I’ve had friends try to convince me to become romantic with our mutual friend because he expressed to them he was interested in me. But here’s the thing, as your friend, I have a front row seat and can see how you are in your relationships. Unfortunately for him that wasn’t a good thing. I’m not going to be naive and think you’d all of a sudden handle me differently than your other partners just because you’re with me. I’m going to accept that that’s who you are in relationships and keep you as a friend. Overall I think he’s great and fun to be around but there’s some things I don’t agree with
I date women and have a strict rule not to get involved with my friends. Also, if I do find myself attracted to a woman I ask her out right away to avoid any cloudiness in the potential friendship/relationship. Another great episode thanks.
Started dating my best friend. He had mostly female friends & I had no problem with them so I thought he would have no problem with my mostly male friends. Wrong! He turned into a insecure, jealous psycho. I did not know anything abt the guys who would ask him my number when we were still friends & when he saw me anywhere near them when we started dating he went crazy. Sometimes the friend you know & love is a completely different human being in a romantic relationship.
Fell in love with a best friend, dated for three years. Broke up because as a partner he was really insecure. Now I'm trying to go back to have something platonically because I don't want to lose his friendship. A mess y'all 😔
Look it's not going to work! Just move bitterless forward! You've ben romanticly together and its not going to be easy it's best for both of you to just distance yourself from each other and live your lifes.....
Very interesting. I do not consider friends as viable dating options. Had a friend that was interested in more & I found out from someone else. I was pissed because not only did I not see him that way, but I felt deceived. Especially after having early on in the friendship told that’s why I valued the friendship because I’m not attracted to him. People should not pretend to be your friend when they desire more.
I married my best friend.. we went from friends to engaged to married. He is the OPPERSITE of what I thought my husband would be. He said he was in love with me for years.. we have been married for over 10 yrs now
Ezze and nat is the reason I came out, I was hiding and suppressing my feelings for the same ex....now I'm soooo happy and fulfilled. It wasn't an easy journey, still isn't but I'm at peace with myself....I love you guys sooooo much and shan, I swear you inspire me ❤
Ahhh you dropped the visual!!! I’ve listened to the podcast over and over but it’s only right that the Queens of facial expressions have visuals too😂. Thanks Shan❤
It didn't work out for me when I did and losing their friendship entirely was rough. Real love is worth the risk though. I'd rather love them even for a moment than to not experience loving them at all.
I love Ezee !!!! Sometimes I feel like she’s trying to be too commercial though! I feel like she’s different behind camera wish she would let her guard down . She seems like a player!! But she’s dope .
I can definitely relate to everything said/discussed in this video. My situation didn’t work out for me, mainly because of family acceptance, but thanks for sharing your journey.
You definitely can be friends with ppl you could be or are attracted to bc ppl have value beyond sexual gratification. Like how you value a cousin etc just takes looking beyond sexuality. It’s hard to do though for many ppl.
I love how open and honest they can be with one another this is a definition of a honest lesbian relationship no controlling just two females loving and letting one another be who they want to be!
I am a definite believer in friendship being the foundation of every healthy relationship, romantic or not . Defo potential to be the best thing that happens in your life , or the worst coz u lose your friend and lover . I’m optimistic about this relationship though .
i typically ask early, even if i get a friend vibe, mostly to get it out of the way if i'm actually attracted to someone. some of the folks i've asked out (and i am queer) have ended up being long term friends so i think its really worth it to let someone know i'm interested immediately--at the very least i want to know that there's nothing going on on their end before pursuing a friendship.
I’m not really getting the vibe of a genuine love story either lol Natalie still gives me best friend energy and it seems a little pushed on Ezees end. Hope for the best
I feel the same way. To me, Ezee manipulated Nat by blurring the friendship/romantic lines. Because hetero male and female best friends wouldn't be cuddling and twerking like that. But, Ezee took her time and played with Nat's emotions. At least that's what I think. I think Nat is too straight and is trying to make herself sexually into Ezee.
ezee gives me the vibes that they would be fine if this relationship doesn't work like they kept saying she's surrounded by hot ppl that want her lol. i think it would be esp hard to be w a straight woman or a woman figuring out their sexuality. it takes a certain level of patience to hold someone's hand through their sexual journey. love can definitely be enough to carry you through but that's hard.
Nice convo, but all the convo's always feel like it is an open end ... I guess because shan doesn't officially closes off the podcast with her guests. But I guess thats the format.
