What do you mean you don't dodge roll into enemy attacks? maybe is because I was trained to do this by both Monster Hunter and the Soulsborne series but for real, if the attack is a dash you are 99.9% going to be hit if you dodge backwards, that doesn't sound like a bug but the attack working as intended, the dash itself is a good 10 meters long which probably means the hitbox will follow the character model as it travels meaning you will be safe by dodging into it or to the side.
-DT CD is bugged, its shorter than its should -DT Stab ICD is bugged its shorter than it should -Impossible to dodge a melee DT2 -Busted heals, make constant mistakes and get no punishment Awful design
The problem is that it's bad, Like the PvP in just about every other MMO. Theres just a small handfull of spec's that do well, and most of the classes don't have access to those spec'd that do well.
The Dodge really reminds me of Elden Ring where you have to dodge into many enemies otherwise you wind up finishing into the hit box of moves. Also found that while it will one shot you almost, lightning rod Weaver world okay into BS. Numerous projectile denial skills, a metric ton of cc that can come out very fast with reasonable burst. Not saying it does well, but it does okay especially as a plus one.
That's a good comparison! There aren't many skills like that in GW2. Dragon Slash - Boost is one of a small handful(?) of examples. LR is also a good pick! It's squishy though so if you don't play perfectly you could likely get two-shot by an unfortunate Dragon Trigger into Axe 2 as an example. I hope you enjoyed the video! Thanks for the support! :D
I've always wanted to see what ranger GS 5 (Hilt Bash) looks like when you don't have latency. If you're above ~200 it just slides you a bit and doesn't land.
The highest I've played on was around 140 on EU. It definitely felt like I had to predict what I wanted to interrupt more. It might help if the enemy is moving towards you or is in an animation lock leap towards you that they can't cancel. Even with 200 ping I feel like it would make it more reliable to land the skill. Hope that helps! Thanks for the support :)
Immobilize and condis are honestly big weaknesse's to the class.. He only has Shake it off for condi cleanse( unless if u take the rune for shout cleanse) which is also his only stun break. Also, it's not that effective against 2v1 scenarios becouse of the many CCS everyone has... U're gonna shake it off once, and then you're dead. It's still strong don't get me wrong, but the only problematic thing is the dragon slash hit box. other than that its... ok having 1 stack of stability when you're standing still , casting your signature and strongest move and basically the reason to play bladesworn, is not wierd.. others get stability for no reason at all. Catalyst is considered better duelist, and bladesworn rose up after the vindicator nerfs right? Also the Rise of tempest which happened thanks to the harbringers,makes Bladesworn a little worse cus suprisingly enough, bladesworn has.. more projectiles that he should. And let's not fool ourselfs... the reason why this class works is just... the good old shout mechanic , which is the only thing that warrior has going on for him at this point. No shouts, no party... Btw the class has no 25% movement speed from disc trait as well as 0 swiftness uptime unless u're playing warhorn . it's not THAT fast... Rangers and thiefs and willbenders and every roamer are x5 times faster, this spec is NOT good for roaming. it's a GOOD duelist which can also teamfight very well and those are more than enough to make the spec "Good", but u also mentioned roaming, which is not the case. it's NOT a good roamer.
Hey Akhs! Bladesworn can also go Peak Performance and Mending vs. heavier condi teams. Also Bladesworn became meta once Core Guards, Willbenders, and Harbingers shifted down the totem pole. As for the warhorn and shouts, most Bladesworns do run warhorn and soldier runes for the utility they provide. You are correct, Bladesworn is not a roamer but it has the mobility and damage to chase kills, decap, and take very favorable 2v1s when plussing fights. If a Bladesworn wanted to play like a roamer and run around the map to pick up kills, their kit can support that playstyle well. However, it is an exceptionally strong teamfighter and is good in sides as well. Bladesworn has way more mobility than an Untamed if that's what you were comparing it to (3x break step, 3x flicker step, 4s cd dragon slash - boost vs. 1 swoop and 900 range targeted port).
