Legacy so far Y1) Practically an extension of kingdom Y2) Testing and capitalizing on the demand for different continuities Y3) Goin’ Bananas 3: in 3-D
My POV on Legacy Legacy year 1: Wait, people like it when we’re accurate to something other than a 40-something cartoon that’s not even accurate to itself? (Bulkhead is good and Knock Out is alright, but Arcee is definitely the worst of year 1 when it comes to unnecessary G1ification) Evolution: Indeed an evolution in the right direction, but not without its stinkers United: We haven’t had a bad figure aside from “Cyberverse” Chromia and even then she’s a retool of an already good mold
Legacy, we have energon weapons. Ok why? What do they do? Legacy, we don’t know? But get ready for evo-fusion. Side note. My local Walmart still has a peg full of Skids and 4 Galvatrons & Blitzwings Also-also where’s my Beast Machines Tankor & Jetstorm?
Oh Blitziwng is everywhere, and I don't think he's going anywhere. As for Tankor and Jetstorm, hopefully eventually. Though please no other BM characters.
I actually did complete legacy menasor and frankly I have no regrets with doing so being the first comnbiner I ever completed (I got in too late into combiner wars and I missed power of the primes due to being power of the primes) honestly I feel that each member ranges from just inoffensive to really good and I love how they look as a team and when combined
Same thing for me, if you don’t count my ko superion where silverbolts arm fell off. The figures go for insane prices on the aftermarket so it felt like a miracle every time I found one
9:30 “as we can see here it’s a wild rider alt mode attempting to hunt the poor old litte wheelie alt mode but fortunately for the wheelie the wild rider is so shit that it can’t move”
I'm still seeing quite a lot of these figures at my walmarts and targets, I'll always be seeing legarcees, kickbacks, skids, crankcase, blitzwings, and armada Starscreams, oh and also like 20-30 coronation starscreams that refuse to go on clearance, and yet a month in and still no new things
I got lucky and found Bludegeon and Shrapnel at a Walmart. Still seeing lots of legacy figures, though the Strongarm wave from Evolution looks to be a close second, with SS85 Arcee and Airazor also being peg warmers.
I think legacy is my favourite line as it give more designs especially really obscure ones like jhiaxus a shine. And some absolute bangers like armada prime,tarn,the nemesis,victory saber etc.
Same man. All the unreleased G2 toys getting modern renditions was crazy news for anyone who likes obscure history. Same for the things you mentioned, and just more Japanese stuff like Galaxy Shuttle, Metalhawk, Minerva
It is super cool to see that, I just wish the Quality were a bit higher consistantly. Figures like Starscream should not be ruined by their QC, and Figures like Kickback should not be so underengineered.
The Stuntacon set was so infuriating to me. Not because I don’t like them I actually really like it. (It just sits up on a shelf in combine mode), but from how hard it was to pick up every figure besides Dragstrip and Breakdown. Seriously it took me a year to finally be able to pickup Motor Master on Amazon that wasn’t $180, and by the time I did I spent nearly $190 on two commander class as my Armada Prime came literally 3 days later.
6:37 there is no continuity at all between the 2 just watch Cybertron you basically need to no nothing going into it (what little continuity does exist is just Hasbro changing the dub to try and force it to make sense)
@@PerspectiveEnd you ever considered watching the Japanese version of Energon then? It’s genuinely great, it turned energon from one of my least favorite to my like 2nd favorite Transformers show. Superlink is sooooo good.
Ik you’ve probably heard this a million times but even in America, Cybertron really isn’t a sequel to Energon. There’s a throwaway line about Unicrons death in Energon being the catalyst for the whole story(if I remember correctly… I was 6). And an Energon character or two cameo in the final episode of the show and they don’t even talk, but that’s pretty much it. The show blatantly contradicts Energon and Armada like I’m pretty sure it’s the autobots first time ever on Earth when they arrive. When two characters combine, someone says something about having never seen two transform combine like that before… even though that was the whole gimmick of Energon… etc etc.
Legacy was when I truly got into transformers, learning about the community was so much fun. However it’s also when I learned about the horrors of hasbro QC. 😢
I got Legacy Bombshell a while back for my birthday and I'd say the worst part about him is the risk of losing the partsforming guns for his insect mode, so otherwise he's surprisingly decent.
Here in the Land Down Under, we have such weird distribution. We can get exclusives really easily, but regular releases just don't show up. There were so many SS 102 Optimus Primes on the shelf, but Core Class Swoop and Snarl never made it here, so we literally can't complete Volcanicus without importing from overseas. Also no Dreadwing.
Yeah, I'm hearing so many strange things from Australia. Like you guys are getting things MONTHS before I think there's even a chance they end up here, but then you don't git other stuff EVER.
@@PerspectiveEnd we got Motormaster before everyone else, but at the same time one of our local stores only recently (within the past month or so) started stocking Legacy Evo Wave ONE and SS86 Ironhide
I don't know if you remember my comment on your starscream video, but I owe you an apology, after messing with it more I realised that I had the qc issue on BOTH my legs, which seemed to have just gotten worse over time which is why I didn't notice it at first. But you were right. Also the way I view legacy, is just how fun it was, (like how you mentioned in your trash master video) sure there were a lot of not great ones, but most every figure I got was just fun. Like how we got a lot of cool and somewhat obscure characters, Gimmicks kinda came back with laser prime as well. Legacy felt more like toys than just display pieces, which reminded me why I collect in the first place. (to have fun)
I don't remember the comment, but it's fine, even if I didn't I wouldn't take any offence to anything you said, and I'm just sorry to hear that yours is now doing the thing that everyone else's is doing. And yes, I will say that despite the quality of a lot of the toys, what legacy seems to have done is captured a sense of fun and surprise.
Perspective I finally got laser prime and your review was actually very accurate and Its now one of my favorites in my collection. Also a figure I highly recommend you review is thrilling 30 sky byte. To me its a phenomenal figure
Wait they made a T30 Skybyte? And I'm glad that you are liking the Optimus so much, though I would recommend never getting another. It's a great figure to have ONCE.
If you look at the Box of the 1988 Pretenders Skullgrin you can see the vehicle mode looks pretty much identical to what we got in Legacy aside from a few things being a little bit different. so while the concept art was really cool, they didn’t just invent some nothingness here it is actually trying to be the old toy’s alt mode
Like as a team, or just as Menasor? Because if it's just Menasor, then wouldn't it be just as good as a large figure, if the component bots like Wildrider are TRASH?
I always find I don't agree with about half of your opinions in these videos, but I still really enjoy how you express them.Your presenting style is really funny, well done mate. I'm in the UK and I did alright with the last few Kingdom / Legacy / SS86 really. I think I got most of what I wanted for reasonable price, but I paid £35 for Cosmos ( about $45 ) and - you're going to hate this - £40 for Dead End ( about $50 ) because I had all of the other ones and I wanted the complete set. I did only pay £45 for Motormaster in a sale when he was costing £90 everywhere else though, so it balanced out I guess! I really enjoyed Iguanus too and also thought Bombshell was a 2/3 at best. Boo.
After seeing this video about Legacy Retrospective (and knowing Hasbro kinda feel off in sales in 2023), I can imagine the next Retrospective about Legacy Evolution starting with "it has a lot of promises", until digesting the figures one by one only to turn out it's more underwhelming with some being great while the rest just sucks.
I have a theory that Legacy Bulkie was a mold Hasbro had laying around for a while and didn't know what/when to use it, nor what universe to put it under, so, they released it under the Aligned Continuity/Prime Universe, and called it a day.
Countertheory: he was meant to be a what-if G1 Bulkhead before the idea of doing designs from all the Transformers media minus the movies became the central focus of Legacy/Evolution/United and he was promptly given a Prime Bulkhead noggin in order to match up with his wavemate Arcee.
