HURREM SULTAN x KOSEM SULTAN 👑❤️ | Same Energy 🔥🔥

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  • @editsbytalhaa
    @editsbytalhaa  Год назад +76

    We are soon going to become 100K Family !!! 🎉💖
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  • @trishjaea.9845
    @trishjaea.9845 4 месяца назад +282

    I only realized now in the first scene how the older actress of Hurrem resembles the younger actress a lot. Maybe not the face but their facial expressions and how they behave.

    • @LaaraOfAllah
      @LaaraOfAllah 3 месяца назад +9

      So true that you won’t even realize the change that was made.

    • @ZOO369
      @ZOO369 2 месяца назад +5

      Да!Вахиде Перчин очень талантливая.Она очень точно передала всю мимику,манеру общаться Мерьем.👍👍👍

    • @sofialamri3456
      @sofialamri3456 2 месяца назад +17

      I really liked the older one actually. Could barely feel the change aside from the face and the actress nailed it. Can’t imagine how difficult it is to play a role in pretty much the same style as your predecessor. I don’t really get the hate the actress got like she did the best she could with what she was given to work with.

    • @misstiger8183
      @misstiger8183 28 дней назад

      Lmao exactly my thought!😄

  • @biancab8832
    @biancab8832 2 года назад +3196

    Nurbanu was lucky, she only rised because Hurrem died. If that wasn't the case she could've never overpower her!

    • @zeiniakhan
      @zeiniakhan 2 года назад +295

      Exactly... And even at that time Hurrem's own daughter Mihrimah was more powerful than Nurbano

    • @life_is_beautiful_pal
      @life_is_beautiful_pal 2 года назад +57

      İbrahim pasha ruled the empire for years , even Suleiman was accepting whatever he was saying and according to history he was taking his decisions with Mustafa and Mahidevran so for almost 15 years Mahidevran also contributes to ruling of empire .After Mahidevran leaves the palace and Pasha dies, Through Rüstem Hürrem also contributes to it but not as effective as Mahidevran did coz around that time Shahzade Mustafa is the heir to the throne and all pashas trying to get along well with him. That's normal coz he was the future Sultan in everyone's eyes and everybody thinks Hürrem is going to die. The story of Hürrem is %75 fantasy. For centuries people hated on her and the authors themselves said that " we want Hürrem to be loved"

    • @life_is_beautiful_pal
      @life_is_beautiful_pal 2 года назад +20

      @@zeiniakhan Mihrimah wants to take care of Beyazıt 's wife after he dies but she can't coz Selim doesn't let . Mahidevran Sultan takes care of Hürrem 's daughter in love.... Who is the queen again ?

    • @JustSomeSlavicBoy
      @JustSomeSlavicBoy Год назад +18

      ​@@life_is_beautiful_pal you forgot one thing. Hürrem had Suleiman. Ibrahim was at his peak practically a co-ruller but he was not for long since he got executed by Suleiman and Hürrem most likely played some part in it even tho that she might as well not since Ibrahim was even in history way too proud to see some of his mistakes. The thing with using the title of sultan just too oppose the Persian land owners that used that title while ignoring what will Suleiman think about was the best historical evidence of that.
      Either way Suleiman still ruled the Empire 30 years after the death of Ibrahim and Hürrem had a great influence on him. That with the fact that her son-in-law was grand vezier for 15 years and very close friend to sultan made her extremely influential in the state affairs. She also on many occasions participated in the foreign affairs especially with Crimea but also other countries.
      You also overestimating the impact Mahidevran had on Ibrahim not to mention that Mustafa was a kid for a good part of Ibrahim's term as grand vizier.

    • @jeguljork3197
      @jeguljork3197 Год назад +1

      Hurrem is lucky that she died before. If she kept alive and her son become king, Nurbanu would give her Death like dog cause Hurrem son isn't like Mustafa who loves his mother. Her son is selfish, mannerless like her, he would also listen to his Wife as Sulaiman

  • @zeiniakhan
    @zeiniakhan 2 года назад +4522

    Turhan Destroyed Kosem... But....
    No one dared to Disturb Hurrem Sultan ... She died like a real queen with pride

    • @aninditaofficial4729
      @aninditaofficial4729 2 года назад +282

      Hurrem died in cancer, is it a death like a queen? Hurrem plays like hypocrite... She knows about her son's relationship. Kosem died like a survivor.

    • @ramn_bennington
      @ramn_bennington 2 года назад +416

      @@aninditaofficial4729 cancer is a illness. What problem you have with people that die for this? Hürrem made mistakes but this phrase is rude

    • @aninditaofficial4729
      @aninditaofficial4729 2 года назад +64

      @@ramn_bennington I know the sufferings of cancer. It's not peaceful, it is painful than death in other causes.

    • @paslaruflorin-alexandru9088
      @paslaruflorin-alexandru9088 2 года назад +157

      That is because they were în different positions...Kosem was still stronger and more controlling than Hurrem.

    • @paslaruflorin-alexandru9088
      @paslaruflorin-alexandru9088 2 года назад +144

      And Turhan still didnt achieve în life what Kosem did.

  • @MuntasheerNoor
    @MuntasheerNoor 2 года назад +1150

    Most powerful sultana ever haseki hurrem sultan

    • @editsbytalhaa
      @editsbytalhaa  2 года назад +35

      AGREED ❤️🔥

    • @prettysurelourd5703
      @prettysurelourd5703 2 года назад +33

      lol valide sultan and at the same time a Regent is higher and more powerful than just haseki, haseki is just a consort sultana to ruler Sultan, while Regent is technically a ruler and valide is the highest ranking of a woman sultana in the ottoman dynasty

    • @MuntasheerNoor
      @MuntasheerNoor 2 года назад +50

      Hurrem sultan dead as haseki sultan.But If she had survived she would have been the Valide Sultan.History and later descendants of the later Ottoman Empire also believed that Hurram Sultan was a powerful sultan.Even Nurbanu Safiye and Kosem Sultan remembered and respected Hurrem Sultan.You can search if you want.And the most important thing is that Valide is just a tittle. And no matter what the title, the woman became strong by her ability and intelligence so she is a strong and powerful sultana ever.Now, whether you agree or not, everyone's opinion is no longer the same, one out of 100 people may have the opposite opinion.