@@Shadowfall_TV you're making them all x3 cus of the ulti but in reality it doesn't really work like that.. does it? If you go peak performance and mending, you're sustain drops significantly right? And that's why warrior in general is "Healthy" as a class. Trade offs. Warrior actually has very heavy trade offs. You want to take warhorn? you loose the ridiculus damage of pistol, or the CC/block of shield. U want to take sword for mobility? u lose ridiculus axe damage. You want to take mending for condi? You loose a lot of sustain against power builds and ur duelist power against other GOOD bunker builds drops. The realistic mobility of the bladesworn btw, is just gunsaber 5 x2. if u want to use ulti to use it a third time.. be my guest. If you're in combat and u have flow, u can also use dragon slash which is REALLY good. btw, most bladesworns indeed run soldier rune for the condi clear, but not warhorn. Most bladesworn will go axe/pistol in my experience since it's better for duels and most bladesworn choose to do the duelist role. If u want to do teamfights, warhorn gets better ofc. But in my experience most people do run pistol off hand. Anyway my point is that you're overglorifying bladesworn.. and you're overgloryfing mechanics like the stability on a standing still cast-time skill, while other classes get stability by farting. He literally used to have protection on that trait and it was garbage cus u could just interupt him easy. You're overgloryfing his tool kit by making it sound like he has everything x3.. i know it's in theory correct, but NOONE ever is gonna use the ulti to get an extra gunsaber 5 to roam faster... it's an exaggeration and again, an overgloryfication based on theory and not practice. I am not saying it's not strong right now, it's obviously quite strong, but you're making it sound like... WOW, you're making basic stuff, sound like... omegalul broken. The only REALLY broken thing is the dragon slash hit box...and u showed in the video it has something like... 5-7 different hitboxes.. and 1 dodge can't dodge all of them. Which is actually insane. But other than that i don't see any issue. The class is getting carried by the good old shout mechanics which got enhanced by the ulti... There have been A LOT better duelists in the past and INSANLY better team fighters in the past. And for the roamers.. not even gonna bother.
@@akhsdenlew1861 the problem with this trash design is how brain dead it is. Can pick up it super fast and melt people. It wins games at low level with no effort. Just compare it to untamed or herald in terms of effort and key presses to execute combos. Don't even start with healing numbers also.
@@riananne3191 untamed is unsually hard actually. let' compare it with the new engineer wilbender or harbringer. i melted people without knowing what i was doing with harbringer
So I play scepter freshair weaver. I think my proudest pvp moment was when I stacked up a few offensive buffs from eternal colosseum, got 25 stacks of might from a teammate and then absolutely nuked a full health bladesworn for 30k damage. After one-shotting them them they actually complained about me playing a broken build :p
1:08 is not a bug, that's intended game play! In the clip you dodged back in the direction of the AoE; additionally, the range of the skill is 750 units with AoE equal to the graphics of the circle spin, so of course you are going to get hit. If you go frame by frame, you can see that the circle spin animation ends just as you get hit; the AoE range is very close to you as it ends. If you don't want to get hit, then dodge to the SIDES or FORWARD! During beta testing I played BS and this look normal to me and to many other warrior players. Are people going to complain about this? Lots of other classes have so many skills that hit you at the end of your dodge roll. Just to name a few: Rapid fire (ranger) Smoke assault (Soul beast) Unrelenting assault (Revenant) If you compare bladesworn dragon slash to smoke assault or Unrelenting assault , the smoke assault and Unrelenting assault TRACK YOU. In other words, you are going to get hit yes or yes! The warrior's dragon slash is not even close to these skills as you can easily dodge it to the sides or by simply dodging forward. But of course if you dodge back then you dodge in the direction of motion of the dragon slash and you are going to get hit at the end! People crying about this is what makes Anet nerf warrior over and over again. I mean, can't you just dodge to the sides? Dragon slash does not even track you like smoke assault and Unrelenting assault or many of the other skills in the game that track you and hit you at the end of your dodge roll. I think this is a learn to play issue! Its like trying to dodge a meteor shower but instead of dodging out of it, you dodge towards the meteor shower and fall just a few units near the AoE field. You should have dodge out and not in the direction of the AoE! Or even better explained by using the dragon banner skill called "Dragon's Breath" which is a movable AoE; if you dodge in the direction of the AoE, you will end up in the AoE of the skill and your dodge will be useless! You don't dodge in the direction of AoE fields, you dodge OUT of them! So, again, this is a learn to play issue and not a warrior issue! Try to visualize dragon slash as an AoE that creates lava in a straight line measuring 750 units long and about 350 units wide. YOU MUST NOT STAY WITHIN THIS AREA! YOU MUST NOT DODGE BACK AND FALL IN THE AOE FIELD. Simply dodge to the side or dodge forward since the AoE quickly dissipates.
