Lightstrike Pro 2.0: Did the Boston 12 Move in the Right Direction?

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  • Опубликовано: 19 ноя 2024

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  • @BassTonix
    @BassTonix 9 месяцев назад +11

    Never ran in the Boston 9, but the 12 is the best that I’ve experienced so far. Completely agree about the upper and lack of heel padding, those were my biggest issues with the shoe.
    Short, succinct review, gotta love it!

  • @andrewgill25
    @andrewgill25 8 месяцев назад +17

    With any Boston shoe you can routinely get them for 50% off as close as a couple weeks post launch - this is a great shoe for the bigger folks as at 250lbs I’ve found it to be my favorite daily trainer

    • @SpencerReek
      @SpencerReek 8 месяцев назад +3

      I definitely agree with this. I am 255, and it is currently my favorite shoes to run in. I am really want to try the Rebel V4.

    • @SKILLZ707
      @SKILLZ707 8 месяцев назад

      Got my pair at an Adidas outlet for $80. I'm 185lbs and love them. They are a bit firm but nothing crazy, and after about 30-50mi, you can definitely feel them soften up.

    • @kevinfranz4369
      @kevinfranz4369 8 месяцев назад +1

      the Boston is burly runner approved 🫡🫡

    • @pbnotj1
      @pbnotj1 8 месяцев назад +1

      6’1 “ 215 lbs and love these , appreciated that they are not too soft and don’t bottom out like softer foams

    • @vanvihung8982
      @vanvihung8982 8 месяцев назад

      Shoes prices are not realizable anymore, the real price always 50% off, the extra are the cost to get to try on before everyone

  • @mdicello1823
    @mdicello1823 8 месяцев назад +7

    I LOVE the Boston 12. My fav road shoe easily. I remember basing all of my shoe choices off Seth's opinion. Glad I ventured further!!! Thanks for the review as always.

  • @loganharder6144
    @loganharder6144 8 месяцев назад +8

    It definitely softens up after 30 miles. I’d say it’s super versatile, I think it’s sweet spot is moderate but I have also done some 200m strides in them and they feel pretty good actually at paces faster than mile pace. If you want to save money and are interested in building a shoe rotation this is a good one to start with

    • @ChristopherSandefur
      @ChristopherSandefur 8 месяцев назад +1

      I agree. It was not a great experience the first 10 miles or so. Also, it feels great under 6:00 pace. I actually prefer the geometry of the Boston 12 over the Pros. I put in over 400 miles and was responsive until this point. Wide toe box and fit true to size for my size 10.

  • @nicolaasvanwyk8586
    @nicolaasvanwyk8586 8 месяцев назад +4

    Im about 400km into a pair, definitely needs about 30 - 50km to break in completely. No issues with fit and lockdown on my med to narrow width feet. I find it quite a versatile shoe ito paces, and find it easy to lock into any speed except e.g sprinting. I think its an ideal faster paced trainer/racer for a heavier runner. Durability is top notch, and the ride still feels really good after the distance Ive clocked.

  • @leonchristensen1765
    @leonchristensen1765 8 месяцев назад +2

    Pegasus turbo 2s were 🔥. Would love to find them in the back of my cupboard right now.

  • @richardrankin7488
    @richardrankin7488 8 месяцев назад

    More than 5 years. I started watching when I retired: January, 2019. Time races by when you are having fun.

  • @angelmatos9143
    @angelmatos9143 8 месяцев назад +2

    “That feeling after a run is one of the greatest you can have” - Larry Bird on his passion for running

  • @sondjata
    @sondjata 8 месяцев назад

    1) Glad to see you back
    2) My intro to and favorite was the Boston 8. I have the 10 and have taken it 240 miles. I suppose with the move to high stacks I can forget about a return to 8.

  • @Bradsworld2
    @Bradsworld2 8 месяцев назад +2

    I wish I had bought 4 pair of the Saucony Endorphin Speed 1. I loved that shoe.

