Joel Fitzgerald - How to shape a surfboard

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  • Опубликовано: 24 дек 2024

Комментарии • 269

  • @eskimodot
    @eskimodot 5 лет назад +12

    I've watched this so many times over the last 5ish years. Allways gives me chills.

  • @matthewkinoshita5549
    @matthewkinoshita5549 11 лет назад +31

    From a fellow shaper I want to thank you for making such A high quality video that brings out the true magic of building Surfboards.

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    • @valentinokayden6964
      @valentinokayden6964 3 года назад

      @Bryce Dash Happy to help xD

  • @JammaLamma
    @JammaLamma 5 лет назад +8

    Extraordinarily well make mini-documentary, beautiful stuff, really can't say enough how impressed I was with every single aspect of this film.

  • @sambartosik-velez8439
    @sambartosik-velez8439 8 лет назад +28

    I love this video. I am only 13 years old and when I grow up I want to be a shaper and I was always so curious how to shape.

    • @tajreeve7157
      @tajreeve7157 4 года назад +1

      Same and I’m watching this an I’m 13

    • @mason7211
      @mason7211 4 года назад

      @@tajreeve7157 same

    • @frankegan4392
      @frankegan4392 4 года назад +1

      14 but made 1 and going to make a 2nd

    • @coulterthekook0113
      @coulterthekook0113 4 года назад +1

      @@frankegan4392 nice I’m also 13 and hoping to shape one soon maybe with Russell’s

  • @garryperrin2408
    @garryperrin2408 5 лет назад +11

    1st instructional I’ve seen. Been wondering about it almost 50 years. Thank you 📐💜

  • @charliecharlie3359
    @charliecharlie3359 5 лет назад +4

    Wow!! Joel! My first trip to Bali... Ulu... Such a blissful memory. I realized that there is no limit at being nice when i met you years ago. Thanks for sharing! Charlie. :)

  • @PaulCarterArt
    @PaulCarterArt 4 года назад +2

    Great to see the many, many aspects of creating and shaping to the machine shape and color and glassing. Thanks guys this is one for all generations to learn about the art of shaping surfboards and surfing🎨👍🏾

  • @DiditPrasetyoA
    @DiditPrasetyoA 5 лет назад +1

    everything about this video is good!! super lucky, and grateful that i got the chance to take of photos of joel shaping, and surfing.

  • @loovaldeez
    @loovaldeez 11 лет назад +3

    this is an awesome mini documentary. really great work

  • @PaulCarterArt
    @PaulCarterArt 5 лет назад +10

    Awesome time capsule of the whole process. Much respect from a fellow surfer-shaper-artist., Thanks guys 👍🏾

  • @joeblow1942
    @joeblow1942 4 года назад +6

    8:55. No mask, no gloves and bathes in acetone. This dude is gnarly.

    • @tnkmch
      @tnkmch 3 года назад +2

      I was thinking the same thing. I hope the glasser is ok in the long run. It seems like cancer waiting to happen.

  • @abramjsolano
    @abramjsolano 5 лет назад +6

    What the song at exactly 8:42 @surfingXtreme, "I see right through your eyes, the calm and touch, took the night sky" its all I could get! and i dont see it sounding the same as the songs listed on the credits. Please!!! il sub share and hit that bell

    • @SimonListerPhotography
      @SimonListerPhotography 5 лет назад +4

      Hey mate, just saw this message, the band is Mammals with Guy Brown as the composer, this song was a demo that ended up on my film but not sure if he ever released it , as same to some of the other tracks here. www.triplejunearthed.com/artist/mammals, Regards

  • @hunterschoephoerster
    @hunterschoephoerster 11 лет назад +2

    Hey Joel,
    this video has been a really good one! I shaped one myself and i understand where your coming from with it being the magic stick! Pretty hard to get for a new shaper like myself, but with you I dont see the problem ha! I went to hawaii myself and the waves are so fun! Glad you had fun and you're definitely one of my favorite shapers now that I have seen this video! Keep up the good work!

  • @ehsproject
    @ehsproject 11 лет назад +2

    beautiful film - thanks for sharing your journey Joel

  • @avocadosforlunch
    @avocadosforlunch 6 лет назад

    Great video on how to watch a board be machine shaped and glassed, best part is the music it seems and many dope line up shots. Joel is a super humble ripper.