    • @im_b_b
      @im_b_b 2 года назад +37

      Watch the whole series. Kosem was the most powerful Sultana, she was loved by both the ordinary and Sultan family. And she ruled the Kingdom & herem as well.

    • @MuntasheerNoor
      @MuntasheerNoor 2 года назад +10

      @@im_b_b Understand first, then talk. maybe you didn't understand what I meant

  • @ramn_bennington
    @ramn_bennington 2 года назад +1136

    Tuhran became Kosem's enemy in the light of the sun and destroyed her. Nurbanu had luck that Hürrem died soon

    • @sharyarliaqat9325
      @sharyarliaqat9325 2 года назад +68

      Because hurrem was the wife of ruling king so that it was obvious that nurbano can't overpower her and turhan could over kosem because her son was the king

    • @ramn_bennington
      @ramn_bennington 2 года назад +28

      @@sharyarliaqat9325 I think more because Hürrem would become Valide Sultan and Valide is above Haseki.

    • @qtaro-7097
      @qtaro-7097 Год назад

      kosem shouldve put her in a bag and throw her into the sea 😂

    • @viktoriyagereluk8463
      @viktoriyagereluk8463 Год назад +1

      No such thing as luck

    • @multipurpose6984
      @multipurpose6984 8 месяцев назад

      THAT WAS BCZ TURHANS SON WAS KING

  • @Lunarempire95
    @Lunarempire95 2 года назад +228

    Vahide(the second actress who interpreted hurrem's role) gave so much class to the character, giving the real queen vibes
    As for myriem, you couldn't but admire the chemistry in the romantic scenes between her and suleiman, other than that... What she really delivered was the thirst for power, the narcissism,... I am a huge fan of the actress though ❤️❤️
    (My own opinion guys... 🙏🙏🙏)

    • @sofialamri3456
      @sofialamri3456 2 месяца назад +1

      With Vahide we did not get to see the same chemistry as with Meryem but the lack of intimate/kissing scenes kind of brought out a different chemistry but they still looked like a genuine married couple.

  • @tiara.larasatii
    @tiara.larasatii 2 года назад +197

    Hurremm is the one. The first to fight in that palace! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

    • @life_is_beautiful_pal
      @life_is_beautiful_pal 2 года назад +3

      Actually the first fight happens between the mother queen and Mahidevran. The mother queen actually supports Hürrem and hates on Mahidevran

    • @piotrrutkowskl9972
      @piotrrutkowskl9972 Год назад +1

      @@life_is_beautiful_pal huahahahahaha! Mahidevran hatun never had powerr

    • @sofialamri3456
      @sofialamri3456 2 месяца назад +1

      I get that the Sultanas don’t want a rebellious concubine and want someone obedient and docile (gulnihal, valeria etc) since they can accept the sultan being with other women and they’re obedient and easily controlled and happy with what they get. But they won’t rise to power like Hurrem or Nurbanu did because sure the obedient ones can adapt quickly to being slaves but the rebellious ones can rise to power as opposed to the obedient. Am I making sense? 😅😅

  • @micow9951
    @micow9951 2 года назад +573

    While kosem lost you can't deny both she and hurrem were terrifying in their these scenes nurbanu and turhan were shaking , not at all like hafsa sultan she was powerful yes but not smart enough nor powerful enough to defeat a 20 some year old concubine from Ruthenia let alone make her shake in fear

    • @editsbytalhaa
      @editsbytalhaa  2 года назад +17

      Agreed

    • @miavika1074
      @miavika1074 Год назад +22

      17 actually, still a teenager. Which makes it worse 🤣 hafsa couldn’t beat a f***ing teenager

    • @alexaemma6
      @alexaemma6 Год назад +1

      Es thurhan la hija de Kosem??

    • @AsadAli-fg9yn
      @AsadAli-fg9yn Год назад

      ​@@alexaemma6no

    • @abi_co
      @abi_co Год назад +1

      ​@@alexaemma6no, Turhan fue su nuera, por que Turhan era concubina de Ibrahim el hijo de Kosem

  • @bruhno1545
    @bruhno1545 Год назад +243

    Hurrem sultan: first concubine to become the haseki sultan. Started the sultanate of women and broke the glass ceiling of royal women.
    Kosem sultan: Central to the sultanate of women, strongest and longest reigning queen and regent. Independently reigned and was given the title of magnificent mother.
    Bottom-line: Queens never d!e 👑
    Both were amazing 💯

    • @editsbytalhaa
      @editsbytalhaa  Год назад +2

      💕💕💕❤️❤️🥺

    • @tanmoymishra4892
      @tanmoymishra4892 Год назад +3

      Hurrem is best

    • @ahmetzeytin7855
      @ahmetzeytin7855 Год назад +2

      Dizilerde böyle işleniyor ancak gerçek tarihi araştırmalarda Osmanlı İmparatorluğunda bir dönem kadınların yönetimde söz sahibi olduğunu fakat bilinenin aksine gerçek demir leydinin Hatice Turhan Sultan olduğu anlaşılmış gerçekte tek güçlü kadın sultanın kendisi olduğu kabul edilmiş ve hatta devlet yönetimi ile ilgili kararları emirleri ferman ları ile ilgili 164 mektuptan oluşan arşivi bulunup yayınlandı.

    • @Yanderes230
      @Yanderes230 2 месяца назад

      The Comment I'm Looking For.

    • @Yanderes230
      @Yanderes230 2 месяца назад

      ​@@ahmetzeytin7855Turhan Kösemden dahamı güçlü yani

  • @SonyAditya-oo3iu
    @SonyAditya-oo3iu Месяц назад +4

    Dua Wanita yang Hebat, kuat, setia dan sangat cerdas. Hurem sultana dan kosem Sultana ❤❤❤❤❤

  • @alishaaa7583
    @alishaaa7583 Год назад +150

    Kosem was the real power🔥🔥🔥🔥 she lived without a sultan and controlled everything even when Ahmed was alive ,she is the real queen!

    • @Muneeburrehman121
      @Muneeburrehman121 Год назад +3

      But Sultan Murad destroy kosem

    • @aysenur4742
      @aysenur4742 11 месяцев назад +1

      That’s why Turhan destroyed Kosem ahahahahahah!

