Patty vs No Patty, Early Spring Feeding,
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I am a big believer in feeding supplements to my hives to ensure the hives have the proper diet required to develop their nest. I also believe we as beekeepers need to completely understand what is actually benefiting the colonies and what is just beekeeper feel good exercises.
You will see my observations in this video between a hive fed supplement and a hive not. Both yards are on open feed. Time, money and piece of mind are all considerations to the efforts we put into these honey bee nests. What we do now needs to have a purpose, I'm trying to define that purpose. I am also trying to manage the risks associated with spring time colony development.
After reading all the comments, I want to thank you for your time and the information you freely give. Your boxes of bees look amazing!
Hi Ian .i just recently read an article on a study that Randy Oliver did with his sons.they used different formulated patties and open fed also.he used a form of a glow in the dark substance. Dry form and liquid .he mixed it in the patties and at dark used a black lite he looked in the brood nest for stores only to find none.He even looked out side of the hives .when he mixed it with dry form sub he again
at night and repeated the same to find they stored it in the cells .his conclusion was as a pattie they would only consume it but open feeding and bring into the hive they would store it.I thought that was quite interesting.
Konrad
🙏🙏🙏🐝
That makes sense, A patty is considered bee bread already able to be eaten directly by the nurses, where as pollen substitute is considered pollen yet to me mixed with nectar and made into bee bread for the nurse bees to consume.
I love seeing the open feeders. I think it's be great to see a timelapse of a full bag being put out and opened in the morning and watching it all day.
This is a very interesting field study. Very informative. I look forward to seeing the results of your studies in the future.
Hey... ALL Plants, animals, and humans do MUCH better with the right nutrition... They express all the good genetics they have to the fullest. It's hard to mimic the natural environment in a positive way sometimes. That balance can be tricky. Thanks for doing this video! Really appreciate your honesty and transparency!
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My only thought on open feeding, is when I think of the deer herd here in Wisconsin...Chronic Wasting Disease or CWD. Caused by feeding open piles of corn and shared by many mouths. Spreads disease. If only a small % of bee colonies would have a disease, so now does your yard. Like you said a few weeks back about the bee poo on top of the buckets, then rain, then into the nests because they used the buckets as a water source. ... Might be more work feeding patties, but another reason to feed that way... Besides what you said about maybe a rainy period where they can't get at the open feed.
Yea open feeding frowned upon in the UK.... Looks good though
As others have said Randy showed dry sub is stored the same as natural pollen and patties are not. So by open feeding dry sub the hives should still have stores during the non flying weather situations. My own observations and research seems to support patties are overrated and open feeding dry sub is underrated. Its good to have more evidence provided by a more experienced beekeeper. Thanks again Ian for your observations.
I am a bee hobbyist with 10 hives. It is easy for us to use patties. The weather in Southern Ontario has be lousy so patties give me peace of mind, the bees have access to protein. I completely understand open feeding for commercial guys with dozens or 100s of hives
but you can't go by a single hive sample. it may be that you happened on a strong hive with an exceptional queen. marking the 'light' hives as you set them out from over wintering, they may benefit from the additional protein at the start of the season to help them catch up and you may have less work 'leveling' out the hives later and most of the extra brood you skim to prevent swarming at that time can go into nucs for new hives. I live in Ontario, my father came from Winkler and I am thinking of trying hobby bee keeping. It is the cold that I worry about - how to get them through the winter - and I'm not keeping them in the garage or basement! It's great to see how different people manage their bees in the Great White North - we all don't live on the Gulf Coast where there is no snow!
I found an interesting study regarding supplemental feeding of a pollen substitute. The worker bees eat the substitute, and little, if any, is stored. The big benefit was the volume of royal jelly being fed to larvae; it increased dramatically compared to hives not receiving the supplement. And, undoubtedly, the queen benefits from the improved quality of the nutrition she receives; hence, brood production increases earlier than if the colony was dependent solely on the arrival of spring pollen. On a side note: once natural pollen is available the bees typically ignore substitutes.
My I suggest that everyone look up Ian's video "A NO Summer Flow Feeding Decission" this is why the bees today look the way they do.
Wendy Jarrett
Yes
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Answer to my questions:
Yes you dumb fuck, feed them more patties !