0:51 Regarding figure shipping, where i live its kinda an issue considering the only figures i was able to find a lot of from legacy were either legend, elita-1, galvatron and laser prime. Which kinda sucks considering i barely order anything onlin.
Its funny, me and my friend were actually arguing about how bad legacee truly was. He thought that she was a partsformer just because the backpack bits came off in robot mode, which isn’t the definition of partsforming like…at all. It’s the equivalent of saying taking Kingrise Prime’s buttflap off for a cleaner look is partsforming - it just isn’t
Optional Partsforming isn't true partsforming. If it doesn't have to come off for the transformation, or it would not make the Transformation easier if you do take it off, then it's not a sin.
I'm both Proud and Disappointed you feel that way. I was quite thrilled with how this turned out, though I have been equally proud several other times.
12:46 you see pointblank is one of those misfortune figures who's meant for good but oh BUT they have to cut the budget somewhere else and thats the reason why he doesn't have the god's mistakes arms and an alt mode which is serviceable but for diehard fans he's a bit lackluster. If not for budget i can see that this figure might become one of the best figures with the incorporation of the target master etc
Now that I think about it, wouldnt Lega-cee be a better mold choice to repaint into Cyberverse Chromia than Animated Prowl. I mean, despite she shoulders being a little too broad, it would be a closer resemblance the Chromia and even has the 4 wheels
You are correct, it would make way more sense, though honestly at this point I'm glad to not, cause the mold is over used and only OK, the Prowl mold is a better toy.
I think the lack of a coherent theme might've stifled some of the designers. Trying to design wildly different characters to all fit in the same toy line can't have been easy, going from a car robot one day then a fire ant the next. While some thrive on that, some is not all.
It explains why despite the bad distribution, many of legacy's first year figures have been shelf-forming even into the toyline's third year. There were a few bangers, but most of the series was kind of sub-par. I do at least feel that year 2 was genuinely an evolution in some ways for the toyline. It also stumbled here and there but it came out stronger in my opinion than year one
Fun fact: I don't care about G1 accuracy. To me, I think it's stupid to expect perfection from designs that came from a show that was wildly inconsistent. The reason I'm saying this is because I love every G1 figure from this line. Every one. Especially Elita, and surprisingly Blitzwing. Just wish they did a selects version for a Diaclone scheme, since I think that just that colour change would fix the weird design since it's not trying to be a character.
I don't think G1 accuracy is Vital. That's why I love the TR Blitzwing so much, it wasn't accurate, but it was good. So my problem with the Legacy one is actually it's G1 accuracy. Why is the tank dick there at all. If that part didn't exist it would be a better toy.
6:35-ish you don't need to watch energon before cybertron. cybertron only pays the barest amount of lip service to either energon or armada to the point where it's a different continuity in all but name. with that said you might still not enjoy it given that it's very much in the super robot side of the franchise
I get that, but there's this stupid little voice in the back of my head telling me I need to watch everything first. And maybe. It's a strong possibility I don't care for it. But who knows right now.
@@PerspectiveEnd I met Peter Cullen at a con a little bit ago and I took a photo with him and just sorta stood there because I was nervous lol. I'm thinking about getting the upgrade kit for him. The face doesn't really bother me but I want the poesable fingers.
I don't always agree with you, but I did point-for-point as you went through. One exception: the Knockout to me just needed a better head/face. I could forgive everything else. But that head screams "do a second draft." I also like the imagery of something grasping as well as a "fish climbing a tree." Did you come up with that simile? It definitely is good enough to deserve to be stolen.
I mean isn't that what I said about the head already? As for the fish I don't know, I just looked into it, and Einstine once said "You can't judge a fish by it's ability to climb a tree", so maybe I heard that before, I don't know.
Legacy Bulkhead restarted TF collecting for my son & I because an ugly bulky army truck just appeals to our instincts for some reason. He's an emotional 10/10 to me
Did you know that there was originally going to be a Transformers Legacy tv show but due to how bad the reception of the War for Cybertron trilogy was on Netflix, they scrapped the show
I really think you’re hating too hard on Wildrider and blitzwing, yet not hating enough on dragstrip. I won’t retype it, because I’ve discussed it with you several times. Great vid man.
Blitzwing is basically a RED figure, and Whildrider sucks in every way. Honestly it probably should have been on the worst of year list, but I think I forgot it.
Honestly, I don't necessarily mind Blitzwing's jet mod if the tank turret (which is supposed to be lined up with the rest of his tank kibble) is pulled out under the jet's belly, and has the turret in it's condensed form, as it feels a bit more balanced out to me, as it better makes a visual angle from nosecone to back of jet instead of a harsh 90 degrees. It also kinda reminds me a little of the underbelly turrets on some actual planes, even if the Soviet MiG-25 would never logically have one.
@@PerspectiveEnd The tank is in general passable to me personally, but the nosecone in tank mode was unnecessary and does visually break it at a number of angles.
This is literally the AVGN of Transformers reviews. Those mistransformed shots on the turn table are a nice touch. While I don't hate the Combined Legacy Menasaur since getting Dragstrip, and Wildrider I've felt no compulsion whatsoever to remove them and same will go for Deadend, and Breakdown as I'm only getting them to complete the set. Wildrider being terrible aside how is Hasbro can put out numerous Lambos without fear of infringement but Breakdown can't get any retooling whatsoever. Guess Hasbro figured save on the figure as most will just plug him into the back of the leg and call it a day. Didn't expect much from Jhiaxus mode but turned out pretty great, and while most will subjectively disagree it was a choice mold for Vector Prime with the proportions and the fact he can two hand his sword.
You are not the first to make that AVGN Observation about me. Yeah I'm glad that joke lands so hard with people, I thought it up for my Worst of Year list for 2023 and I knew it's what I needed to do for list videos going forward. Sadly the Vector Prime is now in hand, and it's Trash, they bout Negative 20 dollars into the QC.
I got legacy united bumblebee and if you see him, get him, don't worry about the size He's not as good as I made him out to be. He earns the deluxe price but barely
Can't wait for you to review Legacy Shadowstriker and Detritus to reveal they're the worse toys of their line, showing that I wasted money on the only two goddamn figures I could find
I actually had my dead ends head area snap off. Its where the head attachment tilts back with that pin? Yeah that snapped clear off, paid $45 for a Japan import no less
I bought all three versions of Laser Prime, plan on buying a Magnus one if/when the make it. I really enjoy the mold, much more so than the Reveal the Shield version. That guy always felt off and incomplete. That said, still want an original. None of the remakes of Laser Prime really hit the same notes as the original toy from nearly 30 years ago. That toy still has so much charm and character.
I’m saving a fortune on this line, as there are so many characters I don’t care about or molds that just SUCK. There are some really good ones, like Jhiaxus and Nova Prime, but I’m currently spending more time and money getting Siege figures I missed.
For a small bit I've been watching your vids and while I understand the negativity others have on your opinions, I think your opinions are interesting and shed some new light on things, as for what I think of Legacy, I think it's just fun. One time I went to a school field trip to Universal and the bot I got at the Transformers ride there was the G2 Legacy prime, and that's technically the first Optimus Prime I own. (and I say technically because for a while I had one of those big gimmicky Optimus toys from Prime Beast Hunters) and I like it, I am wanting to get the animated one from United that ones a little more interesting. As for the prime arcee you talked about in the video, I'm one of the many few people who enjoy that one but I also completely understand the problems it has, and now thinking about it if it copied the transformation from the first addition prime arcee and it would've been golden. So ya'know again, I think Legacy's fun. When looking for the United stuff, I recommend getting the new Windblade, it has a big backpack yes but it's relatively the best Windblade so far, you might have different opinions on it but that's always cool💙
I did think going into this video that it would be more positive than it was. It's entirely possible that the fun the line was clearly having even if it wasn't working properly was infectious causing me to think it was better over all. The Funny thing is despite my Negativity I'm one of the people who's nicer to that figure than most. So it's actually weird that I don't cast that thing to the inferno. I hope you like the new Windblade more than I.