    • @user-yk2tt6fo6n
      @user-yk2tt6fo6n 8 месяцев назад +2

      No qosem got the power because of the early death of handan sultan & safiye sultan where hurrem had fight Begum sultana hetiza sultan ibrahim pasha, mahideran sultan... So she is the real queen

    • @naeemislam2206
      @naeemislam2206 8 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@user-yk2tt6fo6n you forget sha siltan. fatma sultan. mustafa. and other pasha and chenicharis. 😅😅

    • @user-yk2tt6fo6n
      @user-yk2tt6fo6n 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@naeemislam2206 r8 she fight with all that strong enemy

  • @N.E.K.O
    @N.E.K.O 2 года назад +15

    If it wasn't for Hurrem leading to an era of sultanas ruling, Kosem wouldn't even exist.

    • @bruhno1545
      @bruhno1545 Год назад +3

      She would actually, her husband died earlier and she still reigned.

    • @N.E.K.O
      @N.E.K.O Год назад

      @@bruhno1545 no because woman wouldn't be allowed to rule like they weren't before Hurrem

  • @gulirakhimova2397
    @gulirakhimova2397 Год назад +9

    Kesem 😻💖💫

  • @elmddineuroision2433
    @elmddineuroision2433 2 года назад +91

    Vahide Perçin en az Meryem Üzerli kadar Hürrem karakterine hayat verdi çok asıl oynuyor

    • @Imjesha
      @Imjesha Год назад

      Hayır bence

  • @tahsinarahman2103
    @tahsinarahman2103 Год назад +58

    No one can Beat Valide Muazzema Nayeb E Kosem Sultan. She is Everything and a perfect example of a Queen. She lived in the roughest time ever but Still controlled everything properly. Atleast she tried. And remember one thing, hurrem is known as Suleiman's Wife where Sultan Ahmed is known as Valide Kosem Sultan's Husband.
    Kosem Sultan ever 🌻

    • @sameenanaz3311
      @sameenanaz3311 Год назад

      💯

    • @sameenanaz3311
      @sameenanaz3311 Год назад +6

      Exactly hurrem's only power was suleman and kosem was even powerful after her husband she had the power and real queen

    • @gunescelik4207
      @gunescelik4207 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@sameenanaz3311Hahahahahhahaha! Hurrem Sultan was most powerful and smart! Go cryy now

    • @aysenur4742
      @aysenur4742 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@sameenanaz3311 hahahaahhaa! That’s why Hurrem is known as Top powerful and intelligent Queen and is loved and respected even after 500 years! Go cryyy

    • @fariyaafroz7608
      @fariyaafroz7608 10 месяцев назад +3

      Because Ahmed wasn’t powerful like Suleiman.

  • @user-kn6vo8pt1r
    @user-kn6vo8pt1r Год назад +8

    one of my favorite scenes
    she's so intimidating i love herrrr

  • @Silabenimevet
    @Silabenimevet 2 года назад +123

    Turhan Sultanın Kösem Sultanı yıkması dışında sorun yok

    • @editsbytalhaa
      @editsbytalhaa  Год назад +4

      Turhan ❤️>>>>>

    • @Bushra-lf2hm
      @Bushra-lf2hm Месяц назад +1

      Turhan only did because kosem was too old, she had no power technically because her grandson was on the throne and not her sons or husband
      Turhan couldn't do shit when ibrahim was on the throne because ibrahim despite being mad would never allow the killing of his mother or even if turhan killed kosem during ibrahim's reign, ibrahim would've executed it was only she got power when mehmed IV became the sultan at 6-8 years old and she became regent(basically all powers kosem used to have)

  • @satinesupernova577
    @satinesupernova577 Год назад +14

    Haseki Hurrem Sultan, both either the character and the actress were out of this world! To me, they are (if I may say) PERFECTION. CRUEL yet MERCIFUL. ARROGANT yet DOWN TO EARTH. VULNARABLE yet TOUGH. VISCIOUS yet LOVING. AMBITIOUS yet PATIENT. Hurrem Sultan is just irreplaceable!

  • @catalinarojas3860
    @catalinarojas3860 2 года назад +13

    Ambas eran poderosas, hermosas e indomables; las mejores Sultanas. 🖤🖤

  • @moroka4956
    @moroka4956 2 месяца назад +2

    Актриса, играющая Турхан потрясающе красива.

  • @htc2147
    @htc2147 2 года назад +116

    Ve Turhan sultan, Kösem sultanı boğdurur

    • @kullaniciadi79
      @kullaniciadi79 2 года назад +11

      Ve aslan terbiyecisi öldürüür😅

  • @AliZarian-cl3zz
    @AliZarian-cl3zz 2 месяца назад +2

    Vahide percins skin is drop dead gorgeous

  • @life_is_beautiful_pal
    @life_is_beautiful_pal 2 года назад +58

    Kösem is the strongest of all in terms of power . She ruled the empire

    • @athirajoy7823
      @athirajoy7823 2 года назад +2

      She got it by a chance actually! While Hurrem didn't because Sultan Suleiman was alive! Otherwize, of course she would have shown the powerful of all! She paved the way for her successors, made the way a little more easier with her revolution.

    • @life_is_beautiful_pal
      @life_is_beautiful_pal 2 года назад +8

      @@athirajoy7823 Actually Hürrem was supported by the Mother Queen in real life and she was powerful thanks to Suleiman ,no one would listen to her if Suleiman was dead . People in the empire were even hating on Suleiman after Mustafa's death . Hürrem 's power is overrated as a historical myth . She didn't do anything more than a normal Haseki does

    • @kawsarnaseri3208
      @kawsarnaseri3208 2 года назад +1

      @@life_is_beautiful_pal hahahahahaha! Liies! Hurrem ruled state with Suleiman! Sit down

    • @kawsarnaseri3208
      @kawsarnaseri3208 2 года назад

      @@life_is_beautiful_pal read history! Hahahahaah! Who would listen to Kosem if not her sons ahahahahahaha

    • @kawsarnaseri3208
      @kawsarnaseri3208 2 года назад

      @@life_is_beautiful_pal stop being jeaaalouss hahahahaha! Hurrem did everything more than Haseki. No one would listen to kosem if she lost all her sons! Lmaoooo

  • @cricketshots3513
    @cricketshots3513 Год назад +10

    Although Kosem Sultan was killed but one can't deny the terror and fear of both Kosem Sultan and Hurrem. Turhan and Nurbanu were shaking badly with fear . And no doubt Kosem was the most powerful, intelligent and smartest sultana ever existed only fact that droned her was she trust a traitor who she forgave before for disobedience. But not forget Kosem stood tall and rise great even after the death of Sultan Ahmed but Hurrem always had the support of Sultan Suleiman and if sultan Suleiman's had died Hurrem can't stand all the circumstances and would fall.