  • @grafserigrafia4022
    @grafserigrafia4022 4 года назад

    Exelent video! Does someone know the name of the song at the beigining? Alguien sabe el nombre de la cancion del principio?

  • @Domega-ek4vw
    @Domega-ek4vw 5 лет назад +1

    Great video. I love seeing someone so passionate about surfing live there dream. Love it bro......

  • @kitersrefuge7353
    @kitersrefuge7353 4 года назад

    Ozzy perfectionism personified that shouts "stoke" from the rooftops. Awesome.

  • @neosho6428
    @neosho6428 4 года назад

    Awesome video! Even it is already 7 yrs old!

  • @dbo4506
    @dbo4506 4 года назад

    Great video! I found a yellow 6’8 midnight lightning by Joel in my local today. Went in to look at grovelers... now Im getting a single fin weapon for those days with a bit of size 😍 First thing tomorrow I’m going back to get it. FROTHING!!!

  • @90MattDavies
    @90MattDavies 11 лет назад +2

    What is the music in the end! It's great!!!

    • @yoschawilanda7201
      @yoschawilanda7201 4 года назад

      Matthew Davies 6:38 did you know what the song is?

    • @matthewlole7819
      @matthewlole7819 4 года назад +1

      Yoscha Wilanda mammals unreleased demo. They sent me the music after I requested it via Facebook. I can forward it it you like :)

    • @lucidoffset
      @lucidoffset 4 года назад

      Matthew Lole could you forward me please. I felt really spirit of surf in that song. Thks a lot

  • @rollafilms4601
    @rollafilms4601 5 лет назад

    Awesome doc guys , nice work.

  • @spabrice2488
    @spabrice2488 10 лет назад +6

    Great video. I'm still looking for the song which starts at 9:00. Shazam doesn't find anything.

  • @faithstr8574
    @faithstr8574 5 лет назад

    Great resource!! How much density of polyurethane foam you use?

  • @backyardshaper6435
    @backyardshaper6435 6 лет назад

    Great shaping video by Joel

  • @soapbox187
    @soapbox187 11 лет назад +1

    Thank you very much for sharing this with us. Indeed a way of life incomparable to many.

  • @shanebsmith11
    @shanebsmith11 9 лет назад +13

    love this video,so spiritual..capturing the essence of surfing well..

  • @jayedwin98020
    @jayedwin98020 2 года назад

    I noticed in the video, you were carrying a "3" fin surfboard.
    Are there any advantages or differences between using a
    "3" fin, verses a "4" fin board,
    regarding performance?
    Back in the day when I was surfing, all I had was 'one' fin.
    And from this comment you can tell its been awhile.

  • @alexisbilleci9117
    @alexisbilleci9117 11 лет назад +2

    I felt like you where taking me to all these places and teaching me one on one. You really made me feel welcome! I would love to make my own board once. :D

  • @kylewattssurfing3266
    @kylewattssurfing3266 5 лет назад

    Thank you thank you thank you great video great content thanks for sharing. It's nice to learn how surfboards are made and not just riding them.

  • @jamescameron7633
    @jamescameron7633 2 года назад

    Work of art

  • @a.grandis8318
    @a.grandis8318 9 лет назад

    Oh, nice video!
    Mr. Rae Neil:
    I know lots of renowned glassers that choose not to use mask.
    Why is that?
    When I was a kid, around 16-17, I used to fix surfboards for me and many friends and had a problem in my blood because I didn't wear a mask. Went to the doctor because a hurt wouldn't heal for a month. He said it was the gas from the resin. As soon as I stop fixing surfboards the hurt healed.
    I really appreciate your hard work and many years of serving the surf community!
    Good glassers deserve recognition!
    Thanks for the video!!!
    Aloha.

    • @ZmannR2
      @ZmannR2 6 лет назад

      Lol, "the hurt" huh?

  • @jayedwin98020
    @jayedwin98020 2 года назад

    Are multiple wood 'stringers' ever still used?