I like this episode a lot, cause it has always boggled my mind the concept of men and women not being able to be friends. Which I resonate with cause I thought I had close friends once upon a time and it turns out they just want to sleep with me. It really hurt me. It still really hurts me, he’s been with me through some tough times
I fell in love with my BFF And I was in a relationship with my daughters father....We was at the very end and breaking up but it was a wrap. Even once we were officially done I didnt say a word bc I was soooo scared to ruin our friendship. We did everything together but a few months after my breakup Sept 20 2003 we went out to eat dinner one night and went to the park I made my move and asked for a kiss🤷🏾♀️🤣🤣🤣 He agreed.....it was super weird after bc he invited me over and I said no😂😂😂😂 I'd like to say 6 days later we slept together and been together over since. My daughter was 2 yrs old when got together, she just turned 22 last wk, we have 3 sons 18,12 and 10 and been happily happily married almost 12 yrs❤❤❤❤ He says me asking for a kiss was the best thing bc he was never going to try anything with due to fear bc he didn't want to mess up our friendship, even though he had strong feelings as well.....Im 45 and he is 46 now......best decision I made almost 20 yrs ago.
It's very interesting how EZEE is so open to feeling that way about her friends but on the low? lol to me idk how to feel because it's like why would that even be a thought? Like it should be boundaries set with self first of all! 🤦 some are very different idk can someone help me understand!
Lol well I am in the middle of this bestfriends for over 12 years and not even remotely attracted and never touched throughout our friendship nothing..then last year I started to see in him everything I was asking for and didnt know he had feelings for me for a while (we always said we had to go through our journey first to reach this point)... I have to be honest the physical stuff was a bit harder to get comfortable with but I just felt/feel soo happy with him and decided to just go for it... wish me luck 🙏🏽 😅 🙂
There was this guy I met on one of those phone chatlines and I took my cousin over with me to smoke with him. He told me he wasn’t interested me. I said that’s cool. I’m not looking for a guy right now. We’d meet up at the car wash and wash our cars. We’d always be together. Go to the club and people would ask if we’re dating because of the way we danced with each other. We ended up kissing one night and I left the city. He would always talk about his feelings for me but I would always change the subject. I knew the history he had with females and didn’t want to be another victim lol
i think your friendship was tainted by love interests, but i think having a great friend group that breaks up as you become adults is a shared experience for most of us
Two thing 1. They either liked you which is bad depending on how long you no relationship lasts. It can affect you in the future 2.which is the bettr option, they will take time to process and based on a try friendship, they love you both, so it will take some time but they will come back, maybe not the same but they will, unfortunately you might not be able to talk about your relationship to them
@@passionbaridinbo I think right now it is the 2nd option. Like you said it will be different. That worries me because the difference would be that I did something wrong and not that we’re both trying to make it up to each other since we both handled the situation wrongly.
@@withme1660 I wish you all the best, be ready for that as a consequence but make sure you also express that you were hoping , not requiring, that they handle the education differently and that you understand at the end of the day that it would alter the chemistry of the friendship which saddens you but is understandable. Communication really is key.
I think it’s more to than just loosing friendships if they don’t love u the same way I feel like u have to be mentally prepared for things to be sexual, mentally prepared to have those conversations where it’s like if we don’t end up together I cannot be friends with u so it’s more than just taking a risk u know ( sorry just rambling my thoughts)
Yes but she was refer to the friend as “Danny” and when spoke about 1985 joining a group he referred to him as “Daniel” so maybe they are 2 different people? Idk
Falling in love with your best friend is not logical at all. It sounds romantic but in reality it seems like a boundary that gets crossed which is not the good way to start out a relationship. The friendship you get after becoming lovers is sooooooo different than is you start off as a platonic friendship and I think the 2 should stay in their own lanes
Omg Shan & Natalie are so naturally beautiful they resemble sisters! Tbh I believe that Ezee made it very easy for Nat to fall for her bc Ez was/is obsessed with Nat and they also have great chemistry naturally beautiful energy together, Nat feels safe with her bc Ez is cool asf,I don't think it's soulmates or settling it's just alignment/opportunities with good vibes,Ez is the lezbo in love & Nat is bi sexual in like with a woman for now periodtt!🦄🤔🤩🥂🤑🎯jmo
Watching this podcast is just demonstrate the double standard in the black community and not one comment that’s homophobic , but if this was ever a male or transgender woman the hate would be on a different level -->look at the hypocrisy
@@BeautyTesha as a lesbian, you should be ashamed of yourself really because there’s lots of trans women who speak about their stories and there’s lots of gay men who speak their stories, we don’t get a platform to speak it.. and when we do our partners get labelled as gay or down, low by the black community, the black community are condemned to be more, excepting to lesbian & sexual fluid females, the black heterosexual community feel more comfortable because it’s too women so if you’re going to erase the fact that there is no double standard, when it comes to heterosexual platforms, I think that’s dangerous !