  • @user-xi2ob1zw4q
    @user-xi2ob1zw4q Год назад +8

    Hürrem diyorum başka bişey demiyorum hürremimde hürremim 🔥

  • @naziaislamnuha3103
    @naziaislamnuha3103 2 года назад +37

    Kosem sultan was beautiful and kind....❣️❣️

    • @shoshokikocockerspaniel67ll8
      @shoshokikocockerspaniel67ll8 Год назад +3

      Kind? She killled her sons for powerrr hahahahahahahaha

    • @shoshokikocockerspaniel67ll8
      @shoshokikocockerspaniel67ll8 Год назад +1

      Hurrem was kind, not Kosem

    • @piotrrutkowskl9972
      @piotrrutkowskl9972 Год назад

      Kind? Hahahahahaha! She killled thousands and her children for powerr! Read history!

    • @piotrrutkowskl9972
      @piotrrutkowskl9972 Год назад +1

      Hurrem was kind and beautiful! Poooor you

    • @bruhno1545
      @bruhno1545 Год назад +5

      @@shoshokikocockerspaniel67ll8 she killed ibrahim only, because he was cruel. Read history not shows. Plus she never compared hurrem and kosem, why are you comparing both were amazing

  • @ahsen9252
    @ahsen9252 Год назад +6

    Kösem Sultan'a aşığım ❤️.

  • @miahmiag2011
    @miahmiag2011 7 месяцев назад +2

    Kosem have all the power without the king and with the king❤❤

  • @thealchemist2869
    @thealchemist2869 Год назад +7

    Kosem 👸 I cried at her death…Her biggest weakness was mercy towards traitors

  • @shakiramonille2559
    @shakiramonille2559 Год назад +3

    magnificent kosem....

  • @jeanneaubert4193
    @jeanneaubert4193 2 года назад +10

    Hurrem Shah (Queen) Sultan 👑✊🏼

  • @3picblue
    @3picblue 9 месяцев назад +2

    I think Hurrem was is the dark horse because no one in the whole world would overpower Suleiman but she still managed to share his power... Suleiman's successors were not so impactful so their smart wives overpowered them easily until Murad became adult, neither his wife nor his mother rose to overshadow him but unfortunately he died so young and again his weak brother enthroned and sultanate of women continued...
    I am amazed how women from that era that too from Islam community managed to exercised such power and influenced the whole world...
    ALL HAIL THE QUEENS

  • @fizafabi7048
    @fizafabi7048 2 года назад +11

    Hurrem 🔥🔥🔥

  • @tanmoymishra4892
    @tanmoymishra4892 Год назад +2

    Hurrem is always best of all Ottoman sultanas. She is the real queen of all Ottoman empire.

  • @sarahdemir776
    @sarahdemir776 2 года назад +9

    Hurrem Sultan! 👑👑👑

  • @camiyep0lat7585
    @camiyep0lat7585 2 года назад +3

    Hurrem sultan always! ✊🏼👑

  • @marissakass3606
    @marissakass3606 2 года назад +8

    Hurrem Shah Empress Sultan 🔝🔝🔝

  • @Pakistaniwithknife-worldgeoedi
    @Pakistaniwithknife-worldgeoedi Год назад +1

    "I'll put you in a bag then throw you in the cold waters of bosphorus" Best lines ever 🗿🔥

  • @esirreversible
    @esirreversible 2 года назад +8

    Mis sultanas favoritas🛐

  • @munazaimtiaz
    @munazaimtiaz Год назад +1

    yarrrr im in love with your EDITS sooooo good

  • @mashhurabahriddinova128
    @mashhurabahriddinova128 2 года назад +6

    Hürrem sultan was really sultan.She died like the best and really great queen

  • @sarajka007
    @sarajka007 10 месяцев назад +1

    But Kösem's elegance even while she's threating to Turhan is other level

  • @hayrunisahelimergun7873
    @hayrunisahelimergun7873 2 года назад +9

    Turhan :zortt!😂
    Nurbanu: oh my good

  • @Angelacorzo..07
    @Angelacorzo..07 Год назад +17

    Nurbanu le tenía miedo a huerren. Se le notaba en la mirada..por eso era cautelosa .😁 saludos

  • @random_videos11
    @random_videos11 2 года назад +9

    Kosem was betrayed by her student. While hurrem remain hurrem. Both died but i prefer the kosem story and the series although i watched hurrem too

    • @ajlee4136
      @ajlee4136 2 года назад +4

      both MC series are nice but i like Kosem more..

    • @ValideTurhanSultann
      @ValideTurhanSultann 2 года назад

      The first Kösem betrayed.

  • @abc124-b2c
    @abc124-b2c День назад

    Hurrem's threat was dangerous 😮

  • @humbaljameel6060
    @humbaljameel6060 Год назад +11

    Hurrem and kosem both are powerful but kosem is literally the strongest sultan because her love Ahmed died and after his death his stepson send her to old palace even he killed his own brother but she still stand for sultanate osmania she literally donate her life for this kingdom

    • @naeemislam2206
      @naeemislam2206 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@Gjakdjruknownhpjsbecause they was more power.

  • @ColAiman-sv2zh
    @ColAiman-sv2zh Год назад +1

    Overall, long her majesty Queen Elizabeth II, rest in peace my only queen ✌️

  • @dorbeshsikdar7669
    @dorbeshsikdar7669 2 года назад +63

    Koesm sultan best

    • @AhmedGotaymon7
      @AhmedGotaymon7 2 года назад +7

      Nope, Haseki Hurrem Sultan is better
      Ahmet gave Kosem, Hurrems old crown
      theres levels to this shi

    • @tiara.larasatii
      @tiara.larasatii 2 года назад

      @@AhmedGotaymon7 YESS

    • @larydrowned2890
      @larydrowned2890 2 года назад +2

      @@AhmedGotaymon7 He gave her the crown yes, but she was worthy to wear and wear it, she was regent of the Great Ottoman Empire and she is the magnificent mother.
      Besides, the fact that he gave him the crown does not change anything, both were powerful, Hürrem started the women's sultanate and Sultana Kösem raised it to the highest point of power. 🛐🛐🛐🛐🛐

    • @sarahdemir776
      @sarahdemir776 2 года назад

      @@larydrowned2890 Hurrem sultan the best!

