Quick Tip-Throttle Cleaning - EricTheCarGuy
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2009
- This one goes out to BowlingBallOut who posted a question about a sticky throttle on his Saturn. It was a great question so I decided to make this video in response to it. There are many different configurations of throttle assemblies but for the most part if you have a throttle that is sticking you might be able to fix it using the procedures in this video. I am aware you may not able to purchase spray throttle cleaner in some states now but I'm sure they have some alternative available at your local parts store.
One very important note here is that if you have a drive by wire throttle (DBW), then I do NOT recommend this procedure. If you perform this procedure on a DBW throttle body you may need to have the throttle reset in order to get your engine to idle or even start. I only recommend this procedure if you're trying to correct a problem with a sticking throttle.
If you have idle problems, I recommend you check out this article on my website.
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Doing this stopped my car from stalling while coming to a stop. Best thing ever. 👍🏻🇦🇺
If it is stalling you also need to clean your MAFS.
@MrMdezee If someone adjusted the idle screw I would recommend turning it back to where it was originally and then checking for vacuum leaks. If you suspect an IAC problem replace it, I haven't had any luck cleaning them.
I just watched this video, 11 years later. Eric is just a little youngster ! I love the ETCG videos. Keep them coming Eric. They're vey helpful.
Dang, they were gonna charge me close to 300 bucks at the dealership lol. Thanks for the video, man!
Literally, I love RUclips fr
that is extreme.$ they wiped mine for zero$ at mechanics, i gave him the can of seafoam cleaner.crc maf sensor cleaner works good+ safely.
Great videos Eric! My tip to you is to use a toothbrush instead of the rag. They do a great job and looks brand new when your finished. On fly by wire cars, make sure the ignition is off before moving the throttle plate.Also don't forget to use nitrile gloves when working to stop the skin from absorbing grease dirt and chemicals.
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I don't have a red rag, will it still work with a blue rag?
Noo you need the red one
+Lilpandabear98 well too late now, used the blue rag and my trunk fell off and my tires over inflated. Yikes.
+boofighter damn hopefully the blue one fixeses that😉😂
lmao
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Wow... Thank you. I've been wondering why my pedal was sticking for the last three years. Didn't think about looking at the throttle since it felt like the problem was the pedal sticking. Awesome advice.
I appreciate very much the advice given in this video, and especially to those commenters who warned about not manually moving the butterfly valve on a drive-by-wire car, like my '03 Accord. I never would have known that could be harmful to it, so a big "thank you" to all who mentioned it!
HOWDY ERICTHECARGUY...I have a 92 crown vic lx, with 280,000kms on it. had the throttle sticking problem, didn't know what it was causing it to hesitate and even stall on the QE2 in Alberta. Saw your vid, man that throttle was completely covered in thick gunk, cleaned it out like you showed, and it works great now, now I have to change the belt, followed your instructions, another triumph, thanks eh!
Great job Eric. On my 2004 Chevy Trailblazer, I replaced the MAP due to OBD code. My acceleration increase and overall performance was great. Two days later, I got a P0106 code (MAP performance). Cleaning the throttle body was one of the suggestions. In fact, cleaning the throttle body every 30,000 miles or so helps. I can't remember the last time I did this on my SUV (205,000). So I was looking for a video that shows how to clean the throttle body without removing it (I'm not as young as I used to be :)). Thanks again for a quick and concise video.
This is especially helpful and even important with newer drive-by-wire throttle bodies. Since they're actuated by a small motor or similar, and tend to be taking the place of idle air control valves and the like, they cause a lot of odd problems when sticking. One problem being stalling only when starting the car warm. The throttle will get stuck closed and starve the engine. It also tends to make throttle response feel even more delayed than most drive-by-wire throttles are from the factory. Great tip Eric!
DANG!!! That was the easiest snorkel removal ever. I was fighting with mine for a while. Thank you for posting this!!
@tonytiger33 If you don't have a check engine light start with the basics like plugs and a fuel filter. DON'T start replacing sensors as they probably have nothing to do with it. You might also do a power balance test to see if you can find a particular cylinder that is at fault, I've done a video on this if that helps.
