the point. I worked in industry for 45 years, and I tell you that I WANT the safety equipt. and I'm glad it's required nowadays. I've seen too many industrial accidents to scoff at safety requirements. It may be a PIA sometimes, but I still have all my fingers & two good eyes.
The good old days when nobody cared if we smoked 3 or 4 cigars a day in the office!
Sounds like Cyberdynes at it again......
Anybody else see the B-17 nose and tail. Looks like an updated B-17 design.
Looks like a cross between a B29 and a Tu95.
As a kid I used to see these land and takeoff at Moncton.
Bring back the nimrod - they dropped a bollock scrapping the updated version in my opinion.
Never thought of the Hosers as being great engineers... This is fascinating
John C. Garand, designer of the M1 battle rifle of WW2 was Canadian.
And you should have seen the Electrohome TV's!
@@BELCAN57 Interesting...
Weird that we didn’t sell these to any other countries. Opportunity lost.
Increase the Mode
This engine is a scenario that has always baffled me. We go from piston to jet and step back to turbo prop for a compromise on speed and efficiency
It's a case of the more gas efficient engine of the time. Jets were pigs on fuel, and the patrols were very long. In some cases 5-6 hours at a stretch. No pilot could have done more with the rigs of that era.
@@brianrichard8310 And if necessary you can shut an engine down and feather the prop. Really stretches the plane's endurance.
@@BELCAN57 Good point. Thanks.
Worked pretty well for the Russians. Still does AFIK - the Bear. It’s a good setup for endurance.