+Thooorin Fuck you thorin, can't you just answer like a normal person? The guy wasn't criticizing or saying that this ruined the video, he just commented. "Let's just focus on that"...
+Ben Ainsworth Just give Devil time, you saw how long it took for Dennis to finally fit into fnatic. He went from deadweight to often top fraggingin about 5 months.
If anyone thought it was to long and didn't watch. TL;DW - Spoilers In Game Leader - Ex6tenz AWPer - kennyS Support - NBK- Lurker - Shox (Says Happy wouldn't be terrible, but shox is better in his opinion) Entry Fragger - Apex Sidepoint; he mentions he want's Shox and kennyS on a team, cause they've never been a succesful team together, and is curious on how it would be.
+Scott Mescudi A few people have started to mention scream started spraying more and working on his fundamentals. This is just hearsay but take it as you still.
+jnzzz Lol KQLY VAC BAN NO SrSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY
+Thooorin but wasn't the 'package deal' term used by yourself on the topic of that last french shuffle? Nice video and good coverage on particularly that fact we haven't recently had chance to see X6 pilot a solid core of players, putting in consistent performances over an extended period of time
+Tóth Ádám I'm not sure about that cause very recently shox and kenny did a couple of videos together and they seemed perfectly at ease and it didn't look like they were being forced to like each other
This is one of your best videos, not only you suggested great picks but analyzed each role, everything made perfect sense. But maybe the reason shox and KennyS haven't played in a team is because SmithZz & shox come as a package deal. I hope they'll consider this lineup.
+Lelentos Literally he has left Titan and VeryGames so many times. Clan Mystik and Epsilon, no SmithZz. The only times he has been with SmithZz are with LDLC, the new Titan, and some times during old Titan / VG
I mean even if you could make fnatic better, do you really think that's a good idea. Really? fnatic are already a runaway best team in the world. You don't want to make in any harder for luminosity or navi do you?
So they have 4 top 10 players on the teams and Dennis is super solid. The only thing they don't have is one of the best IGLs in the world and he recently just left. Fnatic IS the Swedish dream team without GTR.
Thorin, this is starting to get more and more relevant. You have some very good insight about CS:GO teams, as what you said 9 month ago is beginning to be a reality now. Sad that ex6st doesn't want to be the coach though, he isn't willing to stop playing atm and I can understand that.
+Nitish Dobhal Casters, Vocalists in bands, etc all have headsets on or something to listen to themselves. It helps to make sure you're not stuttering or you're getting the voice and clarity that you want.
I have a perfect example of people not liking each other but still playing with one another, Neo and Taz. Taz has openly stated that he and Neo didn't get along before(idk about now) but they still play with eachother because they knew it was the best for the polish scene
when apex and Kenny went to envyus it always felt like they took away the 2 Stars away from titan...half a year later the french superteam consists of 4 Titan players....how times have changed
Arne VDD same fucking difference i'm not here to be gramatically correct you knew what i meant by flanker this is not a fucking english class nerd fuckboi
I actually realised some months ago that the 2 best french players in cs:go history ( in my opinion ), shoxie and KennyS never played together in a team. I honestly would think that Happy, NBK-, kioShiMa, shox and KennyS would be a beast team
I think you forgot to talk about Shox's relationship with Smithzz. From my understanding Shox left nV partially because Happy and NBK wanted to kick out his best friend which was Smithzz. I doubt Shox will play in a team without Smithzz to be honest. It would be sick though
shox will not go without SmithZz. And I think shox is very comfortable and happy right now with his team. I mean he has everyone he likes on his team (despite past times with Ex6TenZ).
I get you have to click the end video button but i feel your videos would be better if for your ending one-liner you looked directly into the camera. Just a suggestion, Great video as per ushe
Couldn't agree more. And if they can get kennyS back to his God Mode form, (though he's amazing now) I think they will have a very good chance to win Majors.
KennyS said I didn't wanted to be the star player. Titan used to do that and he said that it put too much pressure on him, because if he wasn't performing well, then the game was lost.
Sorry forgot Ex6stenze Coach and Analist for his greate tactical mind... Greate for those timeouts situations and helping around with pre determined tactics...