I feel like half of this “distribution problem” has nothing to do with Hasbro and has everything to do with the stores only stocking shelves whenever they have room for more stuff to go out. I have seen Legacy evolution wave one as well as legacy wave one in Walmart and I don’t think it has anything to do with new product I think has everything to do with old product not being moved. Not to mention one in three Walmart Employees is literally tweaking on the job, it is a miracle there are items to buy in the first place man after you see some of the workforce
Me and my friend tried to watch through the entire Unicron trilogy. We gave up on energon and skipped to Cybertron and we’ve been having a blast. You really don’t need to watch energon to watch Cybertron.
@@PerspectiveEnd you must pummel it worse than you bear ER Cliffjumper. Trust me you genuinely do not need to have any context even if they attempted to dub it to fit the other 2. God Energon sucked. We got half way through and we both realized we were just in our phones the whole time and we quit. And we’re happy we did
Growing up in the kind of poverty that results in your parents being so butthurt about their relationship relationship drama that they’ll financially screw over one another, I went through my whole life not asking for really REALLY good toys because it became an instinct of mine to assume they either couldn’t afford it or they weren’t in the mood. I actually enjoy the Legacy Evolution Blitzwing & I’m glad I have it. I brought up my childhood bullshit because maybe you could tell me if I grew up to have bad taste or if I’m more capable of focusing on the good than the bad. You’ve apparently got money to spend so you probably know best on that topic.
I can't profess to being Rich or anything like that. It's just that this is my job as I see it, and I need to cover everything for my fans. So most of the figures wind up paying for them selves, but I'd be lying if I said this wasn't Financially unwise. And I'm sorry to hear about your home life growing up. As for your taste, I don't know that I can judge based off just that one figure. Blitzwing again makes for a Great Robot mode, it's just the altmodes that REALLY frustrate.
@@PerspectiveEnd I definitely relate on the distaste for kibble. The jet mode in particular is worse. There’s tank in the jet mode than there is jet in the tank mode. Although when I noticed that it made me think of animated blitzwing. The treads are the kibble for the jet mode & since he’s a triple changer I think it makes sense. I think that either mode being a 75/25% hybrid is a good explanation for the kibble. If they gave that sort of explanation in a show or movie I for one would actually like that.
I’ll be honest with prime Arcee, if they had used a regular waist and not a ball joint I’d love it a lot more than I do and even then I still like it a fair bit, even if the leg part can be a bit finicky at times
As someone who got the entire Menasor set, it was such a let down and I spent WAY too much money on it. I went to Universal Studios to buy Motormaster and spent $150 on him. Then like $45 on Breakdown and Wild Rider at Walmart (never buy from Walmart online). I regret it everyday, and I just want to sell the whole team for like $225 on ebay.
Siege was nearly perfect. Earthrise was a stinker with only a few gems. Kingdom was a mixed bag, with some great figures, some horrible, and most just middle of the road. Can you guess where Legacy year 1 ends up for me? I’d give it as a whole a 7/10. There are fantastic figures like Bulkhead, Tarantulas, Jhiaxus, TMII Megs, Inferno, Armada Starscream, Iguanus, 2/5 of Menasor, and Cybertron Metroplex. However, there are also turds like Pointblank, Prime Arcee, Wild Rider, Core Hot Rod, Bomb-Burst and Shitwing (we sacrificed the Titans Return mold for THIS?!). And then we have about average ones like baby Shockwave, Skids/Crankcase, Kickback, Dead End, Skullgrin, and the Siege/Kingdom repacks (only picked up space Soundwave for being clean and he’s actually pretty fun; my only experience with Blaster is Evolution Twincast and he’s fantastic; no experience with Galvy).
Addendum: somebody tries to resurrect Starscream but fricks it up so he has amnesia, and before he can ever recover any of his memories, Megatron mind rapes his into basically being G1 Starscream
@@PerspectiveEnd IDK. I just think of it as similar to the aligned continuity where they stop caring about continuity every series. The real question you need to ask yourself is “are you really going to deny yourself the majesty that is Cybertron Thunderblast over one of the worst series of the franchise?”
@@PerspectiveEnd yes. but that didn't stick, it only dislodged the alpha-quintensson and scorponok from his bowels (that's facetious, energon-scorponok is actually a pretty good figure). the bulletpoint of the serie beaks down into:- it's season 3 of g1 but armada the minicon, ALL MINICON except perceptor are gone, now the're the omnicon which are just cybertonian dwarves unicron is alive, and scorponok is using megatron own and very well known sword to call back the decepticons to collect energon for the big guy autobots can play leapfrog-combiner, optimus is his own powercorecombiner megatron is alive and take controll of uncron decapitated comatose body, starscream isn't a character, just an amnesiac with no personality tidal wave gets an in-lore explanation for the fractal thunder deco on his toy cyclonus get almost killed and reverse-86-movie'ed into -thunderwarp- snowcat, the earliest transformers gijoe crossover, and later demolishor get rebuilt into demolisher (or viceversa, all dubs disagree on this), making them more unhinged the battle move to cybetron proper. the generic wind dagger is rebuilt into optimus powerup wind saber not-shockwave is a betrayer. he get squashed. omega supreme is the weird powerfull guy, he becomes the other powerup for optimus. tidal wave is destroyed, he's rebuilt into mirage, the most gay transformers of the franchise (intended as literally a stereotypical homosexual, not as an insult) the combiners are here. it's 3 team formed by a chest, 2 molds and 2 recolors. they do not separate or transform. galvatron get pissed off, eats unicron becoming himself the giant, loses his mind, optimus combines with omega supreme, grows to haslab size and insult galvatron into committing sudoku as he wasn't the megatron of armada final episode no more everything else is pointless, and really NONE of this matter once you reach episode 3 of cybertron
10:14 I'm so over about being bothered by Blitzwing's alternate modes. Truth be told, I prefer Astrotrain over Blitzwing, since a train and a space shuttle is more compatible shape-wise in comparison to the tank and fighter jet that Blitzwing has. Legacy Blitzwing is just alright, and I can accept that his two alternate modes are just incompatible without kibble from one mode appearing in the other, I think it has a charm, and I'm no stickler for accuracy. The fact that the Legacy jet has more underkibble than his G1 counterpart is questionable though. Overall, I think it's a fun toy and the triple-changer kibble doesn't ruin it for me personally.
I do feel you on that, and at least we did get a really solid Astrotrain in Siege/ER. Unfortunately I just think we got a Way Better Blitzwing in TR, so this isn't an upgrade to me.
I think I am the only one who liked bomb burst, It allows you to make what you can out of it. When I am bored the first thing I start doing is creating my own silly fanmodes. I love the alt mode. Yeah hes a shellformer but I have gotten around that and warmed up to the figure
With united just starting when can we expect to see the evolution retrospective? I really enjoy these as someone who can't always get all the figures I'd like to. It's just nice to look back on the line as a whole and appreciate what i did get.
I plan to do it sooner rather than later yes. And I'm glad to hear that these videos have that effect on you. Also are you Alicia Kobayashi, or am I mistaken?
Thankfully you didn't do that, and the Icon at the same time, because then I would have lost track of you. Too many people change both at once, and then I start to worry cause I haven't heard from them in a while (Or so I think) or they just launch into a conversation with me like I'm supposed to remember one we already had, when I don't know who I'm talking to.