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Thank you 🙏🏼! Now I have an understanding of what you have been saying about “feed” for the bees 🐝 🐝 I appreciate the video & explanation of how much it takes to be a beekeeper
Really interesting work . I am of the opinion that open dry feed n syrup is a better spring brood stimulant as compared to pail feeding with patties. Reasons for which include the waggle and tremble dances, which trigger the various impulses within the hive which mimic a summer flow to an extent. We can't bluff the bees lol we can only simulate to stimulate. Fall feeding is different. Just my opinion☺
Thanks for the info. Your hives look amazing. I am downsizing to single brood boxes also. I have added sugar, then patties and medicated syrup. They are taking it all very quickly and need more syrup and patties. I'm in NS and it's still cool here, waking up to snow some days. Thank you for your videos and teaching me how to care for my bees.
You just got an instant sub! keep up the solid content! Having those internal/external dialogues are very helpful to understanding your line of reasoning. Im planning on doing around 50-75 hives next year, so I will be spending some serious time on your channel if every video is this good, all your little tips and tricks are gold, also equipment decisions, and where to find things/tool choices would be awesome! like your helmets, to extractors, and why you choose which.
You are only a short distance from where I am in Minnesota (Fertile). I do no spring supplement with my bees because they come from the southern US and are getting all the essential amino acids they need with the pollen coming in. I enjoy watching your videos. You do your hive management differently than I do but there are many ways to get the same end result.
Bees are amazing creatures
Im In love withe them already
I would love to have an apiary like yours one day, thanks bro amazing infos , we learn fro the professional. Cheers.
I put a third patty on most of mine today. They're looking fantastic!
That Bee Man at Faith Apiaries
Nice!
My friend, I'm very satisfied that you found yourself that is not so many benefits from feeding bees with pollen supplements patty. A bit better than nothing.
Many years ago I participated in trials and a lab study for using pollen supplements and its effect on bees. The trials were carried out in the desert Negev, where there are no flavours around 200 km, 9 months in the year, but many farmers growing vegetables in greenhouses and the bees are required for pollination. Thousands of beehives needed every year and most of them are just dying without pollen. We fed them all kind of mixture products. as a result, if the mixture does not include the fresh frozen or a little dry natural pollen at least 15%
from volume mixture, we saw very small changes in our hives. With adding natural pollen to the mixture result was very good. The bees are able to survive and made a brood.
Other trials for the efficiency of using artificial pollen for feeding bees outside of the colony shows that for bees very important activity or simulation collecting pollen or nectar.
It gives visibility of Honey flow or pollen collection and stimulates the queen to lay eggs. Furthermore that bees are eating most of the different mixtures the field and lab tests showed that digestibility of artificial pollen by bees very low. Unfortunately, the bee only insects and not like cows or pigs.
One more fact which everyone can watch that the honey/pollen storage in hives do not stimulate the queen to lay more eggs, but if you are feeding them every day 500 gr or bees flying to open feeder to collect syrup or pollen then the colony will grow very fast.
Please remember that bees usually collect and consume 1 kg of natural pollen per day, then we can see a good growing colony as a result and for comparison, pollen patty bees can consume only 500 gr per 2 or 3 weeks, what effect it can give for bees? Good luck.
Boris Fridlender
Yes I agree
But I’m not trying to substitute here, I’m trying to supplement
@@aCanadianBeekeepersBlog We have tested both supplements and substitutes with different proportions and applications. If bees are consuming less then 150-200 gr per day no difference was noticed between control groups of bees. Also, a lot of researches has been done on this theme in every county since 1938 and still not found a silver bullet yet.
I like how he talks about it my goal is too feed when needed what is needed cheers
In my opinion factors that influence size of early brood nest most are simply amount of bees and queen genetics, any kind of protein feeding is necessary (paties or dry suplement), if there is sufficient source of natural pollen.
About those bees all over that open bag...Wow....WOW!!! That looked cool!
Very interesting. I was not expecting that at all. It's kind of hard to say for certain though. The non patty hive was on the dry supplement. And we don't know how soon the queens kicked into overdrive. My hives had pollen stores still coming out of winter. And they all had some brood already when I put patties on. They didn't increase the brood till I had patties on, but they would have then regardless with warmer temps.
More notes to file and refer back to with future spring data to compare it to. Might eventually be able to see a definitive pattern in a few years.
