Great test. You’ll certainly gonna start a big discussion. I don’t snare rabbit enough to have an opinion on that. But your test give a good idea. Thanks for sharing that buddy. Pat
@@patandandrea thanks pat ! The discussion and controversy has already started … this test was just to give people a general idea and the big difference between the two alternatives to stainless wire, and to help them decide which one is the better alternative.
Try the test with a kink in the wire, that’s where it’s going to break. Couple of things I have observed over the years with snareing of Rabbits. I have seen snares set large enough to catch a fox. If the snare has a large loop it gives the snared rabbit more length and room to jump around more. I personally don’t use a big loop or a long tailing from the loop to the stick I use to tie the snare to. My loops are 3.5 to 4 inch in diameter and same height from ground. I use a small 3/8 to 1/2 stick with a notch/slit to secure the snare to hold it in place. Then I use a piece of nylon line tied to end of snare and other end is tied to a more secure limb or a little larger stick driven into the ground. The line is the key it won’t twist off. It may take a little more time to set but one well set snare is worth 6 set in hast and improper. I use BRASS legal wire. I have snared Rabbits for 50 plus years. I snared 20 Rabbits this year with 30 slips, lost one Rabbits.
After testing it , I’m convinced it’s about how you set your snares … and some people are reluctant to do it a different way then they’ve been doing all their life. I personally find bendy sticks ( green ) or fresh sticks with a bit of give help a lot to spread out the force that’s out on the snares
Great video my buddy. You must have strong finger pull hard like that ha,ha. You where putting a lot of force outward on the stainless. You done a excellent job on showing the 3 different wire types. Nobody ever showed this before so hates off to you for putting out this great content. Take care and Merry Christmas to you and your woman and rest of your family.
Yeah Braden this is Andy I love your show. This is my first time commenting I'm a bit shy. Lol. But I've been snaring for along time now my taught is that steel is stronger. But if you get the rabbit around the neck. Very unlikely he is going to brack any of the three keep up the good work and by the way I love your hats. Lol
Interesting results, your test methods are not exactly scientific but they do provide some insight on how the wires work. Here in NB we’re allowed to use stainless wire as long as it’s not over .075 inches in diameter. My experiences catching the Varying Hare with all three of the wires you tested in the same size, and I can definitely tell you the stainless wire is the best, it rarely breaks, I’ve had rabbits drag some tie off sticks 1” by 4-5ft long and not break. The one thing that most trappers do wrong is tying off to a live tree, it has no give when the wire comes up tight. Happy rabbit trapping 👍🏻
I have used stainless when it was still legal to use with great success. This year i used both brass and picture cord lots 9 with the brass and 0 with the picture cord.
The pitchercord seems to be terrible. Not sure why more people aren’t talking about it. All you hear is “ brass is garbage “ lol. Nobody ever talks about pitchercord
Trapping and snaring for over 40 years used it all! Since the banning of the stainless I use brass with piece of fishing twine to tie it on very thin crossbar that can move very easily! That's what works for me! Even tie it off in a bow so you can take them up much faster when you get bun bun!
Sounds awesome ! I’m heavily convinced it all comes down to how you set your snares at the end of the day. Now don’t get me wrong, nothing will be stainless steel in terms of durability
Great video Brayden . My experience shows if the wire kinks it breaks much easier. I enjoyed the video. It would be interesting to see what the difference would be between the 20 gauge brass vs the 22 gauge brass.
I use to tie the snares with sud line to the stick and a brass snare . I’ve even heard old timers boiling the brass wires and picture wire to dull them so rabbits were less likely to see it .
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I can appreciate the tests buddy but the proof is in the experiences that I have had with them. I have used stainless in past years when it was legal and had much more success. Last year with the brass was awful. Only started with the picture cord this year. See how she goes. Kinks is also a factor.
Great test , definitely some merit in your test for sure. But like you eluded the test is not scientific test with all variables equal. Ada guessed 10 lb before you did the brass pull test she was close. Here's one thing I'd like to see and Here's why. You remember how the brass broke much faster on the twist test than the picture cord....so I'd like to see three or four twist then then a break test , I'm curious but I think a couple of twist and the brass will break much easier just a theory lol. I've used brass for the past few years and this year I had a 50% fail rate , I can't compare to picture cord because I didn't use it. My grandfather who I snared with for years would only ever use picture cord but Here's the difference it was probably 10 strand maybe even 12 , I think the 6 is garbage to be honest. I had a long break away from snaring but years ago I used all picture cord .... again the heavier stuff....and it was rare to lose a rabbit maybe couple a year. But great test and it's hard to argue with your results lol Darrell will be our infield tester and I'm curious to see how he does because there were times last year he lost two and three a haul. The main thing is we don't get a pine marten lol Hope you have a great week and a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you and Danika from Tucker and I and family.