@@PerspectiveEnd luckily I very rarely change my icon, the name however on here at least is all youtubes fault as part of an update, also I do apologise if you haven't heard from me in a while, since late November I had major burnout with transformers and stopped buying them and watching content based on them but now I'm back on board and I'm enjoying them again, so I'm slowly catching up on your videos that I missed 💜
I got Legacy Knockout recently because it was cheap, and I have just discovered how I never liked the Jazz mold and its pathetic knees. Its basically just a model car based on his alt mode on my shelf now.
You make some solid points, especially for Blitzwing and the Pretenders. I hard disagree with you about the Stunticons. I love the set sans Breakdown. Maybe a little on Dead End's QC issue in car mode. Bulkhead is straight awesome. I just wish he had a better reach with his arms. I don't care for the Prime Arcee mold even though I own 3 of it (PArcee, Road Rocket, Ariel). Knock Out really did get a meh robot with a fantastic car mode. All the Beast Wars stuff RULES. Pointblank NEED the upgrade kits and Toyhax labels to raise him from terrible to okay. The only Insecticon I thought they missed the mark on was Bombshell, and I don't get the hate for Skids or his mold mates other than color. All in all, Legacy Year 1 was hit and miss but it does get a bit better.
My problem with the Wildrider and Breakdown, is just that they feel like a Downgrade on the CW versions. When most of the engineering is the same, where did our money go. It's smaller, it's tolerances are worse, it's clearances are worse, the elbows bend less. Like I'd have been pretty ok with it if it was the same thing as the CW, but had a serious posing upgrade. And outside of feet, it really didn't. I only have 2 of the Arcee, and I wish the only one I had was Flamewar, which is one of the ones I didn't pick up. And the thing about Pointblank, is it's my personal Philosophy to only REWARD good figures with Upgrade kits. If you are trying to make a bad figure tollerable, then you are just throwing good money after bad. I don't hate the Skids my self. I think the toy is a little dull, but it's perfectly fine. I personally actually really enjoy the burnout version.
@@PerspectiveEnd I too wish I had picked up Flame War, which again is weird to me considering that it isn't a mold I am fond of. I do think the upgrade kit is warranted in Pointblank's case BUT if a 3rd party made a better figure of him in WFC/Legacy scale I would rather have that. Still, I had a lot of fun messing around with the Stunticons before I finally got Motormaster, but I wish Breakdown had a proper vehicle mode.
5:54 that will do, I still think it’s the best chug combiner by far or at least better than the combiner wars menasor, although I’m only gonna get motormaster anyways
One thing to keep in mind is that Legacy was the first year of the current design team, the old team retired/moved on after Kingdom.
That explains allot
They've done really well
Well that explains why almost every figure in wave 1 wasn’t MID
Dang that was their first year? Actually kinda impressive.
where did you come across this information?
Imagine movie universe, devastator being in Legacy United
I’d be amazed if a toy like that actually exists at some point
I don’t think they will ever top the Studio Series Devastator since it’s such a wonky combiner 😩
Considering they just did that in Studio Series like 2 years ago, I don't see that happening.
I can’t believe how fast time is going now. Like I can’t believe legacy year 1 is two years old now, I feel old
It's more like a year and a half, but how do you think I feel, I started reviewing in Earthrise.
@@PerspectiveEnd I stated collecting during the first wave of SS86 freshman year now I’m a senior
Its probably because year 1 legacy stock is still shelfwarming (at least where i live)
That segment of that Bomburst figure scattered into pieces had me in hysterics for ages
I'm glad you liked that one so much. Personally I liked the two who were standing on their kibble most my self.
Legacy so far
Y1) Practically an extension of kingdom
Y2) Testing and capitalizing on the demand for different continuities
Y3) Goin’ Bananas 3: in 3-D
What's that about year 3? 3D?
My POV on Legacy
Legacy year 1: Wait, people like it when we’re accurate to something other than a 40-something cartoon that’s not even accurate to itself? (Bulkhead is good and Knock Out is alright, but Arcee is definitely the worst of year 1 when it comes to unnecessary G1ification)
Evolution: Indeed an evolution in the right direction, but not without its stinkers
United: We haven’t had a bad figure aside from “Cyberverse” Chromia and even then she’s a retool of an already good mold
Legacy, we have energon weapons.
Ok why? What do they do?
Legacy, we don’t know? But get ready for evo-fusion.
Side note. My local Walmart still has a peg full of Skids and 4 Galvatrons & Blitzwings
Also-also where’s my Beast Machines Tankor & Jetstorm?
Oh Blitziwng is everywhere, and I don't think he's going anywhere.
As for Tankor and Jetstorm, hopefully eventually. Though please no other BM characters.
@@PerspectiveEnd agreed
14:51
What a coincidence, my starscream’s *right* leg keeps coming off when I dared to use the swivel
I love how they initially had that energon weapon gimmick but forgot about it after like 2 waves
Cant wait for the legacy evolution retrospective, very intrested to see the bashing of tarn's shoulders again
I actually did complete legacy menasor and frankly I have no regrets with doing so being the first comnbiner I ever completed (I got in too late into combiner wars and I missed power of the primes due to being power of the primes) honestly I feel that each member ranges from just inoffensive to really good and I love how they look as a team and when combined
I'm glad to hear that you appreciate that thing more than me. It is a special event to complete your first combiner.
Same thing for me, if you don’t count my ko superion where silverbolts arm fell off. The figures go for insane prices on the aftermarket so it felt like a miracle every time I found one
Legacy is my favorite line since Animated. Very impressed.
Like as a whole taking Evolution and United into account, or just year 1?
@@PerspectiveEnd Yeah, Evolution and United included.
9:30 “as we can see here it’s a wild rider alt mode attempting to hunt the poor old litte wheelie alt mode but fortunately for the wheelie the wild rider is so shit that it can’t move”
I'm still seeing quite a lot of these figures at my walmarts and targets, I'll always be seeing legarcees, kickbacks, skids, crankcase, blitzwings, and armada Starscreams, oh and also like 20-30 coronation starscreams that refuse to go on clearance, and yet a month in and still no new things
I got lucky and found Bludegeon and Shrapnel at a Walmart. Still seeing lots of legacy figures, though the Strongarm wave from Evolution looks to be a close second, with SS85 Arcee and Airazor also being peg warmers.
Over here, it's TOOOOOONS of Blitzwings, and a lot of Jhiaxuss, and Starscreams.
@@PerspectiveEnd So, so many starscreams, both kind
Wow the retrospectives haven’t been here for a while and now there back and I am happy
I've never laughed so hard at a review 10/10. We have different views on some of these figures but I love the digs. Truly a great roast.
Proud to hear that.
I think legacy is my favourite line as it give more designs especially really obscure ones like jhiaxus a shine. And some absolute bangers like armada prime,tarn,the nemesis,victory saber etc.
Same man. All the unreleased G2 toys getting modern renditions was crazy news for anyone who likes obscure history. Same for the things you mentioned, and just more Japanese stuff like Galaxy Shuttle, Metalhawk, Minerva
It is super cool to see that, I just wish the Quality were a bit higher consistantly. Figures like Starscream should not be ruined by their QC, and Figures like Kickback should not be so underengineered.
The Stuntacon set was so infuriating to me. Not because I don’t like them I actually really like it. (It just sits up on a shelf in combine mode), but from how hard it was to pick up every figure besides Dragstrip and Breakdown. Seriously it took me a year to finally be able to pickup Motor Master on Amazon that wasn’t $180, and by the time I did I spent nearly $190 on two commander class as my Armada Prime came literally 3 days later.
Distribution has been ridiculously bad since this line came out.
Dragon megs and motormaster are easily the 2 best of the line
Too bad Motormaster will never be complete without all the limb bots, and too many of them suck.
@@PerspectiveEnd too true
"The looking forward to rid prime" vid I'm talking about
Legacy: The year of MID
I wouldn't say that. There were great figures in there, and TERRIBLE ones, it averages mid, but the Median figure is not mid.