Good job sir 🙏🤩🐝🐝🐝
You're wanting to raise Olympic quality endurance in your field bees. To get there requires well-fed queens that lay quality eggs that get well-fed as larva and baby bees up until they're field bees.
To get a population large enough to super up by dandelion time requires stimulating early brood production. Keep in mind that colony growth is a natural logarithmic curve up until peak population and it becomes apparent immediately that a well-fed colony has an advantage during the honey flow.
If you're making comb honey...feed your bees in the spring to get strong colonies that pull comb and fill it.
As a Canadian in Alberta I'm trying to copy your methods. Guys in Texas or Florida are interesting to watch, but they just don't have the same relevancy as a Guy from Manitoba for me. Following you has payed off. I too have boxes of bees for the first time! So thank you. Problem is I'm a week or two ahead of Manitoba in weather so its hard to mimic what you're doing when I should have done what you did weeks ago.
My question is, when will you be adding a second brood box to your strong hives? If it's soon then I best be adding now.
When will you be medicating?
It's not a control though, as you said yourself both hives you checked have been given syrup and Pollen sub, therefore I'd expect to see little difference, perhaps the one with the Pattie has a benefit over the other in times of poorer weather when the bees collecting pollen sub can't fly.
The only way to tell whether there's a difference would be an Apiary with no pollen sub of any form compared to one with pollen sub and equal colonies in terms of strength at the start.
even then it would need a number of hives to take into account other variables such as Queen prolificacy, some are just more prolific than others.
I'm liking that you are trying out these things though and hope that should you manage a real control Apiary scenario it does show the benefit of supplementary feeding.
As per my previous comment. I got through 3 of the 4 hives late this afternoon. The patties were all gone. They even licked it off the top of the frames. All the Ultra bee they took maybe added up to 1/3 frame one side in each hive. They are brooding like crazy. They are using more sub then I figured at the high end by double. I bought a 50lb bag of ultra bee this winter as soon as bee maid got it in. I didn't think 2 hives and 2 nucs would even put a dent in it. Lol... I am here to say I was entirely incorrect. I can't even guess how many bags you are going through altogether. Come on pollen!!!!
You might b e feeding some other hive,s
@@bradkkimberlin2000 The neighbor has 34 hives. they did find my supplement the day before yesterday. when that happens the difference is very noticeable. The feed I give my bees that should last 3 days + is poof gone. Actually I think bees don't just communicate in the hive with waggle dances. I think they either communicate in the air or they are smart enough to follow traffic from a fellow hive to a food source. There isn't a slow ramp up. Once one of his hives find my open feed I have a major swarm on it by the end of the day. When his bees find my open syrup or pollen sub feed I have to stop feeding that method immediately because I can't afford it.
I don't know who that other beekeeper is but I don't think they are very generous with offering feed. His entire yard was here. in fall on my syrup and now on my supplement. I'm gonna build some swarm traps in the hopes that their swarm management is as good as their feeding management. Maybe I'll get a new hive or two out of it. lol....
I made another observation yesterday. the month since I took them out of the shed there has been a ton of traffic in and out of the hives but no guards at the entrance. Even when the neighbors bees showed up in mass to take the pollen sub my hives still had no guards at the entrance. Yesterday I saw natural pollen coming into the hives and by days end all four hives had guards at the door checking all traffic in and out. WHY did this only start yesterday?
I think pollen is far more important to bees then people think. Folks collecting pollen collect a very significant amount per hive daily. It's easily enough to fill frames and frames of pollen yet we don't put up supers for pollen. If you have a full single frame of pollen in your hive with some rimming you are happy. They have stores but for the most part all the pollen is used as it comes in. That my friend is one hell of a lot of pollen.
One thing I learned the hard way is that boxes of bees like you have isn't a 1 year accomplishment. It's 2 years minimum. Even then It can take robbing resources from other hives. This spring It's been cool but the bees have been able to fly for dry supplement almost every day. Even in the yard where you are using patties they are flying and devouring the patties. Same with mine. They aren't throwing it out the door so the way I see it they are using it. It may not translate to brood but it might translate to the health of the bees. I don't know. What I do know is the box of bees you are showing is due to last year's management and I'm damn near drooling looking at it.
