Iceberg | Pokémon Black and White
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- Опубликовано: 15 янв 2024
- Here it is: The Pokémon Black and White Iceberg. Welcome to the iceberg of the fifth generation of Pokémon.
We'll explore secrets, mysteries, beta designs, concept art, creepy stuff and more.
Credits:
/ @mixeli
You know the drill! Leave your iceberg entries suggestions for Gen 6 if you want to appear in the next video! Thanks a lot!
Could be Goomy, Fennekin or Diancie if talking about pokémon, but if you are talking about anything related to Gen 6, about the powerplant, the use it might had if the developers had more time.
Ooh, I love Gen 6! Here are some fun ones:
-Glameow’s Ears (In Gen 6, Glameow’s model had off-proportion ears. This was fixed in Gen 7.)
-Team Flare and Valerie were aliens (A remnant of X and Y’s old plot, where the Fairy-Type came from outer space and Team Flare were Men In Black-style extraterrestrials. Valerie was also an alien, much like her Type- they changed this, but not her design. That’s why her eyes look so strange.)
-Team Flare is an allegory for unsustainable growth in capitalism (A bit of a reach, but Lysandre and some books in his HQ talk about “those who give and those who take,” which would also have tied into a Pokémon Z plot as Zygarde maintains ecological balance. The capitalism part is a bit more obvious by the whole “Only the rich get to join” thing with the suit pricing, plus their focus on superficial status symbols like special shades.)
Edit: I accidentally obfuscated some of the second point, typing this on mobile and don’t know how to fix- it’s just about Team Flare and Valerie’s original roles as aliens.
Maybe you should add that xy insider info from 4chan about Sycamore and Lysandre are supposedly the same person and are aliens. I wonder if that 4chan info is true though.
Fake Rodent Leak/Reshiram and Zekrom statues/stuff that would be in Z version/XZ and YZ fake leak
Lumiose ghost girl.
I saw a theory about how Ghetsis got injured, it was due to treating his Hydreigon so badly that it attacked him. The Hydreigon has a maxed out Frustration attack so that would make sense.
To explain the N's Beta Design entry, it was a concept art provided by Junichi Masuda, he asked the other designers to make a sort of genius type of character, prompting a woman who worked under him as a designer to ask "What is genius?", which is where this design was made. No wonder why they later revised it, as it looks so off-putting and uncanny compared to the N's final design.
It reminds me a lot of the Shesha-Flynn (or zombie Flynn) from Shin Megami Tensei 4 Apocalypse in its offputting look
@@aidenb7444 He looks like Adachi from Persona 5 tbh
@@mmyr8ado.360 adachi persona 4 or akechi persona 5?
Or Tomura Shigaraki from My Hero Academia.
But yeah, thank you for compensating for that awkward silence.
EisenBerg: * shows beta concept art of N *
EisenBerg: Thank you for watching the video. 🙂
He looked terrifying
The N beta design is really creepy.
Fortunately they did not use that in the games
i dont think its the design and more so the artstyle sugomori used.
Yes is very much darkness.
With the ghost girl, I believe the section where she says she hears her dad’s voice isn’t her dad saying to forget about the lunar wing. I think the girl is trying to speak to her dad, knowing she won’t be alive when he retrieves the lunar wing. So she begs for her dad to forget about it, and to stay with her during her last moments, but she was unable to tell him and she ultimately passed away without him by her side.
Brrr, N’s beta design unnerves me every time I see it… utterly fascinating concept, yet uniquely horrifying!
Being a major Gen V fan, this was hella cool! The fact that I actively knew most of the items was just a bonus XD
Even though N is not my favorite, he is the most well-written and complex character we've ever encountered in a Pokémon mainline game. We need more characters like him, an enigmatic figure with a unique philosophical perspective on human treatment toward Pokémon rather than the usual flat characters solely focused on winning the Pokémon League or dealing with typical parent issues that are cliche and typical trope.
Unfortunately, the fandom shat all over gen 5 when it first came out. I think it is still the lowest selling generation.