    • @gunescelik4207
      @gunescelik4207 2 года назад +1

      Hurrem is the Legend even after 600 years, considered as the most powerful Sultana in the Ottoman Empire . She broke the glass ceiling for royal women and started Era of Sultanate of Women. Her story is an inspiring look at how one woman can bring so much influence and change to a leader and an empire, even if husband stands behind you!
      Hurrem’s power in the Sultan’s court grew stronger with every passing year. As Navagero wrote in 1553, “there has not been in the Ottoman house a lady that has had more authority.” Her authority showed not only in her firm grip over Suleiman’s heart but also in her ability to compete with the male rivals in Suleiman’s court, and to be a skillful sovereign and ruler. Suleiman the Magnificent repeatedly came to her for counsel and even appointed her as his STATE ADVISOR in foreign affairs, which allowed her to act as a diplomat with foreign powers.
      Also, it’s recorded by history that she was official Divan member, attending meetings, voting, listening to males and taking part of the meetings “under the dome”, which is called the Kubbealtı. Only men were doing this before her.
      Hurrem also had a seal, that allowed her to correspond to MALE rulers and kings around the world. Before that females of the empire were only allowed to correspond with female rulers (like empress or queen : Russia and England) or princesses. Hurrem acted as a diplomat with foreign powers through her letters using the title of Shah (queen), from the day she became first and only wife of Padisah in Ottoman history. It is seen that his signature is always referred to as " The State of İsmetlu Hürrem Shah Sultan Aliyyetü'ş-Şân".
      Hurrem also ruled the empire when Sultan was away on wars, signing important documents on his behalf and receiving diplomats and foreign ambassadors. Hurrem was a keen advisor to Suleiman in political matters, particularly when he was absent from Istanbul on his numerous military campaigns. She regularly sent letters to the Sultan, in which, in addition to expressing her great love and longing for him, she also informed him of the situation in the capital and of any events that required his immediate attention or action. In being thus vigilant, Hurrem protected Suleiman’s interests and contributed to the success of his reign. There is no doubt that Suleiman trusted her more than he did his male advisors.
      Hurrem is known to have been very generous to the poor.
      Not only did Hurrem Sultan exercise unprecedented influence on state politics as Suleiman’s chief advisor and diplomat with foreign powers, but she was also fully devoted to philanthropy. Hurrem’s charitable work surpassed any of Ottoman women in volume and geographic reach. She gave inordinate sums of money to help the poor and needy, she built and sponsored endowments (waqfs) in cities like Istanbul, Constantinople, Mecca, Medina, Jerusalem, Damascus, Baghdad, Konya, Edirne, Bulgaria.
      Her major charitable projects include:
      ✔️Haseki Sultan Complex in Istanbul-(Haseki Hürrem Sultan Külliyesi) that consists of a Friday mosque, a soup-kitchen (imaret), a madrasa, an elementary school (mektep) and a hospital(Haseki Dar al-Shifa). The latter is still used as a polyclinic by Haseki State Hospital.
      ✔️ Two Quranic schools
      ✔️ Women hospital near the women's slave market (Avret Pazary).
      ✔️Hurrem Sultan Fountain in Istanbul, Sultanahmet area, a landmark in Istanbul and favorite spot for tourists for taking vacation photos with beautiful background.
      ✔️ Hagia Sophia Hurrem Sultan Bathhouse (Ayasofya Hürrem Sultan Hamamı)- receives guests and tourists daily and is now operated by Haseki Tourism Group.
      ✔️ Khaseki Sultan Complex in Jerusalem, that included a mosque, large khan (inn)-caravanserai for travelers and merchants, a 55-room-shelter for pilgrims, a bakery for the conduct of charity services for the poor, flour mills, water mills, soap factories, an area with cellars, public toilets, stables and a soup kitchen “Haseki Sultan Imaret” serving more than 500 Jerusalem's paupers, al-Aqsa's needy worshipers and seminarists. Most of the buildings, apart from the lodge and the mosque, are still standing today. The charitable soup kitchen called “Takiyah Khaski Sultan Al-Imara” works to present day, with two meals still being served to the poor and homeless according to Hürrem's original recipe!
      ✔️ A caravanserai, mosque and soup kitchen built in the city of Svilengrad , Bulgaria, the name of which was Cisr-i M Ustafa Pasha at that time.
      ✔️Charitable soup kitchens “Haseki Imarets” in Edirne, Mecca, Medina, Konya, Baghdad.
      ✔️At one point Hurrem even sold her own gold, pearls and jewels to pay for Janissaries’ (Ottoman soldier’s) boots and a hike in their pay.
      Apart from these Hurrem is also known to frequently send her embroideries and handmade perfumes to slaves, poor women and Harrem concubines.
      Hurrem was the first in many things. Even where she was buried was a first. Suleiman buried her in his mosque complex. Not her own as it used to be according the Ottoman’s law. In HIS.
      Even after 600 years, Hurrem is loved and resppected in the world by milllions for her thousands charities, strength, smartness, boldness!
      POWER! 👑👑👑🔝🔝🔝

  • @Factsfactorial605
    @Factsfactorial605 7 дней назад

    Kosem is the real queen 👑 she ruled without any prince so she deserves the crown 👑😌

  • @azmirishikder2851
    @azmirishikder2851 2 года назад +4

    Kosëm Sultan çok esha ❤️❤️

  • @gabp3781
    @gabp3781 Год назад +4

    Even tho Turhan destroyed Kosem, but at that moment Turhan's life flashed before her eyes. Without Kosem, Turhan would be nothing

    • @nadeina7580
      @nadeina7580 Год назад +1

      turhan sultan was so clever n powerful more than kosem if u don't agree with me remember Who finish kosem

    • @Whitish2882
      @Whitish2882 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@nadeina7580kosem is smarter the turhan idiot

    • @Whitish2882
      @Whitish2882 9 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@nadeina7580turhan is the only main reason why kosem died

  • @matmazeliniz1753
    @matmazeliniz1753 2 года назад +11

    Ama sonunda Nurbanu da Turhan sultanda istediğine kavuştu :)

    • @nilayt.1909
      @nilayt.1909 Год назад

      Turhan kösem sultanı yıktı evet ama Nurbanu sadece Hürrem Sultan'ın ölmesinden yararlandı

    • @matmazeliniz1753
      @matmazeliniz1753 Год назад

      @@nilayt.1909 Her türlü istediklerine kavuştular.