  • @dmoon224
    @dmoon224 3 года назад

    Anyone know the song playing in the background? Tks

  • @makewhatyoulike119
    @makewhatyoulike119 3 года назад

    what kind of foam is the original blank made from?

  • @lorenzolatini7508
    @lorenzolatini7508 6 лет назад +1

    and still nobody said what's the name of the song at 8:30. I ask to SurfingXtreme if they can tell us. Please, no way on shazam and is not on the credit of the video.

  • @VirtualHearing
    @VirtualHearing Год назад

    what type of styro do you use?

  • @manuelschmidt3279
    @manuelschmidt3279 Месяц назад

    What’s the name of the song around 9min-12min?

  • @workingtitle1455
    @workingtitle1455 4 года назад

    I have a board which has flat bottom contour from nose to chest area (When your lying face-down and paddeling) and transitions gradually to a double concave in the middle of the board (No single concave before the double) then it transitions to a Vee at the tail end. I do not know what does that do for the board or the rider or how the board will behave in the water. It's a 6'6" x 21 x 2.75 Egg shaped board. I still haven't tried it because we are still on strict quarantine. It's still wrapped in it's packaging. It's my 1st board. Been riding rentals. Would appreciate it if you could tell me what to expect with that kind of bottom contour. Most boards start with a single concave then gradually transition to double but this one, from flat, goes to double right-away. Please do share if you have tried a board like this. Thank you and best of luck to your channel. :)

    • @Surfmus
      @Surfmus 2 года назад +1

      As is your first board you will not feel the difference until you are riding other boards. Let's say about 3 years surfing at least 3 times a week.
      That board will paddle slowly because it has a flat entry, also taking in consideration the buoyancy.
      Once on a wave, depending on the size, the double concave is meant for speed and the V for transition. Being an EGG shape makes is somehow maneuverable but then it again is all about the surfer. Don't expect huge turns on this, gotta some leg power to snap it. But is only a 6,6 so that's not that bad to maneuver it.

    • @workingtitle1455
      @workingtitle1455 2 года назад

      @@Surfmus Thank you very much

  • @Sondaze
    @Sondaze 8 лет назад +4

    Oh my fucking shit can someone name the song at 9:14 I've been waiting years

  • @austinartist0608
    @austinartist0608 2 года назад

    Great work. I missed my calling. It's deep within me, the urge to shape and I live in Texas lol. Your amazing at it. There's now way I'm dropping in on a North Shore wave with 4 other guys doing it too. No way at all. Put me on the sand and call me Howlie

  • @HarryProudlove
    @HarryProudlove 5 лет назад

    So therapeutic.

  • @nicolasfratta8317
    @nicolasfratta8317 9 лет назад +1

    Someone knows whats the name of the song that starts at 9:00 ? thanks

  • @georgegurgenidze6862
    @georgegurgenidze6862 8 лет назад

    nice surfboards waves and music :)

  • @shanestephanick2861
    @shanestephanick2861 5 лет назад +1

    Does anyone know the name of the second song when he is shaping

    • @mammals4935
      @mammals4935 5 лет назад

      Hey man thats a Mammals instrumental

    • @nicgrove9022
      @nicgrove9022 4 года назад

      @@mammals4935 what instrumental??can't find it anywhere

    • @matthewlole7819
      @matthewlole7819 4 года назад

      Hey! I contacted Mammals and its an unreleased demo. They've sent me the song on facebook which I can send through to you via facebook message if you'd like :)

    • @shanestephanick2861
      @shanestephanick2861 4 года назад

      @@matthewlole7819 I do not have Facebook but fell free to send me it to my email at shanestephanick@gmail.com thanks man!

    • @spacetart
      @spacetart 4 года назад

      @@matthewlole7819 brother ive been dying to find this song too! specially the one that starts at 9:00, i found them on spotify but none of these songs are there!

  • @invertirtiempo
    @invertirtiempo 10 лет назад

    great film!

  • @СтаниславКечин-м9и
    @СтаниславКечин-м9и 9 лет назад +1

    that for the material used for making surf?
    May I ask your specification?

    • @StoneMalonee
      @StoneMalonee 5 лет назад

      Станислав Кечин still waiting

  • @rigdenwest8239
    @rigdenwest8239 5 лет назад

    Would love to learn but ive never surfed..i even grew up on the beach..