This would actually be the sickest team would love to see it. When NBK took over the IGL role for Envy and Maniac joined as coach I was hoping to see an amalgamation of their 2 minds morph into some sort of sick 'existence' (IDK how he spells his alias in game) tactical style except ended in a huge disappointment as maniac has done nothing visible and NBK has just kept the force buying shit going. At this point I would rather see this team you suggested than the current envy switch to this style as I just don't ever see it happening or working with the team in the current state (I agree happy will never fit into that style and devil lets just not say anything about him). Next french shuffle needs to trade Happy+Devil for Shox + exist but I don't see that happening unfortunately.
When envy announced that they would make a roster change I thought it could be happy and kio for shox and ex6tenz, while that might not have worked out it would have made the team thooorin suggests here
One thing that i want to be noted, might not be relevant, but tho i 100% agree with Thorin's dream roster , but i would really love if Kenny NBK and apEX GO TO G2 instead of Ex6tenz and Shox going to EnVy , to me it would be better for the movie if the weaker team and the org that supported the fallen players could actually get the tools to achieve ex6tenz dream of winning a Major of Global Offensive and finally let him retire by early 2017 and completly rekt everyone at every single analist desktop at majors :)
just want to say my french dream team before watching the video : ex6tenz igl , kennys awper, rapex entry, shox lurker, and nbk for supporter/allarounder. EDIT : HOLY SHIT OUR LISTS ARE THE SAME. GJ TH0RIN
Great video! I was wondering what are your thoughts on coaches being IGLs? could be an interesting video. Also was wondering with your hyperthetical super teams which coaches would you give them and would you make them the IGL?
Yeah but they are VERY inconsistent! They lost 16-1 to Mouz and then later they beat ExLG (SK) 2-0 in a bo3! So if EnVyUs kicked Devil who is really holding them down, and had another consistent player who gets kills (like RpK) that could really fix EnVyUs and get them back to late-2015 state when they were GOD! So yeah.. Thx for having me!
before watching: Ex6TenZ, kennyS, shox, NBK, Happy Ex6TenZ: IGL Kenny: AWPer shoxie: rifler NBK: support, helps Ex6TenZ Happy: lurker I didn't pick apEX because he didn't do well with Ex6TenZ. I didn't pick ScreaM because he really is inconsistent. Every other French people are not good.
problems are apex under ex6tenz's leadership didn't work that well last time and it's unlikely that shox plays without Smithzz, but apart from that, agreed
I also see the shox smithzz relationship as negative for the scene. In smithzz current form, its only detrimental since basically any of the the french players in g2 or envyus would make g2 better.
@Thooorin Zeus said in a vlog that KennyS has really bad confidence issues. If the game is going bad he starts to play worse and worse. We know he has the skill but if he can't get in the right mindset it doesn't matter. Hopefully we see KennyS play his best this major. (he's in my alphadraft team)
+Luka Delic No, Shox doesn't need to play with SmithzzZ, he didn't leave nV because they wanted to kick SmithzzZ, he left because he wanted to kick Happy and others didn't.
I think ex6stence playstyle is tactically teh best, but he lacks so much in terms of fragging, that he should be a coach and you should take a player in for him, who has more firepower
+Hackaz Viraz Im not sure what point you are trying to make. I would love to know, since I don't know a whole lot about the French CS scene's history, I just can't figure out what you mean. (Sincere, not sarcasm). If you can clear it up, I'd appreciate it.
i was wondering can't they have two entrys in the game like when the old envyus lineup had shox and kio? so im thinking if this could be the best super team rn? shox (igl/second awp), kennys (awp), apex ( first entry), nbk (support), scream (second entry). Tell me your thoughts guys?
how do you feel about putting ex6 in the coach/igl role and switching him out for some more firepower? Even though he has improved his fragging I think he won't have the same level as in G2
I think that it is a good French team, just I still like if it was called Envyus still, idk, it's a good name, I think it has more of a ring to it than Titan or G2
+Max Wenke internesting, the majority of people think that tian is by far the coolest logo and name of all of csgo history, unfortunate the org itself was so unlucky with getting the worse half and having a cheater etc
thorin dont you think it would be better to have existence as a out of game leader a bit like starix is for luminosity and bring another support/ fragger? Or would that conflict with his leading style do you think?
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2:09 "The only tournament envyus won on this períod was the global e-SPORTS club which do not have either fnatic, luminosity or envyus" wait wut
+sethgt3 He probably means NaVi, but yeah :-)
lol
+sethgt3 Yeah, totally impossible to guess what I might have meant. Let's just only focus on that.