@@PerspectiveEnd Yeah the average being mid was the point I was trying to get at.
I cant believe my stores STILL HAVE LEGACY YEAR 1 FIGURES
I'm actually seeing Tarantulas show up for the first time at my local walmarts, and Jhiaxus and Starscream are everywhere.
6:37 there is no continuity at all between the 2 just watch Cybertron you basically need to no nothing going into it (what little continuity does exist is just Hasbro changing the dub to try and force it to make sense)
There's just a dumb voice in my head telling me I can't do that.
@@PerspectiveEnd you ever considered watching the Japanese version of Energon then? It’s genuinely great, it turned energon from one of my least favorite to my like 2nd favorite Transformers show. Superlink is sooooo good.
Knockout would have been way better if he had his proper noseguard
Agreed.
While a few pleasant surprises, Legacy wave 1 came up short.
Sadly you are correct.
7:18 I don’t own that Elita but I like it, it looks cute and the alt is closer to her alt more in G1 than the her last 2 toys
To be fair that's not a High Bar to cross. Her last two toys were the PotP and the ER, and both of those were TRYING to take liberties.
Ik you’ve probably heard this a million times but even in America, Cybertron really isn’t a sequel to Energon. There’s a throwaway line about Unicrons death in Energon being the catalyst for the whole story(if I remember correctly… I was 6). And an Energon character or two cameo in the final episode of the show and they don’t even talk, but that’s pretty much it. The show blatantly contradicts Energon and Armada like I’m pretty sure it’s the autobots first time ever on Earth when they arrive. When two characters combine, someone says something about having never seen two transform combine like that before… even though that was the whole gimmick of Energon… etc etc.
I get that, but there's still this stupid little voice in my head telling me I can't.
7:30 personal preference, I love earthspark elita design
Most of it is good, it's just the face that's haunting, like all the faces in Earthspark.
Legacy was when I truly got into transformers, learning about the community was so much fun. However it’s also when I learned about the horrors of hasbro QC. 😢
I'm glad to have you in the fandom. There was a lot to love with these recent lines, it's just too bad it wasn't all loveable.
Omega pride is called omega, prime when ultra Magnus and Optimus prime combine in Japan. It’s called God fire convoy.
Indeed, I have no explanation other than I'm stupid and I forgot, but in my Defence it's been over 20 years since I last watched the show.
I got Legacy Bombshell a while back for my birthday and I'd say the worst part about him is the risk of losing the partsforming guns for his insect mode, so otherwise he's surprisingly decent.
Skids needed his beautiful Diaclone yellow eyes.
Skids is very mid
@@I.709 I wouldn't say the mold itself is though. I quite like Crankcase. Just needed sprucing up it seems.
@@alexlemonds2838 good point
You and your yellow eyes.
@@PerspectiveEndIt's the best eye color in TF.
Here in the Land Down Under, we have such weird distribution. We can get exclusives really easily, but regular releases just don't show up. There were so many SS 102 Optimus Primes on the shelf, but Core Class Swoop and Snarl never made it here, so we literally can't complete Volcanicus without importing from overseas. Also no Dreadwing.
Indonesian here and we also haven't seen Bludgeon and Dreadwing.
@@hypertech116 we got a bunch of Bludgeons, but I only ever saw one Twincast (which I got) and one Tarn
Yeah, I'm hearing so many strange things from Australia. Like you guys are getting things MONTHS before I think there's even a chance they end up here, but then you don't git other stuff EVER.
@@PerspectiveEnd we got Motormaster before everyone else, but at the same time one of our local stores only recently (within the past month or so) started stocking Legacy Evo Wave ONE and SS86 Ironhide
I don't know if you remember my comment on your starscream video, but I owe you an apology, after messing with it more I realised that I had the qc issue on BOTH my legs, which seemed to have just gotten worse over time which is why I didn't notice it at first. But you were right.
Also the way I view legacy, is just how fun it was, (like how you mentioned in your trash master video) sure there were a lot of not great ones, but most every figure I got was just fun. Like how we got a lot of cool and somewhat obscure characters, Gimmicks kinda came back with laser prime as well. Legacy felt more like toys than just display pieces, which reminded me why I collect in the first place. (to have fun)
I don't remember the comment, but it's fine, even if I didn't I wouldn't take any offence to anything you said, and I'm just sorry to hear that yours is now doing the thing that everyone else's is doing.
And yes, I will say that despite the quality of a lot of the toys, what legacy seems to have done is captured a sense of fun and surprise.
8:38 that part made me laugh
That was a lot of peoples favorite moment.
Perspective I finally got laser prime and your review was actually very accurate and Its now one of my favorites in my collection. Also a figure I highly recommend you review is thrilling 30 sky byte. To me its a phenomenal figure
Wait they made a T30 Skybyte?
And I'm glad that you are liking the Optimus so much, though I would recommend never getting another. It's a great figure to have ONCE.
If you look at the Box of the 1988 Pretenders Skullgrin you can see the vehicle mode looks pretty much identical to what we got in Legacy aside from a few things being a little bit different. so while the concept art was really cool, they didn’t just invent some nothingness here it is actually trying to be the old toy’s alt mode
They did capture the old design quite well yes.
Just got revenge of the fallen long haul for a good price of 20 bucks
Nice! Congrats.
I don’t care what y’all say,the legacy stunticons are one of the best combiners
Like as a team, or just as Menasor? Because if it's just Menasor, then wouldn't it be just as good as a large figure, if the component bots like Wildrider are TRASH?
I ain't accepting any Cybertron Metroplex slander
Well then what are you gonna do about it huh? Come at me bro!
@@PerspectiveEnd I'll throw my Transformers Generations Legacy Titan Class Metroplex at you!! (But gently I don't like hurting people badly)
Transmetal 2 megatron my beloved. None of my other figures besides armada prime have anywhere near the presence he has.
Totally Understandable why. The Bright red, the Wingspan, the image, man stands out in the best ways.
Blitzwings probably my favorite Triple Changer figure.
And why is that?
@PerspectiveEnd ROCKET BOOSTED TANK!!!!
I watched Cybertron standalone. Really, you don't need to see Energon
I know, but there's this stupid little voice in the back of my head telling me I need to.
I always find I don't agree with about half of your opinions in these videos, but I still really enjoy how you express them.Your presenting style is really funny, well done mate.
I'm in the UK and I did alright with the last few Kingdom / Legacy / SS86 really. I think I got most of what I wanted for reasonable price, but I paid £35 for Cosmos ( about $45 ) and - you're going to hate this - £40 for Dead End ( about $50 ) because I had all of the other ones and I wanted the complete set. I did only pay £45 for Motormaster in a sale when he was costing £90 everywhere else though, so it balanced out I guess!
I really enjoyed Iguanus too and also thought Bombshell was a 2/3 at best. Boo.
Thank you so much, I'm proud to hear that.
Oof that's painful to hear, did you at least like those two, or was it not worth the money?
Hoping for more IDW figures, we need a Nautica and official CHUGs of mtmte Rodimus and Megatron.
Nautica is sooooooo Desperately needed.
I think that this video really reminds me of the “the budget is allocated for the entire wave” rule, some are godly amazing, and some are dookie.
After seeing this video about Legacy Retrospective (and knowing Hasbro kinda feel off in sales in 2023), I can imagine the next Retrospective about Legacy Evolution starting with "it has a lot of promises", until digesting the figures one by one only to turn out it's more underwhelming with some being great while the rest just sucks.
We will find out when I make that video, but I still hope it will be better.
@@PerspectiveEnd Hope that's the case.
Either way, still have doubts until then
I have a theory that Legacy Bulkie was a mold Hasbro had laying around for a while and didn't know what/when to use it, nor what universe to put it under, so, they released it under the Aligned Continuity/Prime Universe, and called it a day.