Not unheard of to get a week or more of no flight. My biggest concern is with brooding ramping up what happens if pollen isn't on the hive and long term no flight conditions happen? Everyone seems to know what their bees require honey wise? I have yet to see a single comment even from science as to the minimum required pollen quantity requirement. All I can go by is folks that collect pollen and show how much they get in a day per hive . It's a lot yet you don't find frames and frames of pollen in the hive so they have to be requiring a whack of it to maintain themselves and the brood. Even with patties on my hives and dry pollen feeder right by them. I accidentally left my container I use to refill the supplement feeder on my front step. They found that container in moments. I put some supplement in an ice cream pail lid on my deck 200 yards from the hives and 20 minutes later it was a swarm. they took it all. If weather permits I'm gonna go into the hives today. I want to see how they are brooding but I also want to see pollen stores. The 2 hives and 2 nucs have taken 3 gallon pails of supplement into the hives besides devouring the patties. I expect to see frames of supplement in the hives or they are using far more then I even I expected.
Folks say to stay out this time of year but it's my first spring with bees and I can't learn without going in myself to see and learn.
I am in the same situation. How am I going to learn what is happening in the nest without pulling frames. This is my first year with spring bees. Last winter all my bees died. I have two hives just for the fun of having bees. It is a very interesting hobby.
Rough, Could you please advise me on straight pollen feeding? How much per hive in the northern US and is it placed inside and or out side the hive? My bees have little interest in the pollen but they will spend time on cracked corn put out for birds and other wildlife.
@@Vbluevital I don't feed my bees straight pollen. A bunch of research into that area has taught me that all pollen is not equal. Unless you collect a years worth of pollen mix it then process it into your preferred feeding method there is no way to guarantee the bees are getting what they need. pure natural pollen is a tad expensive and more so when you have no clue if it's even fulfilling the hives requirements. I feed pollen substitutes. My patties were bought from a commercial source and do contain 4% pollen but my dry sub is Ultra bee which contains no pollen. As for quantity I just make sure they have patties until the honey supers go on. I'd love to use the dry open feed more but my neighbors bee yard eats me out of house and home.
As for method of feeding the question is do you have hive beetles? If you do then it's not recommended to put patties in the hive. The hive beetles love the stuff so they get out of control quick. All the folks I've talked to or videos I've watched where there are hive beetles they open feed dry sub exclusively. For instance Barnyard bees is a breeder and feeds his colonies year round with ultra bee. He has basically the same philosophy I do. He has to open feed due to hive beetles and I have to use patties due to my neighbors bees but the idea is the same. If it's available and they need it? They have it. As for brands. I use Ultra bee because the bees like it. The patties were locally available through a commercial store. It sells in 10 lb boxes. I don't know the brand. All I know is i've never seen the bees throw it out the front door and even when natural pollen is abundant they are still on that patty to some extent.
@@RoughAndWretchedRAW
I appreciate your responce Rough. Thank You
The more bees there are in a colony the better Winter bees stock a lot of body fat from which they will feed the first generation of brood That's why you better fatten your bees in the late autumn and maintain a strong and healthy collony You don't need to worry if you have or not polen stored in the collony All you have is to provide that protein patty early in the spring before the bees can collect polen from outside
I have Bees in Alaska that I winner every year and I found that patties do not really help me at all. With amount of willows that I have they get out early and bring back pollen
Interesting comparison.
Hey Ian, I was hoping that when you get a chance to you can come back and give us a followup on this video after the manic/depressive spring that you have had and if those pollen patties kept the nutritional protein feed to the hives on the track to a good spring build or did you see any widespread setbacks that you would attribute more to nutrition than weather?
A few cautions (from an analytical chemist/hobby beekeeper for what it's worth). A study of one data point is almost always useless. Go through at least 6 more hives, the more the better and see if the trend continues. Compare only similar hives, an extra frame of bees is a big difference. Follow the study through for a significant amount of time; the bees you looked at have been exposed to as near identical circumstances as you can provide as long as you've been working them (supplement, housing, natural nutrition, production, size). You may not see the results of patty feeding this spring until next spring. Of course it may be that patty feeding is actually useless or of minor import compared to open dry feed but with as tiny a data set as you have I wouldn't begin to form any definite theories, let alone draw any conclusions.
therealbacalao
Just observations
again love your operation and thanks for all your information. Do your pails of feed freeze when it gets down in the twenty's and colder ?????