You might lose a rabbit on stainless wire but your percentage will be way lower than brass. I have used stainless wire for 35 years and not once have a caught a pine marten. Just a bunch of bs I say someone without a clue came up with this law. Labrador is aloud with stainless so should Newfoundland. And with the gas prices today I don’t feel like losing rabbits by having to use brass wire.
Your stainless slipped, you don’t have enough strength in you to break it. Brass is not even close to stainless in strength. I’m in Labrador and use all stainless and ive never see a broken snare like you do in nfld with brass.
@@Trent_Collins can’t deny the test results lol. Even if the stainless slipped, that’s the point at which the snare would fail at. That’s a lost bunny either way !!! Stainless is stronger long term 109% the better snare. But you can’t deny the results
I personally prefer the brassard wire beacose its more easy to make your scare whit brassard and i dont lost that much rabit at all im from Québec and stanless is alowed but i stay whit brass
Great test. You’ll certainly gonna start a big discussion.
I don’t snare rabbit enough to have an opinion on that. But your test give a good idea.
Thanks for sharing that buddy.
Pat
@@patandandrea thanks pat !
The discussion and controversy has already started … this test was just to give people a general idea and the big difference between the two alternatives to stainless wire, and to help them decide which one is the better alternative.
Try the test with a kink in the wire, that’s where it’s going to break.
Couple of things I have observed over the years with snareing of Rabbits. I have seen snares set large enough to catch a fox. If the snare has a large loop it gives the snared rabbit more length and room to jump around more. I personally don’t use a big loop or a long tailing from the loop to the stick I use to tie the snare to. My loops are 3.5 to 4 inch in diameter and same height from ground. I use a small 3/8 to 1/2 stick with a notch/slit to secure the snare to hold it in place. Then I use a piece of nylon line tied to end of snare and other end is tied to a more secure limb or a little larger stick driven into the ground. The line is the key it won’t twist off. It may take a little more time to set but one well set snare is worth 6 set in hast and improper. I use BRASS legal wire. I have snared Rabbits for 50 plus years. I snared 20 Rabbits this year with 30 slips, lost one Rabbits.
After testing it , I’m convinced it’s about how you set your snares … and some people are reluctant to do it a different way then they’ve been doing all their life.
I personally find bendy sticks ( green ) or fresh sticks with a bit of give help a lot to spread out the force that’s out on the snares
Great video my buddy. You must have strong finger pull hard like that ha,ha. You where putting a lot of force outward on the stainless. You done a excellent job on showing the 3 different wire types. Nobody ever showed this before so hates off to you for putting out this great content. Take care and Merry Christmas to you and your woman and rest of your family.
Thank you sir !
At least somebody enjoyed the educational aspect.
Facebook is loving the controversy HAHA !
@@Braydencoish lol. The way it is tied on a stick is a factor. Kink point.
@ yes 100%
Yeah Braden this is Andy I love your show. This is my first time commenting I'm a bit shy. Lol. But I've been snaring for along time now my taught is that steel is stronger. But if you get the rabbit around the neck. Very unlikely he is going to brack any of the three keep up the good work and by the way I love your hats. Lol
@@Andy-c5e1z thanks Andy ! Don’t feel shy hahaha.
Glad you enjoyed & thanks for watching !
Interesting results, your test methods are not exactly scientific but they do provide some insight on how the wires work. Here in NB we’re allowed to use stainless wire as long as it’s not over .075 inches in diameter. My experiences catching the Varying Hare with all three of the wires you tested in the same size, and I can definitely tell you the stainless wire is the best, it rarely breaks, I’ve had rabbits drag some tie off sticks 1” by 4-5ft long and not break. The one thing that most trappers do wrong is tying off to a live tree, it has no give when the wire comes up tight. Happy rabbit trapping 👍🏻
I have used stainless when it was still legal to use with great success. This year i used both brass and picture cord lots 9 with the brass and 0 with the picture cord.
The pitchercord seems to be terrible. Not sure why more people aren’t talking about it. All you hear is “ brass is garbage “ lol. Nobody ever talks about pitchercord
@ if the brass kinks at all it will break right away is what i found.
Trapping and snaring for over 40 years used it all! Since the banning of the stainless I use brass with piece of fishing twine to tie it on very thin crossbar that can move very easily! That's what works for me! Even tie it off in a bow so you can take them up much faster when you get bun bun!
Sounds awesome !
I’m heavily convinced it all comes down to how you set your snares at the end of the day.