Countertheory: he was meant to be a what-if G1 Bulkhead before the idea of doing designs from all the Transformers media minus the movies became the central focus of Legacy/Evolution/United and he was promptly given a Prime Bulkhead noggin in order to match up with his wavemate Arcee.
@@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho That's pretty much what I said.
The little Shockwave is mostly inoffensive but the head is annoying when I try to transform it.
Why do you find the head to be annoying.
@@PerspectiveEnd it doesn't want to fold down during transformation.
Your fan mode for skullgrin looks like one of the tanks out of Voltron
Well I can't lay claim to it, it's just a fan mode that was out there, but that means it at least looks like a tank.
0:51
Regarding figure shipping, where i live its kinda an issue considering the only figures i was able to find a lot of from legacy were either legend, elita-1, galvatron and laser prime. Which kinda sucks considering i barely order anything onlin.
Oh, its' a huge issue for me to, you have no idea the lengths I have to go to to get a lot of these figures.
8:37 "avgn moment"
That was a lot of peoples favorite moment.
Its funny, me and my friend were actually arguing about how bad legacee truly was. He thought that she was a partsformer just because the backpack bits came off in robot mode, which isn’t the definition of partsforming like…at all. It’s the equivalent of saying taking Kingrise Prime’s buttflap off for a cleaner look is partsforming - it just isn’t
Optional Partsforming isn't true partsforming. If it doesn't have to come off for the transformation, or it would not make the Transformation easier if you do take it off, then it's not a sin.
Do you have United Chase yet? Are you planning on getting one? I recommend it.
Hes got Hot Rod shoulders and he didnt like it from promo pics alr so i assume hed hate it lol
I have one, I want to do a review of it soon.
This has to be the best script, you have ever written for any of your videos.
I'm both Proud and Disappointed you feel that way. I was quite thrilled with how this turned out, though I have been equally proud several other times.
stumbled a lot, but opened the gates for awesomeness in Legacy Evolution. Ready for the (still unconfirmed) trailer of TF One?
I hope the conclusion is happier when I do get into Evolution's Retrospective.
I am interested to see what it is for sure.
12:46 you see pointblank is one of those misfortune figures who's meant for good but oh BUT they have to cut the budget somewhere else and thats the reason why he doesn't have the god's mistakes arms and an alt mode which is serviceable but for diehard fans he's a bit lackluster. If not for budget i can see that this figure might become one of the best figures with the incorporation of the target master etc
Honestly, I'd much prefer them to cut the Figure all together and give it's budget to Wildrider and Breakdown.
I bought The Primeverse knockout for 1 reason: Custom paint it into barricade!
It could work as a TLK Barricade yeah.
@@PerspectiveEnd Presicely! That's who I turned it into!
Whatever the quality was for any given figure,THEY MADE A COMBINER WITH WFC ENGINEERING! that's gotta be some brownie points
I mean does it? The combiner is already cheating a LOT and they still couldn't get it right.
@@PerspectiveEnd in heinsight, yeah, its really just a man with cars slapped on him
Can't wait for part 2 with legacy evolution and a part 3 with legacy universe.
The Menasor combo, in Killer Instinct.
Dragstrip: *paff-boff*
Motormaster: *thrack-thrack-zap*
Wildrid- C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!
I don't know what those first two attacks are supposed to be, but CCCCOMBO BREAKER is just the most satisfying thing I ever heard growing up.
Dead end: depression attack
@PerspectiveEnd just generic onomaatapoeia (I DEFINATELY spelt that wrong). Nothing missed. I barely touched KI, but Combo Breaker is just perfect.
Now that I think about it, wouldnt Lega-cee be a better mold choice to repaint into Cyberverse Chromia than Animated Prowl. I mean, despite she shoulders being a little too broad, it would be a closer resemblance the Chromia and even has the 4 wheels
You are correct, it would make way more sense, though honestly at this point I'm glad to not, cause the mold is over used and only OK, the Prowl mold is a better toy.
I think the lack of a coherent theme might've stifled some of the designers. Trying to design wildly different characters to all fit in the same toy line can't have been easy, going from a car robot one day then a fire ant the next. While some thrive on that, some is not all.
I can understand that point of view.
It explains why despite the bad distribution, many of legacy's first year figures have been shelf-forming even into the toyline's third year. There were a few bangers, but most of the series was kind of sub-par.
I do at least feel that year 2 was genuinely an evolution in some ways for the toyline. It also stumbled here and there but it came out stronger in my opinion than year one
I mean to be fair things like Jhaixus is also Shelfwarming right now.
8:38 to 8:46 best part of the video
I'm glad so many people really appreciated that part... I'm just happy I managed to do it in one take.
Fun fact: I don't care about G1 accuracy. To me, I think it's stupid to expect perfection from designs that came from a show that was wildly inconsistent. The reason I'm saying this is because I love every G1 figure from this line. Every one. Especially Elita, and surprisingly Blitzwing. Just wish they did a selects version for a Diaclone scheme, since I think that just that colour change would fix the weird design since it's not trying to be a character.
I don't think G1 accuracy is Vital. That's why I love the TR Blitzwing so much, it wasn't accurate, but it was good. So my problem with the Legacy one is actually it's G1 accuracy. Why is the tank dick there at all. If that part didn't exist it would be a better toy.
6:35-ish you don't need to watch energon before cybertron. cybertron only pays the barest amount of lip service to either energon or armada to the point where it's a different continuity in all but name.
with that said you might still not enjoy it given that it's very much in the super robot side of the franchise
I get that, but there's this stupid little voice in the back of my head telling me I need to watch everything first.
And maybe. It's a strong possibility I don't care for it. But who knows right now.
12:32 Oddly specific there PE
Edit: Just got TM 2 Megatron, he is easily my favorite figure!
Hoverhand is a hell of a Drug.
I'm so happy to hear that. He just rules.
@@PerspectiveEnd I met Peter Cullen at a con a little bit ago and I took a photo with him and just sorta stood there because I was nervous lol.
I'm thinking about getting the upgrade kit for him. The face doesn't really bother me but I want the poesable fingers.
I don't always agree with you, but I did point-for-point as you went through. One exception: the Knockout to me just needed a better head/face. I could forgive everything else. But that head screams "do a second draft." I also like the imagery of something grasping as well as a "fish climbing a tree." Did you come up with that simile? It definitely is good enough to deserve to be stolen.
I mean isn't that what I said about the head already?
As for the fish I don't know, I just looked into it, and Einstine once said "You can't judge a fish by it's ability to climb a tree", so maybe I heard that before, I don't know.
Legacy Bulkhead restarted TF collecting for my son & I because an ugly bulky army truck just appeals to our instincts for some reason. He's an emotional 10/10 to me
Did you know that there was originally going to be a Transformers Legacy tv show but due to how bad the reception of the War for Cybertron trilogy was on Netflix, they scrapped the show
I had heard that yes.
My dead end is a defect that makes it better
And what is that Defect?
I really think you’re hating too hard on Wildrider and blitzwing, yet not hating enough on dragstrip. I won’t retype it, because I’ve discussed it with you several times. Great vid man.
Blitzwing is basically a RED figure, and Whildrider sucks in every way. Honestly it probably should have been on the worst of year list, but I think I forgot it.
Point blank's pose... 😂
I was going for as creepy as possible.
Honestly, I don't necessarily mind Blitzwing's jet mod if the tank turret (which is supposed to be lined up with the rest of his tank kibble) is pulled out under the jet's belly, and has the turret in it's condensed form, as it feels a bit more balanced out to me, as it better makes a visual angle from nosecone to back of jet instead of a harsh 90 degrees. It also kinda reminds me a little of the underbelly turrets on some actual planes, even if the Soviet MiG-25 would never logically have one.