@@BeautyTesha I can name a few…. Gerren Keith Gaynor, Chris Witherspoon, Phill Wilson, karamo Brown, Darnell Moore, Danez Smith, Micheal Arceaux, B Hawk !!! girl what are you talking about? There’s so many would you like some more names !! You call yourself a lesbian, but you’re not educated about the LGBTQ community don’t tell me you’re just walking around with the label for no reason
@@BeautyTesha a transgender actress MJ Rodriguez on pose told her love story and the feedback was transphobic and homophobic to her partner ! The black community call him gay for being with her! Do you need any other names?
It's always interesting how women today put so many standards on men to be even remotely worth their time and energy but will accept another woman, flaws and all. Begs the question of are you truly in love or just rebelling against men in general?
I'd have to say falling in love and then becoming best friends. I did the opposite n it was disastrous. He was trash as a partner n it destroyed our friendship. I vowed to never do that again!! I have had other male friends who fell in love with me n it sucked bc I didn't feel the same. They were always trying to pressure me to just see how things would go, n try to convince me that we could just go back to being friends if it didn't work out. Eventually, me constantly turning them down, caused them to hate me. Two have since passed but the 3rd guy still won't speak to me all these years later. With him, it was like ur situation with Danny. I was supposed to go over to his house to spend the weekend while his folks were out of town. I felt uneasy about it bc he had expressed his feelings of love for me. The more I thought about it, the more I felt that something would happen if I went, n not on my part, if u get my drift. He would always be at my house, so he was popping up at my house every day n calling all day, every day. I left n had gone to a cousin's house to stay the weekend. Went to the club one night n saw him, so I tried to go to him to apologize n explain y I didn't come over. He gave me a look like, I'll kill u. I hate u. Get out of my face. That was my last communication with him. That was when I said that men n women can't be friends. It sucks!!
I’ve had friends try to convince me to become romantic with our mutual friend because he expressed to them he was interested in me. But here’s the thing, as your friend, I have a front row seat and can see how you are in your relationships. Unfortunately for him that wasn’t a good thing. I’m not going to be naive and think you’d all of a sudden handle me differently than your other partners just because you’re with me. I’m going to accept that that’s who you are in relationships and keep you as a friend. Overall I think he’s great and fun to be around but there’s some things I don’t agree with
Yep smart girl
That is the right decision. Don’t let him convince you otherwise.
LOVE THIS WAY OF THINKING
Well said 🤔
Yesss 🙌🏽🙌🏽👏🏽👏🏽🎉🎉
I date women and have a strict rule not to get involved with my friends. Also, if I do find myself attracted to a woman I ask her out right away to avoid any cloudiness in the potential friendship/relationship. Another great episode thanks.
Same! I try to keep those lines very clear, I've seen it go left with others in my life and I don't want to risk it.
Started dating my best friend. He had mostly female friends & I had no problem with them so I thought he would have no problem with my mostly male friends. Wrong! He turned into a insecure, jealous psycho. I did not know anything abt the guys who would ask him my number when we were still friends & when he saw me anywhere near them when we started dating he went crazy.
Sometimes the friend you know & love is a completely different human being in a romantic relationship.
Fell in love with a best friend, dated for three years. Broke up because as a partner he was really insecure. Now I'm trying to go back to have something platonically because I don't want to lose his friendship. A mess y'all 😔
Sorry boo ❤️
Look it's not going to work! Just move bitterless forward! You've ben romanticly together and its not going to be easy it's best for both of you to just distance yourself from each other and live your lifes.....
Awww sorry to hear that. Hoping one day you both find that friendship you once had.
Very interesting. I do not consider friends as viable dating options. Had a friend that was interested in more & I found out from someone else.
I was pissed because not only did I not see him that way, but I felt deceived. Especially after having early on in the friendship told that’s why I valued the friendship because I’m not attracted to him.
People should not pretend to be your friend when they desire more.