Hey Albert! When I said "bug" I was referring to the fact that quickness and slow do not affect the cast speed of Dragon Trigger skills. The hitbox is massive for sure. I mentioned in the video that the counterplay is to dodge in any direction except for directly away from the Bladesworn.
There's a complete opposite situation going on with Vindicator where it's dodge mechanic can be glitched in PvE and PvP, you can be taken out of it with walls or others CCs at certain frames, and in some cases, you can still be hit or be applied with conditions while in your dodge frames too. It kinda shocks me how Anet thought nerfing Vindicator in PvP was such a good idea when it's had this exact issue since launch, and probably since the beta events too.
@@blackwing1996 That isn't intentional, it's quite clearly since your character mode is supposed to be in the air but if someone places down a wall, suddenly you're on the ground knocked back which ruins the entire point of the dodge anyway.
I find it hard to carry in ranked pvp, most people dont care about their rating in ranked, and going afk if first teamfight is lost. Its very rare getting a 400-400 point game where both teams are doing well I think.
Since Tactics and Strength is taken there's no warrior's sprint which means only 2 condi cleanse for immobilize on 75 second CDs and no other way to remove it. Gunblade also has insanely long CDs. Survive gunblade burst then immob spam and you will win.
Great video, and great production quality. Really enjoying your content my dude, glad to see you on YT as I'm EU so don't get to catch your streams as often as I'd like. Noticed this hard when I played a near perfect matchup but lost because of a marginally late dodge.... fun game design :') A cool mini series would be similar things for meta builds. e.g. "How to fight a Catalyst/Specter/Untamed/Tempest" outlining key skills/damage outputs to avoid and counter for each
Hey Psy! Thank you!! I'm happy you're enjoying the content. And yeah haha the dragon triggers are really messing people up in PvP. I'll add that series idea to the list! Thanks for the suggestion and the support :D
Hey David! I've spent a lot of time on both, GW2 is a lot better imo. Equalized gear, alt friendly, animation based, stunbreaks, great rewards, etc. BDO has none of that. Animations are cool in BDO but a lot of it isn't very reactive to avoid imo. Lot of it is just CC -> oneshot. Hope that helps!
I am not a blade player in pvpbut i think the bigger problem of the game is how unbalanced this is , and most condi classes are way way too busted in nodes , atleast blade have to run away. and as of pvp I do think that warrior is the most balanced class of all of them , with close to zero bullshit. The actually need skills instead of using teleport to face and burst in secs , like untamed , slb , rev or guardian or condi bursting like harb or spector.
I agree condi is just ridic because almost every condi build gets free vitality without losing damage and not every class has more than one reliable way to deal with condis and there's the issue of some classes having much stronger core kits than others.... making their classes just strong in general irregardless of spec choice really don't think bsworn is the issue tho cause meta condi builds still rip them up yes they're insanely unkillable to power builds but one or two spectres or harbis? bye bye bsworn lol that isn't mentioning the fact that certain classes have enough projectile hate, block (only dslash pierces block) and sustain just baked in and a lot of bsworn's damage disappears.
Yeah warrior has historically had very good telegraphs for their skills. Ranger is similar in that regard! Thankfully it is a power meta at the moment and condi classes aren't at the forefront.
I posted about the dragon-slash boost issue on the forums but ppl were like "dodge into it 4-head" as if that's an established thing to need to do for skills in this game. Thanks for this video. PvP is the worst it's ever been imo if you aren't playing meta. My life is much improved after quitting it.
Haha yeah the hitbox is massive and lasts insanely long. It's crazy that I dodged the instant the flash went off but I still got hit by the end of the dash even though the Bladesworn was completely off-screen. I'm glad you enjoyed the video! Thanks for the support Planet! If you ever decide to give it another shot come say hi on the livestreams! :D
shoutsworn has been my favorite spec and it needs some changes. I wonder if placing a cast time on shouts would help balance the class. It is honestly kind of ridiculous that you can fire off three shouts before even taking a breathe (e.g. the cast time before the abilities on war horn). In addition, interrupting a shout should put a short cooldown on all other shouts. What are your thoughts, blindside?
Unfortunately Bladesworn already feels clunky to play. I think a cast time on shouts would make it feel worse. However, "On My Mark!" being dodgeable would be a good start!
Nothing change for warrior for few last balance patches. Before when Dikbender was op i saw BS few times for all season. Now I saw it nearly in every match. So nothing change for warrior, just wilbender get nerf. Now bs, herald, and catalyst are in meta.