  • @khethelomthethwa4638
    @khethelomthethwa4638 5 лет назад

    Amazing video🔥

  • @ric181024
    @ric181024 11 лет назад +1

    wao me encanta its amazing video

  • @AllanSCloc
    @AllanSCloc 9 лет назад +2

    song that plays through 8:35???

  • @simonebelli9399
    @simonebelli9399 6 лет назад +2

    Song at @9:50 ?? please help

    • @simonebelli9399
      @simonebelli9399 6 лет назад +1

      up

    • @hwangorangutan
      @hwangorangutan 6 лет назад +1

      @@simonebelli9399 do you know who it's by? i still can't find it

    • @simonebelli9399
      @simonebelli9399 6 лет назад

      Louis Hwang no.. still anything p

    • @williamvanniekerk9896
      @williamvanniekerk9896 6 лет назад

      hey dude download an app called Shazam. it'll tell you what song it is. good luck

    • @simonebelli9399
      @simonebelli9399 6 лет назад

      William van Niekerk no way, doesn't work with that sound.. not even searching lyrics on google

  • @ThekyBui
    @ThekyBui 10 лет назад +1

    i want to make a surfboard, but i dont know which resin must be used? please help!!!!

    • @yannicarapetis6161
      @yannicarapetis6161 10 лет назад +1

      well it all depends on the kind of core that you're using. for an EPS core you need to use an (EPOXY) resin!!!!!! i can not stress this enough. PU foam can use epoxy or polyester resin. if you use polyester on EPS then you have ruined you board. it melts the foam!!!! so use EPOXY for EPS mate :)

    • @ThekyBui
      @ThekyBui 10 лет назад

      yanni carapetis thank for your help! i will make my first surfboard soon!

    • @antoniomilnecarmo
      @antoniomilnecarmo 9 лет назад

      +yanni carapetis (SA Sliders)
      what is he doing on 10.40??? can someone help me?

    • @yannicarapetis6161
      @yannicarapetis6161 9 лет назад

      antonio carmo filler coat or like hot coat mate. in really simple terms, its so he can sand it back

    • @antoniomilnecarmo
      @antoniomilnecarmo 9 лет назад +1

      thanks bro

  • @Lukeg2024
    @Lukeg2024 6 лет назад +2

    So much respect to Rae Neil. Amazing work Sir. Thank you. Luke Ding Dr.

  • @Surfmus
    @Surfmus 6 лет назад +5

    I shape my own boards. It's like the mafia. No going back into buying off the racks that's for sure.

  • @TheBighobby
    @TheBighobby 5 лет назад

    I like this video thanks

  • @HappyPappynKatyTX
    @HappyPappynKatyTX 6 лет назад

    Awesome. Love it

  • @theMTLutzinator
    @theMTLutzinator 8 лет назад +2

    Still looking for the song 8:24 ...

  • @surf_videos
    @surf_videos 7 лет назад

    Excellent vid Joel - hope to see more like this. Your vid gves a much needed dimension to the surfing industry - instead of pro surfing events. A career choice as much as a lifestyle choice.

  • @brodieschneider2605
    @brodieschneider2605 5 лет назад +25

    2019 anyone ?

  • @oscarmoyles6363
    @oscarmoyles6363 5 лет назад

    Beauty film.

  • @ZanyWabbit
    @ZanyWabbit 4 года назад +1

    @6:06 what is "darta"

    • @Ehllo_Mello
      @Ehllo_Mello 2 месяца назад

      A type of resinous traditionally used with carbud an feiburr, from way back in Polynesia days

  • @JoJoGator
    @JoJoGator 9 лет назад

    irony my name is joel and it was uploaded on my birthday, and shaping is my life bizarre-o world indeed. cheers... not gonna lie the cnc (DSD) shaping part bummed me out :/

  • @nicktsirigotis9356
    @nicktsirigotis9356 11 лет назад

    Nice video.