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1:42 Throttle body has a smiley face as a way of saying "thank you for cleaning me."
Macon 🤔
Thanks Eric The Car Guy for your simple and informative video on throttle body cleaning.
Hi Eric, your videos are awesome! I usually use Seafoam instead of TB cleaner and spray about 1/8 of a can in the intake as well. I leave it for about 10 minutes then start it up and let it run through. I've heard that this can actually plug your catalytic converter. I've also heard that it cleans the catalytic? What's your thought on this?
Hey Eric...excellent video once again! You've inspired me and others to start making videos, so much so that I made my first Push to Start Button Auto DIY Tutorial! Thanks so much for the inspiration, and keep doing what you're doing! You're great!
I like the throttle cleaner from CRC. They make great products! Thank you for this video and about the coating on certain throttle bodies. Take care.
Dude!you always have the best vids when I need. clear and helpful always!! peace.
Nice video
those side bruns are majestic
those side burns... yuk... I guess, if you like them.
how can you not like them
That's fine .. You like them... Do your thing. I don't care for side burns..
What is a side brun?
1SlowAss96Ram yep if he became a mechanic
it's not really nec. to take the throttle body off. With an old tooth brush and some cleaner you can clean the throttle plate and the area where the throttle plate contacts the body without removal. If you remove it you may be into a gasket replacement or coolant hose leakage (if yours has coolant hoses to it)
But in this way all Carbon enter further into Engine or Carburetor or Combustion Chamber
Thank you. I have a Toyota Avalon 2004 that had a sticking accelerator. I saw how you did it. I did it too. My car looked a bit different under the hood. I am an old guy who used to take out the carburetor and clean it 50 years ago. I didn't realize that the same type technology was in modern cars. I didn't even have to use a tooth brush to fix the problem. Thanks again.
Appreciate your straightforward directions and clear video on car care. Your piece on throttle body cleaning was especially helpful. Thanks much for your efforts!! You saved me big $$$.
Owner: 2005 Mazda Tribute S V6 4 x 4
2007 Toyota Solara V6 Convertible
KND Northern NJ
Good video, the best product to use to clean out throttle bodies is the ThreeBond Engine Conditioner. Heat the engine to running temp first then turn off the engine and take the hose from the throttle body. Spray the engine conditioner into the throttle body and it will foam up and clean all gummed up areas. It also lubricates the throttle body. Start the engine and spray the rest of the can through and it will clean the complete combustion chamber. It is a complete carbon clean in a can.
I feel like I can do this myself now! Thank you!!!
damn, there's a lot of corrosion on those battery terminals
Thanks Eric! I just cleaned mine out & the throttle is nice & smooth. It was slightly stuck a few days ago and then my IACV started acting up- I'm guessing the gunk from the throttle body may have gotten into the IACV & fouled it up
i find a brick on the pedal helps keep the throttle plate open
I knew a Ford dealer that used to do this to Problem Lincoln and ford Mercury that were on the edge of warrantee because of bearing knock. Ford would call the noisy engine normal. Well was not normal after that ''' 80FNot so sure if it would work on this application thought although id would solve the throttle body issue. 8)
I use the steering wheel lock.
doesn't work on all cars'! I've tried it at my Lexus GS bot no chance!
Where's the brick having a hard time looking for a brick on my petal
@@fabuloso3635 or you could use a long stick or a broom or something long, put it between the seat and the pedal, and move the seat colser to the steering wheel, all the while the long object will depress the pedal for you.
This is one way.
And the mechanic tried charging me 300 for this.. thank you so much brother
Thanks for the video! Had a check engine on my wife's Hyundai and it was the throttle body. Gave it a clean with the video (was my first time doing this) and the car runs great and check engine light is off. Thanks!
Great to have you back my man!! Great job as always
Damn dude your videos are like crack, i was up all night, think i watched like 30 of em lol.. Good stuff bro!
We've all been there...
Its good shit
Like cocaine
Dude.. u sit and watch crack all night?
i noticed you've been away for a while.. that's a long time between binges
Sea Foam fuel system cleaner and a tooth brush works well. I always use an old toothbrush anyway.