Probably one of the reasons why Game Freak stopped taking risks
We've managed to get closer back to the writing, especially character standard with Scarlet and Violet and the DLC'S. Maybe not philosophically but I'm not sure we'll ever reach that again tbh.
@@meloelebi1996 the character writing is really good in scarlet and violet it makes me wish the game didn't run like ass so i could properly appreciate it :(
@@kaimanthelizardwizard1248 it’s not the lowest selling generation bozo. BW2 sold more than Platinum 😆
@@a.x.x8184 Pokemon Diamond & Pearl - 17.67 million
Pokemon Platinum - 7.6 million
Pokemon HeartGold & SoulSilver - 12.72 million
Pokemon Black & White - 15.64 million
Pokemon Black 2 & White 2 - 8.52 million
Sit down, child.
Small correction for the section around 8:36. That is not the only location in the core series where level 1-100 wild pokemon can be found. In the resort area in Platinum, there is a spot where you can also fish for level 1 to 100 magikarp. Hope this was helpful👍
Gyarados can only be encountered at level 1 in the nature preserve, but you are right! You can also find Magikarp from level 1 up to 100 in Platinum. It was helpful, thanks a lot! Greetings
This also works for scarlet and violet in the teal mask
I think Ghetsis tried to approach Kyurem when he was younger but wasnt powerful enough to tame it, so it froze his right side resulting in the injuries.
20:20 another detail with ghetsis is that half his face seems to be paralyzed in part. Just look at his mouth when he speaks.
Also, in masters Ghetsis has a voice line saying "I'll take you down with my own hand!"
Key here being the usage of HAND rather than HANDS
Interesting! I actually hadn't noticed. Greetings!
Ns beta design looks cursed
Im pretty sure the quote "forget about the lunar wing stay here with me" was what the girl was thinking not what her dad said she probably didn't want to be left alone and to be with her parents but it seems her parents left anyway got the lunar wing and when they came back she was already dead.
Difficulty is in gen 2 it’s called picking chickorita
i beat the entire battle frontier with meganium rhyperior and suicune lol
So glad people are giving 5th gen the respect it DESERVES
N’s Beta Design giving more Drakengard 1 vibes than Pokémon
Sadly I think the main reason they started shiny locking legendaries is because they want to save them for distribution in potential events. I hate it, because instead of being able to find shinies yourself if you're willing to put in the effort, you have to wait until gamefreak decides they'll just give it to you 😔
Nah it's 100% because they wanted consistency with the names of the games. If you are playing Pokemon Black and the epic moment where you finally encounter Zekrom happens and he's not black for every ~8,000th player, that would be jarring and confusing.
Another Iceberg, These are always great to watch 👍
The theory of N being a Zoroark is probably better than the one in which Ghetsis shtupped a Pokémon because he's evil.
Idk why, but black and white always felt like the darkest Pokémon story
Definitely more mature than gen 9 esp with the childish team star arc and Mythical event chicken dance 😂
Me: Pulls out the black and white manga of Ghetsis beating N with his walking stick in an attempt to kill him
@@a.x.x8184 Can we just appreciate something on its own without having to put down other things for _once?_
I don't know man.
I shudder more at the thought of HOW Cyrus made the Red Chain, especially considering his scientists' reaction.
@@a.x.x8184Didn't Scarlet and Violet culminate in the revelation that Arven's Professor parent was just straight up murdered by the second box art Legendary, followed by having to fight the Professor's AI copy because even the Professor's own creation didn't see the logic in the Professor's crazy ass plan that involved fucking with timelines?
The best Pokémon games ever made! Thank you so much for this video, my friend ☺️
I'm happy you enjoyed the video! And let's hope for the remake of this generation!
Doctor, you have 28:06 minutes to live..
Me:
I was waiting for this one! Very excited to watch it, keep up the great work!
W videos tanman
That N beta design reminds me a lot of Sui Ishida’s art style it’s uncanny
Just binged all the pokemon icebergs and they’re so great! Can’t wait to watch the next generations that you drop! 🙏🏼
Thanks a lot! All generations of Pokémon will have an iceberg entry! Currently I'm working on Generation 6. Greetings!