Hey Lighting! They recently reworked warhorn 4 to give quickness, they also reduced the cooldown of frenzy, increased the heal scaling of shouts, and buffed tactical reload in the June patch. One of the main reasons bladesworn became meta is because core guard, willbender, and harbinger aren't played as often as before. The aegis and blinds from the first two were annoying to deal with and harbinger was a good counter spec to bladesworn.
@@Shadowfall_TV I’m new and keep hearing about will bender guardian getting. nerfed is it now really bad and not top? Also is bender easy to start as for pvp
Imagine your tip to counter bladesworns is what i said in the Forums and get Tons of confused smileys for it xD. Also the right way to just evade dragontrigger to like 99% is simply side dodge it if the bladesworn isnt near you. If he actually is just dodge straigth into him. xd
The pvp is spammy and full of instant downs. Too much CC which is a shame because they semed to understand wow had this problem and tried to lower how strong cc is.
People love complaining. Everytime there is something new, someone complains either cause it is op or bad. Thats because many people believe they should be invincible and win every situation they encounter even if alone. The reality is that the game is designed to have players at their peak in A TEAM that means you dont have to face anything alone everytime and you dont have to be a swiss knife with every tool. If you are having issues against the BS cc you will have same issues against any other cc, like necro fears,pulls,levitates, or mesmer dazes,pulls,levitates,stuns, or any other. Solution: if you like support and your team lacks stability, use something that will give stab, like guardian. If you are dps or roamerish stay with your support teammate. If youre having issues dealing damage to the BS you will have same issues dealing damage to a guardian or a tempest or engi. Solution: if you are support be the distraction make him waste skills while you tank them prepare the field for your dps player to be able to damage the worn off enemy. If you are melee dps dont be the first player to engage wait until the enemy has used some skills then bomb him. If you are ranged dps dont go fight him alone to see how fast he closes the gap to you, shoot him when there is a distraction in between All these are basic fighting concepts people need to implement and stop complaining about every other new spec or playstyle. There is a comment down somewhere here of a guy that says "i just corrupt his boons" thats smart thinking, use your best features to counter the enemy. Dont expect to fight the enemy at the Thing it does great or you will have a hard time. The advice in this video is a solution, but not the best one, this guy is telling you go fight the BS the same way he fights, go face him in the one thing it does great and hope to win. Thats like telling you go fight Mike Tysson with your fists if you punch him faster and harder than him you will defeat him before he can throw a punch.... Very unlikely... Never do this, is not effcient and you are not alone, go with a teamate think of your role and how you can be part of the process. If you can think this way you will be able to fight not only BS but any other difficult spec and you will be even able to fight them when they have their allies. Apply same thinking process on several enemies: whats my role, whats my part of the process, who is tanking, who is distracting, who is supporting, who is doing the damage, when do i do my part, what is the priority target. Cause trust me if Tysson is got his friends with him and you still thinking of going alone with your fists at him, your slim chances of hitting him are now zero.
What do you mean you don't dodge roll into enemy attacks? maybe is because I was trained to do this by both Monster Hunter and the Soulsborne series but for real, if the attack is a dash you are 99.9% going to be hit if you dodge backwards, that doesn't sound like a bug but the attack working as intended, the dash itself is a good 10 meters long which probably means the hitbox will follow the character model as it travels meaning you will be safe by dodging into it or to the side.
-DT CD is bugged, its shorter than its should
-DT Stab ICD is bugged its shorter than it should
-Impossible to dodge a melee DT2
-Busted heals, make constant mistakes and get no punishment
Awful design
The problem is that it's bad, Like the PvP in just about every other MMO.
Theres just a small handfull of spec's that do well, and most of the classes don't have access to those spec'd that do well.
The Dodge really reminds me of Elden Ring where you have to dodge into many enemies otherwise you wind up finishing into the hit box of moves.
Also found that while it will one shot you almost, lightning rod Weaver world okay into BS. Numerous projectile denial skills, a metric ton of cc that can come out very fast with reasonable burst. Not saying it does well, but it does okay especially as a plus one.
That's a good comparison! There aren't many skills like that in GW2. Dragon Slash - Boost is one of a small handful(?) of examples. LR is also a good pick! It's squishy though so if you don't play perfectly you could likely get two-shot by an unfortunate Dragon Trigger into Axe 2 as an example.
I hope you enjoyed the video! Thanks for the support! :D
I've always wanted to see what ranger GS 5 (Hilt Bash) looks like when you don't have latency. If you're above ~200 it just slides you a bit and doesn't land.