  • @johanskjlberg2636
    @johanskjlberg2636 8 месяцев назад +1

    QD: Saucony Kinvara 11! I loved them, and was so dissapointed with the changes they made for the K12s

  • @eulogyforadream
    @eulogyforadream 8 месяцев назад +3

    The Adios 6 and 7 reminds me a lot of the Boston 9.

    • @hfurbano
      @hfurbano 8 месяцев назад

      The Adios 8 is even better than Boston 9 for me!

    • @eulogyforadream
      @eulogyforadream 8 месяцев назад

      @@hfurbano The Adios 6, 7 and 8 are all underrated. Adidas didn't fix what wasn't broken. The V9 is going to be very different. I think it's going to be track legal.

  • @seanduffy2944
    @seanduffy2944 9 месяцев назад +1

    I agree with Anne on the Nike Terra TC. It has been @ forty years (before you were born Seth) since it came out, but it was my favorite shoe of all-time. It is crazy that Nike hasn’t tried to recreate or reintroduce. The Pegasus came out around the same time, but I wish we were on the TerraTC 40.

  • @SoundScoutOne
    @SoundScoutOne 8 месяцев назад +1

    The Boston 12 have become my favourite daily trainer in 2023 and on top of that Adidas regularly has sales on where these shoes can be picked up for 30%, 40% and sometimes even 50% off. I agree that for a proper long run I also go with the Triumph. PS: I just retired my pair of Rebel V2 😢

  • @davidmcquade4743
    @davidmcquade4743 8 месяцев назад +2

    Hi Seth - you did like the heel counter on the Adizero SL... Adizero SL may be my bread and butter shoe. I've ran in the SL and Boston 12. SL wins for me with the better fit, lighter weight, and it can easily pick up the pace.And no rods/plate. Plus, the price point is great.

  • @derekgamblin
    @derekgamblin 8 месяцев назад

    Best shoe I have ever had, so good I got two pair. Helped when i picked them up for £82/$104 a pair

  • @ChristieEngelbrecht
    @ChristieEngelbrecht 8 месяцев назад +1

    Epic list: Alphafly 1 (racing), NB Fuelcell TC (long run). Nike Dragonfly is another potential candidate.

  • @snowwalker9999
    @snowwalker9999 8 месяцев назад +1

    QD: Rebel V3. I can still find them but I’m kicking myself for not getting them a few months ago when I could find the color way I wanted for really cheap. I’m really liking the Novablast 3 and the Cloudsurfer too. Both are on sale and in might get a couple of those too. I could get Noosa tri 14 really cheap. They felt light and comfortable but I can’t get too crazy right now.

  • @gtromble
    @gtromble 8 месяцев назад +2

    Hi Seth - at about 6:30 you have an outsole card giving it a score of 9, but in your overall summary table you have the outsole as a 6.

  • @Cellularsurfer
    @Cellularsurfer 8 месяцев назад

    Running my 2nd Boston marathon in April. V12 I had to donate as the upper was trash. Poor lockdown. Even tried new laces.

  • @cristinaarceo9136
    @cristinaarceo9136 8 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you Seth fir your review of this shoe. Your review was on point 'cause I feel the same way too. The heel counter feels so different for me. But it make me run in a specific way which is to land on mid to forefoot so I'm on my toes all the time.😅 Onward and upward DGR!

  • @RobertHarridge
    @RobertHarridge 8 месяцев назад +4

    I own the 12, and I find it gets better the longer you run in it. I really do enjoy this shoe for just about everything. That being said, the Puma Deviate Nitro 2 is better. The upper is much more comfortable with a better lockdown. Puma Nitro Elite foam and regular Nitro foam with the Puma PWRPLATE. PumaGrip outsole rubber is amazing. For a daily trainer with some pep, I’d pick the Puma over the Adidas, especially at the same price point.

    • @CriticalThinker02
      @CriticalThinker02 8 месяцев назад +1

      Are the Puma DN2 midsoles softer?

    • @SofaKingA
      @SofaKingA 6 месяцев назад

      I was about to buy the B12. I have the Puma DN2 coming in the mail tomorrow. Glad I saw this post I'll hold off on the Bostons!