I married my best friend.. we went from friends to engaged to married. He is the OPPERSITE of what I thought my husband would be. He said he was in love with me for years.. we have been married for over 10 yrs now
Ezze and nat is the reason I came out, I was hiding and suppressing my feelings for the same ex....now I'm soooo happy and fulfilled. It wasn't an easy journey, still isn't but I'm at peace with myself....I love you guys sooooo much and shan, I swear you inspire me ❤
Your friend cracking up when you were talking about your other friend getting pissed at you made my night hahaha
Ahhh you dropped the visual!!! I’ve listened to the podcast over and over but it’s only right that the Queens of facial expressions have visuals too😂. Thanks Shan❤
It didn't work out for me when I did and losing their friendship entirely was rough. Real love is worth the risk though. I'd rather love them even for a moment than to not experience loving them at all.
Thats really deep and brave. Kudos to you!
Giirl, this was the most entertaining video I’ve seen. I was laughing with you, felt like I was part of the conversation. Loved it ❤
I love Ezee !!!! Sometimes I feel like she’s trying to be too commercial though! I feel like she’s different behind camera wish she would let her guard down . She seems like a player!! But she’s dope .
He seems to be emotionally intelligent and understanding.
This was a good interview they’re all very open and funny
This has FINALLY dropped.....I been waiting!!!! Thank you.
You’re the best 🥹🫶🏽🫶🏽🫶🏽
what’s the link to the apology language ezee?! love you & Natalie 🤍
I can definitely relate to everything said/discussed in this video. My situation didn’t work out for me, mainly because of family acceptance, but thanks for sharing your journey.
The chemistry between Shan and Y'all, it's just amazing 🤗🤗🤗♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
You definitely can be friends with ppl you could be or are attracted to bc ppl have value beyond sexual gratification. Like how you value a cousin etc just takes looking beyond sexuality. It’s hard to do though for many ppl.
I hear it, but I've never found a cousin sexually attractive. It's not the same type of love.
@@benirpierre2671 You have never but many many people surely have
I love how open and honest they can be with one another this is a definition of a honest lesbian relationship no controlling just two females loving and letting one another be who they want to be!
omg im geeking my worlds are merging!!!❤😮🎉 love yall!!!
I am a definite believer in friendship being the foundation of every healthy relationship, romantic or not . Defo potential to be the best thing that happens in your life , or the worst coz u lose your friend and lover . I’m optimistic about this relationship though .
i typically ask early, even if i get a friend vibe, mostly to get it out of the way if i'm actually attracted to someone. some of the folks i've asked out (and i am queer) have ended up being long term friends so i think its really worth it to let someone know i'm interested immediately--at the very least i want to know that there's nothing going on on their end before pursuing a friendship.
Hahahahahaha this is such a funny interview I loved it. I’ve definitely been there before.
This was amazing this is my first time being here but I will be back
Omg you and Paul’s friendship, and everything he said 💙 thank you
I’m not really getting the vibe of a genuine love story either lol Natalie still gives me best friend energy and it seems a little pushed on Ezees end. Hope for the best
I feel the same way. To me, Ezee manipulated Nat by blurring the friendship/romantic lines. Because hetero male and female best friends wouldn't be cuddling and twerking like that. But, Ezee took her time and played with Nat's emotions. At least that's what I think. I think Nat is too straight and is trying to make herself sexually into Ezee.
They broke up
@@lamfel_grey of course they did 🤦🏾♀️
We’ve been best friends since the age 10.. we’ve been married going on 4 years and dating for 7..
It took me until the end of the podcast to realize that was part of the Dvsn. Oh how I miss music channels. Good talk!
I tried and it didn't work out for us. I lost my best friend also in the process. It took years before we could speak again.
Never ever cross the line with a good friend, keep it friendly always🙏💜🙌
Every type of relationship goes through peaks and valleys. I think their odds are the same as any other relationship.
You all look like siblings Shan and Natalie.
I fuckin LOVE DVSN, hands down one of the most underrated groups
I’m really early lol but I love you Shan. It’s probably extremely scary to fall in love with your best friend 🥺 especially if it’s not reciprocated.
Unrequited love HURTS real bad
ezee gives me the vibes that they would be fine if this relationship doesn't work like they kept saying she's surrounded by hot ppl that want her lol. i think it would be esp hard to be w a straight woman or a woman figuring out their sexuality. it takes a certain level of patience to hold someone's hand through their sexual journey. love can definitely be enough to carry you through but that's hard.