  • @arifekocaturacl7792
    @arifekocaturacl7792 2 года назад +4

    Çok güzel olmuş efsane muhteşem

  • @uguraslan8366
    @uguraslan8366 2 года назад +4

    The real Iron Lady (Iron queen) was kosem sultan with no doubt.

    • @gunescelik4207
      @gunescelik4207 2 года назад

      Hurrem is the Legend even after 600 years, considered as the most powerful Sultana in the Ottoman Empire . She broke the glass ceiling for royal women and started Era of Sultanate of Women. Her story is an inspiring look at how one woman can bring so much influence and change to a leader and an empire, even if husband stands behind you!
      Hurrem’s power in the Sultan’s court grew stronger with every passing year. As Navagero wrote in 1553, “there has not been in the Ottoman house a lady that has had more authority.” Her authority showed not only in her firm grip over Suleiman’s heart but also in her ability to compete with the male rivals in Suleiman’s court, and to be a skillful sovereign and ruler. Suleiman the Magnificent repeatedly came to her for counsel and even appointed her as his STATE ADVISOR in foreign affairs, which allowed her to act as a diplomat with foreign powers.
      Also, it’s recorded by history that she was official Divan member, attending meetings, voting, listening to males and taking part of the meetings “under the dome”, which is called the Kubbealtı. Only men were doing this before her.
      Hurrem also had a seal, that allowed her to correspond to MALE rulers and kings around the world. Before that females of the empire were only allowed to correspond with female rulers (like empress or queen : Russia and England) or princesses. Hurrem acted as a diplomat with foreign powers through her letters using the title of Shah (queen), from the day she became first and only wife of Padisah in Ottoman history. It is seen that his signature is always referred to as " The State of İsmetlu Hürrem Shah Sultan Aliyyetü'ş-Şân".
      Hurrem also ruled the empire when Sultan was away on wars, signing important documents on his behalf and receiving diplomats and foreign ambassadors. Hurrem was a keen advisor to Suleiman in political matters, particularly when he was absent from Istanbul on his numerous military campaigns. She regularly sent letters to the Sultan, in which, in addition to expressing her great love and longing for him, she also informed him of the situation in the capital and of any events that required his immediate attention or action. In being thus vigilant, Hurrem protected Suleiman’s interests and contributed to the success of his reign. There is no doubt that Suleiman trusted her more than he did his male advisors.
      Hurrem is known to have been very generous to the poor.
      Not only did Hurrem Sultan exercise unprecedented influence on state politics as Suleiman’s chief advisor and diplomat with foreign powers, but she was also fully devoted to philanthropy. Hurrem’s charitable work surpassed any of Ottoman women in volume and geographic reach. She gave inordinate sums of money to help the poor and needy, she built and sponsored endowments (waqfs) in cities like Istanbul, Constantinople, Mecca, Medina, Jerusalem, Damascus, Baghdad, Konya, Edirne, Bulgaria.
      Her major charitable projects include:
      ✔️Haseki Sultan Complex in Istanbul-(Haseki Hürrem Sultan Külliyesi) that consists of a Friday mosque, a soup-kitchen (imaret), a madrasa, an elementary school (mektep) and a hospital(Haseki Dar al-Shifa). The latter is still used as a polyclinic by Haseki State Hospital.
      ✔️ Two Quranic schools
      ✔️ Women hospital near the women's slave market (Avret Pazary).
      ✔️Hurrem Sultan Fountain in Istanbul, Sultanahmet area, a landmark in Istanbul and favorite spot for tourists for taking vacation photos with beautiful background.
      ✔️ Hagia Sophia Hurrem Sultan Bathhouse (Ayasofya Hürrem Sultan Hamamı)- receives guests and tourists daily and is now operated by Haseki Tourism Group.
      ✔️ Khaseki Sultan Complex in Jerusalem, that included a mosque, large khan (inn)-caravanserai for travelers and merchants, a 55-room-shelter for pilgrims, a bakery for the conduct of charity services for the poor, flour mills, water mills, soap factories, an area with cellars, public toilets, stables and a soup kitchen “Haseki Sultan Imaret” serving more than 500 Jerusalem's paupers, al-Aqsa's needy worshipers and seminarists. Most of the buildings, apart from the lodge and the mosque, are still standing today. The charitable soup kitchen called “Takiyah Khaski Sultan Al-Imara” works to present day, with two meals still being served to the poor and homeless according to Hürrem's original recipe!
      ✔️ A caravanserai, mosque and soup kitchen built in the city of Svilengrad , Bulgaria, the name of which was Cisr-i M Ustafa Pasha at that time.
      ✔️Charitable soup kitchens “Haseki Imarets” in Edirne, Mecca, Medina, Konya, Baghdad.
      ✔️At one point Hurrem even sold her own gold, pearls and jewels to pay for Janissaries’ (Ottoman soldier’s) boots and a hike in their pay.
      Apart from these Hurrem is also known to frequently send her embroideries and handmade perfumes to slaves, poor women and Harrem concubines.
      Hurrem was the first in many things. Even where she was buried was a first. Suleiman buried her in his mosque complex. Not her own as it used to be according the Ottoman’s law. In HIS.
      Even after 600 years, Hurrem is loved and resppected in the world by milllions for her thousands charities, strength, smartness, boldness!
      POWER! 👑👑👑🔝🔝🔝

    • @annieleonhart6693
      @annieleonhart6693 Год назад

      @@gunescelik4207 go and read history, by historicals, the most strongest was Kösem yall are wrong, Kösem was more powerfull

  • @GeorgNMC
    @GeorgNMC Год назад +1

    Nurbanu knew that Hurrem isn’t just through words around she was terrified not just scared

  • @Nabi7778
    @Nabi7778 Год назад +3

    For those saying Hurrem died respected and kosem was taken down by turhan well Hurrem sultan was genius and powerful with her husband along but kosem sultan had gone through a lot and she was a real warrior. A queen lives like a real queen even if for a single day. About the kids Hurrem thought her children to be kind also scary monsters if needed just as she was so they paid a lot respect to her but when it comes to kosem I think he children were all ungrateful and unworthy of her efforts so she did great executing them

  • @ashshifamahmud1809
    @ashshifamahmud1809 2 месяца назад

    Hurrem is damn Mann. She is the queen of the queens.

