I am a single no longer a member of the church and I can tell you this is it's very true . Every time I've gone on a Mormon dating site the majority of the men are married. Every time I go to a church dance the men are looking for a hookup in the parking lot. Wife swapping, swingers swapping it's nothing new
@@tienmou68 What, Wait, Gospel? the book of morons has nothing to do with the Gospel according to Jesus and if the church you're referring to is LDS . . . can you spell cult?
I think the same is true in Evangelical and Catholic culture, it’s the “purity culture”. Though we don’t believe in eternal marriages. 🤷🏼♀️ I have heard that there is a higher likelihood of genetic disorders in babies born in areas with higher LDS populations, due to the lack of genetic diversity. Edited to add, Hasidic culture and Amish communities also have similar issues. 😢
I appreciate you covering this. I watched 2 episodes. My take away is that these women are using social media and the show to make lots of money to pay for plastic surgery and hair extensions. Apparently just mentioning swinging has gotten them more followers, a reality show, and $$$. Just my take.
Sorry, I have been trained to push that like button 😂 so you will probably have to watch it. In the spirit of support though I will watch an episode. I just need my popcorn heavy with butter and a good bottle of wine.
If a woman wants to marry her second husband , after she has been divorced , in the temple, she has to get a consultation of ceiling first. If the man wants to marry a woman after his divorce in the temple he does not have to do anything so a man can be sealed to multiple women in the temple where the woman can only be sealed to one man
A little unclear as to what soft swapping is. From watching lots of Mormon stories episodes, I learned about the strict rules regarding how women must dress. As I understand it the Cox family had standing in the church. How was that even possible with the way the women in the family all dressed. Bikinis, sleeveless tops, lots of leg showing. How were they given a pass by their church/community for all that? BTW love your podcasts!
Brigham and Heber started polygamy. Joseph did not nor had anything to do with it. One of the reasons his friends put him away. That and the issue that Joseph was ordaining black men to the priesthood and was anti-slavery while the others were proslavery. Other than that I agree with your comments. Thanks.
I think it's just marrying young and the covenants. It is just a step to divorce. 😂 But more than anything, it is just the sexual obsession. You are pure until marriage and then have no clue or experience once married. Sex is just the root of what screws us all up!!😂
Your whole reason for leaving the church is based on a lie that someone told you that you believed. The Lord loves you. Please seek out the the whole truth. Research the church historian Don Bradley who also had a faith crisis and then came back. Please stop perpetuating the lie that destroyed your faith.
It’s not a lie, it’s literally on the church website in the gospel topic essays. Click all the way through the footnotes. Read the first hand accounts of the women. Then ask yourself if your daughter or granddaughter was treated the way Joseph treated those women, what would your reaction have been?
I’m a little confused because Mormonism isn’t really a Christian faith as fat as I was taught a huge reason was their book said the savior sat at the LEFT hand of God the Father which scholars figure that Lucifer had as the worship leader until the fall where he became known as the devil eventually. Also I would not put a ton of stock in the Jehovah’s Witnesses text as when a nice lady came by one day we started comparing and much of text was either omitted or revised to remove many of the wonderful meanings in scriptures. Basically in the few verses we looked at in the New Testament the wonder and miracles had been neutered from the text making it “believable “ but not accurate. It’s almost like once people thought miracles were a sure thing but got disappointed and so they removed them so nobody would be disappointed anymore. Stripping the hope out of the Word of God. Terribly unfortunate because even though we don’t always get the miracle we want or would like to be robbed of hope is a travesty.
@tienmou68 this is your second warning. Calling someone a liar and saying their info came from an ignoramous is inflammatory and not conducive to peaceful discourse. Challenge the argument, not the person.
Add an ex Mormon who was married in the temple I can confirm that the Mormon Church believes that men will continue practicing polygamy in heaven
That's why so many of the dudes stick around!
I am a single no longer a member of the church and I can tell you this is it's very true . Every time I've gone on a Mormon dating site the majority of the men are married. Every time I go to a church dance the men are looking for a hookup in the parking lot. Wife swapping, swingers swapping it's nothing new
@@tienmou68 What, Wait, Gospel? the book of morons has nothing to do with
the Gospel according to Jesus and if the church you're referring to is LDS . . .
can you spell cult?
LDS people refer to their doctrine as "The Gospel of Jesus Christ"
@tienmou68 This is an assumption which is 1) a misrepresentation of what I said and 2) ignorant of factual information.