+Thooorin well, i understood what do you meant.
+Thooorin Fuck you thorin, can't you just answer like a normal person? The guy wasn't criticizing or saying that this ruined the video, he just commented. "Let's just focus on that"...
2:15 he wanted to say navi..
+Plopi NO ENVYUS
soort witte smurf what?
+Plopi NO ENVYUS!
navi
I fcking want to see this french super-team asap
ca serai ouf
I bet you would, Shox.
-devil +Thorin
+Ben Ainsworth Just give Devil time, you saw how long it took for Dennis to finally fit into fnatic. He went from deadweight to often top fraggingin about 5 months.
+Nvoo did you rly see him at the start. fnatic played luminosity online on inferno and T side he got 1 frag.
If anyone thought it was to long and didn't watch.
TL;DW - Spoilers
In Game Leader - Ex6tenz
AWPer - kennyS
Support - NBK-
Lurker - Shox (Says Happy wouldn't be terrible, but shox is better in his opinion)
Entry Fragger - Apex
Sidepoint; he mentions he want's Shox and kennyS on a team, cause they've never been a succesful team together, and is curious on how it would be.
nt
NO.FUCKING.WAY.
THORIN DOESNT WEAR HIS COAT.
+Michael Feldman OMG
+Michael Feldman Must be getting close to summer :)
Plot twist, the coat is under the envy shirt
He hasn't been for a few videos now.
Scream has definitely started to step up recently
+Gage Rosenthal wut?
+Scott Mescudi A few people have started to mention scream started spraying more and working on his fundamentals. This is just hearsay but take it as you still.
+Gage Rosenthal -everyone from 2013 onwards
Thooorin Good point.
+Thooorin apEX , kennyS , Shox , Ex6tenz, Scream What do you think??
X6 IGL, Kenny AWP/Star, NBK support, Shox lurk, Apex entry
+VersatileNeb Agree so much.
Spoilers
***** Don't read the comments then....
J K
+VersatileNeb apex hmm.. hmm... hmm..
Smitzzz, Devil, KQLY, Xp3 and Kioshima ;)
+jnzzz for a tier 3 team yes.
+NaNE lmaoooooooo
+jnzzz Don't forget azk
+jnzzz Lol KQLY VAC BAN NO SrSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY NO SRSLY
+jnzzz -devil +AZK?
He forgot about the smithz and shox relationship where they want to stay on the same team.
+VimGamer and it ruins almost fucking everying
+VimGamer the package deal was kennyS and apex, not shox and smithzz
+VimGamer I didn't forget. I just know more about the French scene than what is said publicly.
+Thooorin but wasn't the 'package deal' term used by yourself on the topic of that last french shuffle?
Nice video and good coverage on particularly that fact we haven't recently had chance to see X6 pilot a solid core of players, putting in consistent performances over an extended period of time
Thooorin Sorry, I just took it from what you said on another video.....
Would a 4th relationship be that Shox and Smithzz come as a package ?
I think that shox doesnt want to play with kenny.
+Tóth Ádám I'm not sure about that cause very recently shox and kenny did a couple of videos together and they seemed perfectly at ease and it didn't look like they were being forced to like each other
scream, kio, rpk ,kqly, and devil
NoKappa
doubtful
Rpk is actually decent though.
+M. Toast Kio was also quite good until the role swaps on him
+kippers12isOG Kio is still good, at least better than Devil. idk why they switched him out
kippers12isOG agreed
This is one of your best videos, not only you suggested great picks but analyzed each role, everything made perfect sense. But maybe the reason shox and KennyS haven't played in a team is because SmithZz & shox come as a package deal. I hope they'll consider this lineup.
You didn't address the fact that Shoxie won't play without Smithzzz. Look at all of his roster moves, he always sticks with him.
+Lelentos Literally he has left Titan and VeryGames so many times. Clan Mystik and Epsilon, no SmithZz. The only times he has been with SmithZz are with LDLC, the new Titan, and some times during old Titan / VG
Now do this with Sweden
Fnatic
+epickotred done
I mean even if you could make fnatic better, do you really think that's a good idea. Really? fnatic are already a runaway best team in the world. You don't want to make in any harder for luminosity or navi do you?