The actual story surrounding Gen 5 is surprisingly dark. They wanted to do a soft reset and some of it very hand-holding but the actual story around it all is pretty grim. My favourite theory is that the girl and boy protagonists are from parallel dimensions and can never cross over; hence black city and white forest
How the hell do you activate those two locations???? I can never get it to work and also getting the better tournament battles in b/w 2. I keep having the basic ones
@themachoechidnaugandarandy7583 it's been about 10 years since I played through those games so I don't fully remember LOL I'm pretty sure it has to do with the dream world which, probably isn't active anymore cause you had to do it through the pokemon website at the time
i never actually did play B&W, i stopped after gen 3 game 3 because of... well, adulthood, you only realize how expensive games are when you have to pay them on youre selfe...
and starting to smoke was probably part of it.
(im clean for 4 years now)
but since nintendo likes to remake older pokemon games to cash in on this sweet sweet nostalgia , with should happen this year
I'm loving the videos dude, keep up the good work.
Babe wake up eisenberg uploaded pokemon video🗣️🗣️
You're goddamn right!
An explanation for the "Kyurem came from space" could be, that Kyurem just lived there long before the meteorite hit.
Kyurem went there after the original dragon split.
But then the meteorite exposed its lair, giving it easy access to the outside world again.
This made people think it came from space.
We need a Legends Kyurem game and allow us to finally encounter and obtain and original dragon.
Black and White and it’s sequels are probably my favorite Pokemon games ever. It had a solid roster of new Pokémon and it was peak storytelling for the franchise so I do not understand why people hated and still hate these games so much.
i guess peeps hate changes/new things back then when the game just got release and the hate is so unjustified
and look what the consequences are, GameFreak stopped being innovative with the later gens
Loved this video, thank you!
Bro really nice video, well done
Reading the name "EisenBerg" is so funny to me because a city in my country is called Eisenberg
Amazing video, as a child I kinda hated gen 5, but now, it's one of my favorite generations.
sorry couldn't really hear you the first minute or so because of that banger cobalion/terrakion/verizon soundtrack
Cool Video thanks
That N beta design reminded me of Deino for some reason.
_"It can't see, so its first approach to examining things is to bite them. You will be covered in wounds until a Deino warms up to you."_
Man, Deino's really don't like N...
Can't wait till there's merch for this channel, I want a coffee mug with your logo on it
When I have the option, I'll let you know!!!
While there were plenty of iconic designs before and since, the early 2010s (gens 5 and 6) is where the devs really hit their stride with the art style and character designs overall. And when it comes to the protagonists, Hilda and Serena have to be the best looking girl MCs imo, truly stellar designs. Though I'm sometimes shocked as to how they got away with the former wearing such small shorts. Sure, it was the brief time when the protags were aged up a bit to be more teen-like, but they overall don't look that much older than previous or following ones.
You are comically underrated bro
Gen 5 the music was fire in the generation.
Ayyy let's go. Eisenberg dropping a vid
Concerning "difficulty", while most games post Gen 5 are considered to be easy, Ultra Sun/Moon are a very notable exception to this; trials captains/kahunas have perfect IV pokemon, totem pokemon are even stronger than in the original, Ultra Necrozma is infamous, and even the postgame is a box legendary gauntlet. To me, USUM is the most difficult entry to Nuzlocke (with BW2 being 2nd).
N's beta design looks like Eric from Zero Time Dillema
N is my overall fav char in entire Pokemon
didnt expect it to drop this early. gj eisenberg fr❤
I was thinking about posting it for next week, but I didn't want to keep you all waiting that long. Greetings!
Why is peanut butter gamer in the thumbnail if he never appears in any Pokémon games?
On the one movie with the genesects their natural habitat is shown to be a lake surrounded by mountains where kabutops are known to be ocean-dwelling so maybe they're their fresh water ancestors?