Ya never know, that 1 box of bees 🐝 that didn’t get the white patty that everyone else had doesn’t prove anything just yet. It may have been a well established nest before, or something. But to make a conclusion based on 1 box this 1 year isn’t exactly irrefutable proof 1 way or the other, is it? Just curious.
Total Respect for all your hard work to give Mother Natural a big hand. Bless you
What if you get a week of bad weather and the bees can't get to the supplement? A combination I think is good. The in and out of the hive getting the pollen is also stimulating the queen to lay hard.
Now you got me thinking when you got wet brood in both hives. But if it rains for a week thats when the paddys will.kick in. Whan they can't get out of the hive.
Gary Shaffer
Exactly
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Probrably the only advantage a patty would have over open feeding is if the weather lets the bees fly. Good flying weather makes the patties a waste of time
Hey Ian this might not make a difference to you at all but for your channel when I like your video and my screen is not maximized the like gets recorded, when I go to maximize my screen the like goes away. I tested this on a couple of other channels that I view on a regular basis and it's not happening to their channel but it is happening to yours. Very interesting about the protein patties, thanks for sharing.
Kate Cortez
Hmmm, not sure what that is all about ,
you only have brood boxs. where are the supers you add them later?
Ian - I am a student of beekeeping - but not yet a beekeeper. I do have a question on today's video - do you think that had you been looking in both yards at some of your weaker hives - would you have expected the same results as you saw today? I guess I am asking if the number of field bees out gathering pollen when none is in the nest would make a significant difference. If so, would two otherwise equal colonies - one with pollen patties, one without - but both weak in field bees - be producing equal amounts of well nourished brood?
What do you have in the open supplemental feeder? I bought a large tube of pollen for my hives. They don't care for it. Great video, Thank You for sharing your abundant knowledge.
So nice to find a channel based in Manitoba. I'm getting bees this spring, and so often I find it hard to find resources for different projects with climate concerns about how to do things specifically for the area. Thanks for the channel- lots of useful info!
Curious about your bag of feed there- so far I've largely seen that people in MB and other cold, long winter areas feed sugar syrup, especially since a lot of us get primarily canola honey, as will be my case as well. Do you find it's good to use the bagged feed instead in spring? It may be that it wouldn't be worth it for my one colony, but I'm curious, and determined to look at as many options as possible.
Hi Ian, I am curious, how are the bees bringing the dry substitute back to the nest. Are they eating it or carrying it in their leg baskets? Here in NB we have pollen coming in now but my two hives are very small compared to what you have there. 4 and a half frames of bees. I think they are bringing in speckled alder pollen. Good to see something coming in.
Green- Zone
Legs and body
Ian, great video!
What happens if you have very cold days for days or days but nothing but rain and they cannot get to the dry pollen. The patty is possible an insurance policy in case that happens?
Jerry deGroot
Exactly
How's your pollen sources right now Ian ??
Do you ever consider predation from wasps or furry critters? What impact does predation have?
Great info. What kind of bees do you have?
Two questions: do you leave good capped honey Supplies in nest going into winter. And how many days or weeks do you start this supplement feeding before an expected flow.
Debbie Rodda
Out of the wintershed, before the pollen flow
Nice
I'm new to this. What is that open feeder and what are you feeding them?
it says Ultra Bee on the sack
I agree about feeding animals well, yet bees know how to take care of themselves, with the exception of some help with they need it. I only feed my bees bananas, mineral salts, and their own honey. I did not for 11 years any only can 5% losses. I believe in natural beekeeping. Yet not trying to argue on other methods. I feel that if we leave the bees all the honey they need year round, you wind we don't need to feed them. Can't speak for commercial beekeepers. Yet in my personal belief, I feel we are way too involved with bee management, rather than letter the bees bee.
is there any harm from using newspapers contain PB with feeding?
Hi Ian,
What is the white powder above the nest? Was that some form of probiotics?
veery good imformation brother or sir. I want to come to canada you
Is it possible that the hive(s) with the pollen supplements were weaker initially? When conducting any study, one must very carefully control for all other factors. There may be other externalities that you haven't considered. I am not saying that this is at play here but it is worth mentioning. Great video!
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Now I'm curious. I don't open feed with only a few hives so I wonder if I would see a bigger differance. Might need to try leaving 1 or two without next sping and see if I notice anything.
exactly, I bet those colonies are brooding like mine, just protein from the internal source rather than external.
