The "first corner" problem is a classic. The only thing we can do is stick to the inside and pray we don't end up on the outside of turn 2. I've come across late starters a few times. Sure, it's annoying, but it always amuses me how we go on autopilot and don’t anticipate situations like that xD
No kidding lol. Painful few races there. Yeah. Crazy to think that we expect everyone to move off lol. Once you realise there not moving it’s to late lol. Only crash into them once. First time I actually went face to face though.
@@Flashms I'm more curious about what happened that you had a 12-second lead over Mezi1107, and after your pit stop, he managed to gain a 10-second advantage.
It was great watching you actually fight a bit when it came to snatching 2 positions at once and before that bit when you were nudged in the rear in the braking zone. Other than those parts you were the usual consistent lap times and control benefitting off everyone who wasn't. good race at maple
my concern with adding more and more ghosting is at what point does it stop and you end up with just fully ghosted races. yes it’s frustrating when people spin in front or crash into you but you can’t just ghost in real life
If you are referring to the maple valley race. Then I think for people who fail to start should be ghosted then booted from the race. I mean what use are they besides a large paperweight lol.
@@Flashms i can understand to some extent the non starters but it just feels like everything gets ghosted now, fact you are ghosted in the practice lobbies now, ghosted of a car goes a bit to quickly into a corner (not deliberate ramming but unintentionally braking too late with an over speed) have a slight spin, feel like it just takes away art of driving and anticipating other drivers. I know it’s a simcade and not a sim but still feel like it would be good to keep it like this Talking of features i want team/relay racing
Yeah I do find your ghosted for everything. I sort of understand of tracks but I also feel that doesn’t need to be ghosted. But. If you rejoin and hit someone. Then automatically should receive a penalty for poor rejoin. That would be the way I would do it. Again others may argue about that one lol Ay your ghosted fully in practice ??? Yeah I found some cars randomly ghosted in corners and for no reason. Like you say you do need to be mindful of cars around you to. Then again I do miss the days when ghosting was minimal. Blocking that pit entrance was embarrassing but still so funny to see
In my opinion, if you want races that focus a lot more on race-craft then I would recommend the BRZ spec series that’s on this week. Any kind of slide kills your momentum in these cars, along with the cars having no aero makes a recipe for some amazing racing!
also another idea make a qualifying Lap mandatory before being allowed to start the race like that would end up helping other drivers gauge others pace in terms of how they match up even if its just people doing a bank lap to just be able to race.
Ahahahaah no kidding. Usually the p2 were very fair and good. But this time around. NOPE lmfao. Ranking system would be nice lol. Or qualify then put into a lobby based on speed of lap time. But what do we know lmfao.
@Flashms it would benefit the slower guys they'd actauly get to finish a race and not be dicks if they where all similar ranked..but yeh lol what do we know🤣
exactly, not everyone is as fast or as good as others, but the competition for everyone would be there, I feel awful when I am in P1 and winning by a crazy amount of time. While i have also been at the other end to lol.
Can't even get onto Forza since the last update. Crashes while loading every time. Submitted a ticket a week ago but no response yet. Looks like im not missing much tho.😂
Lmfao not missing much. :D. Are you on pc or console. I know for pc that I have to boot it at least once or twice. And when doing so. Do not touch anything else it’ll just crash every time. So no alt tabbing lmfao. Once it’s open it’s fine but loading up the game. Yeah it’s a game of chance lol
i mean ideally the best fix would be ghosting on lap 1 and then no ghosting the rest of the laps except in obvious cases where ghosting is already applied. Since you cant really police people for just being crap at turn 1 or being bad drivers lol. But in my head if you make lap 1 a ghost lap unilaterally it would solve that issue without making it ghost the whole race ? either way for turn 1's i usually go in quite cautious unless i qualified high up in the starting rank.
also the other thing i always remember is what my dad taught me about driving ... always expect people to be idiots on the road...i use the same logic when in driving games.
Yeah I think really ghosting on lap one maybe to much. They really need to sort matchmaking rather than over ghosting everyone. It’s catch 22 really. Is it to much ghosting or not enough lol
@@Flashms well thats the thing if you add in matchmaking that would take way more work , but if you say Ghost lap one unilaterally there'd be minimal complaint in terms of people playing with random's rather than scripted or planned races, then just when it comes to public races noone can really complain cos unless your much slower you should be in a roughly good starting spot without a mistake
@rickychase18 really what they should do is what everyone else does and is qualify session. Then placed in a race with people around your lap time. Then if you don’t qualify your put in the rest they don’t. That’s how the lobbies should be made up. But yeah your way is much simpler in terms of a fix for lap one.
@@Flashms Yeah but again that would be expecting them to do more work than im sure they are up for doing currently otherwise it would of been part of the forza formula already right ?
The "first corner" problem is a classic. The only thing we can do is stick to the inside and pray we don't end up on the outside of turn 2. I've come across late starters a few times. Sure, it's annoying, but it always amuses me how we go on autopilot and don’t anticipate situations like that xD
No kidding lol. Painful few races there.
Yeah. Crazy to think that we expect everyone to move off lol. Once you realise there not moving it’s to late lol. Only crash into them once. First time I actually went face to face though.
@@Flashms I'm more curious about what happened that you had a 12-second lead over Mezi1107, and after your pit stop, he managed to gain a 10-second advantage.