@tienmou68 what great advice
Think of the last names. There are a LOT of reoccurring names!😂
I think the same is true in Evangelical and Catholic culture, it’s the “purity culture”. Though we don’t believe in eternal marriages. 🤷🏼♀️ I have heard that there is a higher likelihood of genetic disorders in babies born in areas with higher LDS populations, due to the lack of genetic diversity. Edited to add, Hasidic culture and Amish communities also have similar issues. 😢
I keep seeing people talk about this wild show. Purity culture seems to lead to an obsession with sex revolving around guilt and shame…
I appreciate you covering this. I watched 2 episodes. My take away is that these women are using social media and the show to make lots of money to pay for plastic surgery and hair extensions. Apparently just mentioning swinging has gotten them more followers, a reality show, and $$$. Just my take.
I'd be perfectly happy with one good woman. I'm not that greedy or awesome enough to think i deserve more than one😅🥂
I’m forever grossed out by anything purity culture related …ugh it’s so gross 🤢
@@lamesafilipinofoodclub6202
Its not pure.
Sorry, I have been trained to push that like button 😂 so you will probably have to watch it. In the spirit of support though I will watch an episode. I just need my popcorn heavy with butter and a good bottle of wine.
A very sensible presentation on the subject.
Loved the video and, sorry, really looking forward to your commentary!
Thank you for watching it so we don't have to ❤️
If a woman wants to marry her second husband , after she has been divorced , in the temple, she has to get a consultation of ceiling first. If the man wants to marry a woman after his divorce in the temple he does not have to do anything so a man can be sealed to multiple women in the temple where the woman can only be sealed to one man
@tienmou68 I think she meant to say 'cancellation of sealing' . Please be respectful if you would like to keep your commenting privileges.
A little unclear as to what soft swapping is. From watching lots of Mormon stories episodes, I learned about the strict rules regarding how women must dress. As I understand it the Cox family had standing in the church. How was that even possible with the way the women in the family all dressed. Bikinis, sleeveless tops, lots of leg showing. How were they given a pass by their church/community for all that? BTW love your podcasts!
@@ginaross6382 in California in the 80s and 90s Mormons were more relaxed about modest attire and things like bikinis
Does Ivermectin work to get rid of the Mormon gaze?
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Easily one of the best explanations of life in Utah, where I grew up as a non-Mormon. Thanks for sharing
What is soft swinging I mean I know what swinging is but what is soft swinging I don't get that
I think soft swinging is just making out and no… P to V contact. But they did mention oral so I’m not so sure that’s very soft…
Brigham and Heber started polygamy. Joseph did not nor had anything to do with it. One of the reasons his friends put him away. That and the issue that Joseph was ordaining black men to the priesthood and was anti-slavery while the others were proslavery. Other than that I agree with your comments. Thanks.
It's on LDS dot org in the Gospel Topics Essays that JS started polygamy...
@@FleeingBabylon-Now You are correct. Polygamy was started by Brigham Young - Joseph never had anything to do with it and was never in Utah with them.
@@scrollerbill They love this lie
Hey have you guys read the gospel topics essays on LDS dot org?
I love hearing your insights and experiences. Thank you 💖
I think it's just marrying young and the covenants. It is just a step to divorce. 😂 But more than anything, it is just the sexual obsession. You are pure until marriage and then have no clue or experience once married. Sex is just the root of what screws us all up!!😂
I'm soft-podcasting😅🎉❤
I have watched a few episodes so far!!😂
Your whole reason for leaving the church is based on a lie that someone told you that you believed. The Lord loves you. Please seek out the the whole truth. Research the church historian Don Bradley who also had a faith crisis and then came back. Please stop perpetuating the lie that destroyed your faith.
It’s not a lie, it’s literally on the church website in the gospel topic essays. Click all the way through the footnotes. Read the first hand accounts of the women. Then ask yourself if your daughter or granddaughter was treated the way Joseph treated those women, what would your reaction have been?
@@Third_Verse can you cite your source? Link?
@@savagepeacemaker www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics-essays/plural-marriage-in-kirtland-and-nauvoo?lang=eng
I’m a little confused because Mormonism isn’t really a Christian faith as fat as I was taught a huge reason was their book said the savior sat at the LEFT hand of God the Father which scholars figure that Lucifer had as the worship leader until the fall where he became known as the devil eventually. Also I would not put a ton of stock in the Jehovah’s Witnesses text as when a nice lady came by one day we started comparing and much of text was either omitted or revised to remove many of the wonderful meanings in scriptures. Basically in the few verses we looked at in the New Testament the wonder and miracles had been neutered from the text making it “believable “ but not accurate. It’s almost like once people thought miracles were a sure thing but got disappointed and so they removed them so nobody would be disappointed anymore. Stripping the hope out of the Word of God. Terribly unfortunate because even though we don’t always get the miracle we want or would like to be robbed of hope is a travesty.
@tienmou68 this is your second warning. Calling someone a liar and saying their info came from an ignoramous is inflammatory and not conducive to peaceful discourse. Challenge the argument, not the person.