Thanks. I was wondering exactly that, because I have some Seafoam, but I don't have throttle cleaner.
Video's much appreciated. I'm not exactly a car guy, and this helped me get the job done. For what it's worth, I live in NY and bought aerosol TB cleaner no problem.
Thank you Erik!
I have found all your videos extremely helpful!
Keep them coming....
@JammerEd2 Honestly this video was never meant for electronic throttles as you would not 'feel' the throttle sticking on those. The truth is that I don't recommend doing this to an electronic throttle. Thanks for the comment.
do not move the butterfly with your hand on modern cars , it will mes up the position censor calibration
NOBOX7 how do u move it to clean inside it
Tobias Jn. Pierre on new cars you turn the ignition on but dont start the car then have some body press the gas peddle and it will open . or you can remove the throttle body from the engine
Thank you, I remove it from the car today
nice tip
Can I move it on a NB Miata ? Planning to clean it this weekend
You give me a lot of useful info. A big thank you to Mr, ERICtheCARguy. Explanation easy to understand theory & practical. Once again double thumbs up to you for your excellent presentation.
Hey Eric, i would love to see a video on the P0302 Code - Cylinder #2 Misfire!
Thanks for all the good videos!
That battery terminal needs help😢 its cry my boiii 😂
HOLY CORRODED BATTERY TERMINAL BATMAN!!!
Thank God for this video, clear flood mode, never heard of that! Sure thing though, started up after a few seconds and a few trys of flooring the pedal. Thank you!
Good Advice! I have seen this basic service fix many problems.
If you want to do it right way you have to take the throttle out of the car and clean it, so you can make sure the whole throttle is clean.
Dear Eric,
Before asking my question, I would like to thank you for your videos. I have watched them all and I am one of your video fans.
Can I spray lacquer thinner instead of spray throttle cleaner your mentioned. Lacquer thinners are much cheaper to purchase and I have used them cleaning gummy stuff and works real good. My concern is whether Lacquer thinner can cause and internal problem for the engine or the injectors. Thank you
BOOM!
Lacquer thinner will destroy any plastics/polymers as well as lubrication/seals on the throttle body shaft. It could also damage the TPS/IAC or other sensors. I would not use it myself, but if you have no choice I would be very careful with it. And I certainly would not spray it down into the throttle body/intake manifold.
@ Dacke,
Thank you for your kindness and sincerely advice..
Dacke Hey, i just said that.
It worked like a charge you are a great teacher thanks, I had this problem after changing my serpentine belt and automatic tensioner and pulley idler which I also watch how to change from your channel my engine light even went off thanks again.
Thanks for I really like your method of just removing the snorkel tube. Most other videos have you take out the airbox and a lot of vacuum hoses. I live in California and yes aerosol cleaners are available here.
that's ok for mechanical throttles isn't it problematic for electronically controlled throttles to move them manually?
Dusty Korpse Yes, read the description, he specifically states this procedure is for direct mechanical TBs and not be used for DBW or E-TBs
Dusty Korpse just get someone to press accelerator pedal it will open
Paddy Wynne not so simple, it is electric and the motor must be running.
@@billwilson6096 if you are cleaning your etb while its on say goodbye to your finger smh
krodie you sent your warning to the wrong B. W. I’ve learned over the years to be careful where I stick my fingers.
They sell throttle body cleaners at your local Autozone or Oreilly auto parts. Stuff works great. Always disconnect battery when working on a engine.
Most cases but not always I would say...
Raul, before you give this advice, you should consider BMW, and maybe some other brands. If you disconnect the battery, you have to re enter the radio security code before the radio works again. What about the readers of this who don't have their radio code and don't realize they will need it after batt disconnect? You can hook up a temporary 12v supply before you disconnect the battery to save the radio code if you had the knowledge. I wouldn't disconnect battery for most throttle body cleanings.
That happened on my acura, had to go to the dealer to get the code :/ but hey they'll need to disconnect the battery eventually
Arthur Swails Really? BMW's are so dumb you have to enter the code everytime you disconnect the battery? Well on Audi's only if you put the radio in another car only then you enter the code.