Oh im blind he pitted earlier sry my bad xD
Yeah he did. Which cost him his last lap
All I needed was one more lap and I would have had them lol
some comeback at Maple
Thanks bud. I think one more lap would have done it
It was great watching you actually fight a bit when it came to snatching 2 positions at once and before that bit when you were nudged in the rear in the braking zone. Other than those parts you were the usual consistent lap times and control benefitting off everyone who wasn't. good race at maple
Thanks bud.
my concern with adding more and more ghosting is at what point does it stop and you end up with just fully ghosted races. yes it’s frustrating when people spin in front or crash into
you but you can’t just ghost in real life
If you are referring to the maple valley race. Then I think for people who fail to start should be ghosted then booted from the race. I mean what use are they besides a large paperweight lol.
@@Flashms i can understand to some extent the non starters but it just feels like everything gets ghosted now, fact you are ghosted in the practice lobbies now, ghosted of a car goes a bit to quickly into a corner (not deliberate ramming but unintentionally braking too late with an over speed) have a slight spin, feel like it just takes away art of driving and anticipating other drivers.
I know it’s a simcade and not a sim but still feel like it would be good to keep it like this
Talking of features i want team/relay racing
Yeah I do find your ghosted for everything. I sort of understand of tracks but I also feel that doesn’t need to be ghosted. But. If you rejoin and hit someone. Then automatically should receive a penalty for poor rejoin. That would be the way I would do it. Again others may argue about that one lol
Ay your ghosted fully in practice ???
Yeah I found some cars randomly ghosted in corners and for no reason. Like you say you do need to be mindful of cars around you to. Then again I do miss the days when ghosting was minimal. Blocking that pit entrance was embarrassing but still so funny to see
@ are we getting some more nascar soon? the homestead miami races always seem fun
If you would like to some, Ill get racing over the weekend :D
In my opinion, if you want races that focus a lot more on race-craft then I would recommend the BRZ spec series that’s on this week. Any kind of slide kills your momentum in these cars, along with the cars having no aero makes a recipe for some amazing racing!
I shall give it a go. Sounds good to me bud. Last race I did like that was the baby ginettas and that was a blast.
I love the Forza P2 Series, so much fun to drive😊
Even after all the carnage I had. I have to agree. I surprisingly like it. It’s fun. Handles well and quite competitive :)
also another idea make a qualifying Lap mandatory before being allowed to start the race like that would end up helping other drivers gauge others pace in terms of how they match up even if its just people doing a bank lap to just be able to race.
Yeah that should help out a lot. Or even hold a leaderboard and use those times overall to match make you
The faster the class.. the bigger the mayhem..they should have a minimum qualifying time..or maybe a ranking system!🤣🤣
Ahahahaah no kidding. Usually the p2 were very fair and good. But this time around. NOPE lmfao.
Ranking system would be nice lol. Or qualify then put into a lobby based on speed of lap time. But what do we know lmfao.
@Flashms it would benefit the slower guys they'd actauly get to finish a race and not be dicks if they where all similar ranked..but yeh lol what do we know🤣
exactly, not everyone is as fast or as good as others, but the competition for everyone would be there, I feel awful when I am in P1 and winning by a crazy amount of time. While i have also been at the other end to lol.
@Flashms I always feel bad for the ..left behind lol🤣🤣
Yeah. Credit where credit is due if they keep going lol
If you look carefully, you can see Boba Fett wave to you as you pass the Sarlac pit.
Hahahahahahaha it is the perfect name for it lol
Can't even get onto Forza since the last update. Crashes while loading every time. Submitted a ticket a week ago but no response yet. Looks like im not missing much tho.😂
Lmfao not missing much. :D.
Are you on pc or console. I know for pc that I have to boot it at least once or twice. And when doing so. Do not touch anything else it’ll just crash every time. So no alt tabbing lmfao. Once it’s open it’s fine but loading up the game. Yeah it’s a game of chance lol
@Flashms Xbox Series S. Heres hoping they fix it soon
@Peopleperson77 sorry to hear that. I cannot help there. Sorry. Fingers crossed for you though bud.
@@Flashms The things I had to do to fix it on my PC it's insane. I should get a degree in informatics for that xD
@GhostPhoenix111 no kidding. I got a whole list on a notepad on fixes so I can remember them for later
i mean ideally the best fix would be ghosting on lap 1 and then no ghosting the rest of the laps except in obvious cases where ghosting is already applied. Since you cant really police people for just being crap at turn 1 or being bad drivers lol. But in my head if you make lap 1 a ghost lap unilaterally it would solve that issue without making it ghost the whole race ? either way for turn 1's i usually go in quite cautious unless i qualified high up in the starting rank.
also the other thing i always remember is what my dad taught me about driving ... always expect people to be idiots on the road...i use the same logic when in driving games.
Yeah I think really ghosting on lap one maybe to much. They really need to sort matchmaking rather than over ghosting everyone. It’s catch 22 really. Is it to much ghosting or not enough lol
@@Flashms well thats the thing if you add in matchmaking that would take way more work , but if you say Ghost lap one unilaterally there'd be minimal complaint in terms of people playing with random's rather than scripted or planned races, then just when it comes to public races noone can really complain cos unless your much slower you should be in a roughly good starting spot without a mistake
@rickychase18 really what they should do is what everyone else does and is qualify session. Then placed in a race with people around your lap time. Then if you don’t qualify your put in the rest they don’t. That’s how the lobbies should be made up. But yeah your way is much simpler in terms of a fix for lap one.
@@Flashms Yeah but again that would be expecting them to do more work than im sure they are up for doing currently otherwise it would of been part of the forza formula already right ?