Swords of justice music has no right going that hard
For the genesect is a kabutopes theory. I believe both their pokedex enteries specifcally state they are fro. 300 million years ago. Not many pokemon get years related to them so thats a close connection
For gen 6
The pokemon village (and why mewtwo is there)
The powerplant (which is likly unused due to cut content)
The sundail (and its likly connections to gen 7)
The change to 3d and the complaints in brought
Addition of exp share not being a held item
The lumiose ghost girl connection to ghost girls of past games
Oh and a big one, proffesor sickamore is likly the assistant to proffesor Rowan.
Sickamore is said to have studied in shinnoh (an assistant in his lab says) and the black haired npc in rowans lab is dawn/lucases father. Thats why dawn/lucas wake up in legends arceus with shirts from Kalos on, they are from kalos region (or at least go on to live there)
Just when I needed a new channel to binge, EisenBerg appears out of thin air to bless my algorithm!
6:08
Don’t tell me getesis did the dirty with a gardevoir or something
Lucky bastard
Eisenberg did it again
I have played both of these Game
when i played this I meet some characters that are Very suspicious to me in terms of Ideal and perspectives of each characters
N is a descendent of the king. But he could also be a pokemon!
The final part scared the hell out of me i thought my tv went off then i saw a creepy face of n 😅
I succeeded in creating the creepy atmosphere. Thanks for watching!
@@RealEisenBerg your video is very entertaining ngl 🤌
New sub
11:42 I think genesect is the past paradox form of kabutops and team plasma revive with mechanical parts on it
As good as Unova is, I can attest as a New Yorker that I seriously doubt anyone on the development team has ever been there. New York is incredibly small and dense, as well as it mainly being flat. They really should have done the entire Northeast. Although I will say that some of the routes and the Nature Preserve do feel accurate to places in Upstate New York.
Red alert Eisenberg has finally reached Pokémon black and white
Black and White were the generation that not only caused me to quit Pokémon before even playing it (I cant believe I was mad about the "ice cream" Pokémon. Vanilluxe rocks), but also the generation I wound up loving the most, and getting me into competitive battling. This was the last good pokemon generation in terms of story, design, and a good challenge. Its been down hill ever since :(
Have enjoyed all of the iceberg so far.
I hope you like the next ones!
I believe that Kabutops and Genesect are not the same pokemon, but used to belong to the same order.
Past Pokémon being unavailable until getting the National PokéDex, and being set in a region outside of Japan that feels like trying to appease outside of Japan are the downsides. The great features added are the reusable TMs, and the Shiny Charm.
You got the lunar wing thing totally wrong. It's actually the opposite:
The girls asked her dad to forget about the lunar wing, because she wanted him to be together with her in that scary moment.
I still think they took inspiration from L in deathnote while creating N
Nice!
Quick question, do you accept entry suggestions? I believe I have a good one
Of course!
@@RealEisenBerg So let's say I have an entry for gen 8, would I need to wait until the gen 7 video gets released?
Since I'm gonna make icebergs for every single generation, you are welcome to submit your iceberg entry for other generations @@resurrekt7114
@@RealEisenBerg here it goes, buckle up cause it's a lengthy one; Also it's more of a speculative one but interesting nonetheless: The Darkest Day has caused the removal of Megas
What if during the events of the Darkest Day, as a result of Eternatus entering its Eternamax form, it had absorbed not only Dynamax energy, but EVERY kind of energy, including Mega Energy? As we all know, Eternamax Eternatus is a form caused by severe energy overload, as stated in Eternamax Eternatus's Sword dex entry: "As a result of Rose's meddling, Eternatus absorbed all the energy in the Galar region. It's now in a state of power overload." Now, in the time period of the player, it was indeed Rose that brought upon Galar the Darkest Day, but during the original one, there was nobody (that we know of) that has triggered it themselves, let alone Chairman Rose. What we CAN deduct from that, however, is that the Eternamax form can be caused by absorbing a ton of energy, and it's not stated WHAT energy, either; it could be Dynamax energy, Mega Energy or hell, even regular electricity! Its Shield dex entry reads: " Infinite amounts of energy pour from this Pokémon's enlarged core, warping the surrounding space-time." So not only did Eternamax Eternatus absorb ALL of the energy in Galar, but it's constantly leaking Dynamax energy as well, so no matter what energy enters, only Dynamax energy exits. While we do not know what happened to the foreign energies after the Darkest Day, we can assume it either just dissolved as Eternatus was defeated for the first time, or already had been converted to Dynamax energy by that time, which would explain why Mega Stones do not function in Galar, as there is no Mega Energy to fuel the Mega Stones. Basically, if someone would bring a Mega Stone to Galar, they just won't work, as the Dynamax energy would effortlessly overwhelm the foreign energy and just neutralize it, thus resulting in a useless, albeit pretty rock.
