This is excellent! So thoughtful and well-put. I really appreciate how you used minimalist operating systems to describe the issue of behavioral addictions in such a unique way. Great content!
the dopamine hypothesis is a false understanding of addiction. Although the hypothesis has not been disproven, the development of drug to assist with heroin detoxification has shown that people are addicted to the displeasure, not the high, that caused by heroin usage.
I do whats best for my workflow. Just cutting down software does't give me necessarily a better workflow. Although one thing I have is that my os has to look clean in a certain way but I can excuse for that as it distracts me if everything is looking all over the place. So it can happen that I go form over function but again only if it out ways the costs. In this case, gives me more motivation to sit at my computer cause everything looks nice. The same goes for the amount of Software. More software asks for more managing that's true but you have to make trade offs and find the sweet spot. In your case I wander what those trade offs are if there are any.
I'm addicted to charging batteries, the longer between cycles the better. Even thought I hate apple I find myself buying apple products, lately I found aliexpress, I found you can buy gigantic batteries for cheap to keep laptops with LLM capabilities turn on for very very very long. I'm not sure when, where or how to stop. HELP.
Man, I couldn't get into the habit of hauling a battery around. I sure as hell could get into the habit of power-optimizing all my stuff to run longer, though. How do you do that? PS: helping other people to power-optimize their stuff within the limits of what they're willing to do could break you out of the cycle. Helping other people would force you to spend less time optimizing every milliwatt out of your own devices, which may become a self-reinforcing cycle. I don't know. But I do know that teaching other people is deeply satisfying, you're an expert on battery lifetimes at this point, so why not combine those things and help the world while you're at it? Energy waste in computing will rapidly become one of the biggest contributors to global warming (at least, the biggest contributor of waste that can be minimized at absolutely no real cost to anyone), although I think it may take a few decades for anyone to notice.
@@amiraloi1694 I agree, I’m a minimalist myself! I was just joking that if you keep subtracting you might end up with nothing left and possibly start questioning existence itself.
@@sebascm7278 I already think that urbanisation and digitalization were mistakes. Maybe we will learn to live with all of this with time, but I am sceptical, I expect the depopulation and deaths of despair epidemic in the future, and it will be accompanied by a loneliness epidemic.
Those are good points. Here's a slightly different perspective: Minimalist software is maintainable and unsurprising. Everyone knows the feeling of getting a new windows update and something breaks or even a new major windows version and stuff is completely different. The same can go for applications. Todays LibreOffice or whatever might be designed in a way you like but in the future a new version could look completely different. The same goes for Desktop Environments. These programs also have lots of developers needed to be maintained. Minimalist software usually has just one developer and a few contributors (I acknowledge the bus factor) but on the other hand it means it might be feasible to maintain a certain piece of software, or a patch for it yourself. So yes, if you have found the tool your are most comfortable with for the job, use it, but it might be possible to use minimalist tools for longer.
But you also have a status bar which means more useless text rendered on screen while you can display time in your shell prompt. That's how minimal I want things to be
@@JamesSmith-ix5jd Assuming you compiled it (dwm precompiled from repos isn't customizable at all), you could just erase the status bar (which doesn't come with a status program, but that's beside the point). In that case, you might as well install X without a DE or WM. It's not a good UX at all, but there are no frills whatsoever.
I mean there's also a point to using minimalistic applications. If we just forget about resource usage and start building softwares, it's going to be a complete mess. More electronic waste, more spending on stuff which really wasn't needed in the first place. I'm a person who's cared about this and I try to stick with minimal software. But yeah I'm not mad enough to switch to Artix thinking that systemd is bloated.
But can't we take these as a hobby of optimizing the computer that you use everyday, for work, for study, for other stuff. The point is that if someone has a hobby of playing sports, cooking food, etc. then why can't we consider using our computer for fun as a hobby and not as a bad thing that it is just a dopamine hit for you. Considering if you can maintain a good social life relating or not relating to your hobby. If not, then you just need to find a new thing which makes you go outside the house and interact with other people.
I hate minimalism in general. I just think that trying to cut things out for the sake of cutting things out is silly. That's not to say that I don't engage in minimalist software and behavior sometimes; I do. I just prefer what I call "elegance": that is, the total set of tools that I can use well and will get the job done well. Sometimes that means a minimalist approach, sometimes that means a "maximalist" approach; most often, it means neither. Preferably less rather than more, but that's an opinion and should never be part of an absolutism. Maybe it's better to say that I hate absolutisms, but if minimalism isn't an absolutism, I don't know what is.
Hi, I wouldn't call myself minimalist by any means. What makes me look at Window Managers like DWL is a) simplicity - yes, you have to go through the weird syntax but there are soooo much less options to choose from and b) usually smaller, less complicated code is more reliable. I want less options in my life not more. We are bombarded with choice and customizability we don't need. I always beg developers: please do everything customizable for advanced users and then... provide a starter code for mortals, that would be based on common sense defaults - a preset if you will. Unfortunately in Linux world it's not common enough. Take Hyprland and DWL... it's not about minimalism it's about ability to wrap your head around and have trust in the software. We are living in a too complicated world. I love well thought software or hardware (config) where you have a great functionality with preset default out of the box and ONLY then you have "advanced" button so you can play and adjust everything. Unfortunately in Linux world it's the other way round.
This is excellent! So thoughtful and well-put. I really appreciate how you used minimalist operating systems to describe the issue of behavioral addictions in such a unique way. Great content!
This video did hit my dopamine receptor
Consoom content.
Tmux in the tty is the move
the dopamine hypothesis is a false understanding of addiction. Although the hypothesis has not been disproven, the development of drug to assist with heroin detoxification has shown that people are addicted to the displeasure, not the high, that caused by heroin usage.