The highest I've played on was around 140 on EU. It definitely felt like I had to predict what I wanted to interrupt more. It might help if the enemy is moving towards you or is in an animation lock leap towards you that they can't cancel. Even with 200 ping I feel like it would make it more reliable to land the skill.
Hope that helps! Thanks for the support :)
Immobilize and condis are honestly big weaknesse's to the class..
He only has Shake it off for condi cleanse( unless if u take the rune for shout cleanse) which is also his only stun break.
Also, it's not that effective against 2v1 scenarios becouse of the many CCS everyone has...
U're gonna shake it off once, and then you're dead.
It's still strong don't get me wrong, but the only problematic thing is the dragon slash hit box.
other than that its... ok
having 1 stack of stability when you're standing still , casting your signature and strongest move and basically the reason to play bladesworn, is not wierd.. others get stability for no reason at all.
Catalyst is considered better duelist, and bladesworn rose up after the vindicator nerfs right?
Also the Rise of tempest which happened thanks to the harbringers,makes Bladesworn a little worse cus suprisingly enough, bladesworn has.. more projectiles that he should.
And let's not fool ourselfs... the reason why this class works is just... the good old shout mechanic , which is the only thing that warrior has going on for him at this point.
No shouts, no party...
Btw the class has no 25% movement speed from disc trait as well as 0 swiftness uptime unless u're playing warhorn .
it's not THAT fast... Rangers and thiefs and willbenders and every roamer are x5 times faster, this spec is NOT good for roaming.
it's a GOOD duelist which can also teamfight very well and those are more than enough to make the spec "Good", but u also mentioned roaming, which is not the case.
it's NOT a good roamer.
Hey Akhs! Bladesworn can also go Peak Performance and Mending vs. heavier condi teams. Also Bladesworn became meta once Core Guards, Willbenders, and Harbingers shifted down the totem pole. As for the warhorn and shouts, most Bladesworns do run warhorn and soldier runes for the utility they provide. You are correct, Bladesworn is not a roamer but it has the mobility and damage to chase kills, decap, and take very favorable 2v1s when plussing fights. If a Bladesworn wanted to play like a roamer and run around the map to pick up kills, their kit can support that playstyle well. However, it is an exceptionally strong teamfighter and is good in sides as well. Bladesworn has way more mobility than an Untamed if that's what you were comparing it to (3x break step, 3x flicker step, 4s cd dragon slash - boost vs. 1 swoop and 900 range targeted port).
@@Shadowfall_TV you're making them all x3 cus of the ulti but in reality it doesn't really work like that.. does it?
If you go peak performance and mending, you're sustain drops significantly right?
And that's why warrior in general is "Healthy" as a class.
Trade offs.
Warrior actually has very heavy trade offs.
You want to take warhorn? you loose the ridiculus damage of pistol, or the CC/block of shield.
U want to take sword for mobility? u lose ridiculus axe damage.
You want to take mending for condi?
You loose a lot of sustain against power builds and ur duelist power against other GOOD bunker builds drops.
The realistic mobility of the bladesworn btw, is just gunsaber 5 x2.
if u want to use ulti to use it a third time.. be my guest.
If you're in combat and u have flow, u can also use dragon slash which is REALLY good.
btw, most bladesworns indeed run soldier rune for the condi clear, but not warhorn.
Most bladesworn will go axe/pistol in my experience since it's better for duels and most bladesworn choose to do the duelist role.
If u want to do teamfights, warhorn gets better ofc.
But in my experience most people do run pistol off hand.
Anyway my point is that you're overglorifying bladesworn.. and you're overgloryfing mechanics like the stability on a standing still cast-time skill, while other classes get stability by farting.
He literally used to have protection on that trait and it was garbage cus u could just interupt him easy.
You're overgloryfing his tool kit by making it sound like he has everything x3.. i know it's in theory correct, but NOONE ever is gonna use the ulti to get an extra gunsaber 5 to roam faster... it's an exaggeration and again, an overgloryfication based on theory and not practice.
I am not saying it's not strong right now, it's obviously quite strong, but you're making it sound like... WOW, you're making basic stuff, sound like... omegalul broken.
The only REALLY broken thing is the dragon slash hit box...and u showed in the video it has something like... 5-7 different hitboxes.. and 1 dodge can't dodge all of them.
Which is actually insane.
But other than that i don't see any issue.