So they have 4 top 10 players on the teams and Dennis is super solid. The only thing they don't have is one of the best IGLs in the world and he recently just left. Fnatic IS the Swedish dream team without GTR.
+Markus Jacalne yup
Thorin, this is starting to get more and more relevant. You have some very good insight about CS:GO teams, as what you said 9 month ago is beginning to be a reality now. Sad that ex6st doesn't want to be the coach though, he isn't willing to stop playing atm and I can understand that.
That would actually be a fucking epic team :D
i can never understand why thorin wears a headphone during his talks.
+Nitish Dobhal Casters, Vocalists in bands, etc all have headsets on or something to listen to themselves. It helps to make sure you're not stuttering or you're getting the voice and clarity that you want.
Love your videos and analysis +thooorin Always pumped to see you upload new videos!
Great insight on the relationship between the players!
Well this year the french super team comes Shox, KennyS, Apex, NBK, Bodyy. After major thats what i was told.
Source s1mple on a live stream
I have a perfect example of people not liking each other but still playing with one another, Neo and Taz. Taz has openly stated that he and Neo didn't get along before(idk about now) but they still play with eachother because they knew it was the best for the polish scene
i'm excited to see how rpk redevelops...
hope thorin will pick him next time for a french dream team...
Oh my lord, for the first time, I 100% agree with you
when apex and Kenny went to envyus it always felt like they took away the 2 Stars away from titan...half a year later the french superteam consists of 4 Titan players....how times have changed
LOL
"i can see why happy seems like he is baiting all the time, because he is baiting all the time."
Alex Yang lol
The guess was pretty good tbh. only bodyy instead of ex6tence.
J. Schwandi Smithzz as coach
J. Schwandi to be fair, bodyy was almost unheard of then.
My personal superteam:
Coach - Ex6TenZ
Flanker - Happy
Sniper - kennyS
Entry - shoxie
Rifler - ScreaM
Support - NBK
Since when has "flanker" been a role?
RoZa
ask get_right, one of the greatest cs players in the world. Or Snax, or Happy himself
+Niczer0 It's called lurker not flanker
Arne VDD
same fucking difference i'm not here to be gramatically correct you knew what i meant by flanker this is not a fucking english class nerd fuckboi
+Niczer0 lol chill
that shirt is legendary
I actually realised some months ago that the 2 best french players in cs:go history ( in my opinion ), shoxie and KennyS never played together in a team. I honestly would think that Happy, NBK-, kioShiMa, shox and KennyS would be a beast team
+dojczman totally agreed
+dojczman Happy, ScreaM, kioShiMa, shox and KennyS
And that would have been the current envy team if the didn't have the shox and smithz are a package and kenny and apex package thing
I think you forgot to talk about Shox's relationship with Smithzz. From my understanding Shox left nV partially because Happy and NBK wanted to kick out his best friend which was Smithzz. I doubt Shox will play in a team without Smithzz to be honest. It would be sick though
If you go through all thooorin's videos, you can see the fascinating progression of his beard.
Okay Thorin I am absolutely digging the new attire you've been wearing the last couple of vids
It's sexy
shox will not go without SmithZz. And I think shox is very comfortable and happy right now with his team. I mean he has everyone he likes on his team (despite past times with Ex6TenZ).
Thorin! You finally turned your central heating on!!
First time i have fully agreed with Thoorins ideas.
I like the themed outfits recently
I like Cs go
i completely agree huh. igl is an obvious pick, awp also, nbk is godlike, shox is a great player overall and rapex fits well.
I get you have to click the end video button but i feel your videos would be better if for your ending one-liner you looked directly into the camera. Just a suggestion, Great video as per ushe
Couldn't agree more. And if they can get kennyS back to his God Mode form, (though he's amazing now) I think they will have a very good chance to win Majors.
KennyS said I didn't wanted to be the star player. Titan used to do that and he said that it put too much pressure on him, because if he wasn't performing well, then the game was lost.
Sorry forgot Ex6stenze Coach and Analist for his greate tactical mind... Greate for those timeouts situations and helping around with pre determined tactics...