    • @CriticalThinker02
      @CriticalThinker02 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@SofaKingA I just ran a marathon yesterday in the DN2’s. They might not have quite enough cushion under foot for some for that distance, but they do for me. Highly recommend this shoe.

    • @SofaKingA
      @SofaKingA 6 месяцев назад

      @@CriticalThinker02 That's great to hear! My biggest concern is if the DN2 is fun to run in. I know it has a plate but the shoe doesn't seem to have an aggressive rocker like the Boston or Speeds. I know it has rave reviews though.

    • @CriticalThinker02
      @CriticalThinker02 6 месяцев назад

      @@SofaKingA They are fun to run in… the plate and foam provide some bounce & propulsion, but nothing extreme. And yes the toe rocker is nowhere as aggressive as the B12’s (which I hate personally). They’re also relatively lightweight and very stable. And you can find them on sale, which you may have already!

  • @cevasbinghost
    @cevasbinghost 8 месяцев назад +1

    QOD: I wish I had stockpiled Mach 4s, I bought them thanks to you Seth and oh my god they're still my all time favorite shoes, durability would be the only issue but man they were just perfect.
    Also I got a pair of Boston 12 a couple months ago and even though I think they are fine they're nothing alike to the Boston 9s or the Adios 5 that are my favorite adidas shoes

  • @trilife93
    @trilife93 8 месяцев назад +1

    QD: or dream rotation if you will.
    •Nike Zoom Peg Turbo 2 (tempo)
    •Saucony Kinvara 11 (daily)
    •Nike A.F v1 (race)
    •hoka speedgoat (mountain)
    •undecided long run shoe
    •undecided trail run shoe

  • @dasdWARf
    @dasdWARf 8 месяцев назад +4

    Wish I had stockpiled endo speed 2's.

    • @backyard1015
      @backyard1015 8 месяцев назад

      I agree 100%! I hate it when they take my shoe of the year and totally destroy the positive aspects of a shoe! The foam in the 3s is unpredictable and unstable. The heel counter is way too harsh! Saucony has been dropped from my shoe rotation. I switched to Asics. Saucony lost a customer while Asics gained one!

  • @christianschobinger1131
    @christianschobinger1131 8 месяцев назад +1

    I love the Boston 9 as well 😊 my treasure are my 6 pairs of the Alphafly 1, best shoes ever by far 🎉

  • @themanorruns
    @themanorruns 8 месяцев назад

    I’m racing in Boston!! The BAA 5k will be week 52 of running a 5k every week for a year 🙌🏻

  • @groupsimon6501
    @groupsimon6501 8 месяцев назад +1

    QD: definitely the Mach 4 or 5, and Novablast…love them 😊

  • @daviddiazlife
    @daviddiazlife 8 месяцев назад

    Seth, you give amazing advice!! We regret not buying more of the Saucony Endorphine line. From Your advice We got great deals! ❤❤❤Thanks!

  • @annestrock4917
    @annestrock4917 9 месяцев назад +6

    Wait isn't that a stockpile of shoes in the background?!😂 I went through 4 pairs of the Boston 9 ! It was really the shoe to do it all! Currently on my 3rd pair of Rebel v2 and Mach 4s and 2nd pair of Asics Noosa tri 14s.( I wish I still had a pair of Nike Terra tc's and Nike Zoom Elite v4's) .

  • @franciscomachado8990
    @franciscomachado8990 8 месяцев назад

    mix of fast / daily / long, did all with it and works good in all those 3 but i would use for for fast or long, they were quite good in a 30km training for the marathon at marathon speed

  • @ScottC79
    @ScottC79 8 месяцев назад

    I do think the Boston 12 is a little overhyped, so appreciate the honest review. The only thing I would add is that it probably took me about 50 miles to break them in. They’re still firm, but much more enjoyable now. I’m not sure I’ve ever had a shoe with that kind of break-in mileage. I also find them to be best around the 7ish min/mile pace, which is about my half marathon pace. So for me they’re not great for easy/daily training runs +/- 9 min/mile. I weigh about 160 if that helps.