  • @xxblue0766
    @xxblue0766 Год назад +5

    Turhan kösemi yok etti diyenler siz şaka mısınız kösem çok yaşlanmıştı ve güç kaybetmişti ayrıca Kösemin adamları ihanet etti o yüzden kaybetti yoksa hala çok güçlüydü kösem gerçek bir kraliçedir Kösem > Turhan

  • @chaosgamer3668
    @chaosgamer3668 2 года назад +1

    I like both of them!

  • @gunescelik4207
    @gunescelik4207 11 месяцев назад +4

    Hurrem Sultan always!❤️❤️

  • @mustarommustarom4215
    @mustarommustarom4215 Месяц назад

    Saya sungguh kagum dengan kosem kekuatanya semasa hidup tak tertandingi. Hanya satu kekalahanya ketika sudah tua dan berhadapan dengan kelicikan Menantunya (Turhan Sultan)

  • @zeiniakhan
    @zeiniakhan 2 года назад +3

    Hurrem Sultan is best,, ❤👑

  • @AycanKazimova
    @AycanKazimova Год назад +2

    Bu hikayede Turhanı Nurbanudan farklı kılan Nurbanu Selimin aşkıyla yükseldi, Turhansa kendi gücüyle.

  • @douxkee
    @douxkee 2 года назад +5

    Hurrem was best , she paved the way.

  • @Carla-ep8zf
    @Carla-ep8zf 21 день назад

    Kosem my forever favourite the most powerful Female Sultana❤

  • @medine9144
    @medine9144 2 года назад +4

    Ikiside Asil Sultanlardır

  • @MadinaShomatova-v2z
    @MadinaShomatova-v2z 4 месяца назад

    This womans very strong

  • @egemenak5226
    @egemenak5226 2 года назад +4

    Kösem is the most powerful woman and she was literally the empress, I don't understand why you keep simping Hürrem under the comment section. You might love her but that doesn't mean she was more powerful. Ottoman Empire has begun falling down after Kösem gone

    • @dinarodriguezberrio3233
      @dinarodriguezberrio3233 2 года назад +2

      Hürrem was the first empress of the ottoman empire, that's what Haseki mean. Empire's wife. Kösem only was regent because her husband died and her son was a child, if Murad was older she never had became a regent.

    • @egemenak5226
      @egemenak5226 2 года назад +1

      @@dinarodriguezberrio3233 you're a Spaniard and I am Turkish from Istanbul - they teach us what Haseki means in school. Haseki is not something special for Hürrem Sultan, Haseki means the emperor's favourite consort, nothing alike with the title "empress".

    • @egemenak5226
      @egemenak5226 2 года назад

      @@dinarodriguezberrio3233 and before becoming the regent (i.e taking the role of the empress since you cannot simply become the literal empress in Ottoman Empire), Kösem was also a Haseki Sultan, and there were many other Haseki women in the palace.

    • @dinarodriguezberrio3233
      @dinarodriguezberrio3233 2 года назад

      @@egemenak5226 well, as a Turkish you have to know that before Hürrem, Haseki doesn't exist. And a regent is not the big deal, Turhan was one, and a Haseki too. Kösem had the power just for her sons...

    • @egemenak5226
      @egemenak5226 2 года назад

      @@dinarodriguezberrio3233 clearly you don't know anything about the Ottoman history, yet you keep talking and teaching the ones who know. Pity of yours, haha

  • @dinahussaini5129
    @dinahussaini5129 5 месяцев назад +1

    Hürrem sultan👑👑 the almighty. Kösem❤.

  • @user-tb8zm3gu3w
    @user-tb8zm3gu3w 2 года назад +3

    Hurrem Sultan

  • @zozotharwat9652
    @zozotharwat9652 Год назад +1

    Hurrem solos all your favsss 💋💋💋💋💋

  • @mussharatnaaz1325
    @mussharatnaaz1325 2 года назад +4

    Both are powerful but Hurrem is fun 😝🤣

    • @HafsCubicle8794
      @HafsCubicle8794 2 года назад

      Yes, exactly the cheerfulness is their difference.

    • @HafsCubicle8794
      @HafsCubicle8794 2 года назад

      Hurrems is fun in whatever she did

  • @jeggrassner
    @jeggrassner 7 месяцев назад

    I just gotta say this but I LOVE Hurrem's black crown here ❤

  • @nemui1312
    @nemui1312 2 года назад +5

    Keşke tehtitte brakmasaydın be hürrem diri diri çuvala koysaydında belki beyazıt hayatta kalırdı.

    • @pembeduslerr7178
      @pembeduslerr7178 2 года назад

      Nurbanu nün ne suçu varki?? Direk oğlunu gomseymis baştan bu yana taht kavgasina giren ikisi

  • @tabasmakeover
    @tabasmakeover 11 месяцев назад

    They both 🥰❤️

  • @HafsCubicle8794
    @HafsCubicle8794 2 года назад +3

    The public never dare lay a finger on hurrem when a bad rumor spreads about her killing mustapha but they dare do that to hurrem at the end

  • @Pasa-Kim_the_weirdo
    @Pasa-Kim_the_weirdo 8 месяцев назад

    go girl!

  • @Danielle-wy3bn
    @Danielle-wy3bn 2 года назад +62

    And they both failed to follow thru on their threats.