The class is getting carried by the good old shout mechanics which got enhanced by the ulti...
There have been A LOT better duelists in the past and INSANLY better team fighters in the past.
And for the roamers.. not even gonna bother.
@@akhsdenlew1861 the problem with this trash design is how brain dead it is. Can pick up it super fast and melt people.
It wins games at low level with no effort. Just compare it to untamed or herald in terms of effort and key presses to execute combos.
Don't even start with healing numbers also.
@@riananne3191 untamed is unsually hard actually.
let' compare it with the new engineer wilbender or harbringer.
i melted people without knowing what i was doing with harbringer
my counter to that:
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burst
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if you get the player before he is able to react and use his skills you just skipped the issue.
Haha kill them before they kill you... I like the mindset!
So I play scepter freshair weaver. I think my proudest pvp moment was when I stacked up a few offensive buffs from eternal colosseum, got 25 stacks of might from a teammate and then absolutely nuked a full health bladesworn for 30k damage. After one-shotting them them they actually complained about me playing a broken build :p
Sheeeeesh! Clip worthy moment haha
1:08 is not a bug, that's intended game play! In the clip you dodged back in the direction of the AoE; additionally, the range of the skill is 750 units with AoE equal to the graphics of the circle spin, so of course you are going to get hit. If you go frame by frame, you can see that the circle spin animation ends just as you get hit; the AoE range is very close to you as it ends. If you don't want to get hit, then dodge to the SIDES or FORWARD! During beta testing I played BS and this look normal to me and to many other warrior players. Are people going to complain about this? Lots of other classes have so many skills that hit you at the end of your dodge roll. Just to name a few:
Rapid fire (ranger)
Smoke assault (Soul beast)
Unrelenting assault (Revenant)
If you compare bladesworn dragon slash to smoke assault or Unrelenting assault , the smoke assault and Unrelenting assault TRACK YOU. In other words, you are going to get hit yes or yes! The warrior's dragon slash is not even close to these skills as you can easily dodge it to the sides or by simply dodging forward.
But of course if you dodge back then you dodge in the direction of motion of the dragon slash and you are going to get hit at the end!
People crying about this is what makes Anet nerf warrior over and over again. I mean, can't you just dodge to the sides? Dragon slash does not even track you like smoke assault and Unrelenting assault or many of the other skills in the game that track you and hit you at the end of your dodge roll.
I think this is a learn to play issue!
Its like trying to dodge a meteor shower but instead of dodging out of it, you dodge towards the meteor shower and fall just a few units near the AoE field. You should have dodge out and not in the direction of the AoE!
Or even better explained by using the dragon banner skill called "Dragon's Breath" which is a movable AoE; if you dodge in the direction of the AoE, you will end up in the AoE of the skill and your dodge will be useless! You don't dodge in the direction of AoE fields, you dodge OUT of them!
So, again, this is a learn to play issue and not a warrior issue! Try to visualize dragon slash as an AoE that creates lava in a straight line measuring 750 units long and about 350 units wide. YOU MUST NOT STAY WITHIN THIS AREA! YOU MUST NOT DODGE BACK AND FALL IN THE AOE FIELD.
Simply dodge to the side or dodge forward since the AoE quickly dissipates.
Hey Albert! When I said "bug" I was referring to the fact that quickness and slow do not affect the cast speed of Dragon Trigger skills. The hitbox is massive for sure. I mentioned in the video that the counterplay is to dodge in any direction except for directly away from the Bladesworn.
There's a complete opposite situation going on with Vindicator where it's dodge mechanic can be glitched in PvE and PvP, you can be taken out of it with walls or others CCs at certain frames, and in some cases, you can still be hit or be applied with conditions while in your dodge frames too. It kinda shocks me how Anet thought nerfing Vindicator in PvP was such a good idea when it's had this exact issue since launch, and probably since the beta events too.
you could always use certain things to CC vindi out of their dodge. I thought that was intentional
@@blackwing1996 That isn't intentional, it's quite clearly since your character mode is supposed to be in the air but if someone places down a wall, suddenly you're on the ground knocked back which ruins the entire point of the dodge anyway.
I find it hard to carry in ranked pvp, most people dont care about their rating in ranked, and going afk if first teamfight is lost. Its very rare getting a 400-400 point game where both teams are doing well I think.
Since Tactics and Strength is taken there's no warrior's sprint which means only 2 condi cleanse for immobilize on 75 second CDs and no other way to remove it. Gunblade also has insanely long CDs. Survive gunblade burst then immob spam and you will win.