Also, in Pokémon Masters, in Hop's 3rd Sync Pair Story, "A Massive Impact", he says "What?! I've read about Mega Evolution in some books in the lab..." This implies that at some point in time, the Mega Evolution phenomenon was known in Galar, and probably even appeared in there for some time, yet because of the Darkest Day effectively neutralizing all Mega Energy, it's no longer available.
@@RealEisenBerg entry was too long for YT so I'm splitting it. Keep in mind it's more theoretical than factual but still I believe it has some solid ground:
*The Darkest Day exterminated Mega Evolutions*
Why is the PeanutButterGamer in pain on the thumbnail? Lol
Ash tried to put Pikachu in a ball an realized he couldnt stop Pikachu from coming out or pikachu refused to go back in it probably being in there for years
1:05 Eisenberg
You're goddamn right!
I don't buy that Caitlin one but still an awesome video!
She straight up advertises trying the Battle Castle, mentions her psychic powers were uncontrollable in her youth (explaining why she never battled as the brain there) and mentions Darach came by but only cleaned up and left in the villa she let Cynthia use.
The only questionable part is the Darach love, told by an NPC in the frontier as he can't express his feelings for her, and is only possibly implied by him not interacting with her when visiting.
@@meloelebi1996 ahh okay! The character models are very different but I guess I was wrong. Thanks for clarifying!
lol charmander scream
Absolutely love B/W B/W 2!! it's also pretty cool how N may or may not be connected to the Abyssal Ruins Lore!
Literally the last good Pokemon games, People saying Pokemon games are still alive are heavily coping.
LETS GOOOOO ANOTHER ONE IN THE SERIES I may have to replay bw2 after this one🤣
Gamefreak better not remake black and white
Black 3 and White 3? 👀
good luck with that
BW/BW2 OST slaps different
I think the placements need to be adjusted quite a bit. Caitlin being in gen 4 is definitely not top level information, shiny charm should be at the very top, and the Munna reference shouldnt be as high as it is. Shiny locks should be WAY higher
The best games and the best Icebergs
And alder has a son or grandson in scarlet and violet
N is a ditto.
Pokemon day 2024 - poemon z is coming 😂
WOW i HAAAAATEEEE proto N!!!!!!!
The final entry felt extremely anticlimactic
Aw man I thought this iceberg would have some obscure information on it -_-
I love the N theory, but he has a Zoro on his team. Even the idea of having a Pokémon team goes against Ns ideology if he in fact is a Pokémon himself.
Neither disprove the theory though. The zoroark he uses could either be a separate species or N himself. And doesn’t having an official team go against his ideology whether he is a Pokémon or not? Hence why he never officially has one
hilda and rosa are perfection itself.... best female protags ever
Pokemon Black and White were the best story in all main series games during its time.
Until Gen 9 happened. Despite its many flaws. Its story is better.
B&W a very slim maybe but B2&W2 definitely not.
And I thought S&V's story was really good! (By Pokémon standards that is.)
SV has an incredible story (not without flaws, of course)
eh
yellow, crystal, emerald, platinum are not 3rd versions. they are the dlcs of their time. get over it
Maybe N could be a Mew? Who wanted to evolve into a human
Ah the 5th gen
Aka the best gen ever made
dislike for obnoxiously zooming in on iceberg. let me see the whole thing that you prob stole from google anyway.
is it fun being extremely annoying?
@@squirtdemon i mean, personally, no. but you dont need my validation to justify your behavior 😘