    • @mubassharnadeem9677
      @mubassharnadeem9677 2 года назад +5

      Yeah true but look at what they have done in the past they just passed away and thats in Allah’s hands

    • @nuzhatafrin8834
      @nuzhatafrin8834 2 года назад

      Haha true 🤣🤣

    • @thealchemist2869
      @thealchemist2869 Год назад +1

      Hurrem should have sent Rustam and Zal after Nurbanu. Problem solved 😂

  • @aimenafzal6512
    @aimenafzal6512 2 месяца назад

    The power that sultana kosem hold> everyone can just dream about it but could achieve it
    The Real Sultana Kosem Sultana ❤

  • @skhimelgamar4932
    @skhimelgamar4932 2 года назад +8

    কোসেম সুলতান সুলতানাদের সুলতানা

  • @kenna163
    @kenna163 10 месяцев назад

    Vahide can play scary so well. Chills

  • @divabeyzanurengin773
    @divabeyzanurengin773 2 года назад +3

    Hürrem hayatta kalsaydı Nurbanu yu çıktığı yerden indirirdi kesin

    • @divabeyzanurengin773
      @divabeyzanurengin773 2 года назад

      Bide hurrem le Nurbanu ölmeden diziye göre söylüyorum tartismışlardı öldürülmesi emrinide vermişti hurrem o hastalığı yenip iyileşseydi Nurbanu hayatta kalmazdı gibime geliyor

  • @Dipty-b8h
    @Dipty-b8h 7 месяцев назад +1

    Most powerfull sultana kosem sultan❤❤

  • @thepsychoticempress03
    @thepsychoticempress03 2 года назад +7

    And then they destroyed the mother-in-laws.

    • @hanzalamunir2140
      @hanzalamunir2140 2 года назад

      Hurrem died of illness 🙄

    • @eurech
      @eurech 2 года назад

      Nurbanu did not destroy Hurrem at all, she had no power against Hurrem.

    • @katleyaansok
      @katleyaansok 2 года назад

      nurbano don't have power, even after hurrem died. Hurrem's daughter Mihrimah have more power than nurbano during selim reign.

  • @mushtariy7382
    @mushtariy7382 2 месяца назад +1

    Kosem❤

  • @bigcats4352
    @bigcats4352 2 года назад +8

    In reality Hurrem sultan is loved Son so much....
    Kusem sultan is greedy of power and killed own son all of die because of death once Powerful Sultan Murad Han told you are sick women you danger of I sorry my english not right sorry.......... You understand Sultan Suliaman killed Mustafa and declined the Empire Kusem sultan killed Sultan Murad and sick empire
    My opinion Sehazade Mustafa chance a overthrow his father but his love can't and loyalty
    Same Sultan Murad so much his Mother and love can't kill that is his Mother poision him and killed and Sultan Murad know his mother poision him but he love his mother.......

    • @ajlee4136
      @ajlee4136 2 года назад +1

      Kosem didn't killed any of her children....

    • @larydrowned2890
      @larydrowned2890 2 года назад +1

      But what do you say my god! What kind of stupid things are those? 😐
      Kösem sultan didn't kill Sultan Murad, he died because of alcohol.
      About Ibrahim, he was crazy and it was better that he was executed and buried like a sultan than that he was murdered in a humiliating way like Sultan Osman.
      Besides, Suleiman killed two of his sons, but no one says anything, right? He was a sultan and had to think as a sultan rather than as a father. Sultana Kösem was a leader and regent and she should think as such, when an entire people and an Empire depends on you, you cannot think with your heart, but with your head and that is what Kösem did, she thought of what was best for the Empire, as well as the other sultans who also did it..

    • @bigcats4352
      @bigcats4352 2 года назад

      @@larydrowned2890 bro your thought is general like Wikipedia in reality different one think you can't forget Sultan Suliaman kill his son decline the empire and kusem sultan kill all son and main ministers and change the system of throne.... You know sick empire because Ministers and janissary dictatorship Government what the hell is going on you argue me what go and full of research 😅 and argue me......

    • @larydrowned2890
      @larydrowned2890 2 года назад +1

      @@bigcats4352 I didn't say that, I said that Kösem is criticized for thinking about the Empire before her family, something that Suleiman did, but nobody reproaches him for anything.
      When you have power or are in power you always have to think about those people who depend on you, in this case it would be the people, one life (your child) in exchange for thousands of lives (the people)

    • @insidemyeyes6625
      @insidemyeyes6625 2 года назад

      @@larydrowned2890 killing her own sons for whatever reasons doesn't make her wow and impresive or powerful plus you can't compare Suliman with kösem in killing their sons Suliman was the emperor kösem was not and she's not ottomic blood like Suliman plus a mother would never be like the father the mother does everything to protect her child like what Hürrem did not killing them to keep ruling for herself despite the fact that Murad is the one who deserves and Murad wasn't drinking like you said he was so powerful and has the right of ruling not his mom who killed her children because she was thirst to take something wasn't her right

  • @efu1111
    @efu1111 3 месяца назад

    İclerinde en güçlüsü turhandı.
    Hurremin suleymani kosemin ahmeti vardi. Bircok hatalari gormezden gelindi. Turhan ise onca kadin arasından kendini var etti ve mücadelesini kazandı 💙

  • @Learni_fy
    @Learni_fy 18 дней назад +1

    The fact is that Hurrem was never defeated by Nurbanu but Kosem was defeated by Turhan she killed her

  • @JESULICH
    @JESULICH 9 месяцев назад +1

    hurrem won because no one can destroy her, she died bcs of an illness but turhan won against kosem, that's why hurrem paved the way for the other sultans, she's the most powerful one!

  • @ozlemsahin7346
    @ozlemsahin7346 Год назад +1

    Hürrem Sultan 💅 kössem Sultan 💅

  • @adnanhaan1581
    @adnanhaan1581 2 месяца назад

    Both sultans Hurrem and kosem are legend

  • @MishaMichaelshvili-vh9qh
    @MishaMichaelshvili-vh9qh 10 месяцев назад

    Different kusem killed by thurhan sultan power both kusem and hurrem was unstoppable by them thinkable ....

  • @MrMairaj-ow5wg
    @MrMairaj-ow5wg 24 дня назад

    Kosëm Sultan was really powerful

  • @masudarahman6389
    @masudarahman6389 5 месяцев назад

    Hurrem was the real queen in every aspect❤

  • @mahsinmoon712
    @mahsinmoon712 Год назад

    You are my favourite editor💝

  • @elizabethveron5900
    @elizabethveron5900 17 часов назад

    Hurrem ❤

  • @sodikovadilnoza8840
    @sodikovadilnoza8840 2 месяца назад

    Hurram sultonning ogohlantirishi zo'r chiqqan ekan! Aniq va lo'nda! Nigohlari ham ishonarli! Haqiqiy qat'iyatli ayolning ogohlantirishi!!!! Haqiqiy qirolichalarga xos!

  • @scarecrow4856
    @scarecrow4856 Год назад +1