2000 Honda Civic EK
Just did this outside in like 25 mins time, cold air intake nuts n bolts.. Cleaned the inside as far as i could, sprayed with the throttle valve cleaner a honest amount... Started it with full throttle and the beast is back alive :D Big up Eric!! Pretty sure its because of the full throttle during start, sputtered out the excess n' bout to see if it made a difference!!
Love the videos m8
Timeless video. And here to do the job and see how to. Thank you Eric.
1:39 my dad gave me same advice when I was 12, Thanks dad.
Or you can get a red rag and clean 🙊🙊🙊
TPS, throttle position sensor, cannot be cleaned. They are a sealed unit. They should not be taken apart and cleaned. They are a precision sensor and should not be messed with.
Butthurt
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Oldie but goodie always looking for my answers in your video library. Thanks Eric, Ive been subbed since geeze when you were in your garage.
Hello I have a quick question. The other day I ran some cleaner through my intake vacuum line. There was a backfire that sounded like a small firecracker. Other than that everything went fine. My question is, what is the chance that there was damage to any seals, rods etc.?
Everything is illegal in california....
Richard Cowtails buds not
Yep that's why Cali sucks! I'm here, should really move, I know.
You can always move to someplace dirty and unhealthy.
Jer M area has fumes known to the state of California to cause cancer, it says so near the entrance of the boarding gate in the airport, what is the point?!?!
If you breathe, that will be a $1,000 fine.
can i use a can of buttery non stick baking spray? i swear some of the questions in the comments....
lmao!
J k Glover Not too worried about gluten, but I need Kosher TB cleaner...😂
Well you can... But should you?
eric i love your videos bro they have helped me so much working on my pontiac grand am thanks
Finally a video on this problem. Thank you! very much Eric.
I would personally recommend removing the throttle body completely. I remove all electronics (IAC, TPS, etc..) and clean all the passages. The TB cleaner shouldn't damage the sensors and valves (IAC) but if I'm cleaning something I'm doing it 100%.
Definitely pay attention to removing all the buildup around the edges of the butterfly valve, that's where it will stick the most. And don't use anything abrasive to clean internally, a nylon bristle brush is ok, NO steel wire!!
Now if you are still having a problem with throttle response then I'd look at the throttle cable. Just like the hood latch cable it's braided wire that will stretch and when it's stretched the butterfly in the TB won't fully open. There are the cheap zip tie tricks, but just replace the cable, not worth a snapped cable at WOT!!
Really good advice! Thank u so much! My ,2091 dodge neon started stalling a month ago while! Usually after I drove it 15 miles it would stall and stutter a few times, then straiten back out And drove fine! It did that a few weeks then today while I was driving home it just died, while driving down the road, and won't start back now! It cranks but won't start! And I listened at the gas tank to see if the fuel pump kicks in when my friend turned the key over, the fuel pump came on and makes a whining noise! Do u no what can cause my car to stutter then die and not start back! Thank u so very much 😊😊
Sorry it's a 2001 dodge neon, and if it's the fuel filter can that be changed without changing the fuel pump! I heard the fuel filter was made in the pump and have to change the whole fuel pump! Thank u so much
Becky Justice Do you run your tank below 1/4 full often? More than likely your fuel pump is done for but you can try a filter first.
Thank u so much Tanner! I kinda had a feeling it might be the fuel pump! I went out the next morning and it started right up like nothing was ever wrong with it! But still has the stalling after driving 15 miles and still wants to quit when I come to a stop on inclines! And when I turn the key I can hear the fuel pump kicks on for a few seconds! Thank u so much for all your help Tanner! I really appreciate it
I love you so much for this, I just watched another video and he told me to take it completely off
Your positive battery terminal looks pretty bad and needs to be cleaned.
really, in the last 25 years I never see battery get so foul. Eric must be doing something WRONG. Batterys don't vent and leak like the 70's, how can that corrosion be normal?