  • @Enoch-Root
    @Enoch-Root 8 месяцев назад

    Got a second pair of Boston 12s yesterday. This time went down half a size. Find that the fit is now perfect, before it was just a little loose. Really like this shoes, used the first pair for 1025km. The Boston 11s though were awful and injured me, especially due to the narrow fit and the rigid heel counter.

  • @sahacking
    @sahacking 8 месяцев назад

    My two favorite daily trainers in the past 10 years were the Adidas Supernova Glide (Boost midsoles) and the Hoka Huaka. I had three pairs of the Supernova Glide, and four pairs of the Huaka. Also, you're right about the first Asics Novablast--I wish I had a new pair of those right now because the 2 and 3 (and I assume the 4) have moved further and further away from the original goodness.

  • @kuriosites
    @kuriosites 8 месяцев назад +1

    Very helpful. I'm 130 lbs. soaking wet and I've hesitated about the Boston because of the weight. I'm wondering if the Endorphin Speed or the upcoming Topo Specter 2 might work better for me because I'm sensitive to weight.

  • @JohanSmalls
    @JohanSmalls 8 месяцев назад

    The 3 shoes I stocked up in my life: Nike Epic React 1, Hoka Mach 4 and now Asics Noosa 14

  • @StevenMoreno-d1m
    @StevenMoreno-d1m 8 месяцев назад +1

    hahahaha I replayed what you said about stock piling a great shoe when you have the chance to my lovely wife so she stops telling people I am crazy for buying 3 pairs of Mach 4. After 400km in the first (Coral) pair I loooooved them so much I went out and got another 2 pairs in different colour ways and am still running in the last pair now (Teal). My shoes usually hit 1000km of treadmill.

  • @CriticalThinker02
    @CriticalThinker02 8 месяцев назад +2

    I’m struggling a bit with these shoes… bought them to train for my first marathon in May (also to run the race in), but so far they’ve been pretty harsh on my legs. Always feel beat up afterwards. I have 50 miles in them now. Keep wondering, am I doing something wrong in these shoes?

  • @BrendanWise-ze6ih
    @BrendanWise-ze6ih 8 месяцев назад +3

    Maybe because I’m a little bigger (5’8 175 shoe size 9) but I will take the Boston 12 over the 9 all day everyday. It’s better for me for daily, tempo, long run and even to race .

    • @thomasbraun6603
      @thomasbraun6603 8 месяцев назад +1

      I was thinking the same thing. I'm the same build, and it feels great. Similar to the Endorphin Speed line.

    • @BrendanWise-ze6ih
      @BrendanWise-ze6ih 8 месяцев назад

      @@thomasbraun6603 super excited to try out the Speed 4. Between the Boston 12 and Speed 4 I can get in all my marathon training

  • @Loc1792
    @Loc1792 8 месяцев назад +1

    Bought the B12 and loved them bought the Superblast for long runs and it feels heavier and just ok ( lighter on paper though ) Sad cause I could have bought 2 B12 plus saved a little instead of the superblast.

  • @MojoShock
    @MojoShock 8 месяцев назад +1

    Waiting for these Adidas shoe reviews to end, more New Balance and Saucony 🙏 😊

  • @Scotty.Lincoln
    @Scotty.Lincoln 8 месяцев назад +1

    I really liked the ride of the Boston 12 but for some reason the shape of the upper just didn’t get along with my foot shape. Adios pro 3 fits perfect but the Boston just fit oddly and had some discomfort.

  • @ianwarner1429
    @ianwarner1429 8 месяцев назад +2

    Freedom 4 from Saucony. I just ordered my 5th pair. They fit like moccasins on my feet. Lower stack, great feel and lightweight. I have over 600 miles on each pair. 4mm drop works for me and I use them for steasy runs and going to the store. 80 bucks Canadian is unbelievable too!🇨🇦

  • @Mr-SRG
    @Mr-SRG 8 месяцев назад

    QOD Stockpile: Saucony Speed 2. So quick and lasted 400+ miles!

  • @AlistairEldred
    @AlistairEldred 8 месяцев назад

    I still have my 9 and run in it every now and then to reminisce. The upper and tongue are probably my favourite in any shoe ever. The grip is fantastic but midsole is a bit flat; whack a modern foam in there and it would be a thing of beauty.