It is also true that dopamine is a hormone produced by the body itself.
I do whats best for my workflow. Just cutting down software does't give me necessarily a better workflow. Although one thing I have is that my os has to look clean in a certain way but I can excuse for that as it distracts me if everything is looking all over the place. So it can happen that I go form over function but again only if it out ways the costs. In this case, gives me more motivation to sit at my computer cause everything looks nice. The same goes for the amount of Software. More software asks for more managing that's true but you have to make trade offs and find the sweet spot. In your case I wander what those trade offs are if there are any.
I think the Rust people need to think about this as well. It's a programming language, not a lifestyle. Not everything needs to be rewritten in Rust.
I'm addicted to charging batteries, the longer between cycles the better. Even thought I hate apple I find myself buying apple products, lately I found aliexpress, I found you can buy gigantic batteries for cheap to keep laptops with LLM capabilities turn on for very very very long. I'm not sure when, where or how to stop. HELP.
What is LLM?
Man, I couldn't get into the habit of hauling a battery around. I sure as hell could get into the habit of power-optimizing all my stuff to run longer, though. How do you do that?
PS: helping other people to power-optimize their stuff within the limits of what they're willing to do could break you out of the cycle. Helping other people would force you to spend less time optimizing every milliwatt out of your own devices, which may become a self-reinforcing cycle. I don't know. But I do know that teaching other people is deeply satisfying, you're an expert on battery lifetimes at this point, so why not combine those things and help the world while you're at it? Energy waste in computing will rapidly become one of the biggest contributors to global warming (at least, the biggest contributor of waste that can be minimized at absolutely no real cost to anyone), although I think it may take a few decades for anyone to notice.
Minimalism leads to nothing. 😂
It gives you a huge advantage over self-control and morally saves you from the mess we are facing in today's world
@@amiraloi1694 I agree, I’m a minimalist myself! I was just joking that if you keep subtracting you might end up with nothing left and possibly start questioning existence itself.
@@amiraloi1694 I guess moderation is key as always.
@@sebascm7278 well sorry I did not get the joke
Maybe because I'm not a minimalist myself😅
@@sebascm7278 I already think that urbanisation and digitalization were mistakes. Maybe we will learn to live with all of this with time, but I am sceptical, I expect the depopulation and deaths of despair epidemic in the future, and it will be accompanied by a loneliness epidemic.
Those are good points.
Here's a slightly different perspective:
Minimalist software is maintainable and unsurprising. Everyone knows the feeling of getting a new windows update and something breaks or even a new major windows version and stuff is completely different. The same can go for applications. Todays LibreOffice or whatever might be designed in a way you like but in the future a new version could look completely different. The same goes for Desktop Environments. These programs also have lots of developers needed to be maintained. Minimalist software usually has just one developer and a few contributors (I acknowledge the bus factor) but on the other hand it means it might be feasible to maintain a certain piece of software, or a patch for it yourself.
So yes, if you have found the tool your are most comfortable with for the job, use it, but it might be possible to use minimalist tools for longer.
But you also have a status bar which means more useless text rendered on screen while you can display time in your shell prompt. That's how minimal I want things to be
A status bar isn't useless. And if you're referring to dwm's version, you can turn off/hide the status bar completely.
@@encycl07pedia- the bar would still take some memory even while hidden because it's compiled into the binary.
@@JamesSmith-ix5jd Assuming you compiled it (dwm precompiled from repos isn't customizable at all), you could just erase the status bar (which doesn't come with a status program, but that's beside the point). In that case, you might as well install X without a DE or WM. It's not a good UX at all, but there are no frills whatsoever.
I mean there's also a point to using minimalistic applications. If we just forget about resource usage and start building softwares, it's going to be a complete mess. More electronic waste, more spending on stuff which really wasn't needed in the first place.
I'm a person who's cared about this and I try to stick with minimal software. But yeah I'm not mad enough to switch to Artix thinking that systemd is bloated.
But can't we take these as a hobby of optimizing the computer that you use everyday, for work, for study, for other stuff. The point is that if someone has a hobby of playing sports, cooking food, etc. then why can't we consider using our computer for fun as a hobby and not as a bad thing that it is just a dopamine hit for you. Considering if you can maintain a good social life relating or not relating to your hobby. If not, then you just need to find a new thing which makes you go outside the house and interact with other people.
I agree.
I hate minimalism in general. I just think that trying to cut things out for the sake of cutting things out is silly. That's not to say that I don't engage in minimalist software and behavior sometimes; I do. I just prefer what I call "elegance": that is, the total set of tools that I can use well and will get the job done well. Sometimes that means a minimalist approach, sometimes that means a "maximalist" approach; most often, it means neither. Preferably less rather than more, but that's an opinion and should never be part of an absolutism. Maybe it's better to say that I hate absolutisms, but if minimalism isn't an absolutism, I don't know what is.
Hi, I wouldn't call myself minimalist by any means. What makes me look at Window Managers like DWL is a) simplicity - yes, you have to go through the weird syntax but there are soooo much less options to choose from and b) usually smaller, less complicated code is more reliable. I want less options in my life not more. We are bombarded with choice and customizability we don't need. I always beg developers: please do everything customizable for advanced users and then... provide a starter code for mortals, that would be based on common sense defaults - a preset if you will. Unfortunately in Linux world it's not common enough. Take Hyprland and DWL... it's not about minimalism it's about ability to wrap your head around and have trust in the software. We are living in a too complicated world. I love well thought software or hardware (config) where you have a great functionality with preset default out of the box and ONLY then you have "advanced" button so you can play and adjust everything. Unfortunately in Linux world it's the other way round.