Clean the terminals, wires, etc.. and put a thin layer of dielectric grease over everything. I've never had a hint of corrosion.
PAying attention to the video, we know it isnt Eric's car AND we also cant assume he hasnt made a ton of videos about this car specifically.
galvanic reaction, maybe the wrong type of metal on the terminal clamp.
My idle hangs for a few seconds on my 91' 5.0 when I rev it. I cleaned the TB today thinking it would help, but it didn't. Any advice?
can I do this to a honda? I always take out the throttle body before spraying carb/tb cleaner on it. BTW great videos and many thanks for sharing your knowledge.
that positive terminal!!!!!
Fucking right dude.i just kept looking at it trying to watch eric screw with the trottle
to clean you can use throttle body & air intake cleaner (stp) or mass air flow sensor cleaner auto zone
Eric you are right on everything I've seen of yours but I would do this different. I use CRC products whenever I can. If you ever see what happens when throttle body cleaner does to plastic when they come in contact with each other the plastic will crack. Most intake manifolds are plastic. I've always just taken the tb off cleaned it and covered tps sensor and actuator motor so that they don't get wet.
I used baby wipes or wet wipes and did pretty well.
What's nice about my Chevy is that I can just remove the throttle body with 2 10mil bolts and clean it off the engine.
Stay clean bro use some latex gloves silly.
Having this issue myself! Knew what it was form the beginning though, cleaning the thing out tonight...
Tnks for your videos, very helpful.....Can u make a video explaining how to check a throttle Body of ford expedition 2003 4.6L ......I heard that we have to take it out and cleaned then put a flash light and see if this have some gap and bla bla bla.....I dont know really.....help me on that please.....car gas 149,000 miles on it.....and have Idle hesitation intermittently.
Thanks EricTheCarGuy....stay dirty man!
i just used WD-40
that wont work thats designed to lubricate not clean
nice try
dont. dont do that.
lol things like TB and MAF are special. Dont wanna spray anything that leaves residue. WD40 leaves residue and will build up and possibly do damage to the motor. Besides, TB cleaner is just as expensive as WD40, no sense in NOT using the right stuff :P
Josh Johnson thank you for trying to make me look stupid by just using something i had around the house. a little wd40 isnt gunna hurt anything
OG Milkbag Uhhh, yeah, just spray a lubricant into the throttle of your engine, sending it directly into your engine. Would you open up your engine and spray wd40 to clean off oil? no...
Great tip on "clear flood mode" ! It is amazing how many people do NOT know this tip !!
I think you meant to say not to clean INSIDE Ford throttle bodies, meaning past the throttle plates. Scanner Danner and I have a difference of opinion on this, and you and I are on the same side !
I always clean all external linkages and pivot points
Thanks Eric. great job and thanks for the "over-spraying" warning. My usual method would be to use 1/2 a can just to "make-sure." A waste of product and not necessary.
This Eric Guy has dangerous side burn's.
DONT DO THIS ON DRIVE BY WIRE CARS! it will mess stuff up!
Nikita Wilcox , That's true. I heard that on cars model with drive-by-wire we have to step on the gas to open the throttle, instead. Otherwise , the computer will not function well. Can someone confirm this ? many thanks.
Budi R Yes, Budi, I've heard that. Watch this video for more info. It explains it. Good luc.
What's drive by wire?
AgentJucey Electronic throttle bodies. They usually have a module and/or driven by gears electronically. DO NOT MANUALLY OPEN THEM! They will mess up. Ask me how I know!
AgentJucey Drive by wire means there is no mechanical connection from the accelerator to the throttle body. It's done by electronics through your wiring harness, thus drive by wire. It's been used by commercial airliners for many years and is a proven technology.
Hello Eric, I have a 96 Saturn SL2 with a P0401 "EGR insufficient flow" trouble code that I can't get rid of. I bought new EGR valve and then I sprayed the two passages below the EGR valve with throttle body cleaner also. I also tried starting the engine a few times with the EGR valve removed. I tried shoving a coat hanger in there, did not get too far as it is too stiff but then I was able to shove a Ziptie in there for a good 12 inches. I reset the PCMB and cleared the code but the P0401 code comes back after driving 35 miles. Is there any other place I need to clean out on the Saturn engine to fix the flow restriction? By the way, every time I clear the code by removing the PCMB fuse for a few minutes, the check engine light (CEL) will come back on the next day at exactly 35 miles on my drive home.