  • @seamusmcsweeney55
    @seamusmcsweeney55 8 месяцев назад

    Definitely should have stocked up on Rebel V2

  • @Ben-yw8be
    @Ben-yw8be 3 месяца назад

    I wouldn’t use it for a tempo run. Maybe steady to marathon and half marathon pace runs. A bit heavy for that. The Adios 8 is a great tempo shoe.

  • @MINIMALmtb
    @MINIMALmtb 8 месяцев назад

    I found the heel counter very rigid and it dug into my heel after only a few km's. Sad because everything else on the show felt great but I ended up selling them. I know lots of people loved these so not sure if my pair was faulty or if they just didnt work for my foot shape.

  • @mattpotts6649
    @mattpotts6649 8 месяцев назад

    For sure these need 40-50k breaking in. Mine came alive after 40k and they feel amazing now

  • @Wildbrooker4304
    @Wildbrooker4304 8 месяцев назад +1

    Kicking myself I didn’t stock pile the Nike zoom fly 2 flyknit

  • @fergusdenoon1255
    @fergusdenoon1255 8 месяцев назад

    Just one point and one question,
    Point: the 10/11 were very good, the upper was awesome, the midsole foams were great, the outsole was great... ... it having a carbon plate directly under your heal with no padding above it, made it the worst shoe ever.
    Q: Does the 12 have a hard plate directly under your heal with no padding above it?

  • @ronrunsworld
    @ronrunsworld 8 месяцев назад +1

    I got them for 47$ (Black Friday), so no complains about the price. This shoe sometimes feel like a racer and sometimes like a brick (maybe on a colder days?) I am not sure on what is going on there!!

  • @justinjordaens7864
    @justinjordaens7864 8 месяцев назад

    QOD: The Asics Novablast 2, beautiful shoe.

  • @TrailrunnerTroy
    @TrailrunnerTroy 8 месяцев назад

    Solid trainer for 5 to 15 mile training runs up to tempo pace. I like a little heaviness for distance training ;-)

  • @PabloPerez-nd7se
    @PabloPerez-nd7se 4 месяца назад

    Wish I had five pairs of Triumph 20s or Endorphin Speed 2s

  • @LHNguyens
    @LHNguyens 8 месяцев назад

    Just got them and PB my 5k by 2 minutes with a full blader 😂 beast of a shoe

  • @reginaldgonzales
    @reginaldgonzales 8 месяцев назад +1

    Can you review hyperion max?

  • @marceloamador92024
    @marceloamador92024 8 месяцев назад

    Asics novablast and the first asics FFBlast shoes take the insoles and insert them into say boston 11s and will make boston 11 feel like a super shoe

  • @keithc1264
    @keithc1264 8 месяцев назад +1

    QD: Altra Torin 4.5 Plush

  • @ahilleastzimas475
    @ahilleastzimas475 8 месяцев назад

    lovit i pick it up in good discount about 110

  • @cmo3
    @cmo3 8 месяцев назад +1

    Seth is a tough grader. 6.6 out of 10 is a borderline failing grade for a shoe that most people say is very good. Everyone is entitled to their opinions.

    • @FatUglySadMan
      @FatUglySadMan 8 месяцев назад

      His reviews are weird, sorry !

  • @Christellezphoto
    @Christellezphoto 8 месяцев назад

    QOD: Endorphin Speed 1, Novablast 1

  • @jacosteyn4095
    @jacosteyn4095 8 месяцев назад

    Did I hear you say….. it’s not a tempo shoe…. Nor a long run shoe…. Or easy day?? So what is it good for then?

    • @klipk7296
      @klipk7296 8 месяцев назад +1

      lol I was wondering about this. I actually agree, but it's funny how the review has such a positive tone despite saying it's basically suitable for nothing

    • @jacosteyn4095
      @jacosteyn4095 8 месяцев назад

      @@klipk7296 watched it again…. And I am concluding that it’s a poor review video….
      He states basically it’s a daily trainer that is good for nothing.

  • @cesarzoghbi4695
    @cesarzoghbi4695 8 месяцев назад

    Why price 150$ is high? And for other running shoes not??