  • @LitschiTree
    @LitschiTree 6 лет назад +1

    Does anyone know the song at 00:20

    • @tysonrinker8089
      @tysonrinker8089 6 лет назад

      dertypvonnebenan1,5 jacobites-before i die

    • @LitschiTree
      @LitschiTree 6 лет назад +1

      Tyson Rinker thanks :)

    • @llimoemmar6437
      @llimoemmar6437 6 лет назад +2

      Carried- mammals

    • @LitschiTree
      @LitschiTree 5 лет назад

      Limoe The Snail Thank you so much!! Brightened up my day quite a bit there 🤙🏼

  • @annasophie1639
    @annasophie1639 9 лет назад

    For all of you who are asking for the songs: Music tracks are in the credits!!

    • @annasophie1639
      @annasophie1639 9 лет назад +1

      Btw the song by Mammals is called "Carried"!

    • @abramjsolano
      @abramjsolano 5 лет назад

      @@annasophie1639 Whats the song at 9: exactly with I took the night watch??

  • @antoniomilnecarmo
    @antoniomilnecarmo 9 лет назад

    what is he doing on 10.40??? can someone help me?

  • @nichade879
    @nichade879 11 лет назад

    what sander is recomended?

  • @zack7656
    @zack7656 10 лет назад +1

    please! does anyone know the song thats being played starting around the 11:56 mark? thank u!

    • @7eventy7even18
      @7eventy7even18 7 лет назад

      Zachary kavovit-murphy oliver tank - what have i become

  • @chasegarrett6159
    @chasegarrett6159 6 лет назад

    The music is all in the ending credits. Its by "mammals"

    • @klevers23
      @klevers23 5 лет назад +1

      5:45 name song please🥺

    • @matthewlole7819
      @matthewlole7819 4 года назад

      Kleverson G. Argueta I’ve got it direct from Mammals, unreleased demo. I can forward it via facebook

  • @cycloneranger5354
    @cycloneranger5354 3 года назад +1

    5:16 "how do you go about measuring a hand shaped surfboard"
    > put it into a computer and next thing you know the deck appears.
    wow

  • @georgegurgenidze6862
    @georgegurgenidze6862 8 лет назад +3

    Music list anyone? 9:00

  • @7eventy7even18
    @7eventy7even18 7 лет назад +2

    what's the song at 9:00 please.

  • @mtelaserjet
    @mtelaserjet 11 лет назад

    what are the songs in video?

  • @alexmurphy5954
    @alexmurphy5954 11 лет назад

    this is where i got my blanks
    and fibre glass and resin
    they made it soo much easier

  • @justinrussell3166
    @justinrussell3166 10 лет назад

    so rad

  • @AllanSCloc
    @AllanSCloc 9 лет назад +1

    not the mammals one or the flash forest remix one..

  • @robcantu7455
    @robcantu7455 5 лет назад

    song at the beginning anyone?

  • @данилалевит
    @данилалевит 5 лет назад

    yes

  • @davesimmons6517
    @davesimmons6517 8 лет назад

    Logo application at filler coat stage ? It'll come off ?

    • @undertowsurf
      @undertowsurf 5 лет назад

      Would be a quick clear lam over sticker due to tint. then filler

  • @jelleleer7943
    @jelleleer7943 5 лет назад +1

    That's amazing! I made a longboard myself, have a look at my channel! I'd love to make a surfboard one day!

  • @raptorperegrine
    @raptorperegrine 10 лет назад +1

    Musica at 6.00 PLEASE SOMEONE PLEASE

    • @tysonrinker8089
      @tysonrinker8089 6 лет назад +1

      raptorperegrine darude -sandstorm

    • @matthewlole7819
      @matthewlole7819 4 года назад

      Hey! I contacted Mammals and its an unreleased demo. They've sent me the song on facebook which I can send through to you via facebook message if you'd like :)

  • @RoneyRibeiroshaper
    @RoneyRibeiroshaper 8 лет назад

    Perfeito....

  • @crusadershuakbar
    @crusadershuakbar 6 лет назад +3

    huh,..,well thats strange this video just showed up in my list, i grew up in a surfboard factory to, my father was Bill Wallace [Dec] and i was just talking to a mate, Stewart Campbell of WaterPistols, about shaping me a board this morning, huh, odd type of synchronicity , howdy young fitzgerald, lol , Narrabeen right, me to, well 45 years ago, Noosa now

  • @TheSilverSurfisher
    @TheSilverSurfisher 6 лет назад +6

    It's like shaping one's life isn't it!?....Ahhhh surf life...