Opening the throttle manually on some cars, especially those with Drive by wire can cause them to lose the idle settings.
its best to remove the throttle and spray from both sides without moving the plate.
Joe Guzman, I have a quick question. I changed the spark plugs and I unplugged the throttle body to clean on my ‘08 Sienna, now the car doesn’t even idle. It runs for 5 seconds then shuts off. Do I have to reset and relearn the throttle body?
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what???
Chrisfix is the type of guy you want to get car reparations and tips from he knows what hes doing, i dont trust this guy. I recommend chrisfix better
Have you seen my channel yet by any chance?
Eric And Chris are really good friends actually. They both know what they are doing and honestly Eric is probably more knowledgeable seeing as he is older
I don't think age can dictate wisdom...
South Main Auto Repair No I just mean experience wise :) I watched your video of the dodge with electrical issues, that was pretty good :) You should try to promote yourself and get yourself out there!
Oh I see haha... well I can only do what I can ya know, unless you know a way to promote I think it is more of a wait and hope people find you game.
Damn didnt even know this video is 11 years old, Eric's a veteran youtuber 👍good video and tips even from back then
I just used rubbing alcohol and Air Flow Sensor cleaner. And some Q-tips and paper towels. It's best to do it when you don't have to drive anywhere afterward that day. So do it at the end of the day and let your car sit overnight before starting so the chemicals can evaporate and throttle can air dry overnight. Otherwise you'll take a chance of trouble starting and/or the chemicals flowing your exhaust.
Thanks for that quick tip, Eric! You’re the guy! #staydirty
-Paolo from CA
On some cars, there is a placard that says DO NOT CLEAN THE THROTTLE BODY. I wondered this and my Acura manual says it is because the molybdenum coating on the throttle shaft may be removed by applying throttle cleaner. So the manual says to use a rag dipped in solvent/cleaner and clean the throttle body but avoid cleaning the both ends of the shaft.
I remove the throttle body for cleaning, but the nuisance is that I need to have a new gasket ready.
I’m in New York and I was able to pick up an aerosol can of throttle body cleaner from my local advanced. Thanks for the video!
If small motor is energised ie, still plugged in , gear reduction set and massive torque may remove end of cleaning finger in ETB , may want to unplug first also possibly remove negative off battery... good luck
Doesnt matter if a lot goes through, sea foam works great. You can also keep the vehicle idling about 1500 rmps while spraying into the throttle body.
awesome videos, love it, keep up the great work!
I've often used an old toothbrush to help clean small/hard to get areas in conjunction with various cleaners, it helps to remove the harder to clean debrits etc... 👍
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hi.. I really need your help... after I did my throttle cleaning my rpm high 1600 tpm 1700 for few sec and back to normal only happen when start uo... thank you so much
That's good. Cars try to idle high when first started cold.
Eric the car guy is a genious, my car it's running fine thanks to you man!!
eric need help, i got a code p0191 on my hyundai, fuel rail pressure low, when i replace it with a new on whe i started it it wont start, when i scan it, it shows code p0193 or pressure high what do you think is the problem?
when i spray that cleaner in my throttle it mess up my throttle position sensor
My accord 2007 2.4 rpm go up and down when cold start goes back to normal when engine warms up. Also has a bucking when for of the gas pedal and rpm go up and down same time. Could be the throttle body? I cleaned it but no changes. No codes
hi bud i dun a carb convershion to a camaro 305 tbi but the holley 600 cmf keeps fluding out thanks
First time bumping into your channel, and this was a very useful, to-the-point video. Thanks for putting it out there! Liked & subscribed
If you flood the engine will your engine keep reviving up? Cus mine jumps to 3000 to 4000 rpm as soon as I turn it on now
Lol post facto, I was thinking "rebel snorkel?" to your small biff in the beginning