The Jetmode offends me less too, but how do you feel about the tank?
@@PerspectiveEnd The tank is in general passable to me personally, but the nosecone in tank mode was unnecessary and does visually break it at a number of angles.
This is literally the AVGN of Transformers reviews. Those mistransformed shots on the turn table are a nice touch. While I don't hate the Combined Legacy Menasaur since getting Dragstrip, and Wildrider I've felt no compulsion whatsoever to remove them and same will go for Deadend, and Breakdown as I'm only getting them to complete the set. Wildrider being terrible aside how is Hasbro can put out numerous Lambos without fear of infringement but Breakdown can't get any retooling whatsoever. Guess Hasbro figured save on the figure as most will just plug him into the back of the leg and call it a day. Didn't expect much from Jhiaxus mode but turned out pretty great, and while most will subjectively disagree it was a choice mold for Vector Prime with the proportions and the fact he can two hand his sword.
You are not the first to make that AVGN Observation about me. Yeah I'm glad that joke lands so hard with people, I thought it up for my Worst of Year list for 2023 and I knew it's what I needed to do for list videos going forward.
Sadly the Vector Prime is now in hand, and it's Trash, they bout Negative 20 dollars into the QC.
I got legacy united bumblebee and if you see him, get him, don't worry about the size
He's not as good as I made him out to be. He earns the deluxe price but barely
I hope to like him when I find him.
Can't wait for you to review Legacy Shadowstriker and Detritus to reveal they're the worse toys of their line, showing that I wasted money on the only two goddamn figures I could find
I need to get around to doing Shadow Striker already.
@@PerspectiveEnd Please tell me she isn't like Deadend or Wildrider
I actually had my dead ends head area snap off. Its where the head attachment tilts back with that pin? Yeah that snapped clear off, paid $45 for a Japan import no less
That sucks so bad. I'm sorry to hear that.
Bought both the Inferno and Kickback based on your reviews. Hasbro owes you money
They can owe me what ever. All I care about is weather or not you enjoyed them.
5:20 I am still hoping to get another prime one day so I can kick er to the curb. Preferably the siege as I missed it
Well they are making an 86 Commander Class one soon.
@@PerspectiveEnd wait they are? They better add some battle damage parts so you can recreate the most iconic scene he had in that film
I bought all three versions of Laser Prime, plan on buying a Magnus one if/when the make it. I really enjoy the mold, much more so than the Reveal the Shield version. That guy always felt off and incomplete. That said, still want an original. None of the remakes of Laser Prime really hit the same notes as the original toy from nearly 30 years ago. That toy still has so much charm and character.
I’m saving a fortune on this line, as there are so many characters I don’t care about or molds that just SUCK.
There are some really good ones, like Jhiaxus and Nova Prime, but I’m currently spending more time and money getting Siege figures I missed.
There are benefits to a line having a lot of stinkers and you found some of them.
For a small bit I've been watching your vids and while I understand the negativity others have on your opinions, I think your opinions are interesting and shed some new light on things, as for what I think of Legacy, I think it's just fun.
One time I went to a school field trip to Universal and the bot I got at the Transformers ride there was the G2 Legacy prime, and that's technically the first Optimus Prime I own. (and I say technically because for a while I had one of those big gimmicky Optimus toys from Prime Beast Hunters) and I like it, I am wanting to get the animated one from United that ones a little more interesting.
As for the prime arcee you talked about in the video, I'm one of the many few people who enjoy that one but I also completely understand the problems it has, and now thinking about it if it copied the transformation from the first addition prime arcee and it would've been golden.
So ya'know again, I think Legacy's fun. When looking for the United stuff, I recommend getting the new Windblade, it has a big backpack yes but it's relatively the best Windblade so far, you might have different opinions on it but that's always cool💙
I did think going into this video that it would be more positive than it was. It's entirely possible that the fun the line was clearly having even if it wasn't working properly was infectious causing me to think it was better over all.
The Funny thing is despite my Negativity I'm one of the people who's nicer to that figure than most. So it's actually weird that I don't cast that thing to the inferno.
I hope you like the new Windblade more than I.
I feel like half of this “distribution problem” has nothing to do with Hasbro and has everything to do with the stores only stocking shelves whenever they have room for more stuff to go out. I have seen Legacy evolution wave one as well as legacy wave one in Walmart and I don’t think it has anything to do with new product I think has everything to do with old product not being moved. Not to mention one in three Walmart Employees is literally tweaking on the job, it is a miracle there are items to buy in the first place man after you see some of the workforce
To be fair a lot of these figures are not selling because they just aren't up to snuff, or are getting over produced.
Video idea a retrospective of the original beast wars toyline
Me and my friend tried to watch through the entire Unicron trilogy. We gave up on energon and skipped to Cybertron and we’ve been having a blast. You really don’t need to watch energon to watch Cybertron.
I know, but at the same time, there's this dumb little voice in my head that says I can't do that.
@@PerspectiveEnd you must pummel it worse than you bear ER Cliffjumper. Trust me you genuinely do not need to have any context even if they attempted to dub it to fit the other 2. God Energon sucked. We got half way through and we both realized we were just in our phones the whole time and we quit. And we’re happy we did
Or maybe watch Energon at 2x speed lol
Growing up in the kind of poverty that results in your parents being so butthurt about their relationship relationship drama that they’ll financially screw over one another, I went through my whole life not asking for really REALLY good toys because it became an instinct of mine to assume they either couldn’t afford it or they weren’t in the mood. I actually enjoy the Legacy Evolution Blitzwing & I’m glad I have it. I brought up my childhood bullshit because maybe you could tell me if I grew up to have bad taste or if I’m more capable of focusing on the good than the bad. You’ve apparently got money to spend so you probably know best on that topic.
I can't profess to being Rich or anything like that. It's just that this is my job as I see it, and I need to cover everything for my fans. So most of the figures wind up paying for them selves, but I'd be lying if I said this wasn't Financially unwise.
And I'm sorry to hear about your home life growing up.
As for your taste, I don't know that I can judge based off just that one figure. Blitzwing again makes for a Great Robot mode, it's just the altmodes that REALLY frustrate.
@@PerspectiveEnd I definitely relate on the distaste for kibble. The jet mode in particular is worse. There’s tank in the jet mode than there is jet in the tank mode. Although when I noticed that it made me think of animated blitzwing. The treads are the kibble for the jet mode & since he’s a triple changer I think it makes sense. I think that either mode being a 75/25% hybrid is a good explanation for the kibble. If they gave that sort of explanation in a show or movie I for one would actually like that.
I’ll be honest with prime Arcee, if they had used a regular waist and not a ball joint I’d love it a lot more than I do and even then I still like it a fair bit, even if the leg part can be a bit finicky at times
That might have been a lot better.
As someone who got the entire Menasor set, it was such a let down and I spent WAY too much money on it. I went to Universal Studios to buy Motormaster and spent $150 on him. Then like $45 on Breakdown and Wild Rider at Walmart (never buy from Walmart online). I regret it everyday, and I just want to sell the whole team for like $225 on ebay.
I'm sorry to hear that. It sucks that you had to over pay, and the fact that one of those over pays was for one of the only good members tainting it.
hmm wonder what will come after legacy?
Legacy 2, electric boogaloo.
Siege was nearly perfect. Earthrise was a stinker with only a few gems. Kingdom was a mixed bag, with some great figures, some horrible, and most just middle of the road.
Can you guess where Legacy year 1 ends up for me?
I’d give it as a whole a 7/10. There are fantastic figures like Bulkhead, Tarantulas, Jhiaxus, TMII Megs, Inferno, Armada Starscream, Iguanus, 2/5 of Menasor, and Cybertron Metroplex. However, there are also turds like Pointblank, Prime Arcee, Wild Rider, Core Hot Rod, Bomb-Burst and Shitwing (we sacrificed the Titans Return mold for THIS?!).