Immobilize + CC spam is even better! Haha, thanks for the support Warrior, I hope you enjoyed the video! :D
sounds a bit like oldschool soulbeast before it got heavily nerfed. Good vid!
Indeed. Soulbeasts need their combat pet swap back haha. I'm glad you enjoyed the video! Thanks for the support Sandzibar! :D
My biggest problem in PVP is my aussie ping :(
Don't worry Adrian, I got a video for you coming soon :)
Great video, and great production quality. Really enjoying your content my dude, glad to see you on YT as I'm EU so don't get to catch your streams as often as I'd like.
Noticed this hard when I played a near perfect matchup but lost because of a marginally late dodge.... fun game design :')
A cool mini series would be similar things for meta builds. e.g. "How to fight a Catalyst/Specter/Untamed/Tempest" outlining key skills/damage outputs to avoid and counter for each
Hey Psy! Thank you!! I'm happy you're enjoying the content. And yeah haha the dragon triggers are really messing people up in PvP. I'll add that series idea to the list! Thanks for the suggestion and the support :D
meh, pvp and combat mechanics in general have always been a clunky poorly designed mess from day one of its launch.
BDO vs GW2 pvp?
Hey David! I've spent a lot of time on both, GW2 is a lot better imo. Equalized gear, alt friendly, animation based, stunbreaks, great rewards, etc.
BDO has none of that. Animations are cool in BDO but a lot of it isn't very reactive to avoid imo. Lot of it is just CC -> oneshot.
Hope that helps!
I just run necro and corrupt boons lol, with fear chain into float burst. works like a charm :)
Harbinger is a good pick into Bladesworn as well! Thanks for the support :)
@@Shadowfall_TV I look forward to all your vids, so thank you :)
@@rheono5839 bladesworn has tons of might, Fury and Stability when he's using dragon trigger.
very easy to remove them.
Nice video. I thought im the problem the last weeks. Yesterday my goal was to train dodges lol. Thanks for the work!! Lu
Thanks Viktor! I'm glad you enjoyed the video! Thanks for the support as always :D
Nice guide.
That's juice one, I will try to bake bladesworn Stun break CD.
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Theres a dozen of builds that are unfair, builds that dont require skill and oneshot people. Usually thieves and mesmers.
condi beats bladesworn. harbi is very good at matching them.
Hey Painkiller! Hammer untamed is also quite good into them 1v1 :D
Wow okay and i thought i was just too tired when i got hit by that..haha. I was questioning my sanity tho.
Haha yeah I feel ya, I didn't know what was happening at first either xD
I hope the video helps! :D
I am not a blade player in pvpbut i think the bigger problem of the game is how unbalanced this is , and most condi classes are way way too busted in nodes , atleast blade have to run away. and as of pvp I do think that warrior is the most balanced class of all of them , with close to zero bullshit. The actually need skills instead of using teleport to face and burst in secs , like untamed , slb , rev or guardian or condi bursting like harb or spector.
I agree
condi is just ridic because almost every condi build gets free vitality without losing damage
and not every class has more than one reliable way to deal with condis
and there's the issue of some classes having much stronger core kits than others.... making their classes just strong in general irregardless of spec choice
really don't think bsworn is the issue tho cause meta condi builds still rip them up
yes they're insanely unkillable to power builds but one or two spectres or harbis? bye bye bsworn lol that isn't mentioning the fact that certain classes have enough projectile hate, block (only dslash pierces block) and sustain just baked in and a lot of bsworn's damage disappears.
Yeah warrior has historically had very good telegraphs for their skills. Ranger is similar in that regard! Thankfully it is a power meta at the moment and condi classes aren't at the forefront.
@@Shadowfall_TV actually I kind of hate ranger lol... Only class with so much range haha, and their arrow can't be dodged
Very well done!
Hey Dany! I'm glad you enjoyed the video! Thanks for the support! :D
I posted about the dragon-slash boost issue on the forums but ppl were like "dodge into it 4-head" as if that's an established thing to need to do for skills in this game. Thanks for this video. PvP is the worst it's ever been imo if you aren't playing meta. My life is much improved after quitting it.
Haha yeah the hitbox is massive and lasts insanely long. It's crazy that I dodged the instant the flash went off but I still got hit by the end of the dash even though the Bladesworn was completely off-screen.