I checked my hives today and the larva looked underfed. All hives have patties and are eating them. I gave them syrup earlier but they finished the pails before I got them refilled. Makes me wonder if the dry pollen sub is more effective?
Did you have a field with no supplements as a control group to compare open feeding to patty feeding?
dstick1
Nope, open feeding vs patty wasn’t a trial I was running. I was just making an assumption based on the amount of protein consumption seen,
But it didn’t translate as I thought
Cheers Ian, the scientist in me was trying to understand what the question was you were asking of your apiary. I get you were feeding open and had patties on others, but if the bees are able to fly for the 14-21 days, in theory, both sets of hives are being feed supplements so what is the base line you are using to compare these fed hives to no feeding? I guess what I am curious about is, does feeding supplements make a difference is the question I thought you were asking of the Bees? Usually you need 10 samples to answer 1 question, and a good control base line to compare "what too" helps also. I totally get what you are doing BTW, no offence / disrespect intended here. More just trying to add so ideas to your experiment and observations. Hope that makes sense, love your work BTW and the thought you put in to understanding what is going on. Nature is a cunning beast at the best of times, please keep on exploring :) Hope you had a great Easter break and lots of Choc as well :)
Basically I was surprised how well the hives were brooding with the little bit of supplement they were foraging on. Whereas I assumed by the mass of patty consumed, that the hives fed patties would show more stimulation,
But you are absolutely right. With a non fed control, I’d be able to tell if that supplement feeding stimulated the queens brooding. My assumption is yes, based on a study Randy Oliver had done comparing different supplements. His control grew substantially less.
Next year, I might keep some without feed to see what is up. Of course, pollen stored from last year also plays an important role , so a lot of this is all “hmmm, what’s going on here..”
I was as surprised as you FWIW, you are right about what stores did they start with before being fed, great point. for giggles, is it possible to food dye your patty and open pollen different colours and seen if you can visually see where the bees are getting their protein? I often food dye my syrup to see what is being stored on frames vs what is being consumed. Thanks for the videos and help BTW, I am on a steep learning curve myself.
this well gat to bees rob ?
I guess you’d have to alternate supplement between hives in the same yard and see if there’s a difference in aggregate.
do you have any hives in an area that do not have access to the ultra bee?
Jim Reichert
No I do not
ALL hives in that yard received supplemental feeding of a pollen substitute due to the open feeder... so comparisons of hives were futile.
What kind of bees do you use
I am Yelim and where is Lea
Did you seriously put the frame with the queen on it on the ground?
see bees after what happen
You are gonna have to roll that hood around in the dirt and stick some duct tape on it already. It looks way too clean and new on that jacket.
ha ha ha ah
I would proudly buy this dirty hood from Lan and wear it or hang it on my wall , its gonna be a pleasure to have it , its all experience
For your infos Its not dirt its bee wax or propolis .
@@electricengineer624 Lol.. you could just take some window screen crumple it up with some white rags and duct tape hang it and claim it was his. Did you see what was left of the hood he replaced? Ha ha ha. It was totaled. Much more tape and he would have had to put some round pail screens on it for peep holes. The replacement was much needed and well deserved. Ask him! He might sell the old one to you. You know your hood is done when it presents less challenge to get through than a bee escape. Ha ha ha.
😂😂😂😂😂😂🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙 cool man
Why throw the wax from your hives on the ground around your hives?
That's like ringing the dinner bell for every hive raiding pest!
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Who is Kerry...does your wife know about her. 🤣
As Carrie's mom - yes, Sandy knows her...lol. Since she was about 4. 😉
@@jodilee8709 Carrie's got mad beekeeping skills. You should be proud!
@@showmebees9431 Oh I definitely am! She's always had an affinity for them. I'm very thankful that Ian's mom suggested her for the job. 😀
How much old larva do you see in the open feeding ? A week of feeding is NOT long enough. Go to a Nutra BEE patty. :)
Wendy Jarrett
All stages
LOTS of eggs,
They are just getting ramped up. The demand for resources is just about to hit DEMAND. Let’s see what happens, but I’m sure the trees are about to sort that out right away
And yes, what I see there now is the nutrabee patty set onto them last August
Ian…You make me so mad. Here’s me having to squint with bifocals to see eggs/larvae at 72 and here’s you with 😎 on and “no problem”. Where’s the justice?😂😂😂😂
I am Yelim and where is Lea