And then we have about average ones like baby Shockwave, Skids/Crankcase, Kickback, Dead End, Skullgrin, and the Siege/Kingdom repacks (only picked up space Soundwave for being clean and he’s actually pretty fun; my only experience with Blaster is Evolution Twincast and he’s fantastic; no experience with Galvy).
For me I realized after rewatching my own video, it's kind of got Kingdom Syndrome. It started pretty good, but petered out real bad by the end.
They blow up Unicron and he becomes a black hole.
There you’re caught up on what happens in Energon.
Now watch Cybertron.
Addendum: somebody tries to resurrect Starscream but fricks it up so he has amnesia, and before he can ever recover any of his memories, Megatron mind rapes his into basically being G1 Starscream
Impressively little matters then. Isn't Unicron blown up at the end of Armada?
@@PerspectiveEnd IDK.
I just think of it as similar to the aligned continuity where they stop caring about continuity every series.
The real question you need to ask yourself is “are you really going to deny yourself the majesty that is Cybertron Thunderblast over one of the worst series of the franchise?”
@@PerspectiveEnd yes. but that didn't stick, it only dislodged the alpha-quintensson and scorponok from his bowels (that's facetious, energon-scorponok is actually a pretty good figure).
the bulletpoint of the serie beaks down into:- it's season 3 of g1 but armada
the minicon, ALL MINICON except perceptor are gone, now the're the omnicon which are just cybertonian dwarves
unicron is alive, and scorponok is using megatron own and very well known sword to call back the decepticons to collect energon for the big guy
autobots can play leapfrog-combiner, optimus is his own powercorecombiner
megatron is alive and take controll of uncron decapitated comatose body, starscream isn't a character, just an amnesiac with no personality
tidal wave gets an in-lore explanation for the fractal thunder deco on his toy
cyclonus get almost killed and reverse-86-movie'ed into -thunderwarp- snowcat, the earliest transformers gijoe crossover, and later demolishor get rebuilt into demolisher (or viceversa, all dubs disagree on this), making them more unhinged
the battle move to cybetron proper. the generic wind dagger is rebuilt into optimus powerup wind saber
not-shockwave is a betrayer. he get squashed. omega supreme is the weird powerfull guy, he becomes the other powerup for optimus.
tidal wave is destroyed, he's rebuilt into mirage, the most gay transformers of the franchise (intended as literally a stereotypical homosexual, not as an insult)
the combiners are here. it's 3 team formed by a chest, 2 molds and 2 recolors. they do not separate or transform.
galvatron get pissed off, eats unicron becoming himself the giant, loses his mind, optimus combines with omega supreme, grows to haslab size and insult galvatron into committing sudoku as he wasn't the megatron of armada final episode no more
everything else is pointless, and really NONE of this matter once you reach episode 3 of cybertron
10:14 I'm so over about being bothered by Blitzwing's alternate modes. Truth be told, I prefer Astrotrain over Blitzwing, since a train and a space shuttle is more compatible shape-wise in comparison to the tank and fighter jet that Blitzwing has. Legacy Blitzwing is just alright, and I can accept that his two alternate modes are just incompatible without kibble from one mode appearing in the other, I think it has a charm, and I'm no stickler for accuracy. The fact that the Legacy jet has more underkibble than his G1 counterpart is questionable though. Overall, I think it's a fun toy and the triple-changer kibble doesn't ruin it for me personally.
I do feel you on that, and at least we did get a really solid Astrotrain in Siege/ER.
Unfortunately I just think we got a Way Better Blitzwing in TR, so this isn't an upgrade to me.
I think I am the only one who liked bomb burst, It allows you to make what you can out of it. When I am bored the first thing I start doing is creating my own silly fanmodes. I love the alt mode. Yeah hes a shellformer but I have gotten around that and warmed up to the figure
I think the problem with Bombburst is that even the official altmode feels like a fan mode.
See I think the problem with Bombburst is that even the Official Altmode feels like a Fanmode.
@@PerspectiveEnd yeah
With united just starting when can we expect to see the evolution retrospective? I really enjoy these as someone who can't always get all the figures I'd like to. It's just nice to look back on the line as a whole and appreciate what i did get.
I plan to do it sooner rather than later yes. And I'm glad to hear that these videos have that effect on you.
Also are you Alicia Kobayashi, or am I mistaken?
@PerspectiveEnd Awesome! yeah that's me, RUclips's change from usernames to email name or whatever is weird
Thankfully you didn't do that, and the Icon at the same time, because then I would have lost track of you. Too many people change both at once, and then I start to worry cause I haven't heard from them in a while (Or so I think) or they just launch into a conversation with me like I'm supposed to remember one we already had, when I don't know who I'm talking to.
@@PerspectiveEnd luckily I very rarely change my icon, the name however on here at least is all youtubes fault as part of an update, also I do apologise if you haven't heard from me in a while, since late November I had major burnout with transformers and stopped buying them and watching content based on them but now I'm back on board and I'm enjoying them again, so I'm slowly catching up on your videos that I missed 💜
I got Legacy Knockout recently because it was cheap, and I have just discovered how I never liked the Jazz mold and its pathetic knees. Its basically just a model car based on his alt mode on my shelf now.
Sorry to hear that, but at least you can still make sweet sweet love to that car mode.
You make some solid points, especially for Blitzwing and the Pretenders. I hard disagree with you about the Stunticons. I love the set sans Breakdown. Maybe a little on Dead End's QC issue in car mode. Bulkhead is straight awesome. I just wish he had a better reach with his arms. I don't care for the Prime Arcee mold even though I own 3 of it (PArcee, Road Rocket, Ariel). Knock Out really did get a meh robot with a fantastic car mode. All the Beast Wars stuff RULES. Pointblank NEED the upgrade kits and Toyhax labels to raise him from terrible to okay. The only Insecticon I thought they missed the mark on was Bombshell, and I don't get the hate for Skids or his mold mates other than color. All in all, Legacy Year 1 was hit and miss but it does get a bit better.
My problem with the Wildrider and Breakdown, is just that they feel like a Downgrade on the CW versions. When most of the engineering is the same, where did our money go. It's smaller, it's tolerances are worse, it's clearances are worse, the elbows bend less. Like I'd have been pretty ok with it if it was the same thing as the CW, but had a serious posing upgrade. And outside of feet, it really didn't.
I only have 2 of the Arcee, and I wish the only one I had was Flamewar, which is one of the ones I didn't pick up.
And the thing about Pointblank, is it's my personal Philosophy to only REWARD good figures with Upgrade kits. If you are trying to make a bad figure tollerable, then you are just throwing good money after bad.
I don't hate the Skids my self. I think the toy is a little dull, but it's perfectly fine. I personally actually really enjoy the burnout version.
@@PerspectiveEnd I too wish I had picked up Flame War, which again is weird to me considering that it isn't a mold I am fond of. I do think the upgrade kit is warranted in Pointblank's case BUT if a 3rd party made a better figure of him in WFC/Legacy scale I would rather have that. Still, I had a lot of fun messing around with the Stunticons before I finally got Motormaster, but I wish Breakdown had a proper vehicle mode.
5:54 that will do, I still think it’s the best chug combiner by far or at least better than the combiner wars menasor, although I’m only gonna get motormaster anyways
Motormaster is really fun on his own.
As for other Combiners, I REALLY like the PotP Abominus set. He's cohesive, and he feels really fun.
6:12 they do that because they did it in G1
Indeed, and it is one of those Cancerous instances that needs to go away.
I love Transformers so much, it’s such a shame I *STILL* can’t find anything past Legacy wave 1.