This would actually be the sickest team would love to see it. When NBK took over the IGL role for Envy and Maniac joined as coach I was hoping to see an amalgamation of their 2 minds morph into some sort of sick 'existence' (IDK how he spells his alias in game) tactical style except ended in a huge disappointment as maniac has done nothing visible and NBK has just kept the force buying shit going. At this point I would rather see this team you suggested than the current envy switch to this style as I just don't ever see it happening or working with the team in the current state (I agree happy will never fit into that style and devil lets just not say anything about him). Next french shuffle needs to trade Happy+Devil for Shox + exist but I don't see that happening unfortunately.
Ex6TenZ - IGL
KennyS - Awper
NBK - Support
shox - Lurker
apEX - Entry
When envy announced that they would make a roster change I thought it could be happy and kio for shox and ex6tenz, while that might not have worked out it would have made the team thooorin suggests here
One thing that i want to be noted, might not be relevant, but tho i 100% agree with Thorin's dream roster , but i would really love if Kenny NBK and apEX GO TO G2 instead of Ex6tenz and Shox going to EnVy , to me it would be better for the movie if the weaker team and the org that supported the fallen players could actually get the tools to achieve ex6tenz dream of winning a Major of Global Offensive and finally let him retire by early 2017 and completly rekt everyone at every single analist desktop at majors :)
+juanme555 and they could all get baller ass drawing of themselves
"better for the movie" ARE ESPORTS SCRIPTED?!!??!?111
Thorin is completely correct +1 totally this team its TOP1 for sure
just want to say my french dream team before watching the video :
ex6tenz igl , kennys awper, rapex entry, shox lurker, and nbk for supporter/allarounder.
EDIT : HOLY SHIT OUR LISTS ARE THE SAME. GJ TH0RIN
Great video! I was wondering what are your thoughts on coaches being IGLs? could be an interesting video. Also was wondering with your hyperthetical super teams which coaches would you give them and would you make them the IGL?
make it happen ! great vid thorin :))
G2 is looking better than envy right now.
Yeah but they are VERY inconsistent! They lost 16-1 to Mouz and then later they beat ExLG (SK) 2-0 in a bo3! So if EnVyUs kicked Devil who is really holding them down, and had another consistent player who gets kills (like RpK) that could really fix EnVyUs and get them back to late-2015 state when they were GOD! So yeah.. Thx for having me!
Sure
It would be great if you made a video building a 1.6 international dream-team.
2:08 the only tournament envyus won was one that had no fnatic, no luminosity, no envyus? :D
+Crank i think he meant no Na'Vi
+ZehAverageGamer ikr, still funny
2:15 envyus only won gameshow which had no fnatic no ENVYUS and no luminosity :>
+JustOP lol yeah, think he meant to say navi
before watching: Ex6TenZ, kennyS, shox, NBK, Happy
Ex6TenZ: IGL
Kenny: AWPer
shoxie: rifler
NBK: support, helps Ex6TenZ
Happy: lurker
I didn't pick apEX because he didn't do well with Ex6TenZ. I didn't pick ScreaM because he really is inconsistent. Every other French people are not good.
problems are apex under ex6tenz's leadership didn't work that well last time and it's unlikely that shox plays without Smithzz, but apart from that, agreed
dat nV shirt FailFish
+ZehAverageGamer it's happy's one when he get deagle ace.
Shox and kennyS have that youtube channel together so french dream team confirmed Kappa
Lmfao. We can dream.
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It could be a pretty awesome team, but if it's possible a pick Happy to lurk :D
Thorin's French accent xD Spot on mate lmao
I also see the shox smithzz relationship as negative for the scene. In smithzz current form, its only detrimental since basically any of the the french players in g2 or envyus would make g2 better.
maniac would be better than smithzz lol
+TJ Bell highly doubt it
+Enderbacon16 Smithz is now on pasha level lol
I thought you would pick these 5 before even watching it, i agree. team would be Kreygasm.
Super French Team: KennyS, apEx, NBK, x6tence, and shox.
x6entence as coach and happy as igl imo
Ex6TenZ isn't french
+Andrew ex6tenz is fragging like a beast what are you talking about?
I would basically keep the same envyus team but add shox instead of devil
shox said he isn't playing without Smithzz on his team because they are best friends.
Well,my thoughts of the French CSGO team roster is the same thing with +Thooorin though
@Thooorin Zeus said in a vlog that KennyS has really bad confidence issues. If the game is going bad he starts to play worse and worse. We know he has the skill but if he can't get in the right mindset it doesn't matter. Hopefully we see KennyS play his best this major. (he's in my alphadraft team)
That's a fairly well known fact. I think Thooorin had mentioned it once before.