Now don’t get me wrong, nothing will be stainless steel in terms of durability
Great video Brayden . My experience shows if the wire kinks it breaks much easier. I enjoyed the video. It would be interesting to see what the difference would be between the 20 gauge brass vs the 22 gauge brass.
Thanks for watching !
I use to tie the snares with sud line to the stick and a brass snare . I’ve even heard old timers boiling the brass wires and picture wire to dull them so rabbits were less likely to see it .
Picture cord old man taught me on that never lost one
And once again great video 😮
Thanks for watching!
I don’t have a huge issue with brass to be honest.
Well done bud ! I’ll stick with good ole fashioned brass . Thanks for the comparison .
Thanks !
I will as well.
Good video
@@CordelleHouse-wz8js thank you !
Thanks for watching !
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They will my buddy I’m from the northern peninsula looks like snow for Christmas lol merry Christmas to you and your family
I can appreciate the tests buddy but the proof is in the experiences that I have had with them. I have used stainless in past years when it was legal and had much more success. Last year with the brass was awful. Only started with the picture cord this year. See how she goes. Kinks is also a factor.
I can agree. Stainless will always be best. The final test proved that. I’m interested to see how u do with pitchercord
@@Braydencoish there will be updates
I use brass, had them twist off sometimes not often.it's the coyotes here in ont that gets them
Put a kink in it and pull
@@eddisonrice732 the twisting should’ve done the same thing as a kink when I had my snare tied.
Put a kink in it and pull
Great test , definitely some merit in your test for sure. But like you eluded the test is not scientific test with all variables equal. Ada guessed 10 lb before you did the brass pull test she was close.
Here's one thing I'd like to see and Here's why. You remember how the brass broke much faster on the twist test than the picture cord....so I'd like to see three or four twist then then a break test , I'm curious but I think a couple of twist and the brass will break much easier just a theory lol.
I've used brass for the past few years and this year I had a 50% fail rate , I can't compare to picture cord because I didn't use it.
My grandfather who I snared with for years would only ever use picture cord but Here's the difference it was probably 10 strand maybe even 12 , I think the 6 is garbage to be honest. I had a long break away from snaring but years ago I used all picture cord .... again the heavier stuff....and it was rare to lose a rabbit maybe couple a year.
But great test and it's hard to argue with your results lol Darrell will be our infield tester and I'm curious to see how he does because there were times last year he lost two and three a haul.
The main thing is we don't get a pine marten lol Hope you have a great week and a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you and Danika from Tucker and I and family.
Try it with a kink in it
@@paulbishop5419 the test at the had kinks. When I synched the snare down it made kinks similar to a rabbit synching it down !
@ if you watch big land trapper he kinks the stainless wire and bust it with his hands, he doesnt even use cutters
You need to do some twists and a strength test on the same piece of wire. A rabbit is twisting and pulling, not twisting or pulling.
That’s a good idea. I’ll have to do a test with every possible scenario soon
Pitcher cord I'd say
@@kevinricketts5310 garbage from what this test says lol.
I find the brass now is not as strong as the brass 10 years ago.
I’m not sure what they produced 10 years ago but that certainly could be true
You might lose a rabbit on stainless wire but your percentage will be way lower than brass. I have used stainless wire for 35 years and not once have a caught a pine marten. Just a bunch of bs I say someone without a clue came up with this law. Labrador is aloud with stainless so should Newfoundland. And with the gas prices today I don’t feel like losing rabbits by having to use brass wire.
@@Maurice228A I agree we should be allowed as well. But I will follow the laws !
But you never really broke the stainless wire.
@@newfietrapper how so ? I saw it break lol
You said it yourself "will it never actually broke,your twist slipped
@ whether it “ broke “ or slipped , that’s still a failed snare and an escaped rabbit lol
Your stainless slipped, you don’t have enough strength in you to break it.
Brass is not even close to stainless in strength.
I’m in Labrador and use all stainless and ive never see a broken snare like you do in nfld with brass.
@@Trent_Collins can’t deny the test results lol.
Even if the stainless slipped, that’s the point at which the snare would fail at. That’s a lost bunny either way !!!
Stainless is stronger long term 109% the better snare. But you can’t deny the results
That brass is pure junk wouldn’t even tie it on a tree I wouldn’t lol
I’m certainly not risking a ticket over a rabbit lol !
I personally prefer the brassard wire beacose its more easy to make your scare whit brassard and i dont lost that much rabit at all im from Québec and stanless is alowed but i stay whit brass
@@Vincent-qs8xc interesting take ! Every single person in NL would prefer steel. Very interesting !