Great conversation
It is funny how I am coming back to this after they broke up but this video from jump said a lot EZEE sacrifices a lot
Nice convo, but all the convo's always feel like it is an open end ... I guess because shan doesn't officially closes off the podcast with her guests. But I guess thats the format.
I like this episode a lot, cause it has always boggled my mind the concept of men and women not being able to be friends. Which I resonate with cause I thought I had close friends once upon a time and it turns out they just want to sleep with me. It really hurt me. It still really hurts me, he’s been with me through some tough times
I fell in love with my BFF And I was in a relationship with my daughters father....We was at the very end and breaking up but it was a wrap. Even once we were officially done I didnt say a word bc I was soooo scared to ruin our friendship. We did everything together but a few months after my breakup Sept 20 2003 we went out to eat dinner one night and went to the park I made my move and asked for a kiss🤷🏾♀️🤣🤣🤣 He agreed.....it was super weird after bc he invited me over and I said no😂😂😂😂 I'd like to say 6 days later we slept together and been together over since. My daughter was 2 yrs old when got together, she just turned 22 last wk, we have 3 sons 18,12 and 10 and been happily happily married almost 12 yrs❤❤❤❤ He says me asking for a kiss was the best thing bc he was never going to try anything with due to fear bc he didn't want to mess up our friendship, even though he had strong feelings as well.....Im 45 and he is 46 now......best decision I made almost 20 yrs ago.
I’m laughing over here with you guys 🥴💗🤣 33:12
It's very interesting how EZEE is so open to feeling that way about her friends but on the low? lol to me idk how to feel because it's like why would that even be a thought? Like it should be boundaries set with self first of all! 🤦 some are very different idk can someone help me understand!
Lol well I am in the middle of this bestfriends for over 12 years and not even remotely attracted and never touched throughout our friendship nothing..then last year I started to see in him everything I was asking for and didnt know he had feelings for me for a while (we always said we had to go through our journey first to reach this point)... I have to be honest the physical stuff was a bit harder to get comfortable with but I just felt/feel soo happy with him and decided to just go for it... wish me luck 🙏🏽 😅 🙂
Is it me or Shan and Natalie kinda look alike 👀
It's not you ✨
They are literally twins, been searching for someone who thought the same thing 😭
Beautiful ❤❤❤❤❤❤
There was this guy I met on one of those phone chatlines and I took my cousin over with me to smoke with him. He told me he wasn’t interested me. I said that’s cool. I’m not looking for a guy right now. We’d meet up at the car wash and wash our cars. We’d always be together. Go to the club and people would ask if we’re dating because of the way we danced with each other. We ended up kissing one night and I left the city. He would always talk about his feelings for me but I would always change the subject. I knew the history he had with females and didn’t want to be another victim lol
i think your friendship was tainted by love interests, but i think having a great friend group that breaks up as you become adults is a shared experience for most of us
Ezee and Natalie!🔥
Could you explore dating your best friend sibling? Just lost my best friend cause of this.
Two thing 1. They either liked you which is bad depending on how long you no relationship lasts. It can affect you in the future
2.which is the bettr option, they will take time to process and based on a try friendship, they love you both, so it will take some time but they will come back, maybe not the same but they will, unfortunately you might not be able to talk about your relationship to them
*now
*better
*true
@@passionbaridinbo I think right now it is the 2nd option. Like you said it will be different. That worries me because the difference would be that I did something wrong and not that we’re both trying to make it up to each other since we both handled the situation wrongly.
@@withme1660 I wish you all the best, be ready for that as a consequence but make sure you also express that you were hoping , not requiring, that they handle the education differently and that you understand at the end of the day that it would alter the chemistry of the friendship which saddens you but is understandable. Communication really is key.
@@passionbaridinboVery true, thank you :)
But does Eeze think she's a beautiful woman herself?
Hahaha!! About to spell the TEA 😂😂😂
I knew summin was up with Shan and Amber 👀👀
I thought it was just me who caught that. Lol 😂
What song is this y’all ? 36:32
I could be wrong but did i hear you say you were with Amber?
I think it’s more to than just loosing friendships if they don’t love u the same way I feel like u have to be mentally prepared for things to be sexual, mentally prepared to have those conversations where it’s like if we don’t end up together I cannot be friends with u so it’s more than just taking a risk u know ( sorry just rambling my thoughts)
So Daniel is the other half of dvsn?