  • @askal420
    @askal420 6 лет назад

    no mask glassing with poly?!!! and wish they added the sanding part too.

    • @colinh5938
      @colinh5938 5 лет назад

      Not really instructional in any way. Just showing you bits and pieces of how Joel lives life. More a self promotion clip, with advertising for Bennett's . Is that Barry Bennett? Was not much better than a Shane pop out. Wouldn't be seen dead with one, used to be the common expression in the 70's and 80's. But like Kylie, if you hang around long enough your reputation inexplicably seems to improve.

  • @MrBenbrown123
    @MrBenbrown123 11 лет назад +1

    im going to university to learn about surf science then this is my life ambition, who wouldnt want to do that AS A JOB!!!

    • @shlumpmommy9860
      @shlumpmommy9860 6 лет назад +2

      Ben Brown hello sir i know this was 4 years ago but what university are you talking about please

  • @PedrocamaroSS
    @PedrocamaroSS 11 лет назад

    Music list anyone?

    • @SurfingXtreme
      @SurfingXtreme  11 лет назад +1

      The music tracks are in credits of video : Mammals and Oliver Tank "What Have i Become " (Flash Forest Remix) ;)

    • @PedrocamaroSS
      @PedrocamaroSS 11 лет назад +1

      i've seen it but thanks anyway ;)

    • @1904Albert
      @1904Albert 10 лет назад +3

      SurfingXtreme song at 6:00 and 9:00 please

    • @antoniomilnecarmo
      @antoniomilnecarmo 9 лет назад +1

      +SurfingXtreme
      what is he doing on 10.40??? can someone help me?

    • @alessandropaz5173
      @alessandropaz5173 8 лет назад +1

      He is applying the "Hot Coat", it is an extra layer of epoxy witch give the surfboard a nice gloss, sometimes the hot coat will have UV protection, hope this was helpful.

  • @pmejclenihan9572
    @pmejclenihan9572 8 лет назад

    good

  • @BWallacePerspectives
    @BWallacePerspectives 5 лет назад

    I would like to get with a shaper in Florida near the Tampa area.. anyone want to chat?

  • @BijanIzadi
    @BijanIzadi 11 лет назад

    Mesmerizing, as the ocean always is

  • @raptorperegrine
    @raptorperegrine 10 лет назад

    dude there is no credit for the middle song of the video,now i have to go a try to listen to the lyrics and find it!

    • @1904Albert
      @1904Albert 10 лет назад

      Have you found the all the songs?

    • @Polcjust
      @Polcjust 10 лет назад

      dude use shazam!

    • @matthewlole7819
      @matthewlole7819 4 года назад +1

      Hey! I contacted Mammals and its an unreleased demo. They've sent me the song on facebook which I can send through to you via facebook message if you'd like :)

    • @dmoon224
      @dmoon224 3 года назад

      @@matthewlole7819 hey matt can u send me the song? Tkss

  • @timw1691
    @timw1691 9 лет назад +2

    did you manage to save your hat?

  • @jasonblanzy
    @jasonblanzy 5 лет назад

    How to shape a surfboard: A Computer. ... Ok got it!

  • @tasso453
    @tasso453 2 года назад

    I feel like the first two minutes are just name-droppin…

  • @Theblackdwhitehm
    @Theblackdwhitehm 11 лет назад

    This is my dream

    • @BrianNewport
      @BrianNewport 6 лет назад

      Theblackdwhitehm have you done it yet? Bro I’d love to do it but I’m too committed with family now

  • @Thestripper1
    @Thestripper1 4 года назад

    Nice, but this is not a "How to" video like the description says. This is a video of someone who is shaping board.

  • @3superdupergirlzchannel26
    @3superdupergirlzchannel26 8 лет назад

    Merrick is my grandpa!!

  • @JOEGGGJOE
    @JOEGGGJOE 6 лет назад +2

    Technology & machines have there place but have no soul. Great video though.

  • @3superdupergirlzchannel26
    @3superdupergirlzchannel26 8 лет назад

    Uncle*