  • @edwinpepito1498
    @edwinpepito1498 8 месяцев назад

    So glad i got it for 71usd 😊
    Edit: thanks Adidas for sending me a 50% off discount

  • @johnward4299
    @johnward4299 8 месяцев назад

    I'm not crazy about the energy rods. In my experience, kind of forcing one to run in a particular way.

  • @cdigdawg
    @cdigdawg 8 месяцев назад

    QoD: Mach 4. I'm on my last pair now, and I'm getting sad.

  • @ADyess086
    @ADyess086 8 месяцев назад

    Love mine

  • @tomba343
    @tomba343 8 месяцев назад

    QD: Novablast 3 and Saucony Endorphin Pro 3. From what I heard in latest shoe reviews, the Endorphin Pro 4 is less aggressive and more a training shoe than a racer. Having a rather wide (flat) midfoot, not all super shoes suit me, but the Endorphin Pros and Speeds do. And the EP3 is fast, stable and fun at the same time, so that's my answer of the QD.

  • @aristodiga82
    @aristodiga82 8 месяцев назад +2

    harsh score for the price point there. It's not cheap, obviously, but definitely there are more overpriced shoes out there...

  • @cesarzoghbi4695
    @cesarzoghbi4695 8 месяцев назад

    The Boston 12 is listed as one of the best shoes for fast training in late 2023 and early 2024 by almost all youtubers on the internet. You are one of the few who don't

    • @jean-phil
      @jean-phil 8 месяцев назад

      fordy runs and eddbud likes it but other reviewers, not that much ... kofuzi and doctorsofrunning for example

  • @frankjacobsen6848
    @frankjacobsen6848 8 месяцев назад

    Boston👍🏃🏻‍♂️🇳🇴

  • @timtrenholm3698
    @timtrenholm3698 8 месяцев назад

    If they connected those inner heel collar padding strips, it would probably fix most of the heel lockdown problems people have. The other being, to soften the heel cups just a bit, so even if people have a bit of heel lift their heels aren't grinding against a hard rigid cup. Love the midsole/outsole for uptempo stuff, but not for recovery or pure long runs. Just a bit too firm.

  • @ΓεώργιοςΓαλανάκης-ν5ω
    @ΓεώργιοςΓαλανάκης-ν5ω 6 месяцев назад

    Awful review imo. The outsole is at least 8/10, the midsole is top, the price tends to be better than Deviate Nitro's 2 and Saucony Speed 3, the energy return is more than decent

  • @runcheatthereaper9016
    @runcheatthereaper9016 8 месяцев назад

    Endorphine Speed 1& 2 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @tishamonroe7418
    @tishamonroe7418 9 месяцев назад

    not my choice for shoe

  • @piotrswiecicki9239
    @piotrswiecicki9239 6 месяцев назад

    Did you get these glasses from your MAMA ?

  • @kikinomad
    @kikinomad 8 месяцев назад +2

    I regret buying this shoe. It's just too heavy feeling and the ride is too firm for me. I've tried breaking it in, but it's the least favorite of my shoes and the one I never want to put on. I got it hugely discounted, but still regret it. Just not the shoe for me.

    • @klipk7296
      @klipk7296 8 месяцев назад +1

      same, feels like strapping wooden planks super tightly to my feet

  • @trainwellracewell
    @trainwellracewell 8 месяцев назад

    It’s a shame Adidas doesn’t try to make this shoe live up to its Boston name. The Boston Marathon is one of the pinnacle races worldwide. If I’m going to name a shoe after a race of that magnitude, it better be of the highest quality and competitive with any other shoe brand on the market. Adidas just comes off as mediocre and runners can smell it a mile away…or perhaps 26.2 miles away

  • @Mr-SRG
    @Mr-SRG 8 месяцев назад

    Boston 10 was the worst shoe that I ever tried... Straight back to Adidas

  • @michaeldominic2070
    @michaeldominic2070 8 месяцев назад

    I'll be at Boston!

  • @marcosgarcia7321
    @marcosgarcia7321 9 месяцев назад

    Good reviews