Yes but she was refer to the friend as “Danny” and when spoke about 1985 joining a group he referred to him as “Daniel” so maybe they are 2 different people? Idk
I'm not convinced 😕 but they should enjoy it while it last
Thank you ❤️
Falling in love with your best friend is not logical at all. It sounds romantic but in reality it seems like a boundary that gets crossed which is not the good way to start out a relationship. The friendship you get after becoming lovers is sooooooo different than is you start off as a platonic friendship and I think the 2 should stay in their own lanes
Can your Best Friend not be your spouse?
Omg Shan & Natalie are so naturally beautiful they resemble sisters!
Tbh I believe that Ezee made it very easy for Nat to fall for her bc Ez was/is obsessed with Nat and they also have great chemistry naturally beautiful energy together, Nat feels safe with her bc Ez is cool asf,I don't think it's soulmates or settling it's just alignment/opportunities with good vibes,Ez is the lezbo in love & Nat is bi sexual in like with a woman for now periodtt!🦄🤔🤩🥂🤑🎯jmo
Did I already see this
Why is this posted now??
Ezee and Natalie had briefly broken up after this podcast so I guess she waited until things were cool again
@@mkw341 really they brokeup?
@@zaphire2766 yes
This is why lesbian women be trying me… they think they can flip me like Natalie 😂
And they’re broken up now; this interview became more interesting
I need to slime into someone's DM now 😃😃
35:05💕
whats an easy sexual?
*Ezee-sexual* meaning she’s only sexually attracted to Ezee
Yeah what the other comment is saying. Her partners name is Ezee.
Watching this podcast is just demonstrate the double standard in the black community and not one comment that’s homophobic , but if this was ever a male or transgender woman the hate would be on a different level -->look at the hypocrisy
@@BeautyTesha as a lesbian, you should be ashamed of yourself really because there’s lots of trans women who speak about their stories and there’s lots of gay men who speak their stories, we don’t get a platform to speak it.. and when we do our partners get labelled as gay or down, low by the black community, the black community are condemned to be more, excepting to lesbian & sexual fluid females, the black heterosexual community feel more comfortable because it’s too women so if you’re going to erase the fact that there is no double standard, when it comes to heterosexual platforms, I think that’s dangerous !
@@BeautyTesha I can name a few…. Gerren Keith Gaynor, Chris Witherspoon, Phill Wilson, karamo Brown, Darnell Moore, Danez Smith, Micheal Arceaux, B Hawk !!! girl what are you talking about? There’s so many would you like some more names !! You call yourself a lesbian, but you’re not educated about the LGBTQ community don’t tell me you’re just walking around with the label for no reason
@@BeautyTesha a transgender actress MJ Rodriguez on pose told her love story and the feedback was transphobic and homophobic to her partner ! The black community call him gay for being with her! Do you need any other names?
Why do we have to bring trans ppl into every conversation? Honest question.. respectfully, what’s the reason ?
@@tparker4458 because ppl like u question their existence !!!
🎉
It's always interesting how women today put so many standards on men to be even remotely worth their time and energy but will accept another woman, flaws and all. Begs the question of are you truly in love or just rebelling against men in general?
Because you’ll get true 50/50 with a woman.
I will not be comfortable talking about splitting up like that would never even be a conversation awww, EZEE looked so sad. 🥹
I'd have to say falling in love and then becoming best friends. I did the opposite n it was disastrous. He was trash as a partner n it destroyed our friendship. I vowed to never do that again!! I have had other male friends who fell in love with me n it sucked bc I didn't feel the same. They were always trying to pressure me to just see how things would go, n try to convince me that we could just go back to being friends if it didn't work out. Eventually, me constantly turning them down, caused them to hate me. Two have since passed but the 3rd guy still won't speak to me all these years later. With him, it was like ur situation with Danny. I was supposed to go over to his house to spend the weekend while his folks were out of town. I felt uneasy about it bc he had expressed his feelings of love for me. The more I thought about it, the more I felt that something would happen if I went, n not on my part, if u get my drift. He would always be at my house, so he was popping up at my house every day n calling all day, every day. I left n had gone to a cousin's house to stay the weekend. Went to the club one night n saw him, so I tried to go to him to apologize n explain y I didn't come over. He gave me a look like, I'll kill u. I hate u. Get out of my face. That was my last communication with him. That was when I said that men n women can't be friends. It sucks!!