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shoutsworn has been my favorite spec and it needs some changes. I wonder if placing a cast time on shouts would help balance the class. It is honestly kind of ridiculous that you can fire off three shouts before even taking a breathe (e.g. the cast time before the abilities on war horn). In addition, interrupting a shout should put a short cooldown on all other shouts. What are your thoughts, blindside?
Unfortunately Bladesworn already feels clunky to play. I think a cast time on shouts would make it feel worse. However, "On My Mark!" being dodgeable would be a good start!
Evade, evade, evade, evade, evade, Bork. Sigh. Time for me to get good on your Trap Untamed build.
Haha let me know if you have any questions. Thanks for the support as always
both bladesworn and mechanist need a hard nerf
Nothing change for warrior for few last balance patches. Before when Dikbender was op i saw BS few times for all season. Now I saw it nearly in every match. So nothing change for warrior, just wilbender get nerf. Now bs, herald, and catalyst are in meta.
Hey Lighting! They recently reworked warhorn 4 to give quickness, they also reduced the cooldown of frenzy, increased the heal scaling of shouts, and buffed tactical reload in the June patch.
One of the main reasons bladesworn became meta is because core guard, willbender, and harbinger aren't played as often as before. The aegis and blinds from the first two were annoying to deal with and harbinger was a good counter spec to bladesworn.
@@Shadowfall_TV Yes they give him quickness agree, but where they give him more heal? In with patch? Nothing change from June.
@@Shadowfall_TV I’m new and keep hearing about will bender guardian getting. nerfed is it now really bad and not top? Also is bender easy to start as for pvp
Imagine your tip to counter bladesworns is what i said in the Forums and get Tons of confused smileys for it xD.
Also the right way to just evade dragontrigger to like 99% is simply side dodge it if the bladesworn isnt near you. If he actually is just dodge straigth into him. xd
My click has been baited. 👀
It worked! 👀
Haha just kidding, I hope you enjoyed the video :D
Great... now try with a non-ranger class :).
The pvp is spammy and full of instant downs. Too much CC which is a shame because they semed to understand wow had this problem and tried to lower how strong cc is.
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gw2 pvp is dead. so many ppl use macros and topleague only wintrade at night and dodge eachother.
People love complaining. Everytime there is something new, someone complains either cause it is op or bad. Thats because many people believe they should be invincible and win every situation they encounter even if alone.
The reality is that the game is designed to have players at their peak in A TEAM that means you dont have to face anything alone everytime and you dont have to be a swiss knife with every tool.
If you are having issues against the BS cc you will have same issues against any other cc, like necro fears,pulls,levitates, or mesmer dazes,pulls,levitates,stuns, or any other.
Solution: if you like support and your team lacks stability, use something that will give stab, like guardian. If you are dps or roamerish stay with your support teammate.
If youre having issues dealing damage to the BS you will have same issues dealing damage to a guardian or a tempest or engi.
Solution: if you are support be the distraction make him waste skills while you tank them prepare the field for your dps player to be able to damage the worn off enemy. If you are melee dps dont be the first player to engage wait until the enemy has used some skills then bomb him. If you are ranged dps dont go fight him alone to see how fast he closes the gap to you, shoot him when there is a distraction in between
All these are basic fighting concepts people need to implement and stop complaining about every other new spec or playstyle.
There is a comment down somewhere here of a guy that says "i just corrupt his boons" thats smart thinking, use your best features to counter the enemy. Dont expect to fight the enemy at the Thing it does great or you will have a hard time.
The advice in this video is a solution, but not the best one, this guy is telling you go fight the BS the same way he fights, go face him in the one thing it does great and hope to win. Thats like telling you go fight Mike Tysson with your fists if you punch him faster and harder than him you will defeat him before he can throw a punch.... Very unlikely... Never do this, is not effcient and you are not alone, go with a teamate think of your role and how you can be part of the process. If you can think this way you will be able to fight not only BS but any other difficult spec and you will be even able to fight them when they have their allies. Apply same thinking process on several enemies: whats my role, whats my part of the process, who is tanking, who is distracting, who is supporting, who is doing the damage, when do i do my part, what is the priority target.
Cause trust me if Tysson is got his friends with him and you still thinking of going alone with your fists at him, your slim chances of hitting him are now zero.
Yes warrior is mad atm thanks for the tips , Blazenohaze.
Hey Blaze! I'm glad you enjoyed the video! Thanks for the support :D
game pvp died after 1st expansion heart of thorns realesed all pro players left