Skip thoorin though just get to the main part.
*Spoilers*
Existence - IGL
KennyS - Star/Awper
NBK - support
shox - lurker
apex - entry Fragger
good luck having a team with shox and no smithz
+Luka Delic shox and smithzz think they are this crazy good duo like f0rest and get_right, but they really aren't.
+JohnnySkeletman it's more like show is best friends with smiths and always wants to play with him
+Luka Delic Shox needs to ditch SmithZz if he wants to win majors.
+Luka Delic No, Shox doesn't need to play with SmithzzZ, he didn't leave nV because they wanted to kick SmithzzZ, he left because he wanted to kick Happy and others didn't.
Totally agree with you about EnVyUs
The Super-Team videos are always good make more pls and YNK new by the numbers host confirm?
He won't confirm it until next week.
I think ex6stence playstyle is tactically teh best, but he lacks so much in terms of fragging, that he should be a coach and you should take a player in for him, who has more firepower
That means that would left G2 with Scream, Happy, Smithzz, Devil/kio and RPK.... this team would suck so much...
+Franciskid Kinda the point though. The other team isn't supposed to be good, just the one world powerhouse team.
+TwoSt3pProductions before LDLC they werent at the same team
+Hackaz Viraz Im not sure what point you are trying to make. I would love to know, since I don't know a whole lot about the French CS scene's history, I just can't figure out what you mean. (Sincere, not sarcasm). If you can clear it up, I'd appreciate it.
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Thorin's french accent impersonation sounds like Ali G
I rly want ex6 to play with happy as they did in the past in redLine
Happy, KennyS, Kioshima, NBK and Shoxie
IGL: EX6 / SUPPORT: RPK - / LURKER: SHOX / ENTRY: APEX / AWP: KENNYS
i was wondering can't they have two entrys in the game like when the old envyus lineup had shox and kio? so im thinking if this could be the best super team rn? shox (igl/second awp), kennys (awp), apex ( first entry), nbk (support), scream (second entry). Tell me your thoughts guys?
how do you feel about putting ex6 in the coach/igl role and switching him out for some more firepower? Even though he has improved his fragging I think he won't have the same level as in G2
I think that it is a good French team, just I still like if it was called Envyus still, idk, it's a good name, I think it has more of a ring to it than Titan or G2
+Max Wenke internesting, the majority of people think that tian is by far the coolest logo and name of all of csgo history, unfortunate the org itself was so unlucky with getting the worse half and having a cheater etc
thanks mate couldnt agree more
2:08, nV won a tournament without nV in it? That's pretty impressive
You seem to have forgotten that Shox and Smithz is a package deal
Envyus: +Shox +Smithzz + Kioshima
G2: + KennyS + Apex
There, fixed it for you
0:35 the wink for G2 :D
any inside info ?
Sic!!!But mine is...KennyS - AwperKQLY - 2nd Awper (fuck his ban)...NBK - Support / IGL / LurkerapEX - entry fraggerScreaM - headshot machine (supppirt or entry fragger)...What do u think???
Does that envyus jersey have the best French IGL's name on it?
Nvm Ex6tenz haven't played for them
Q: What do you call a French team coming to defeat the Swedish and Brazillian teams at the MLG Major?
A: A Mirage
+LemonTime CS:GO Gaming & more! ba dum thsssss
WHat about Devil? He seemed pretty good on train vs NAVI
well, if u do that with Sweden, gotta have a 10man team minimum.
video starts at 00:30
+Sven Proud you mean video ends at 00.30
+Sven Proud Wait, you were that SJW swede that tweeted at Thorin! BURN HIM!
KennyS, Shox, nbk, apex and Scream. Extenct as coach.
thorin dont you think it would be better to have existence as a out of game leader a bit like starix is for luminosity and bring another support/ fragger? Or would that conflict with his leading style do you think?
Starix is coach for navi 😂
holy shit he actually called 4 out of 5 damn!
this French accent is fucking glorious
I agree that team would be fuckin awesome.
Hey Thooorin, what did you think of your time at Counterpit Season 2. Were you reeeeeeeadddyyea?
But Happy is the only IGL that can make FNATIC look like EchoFox. (I don't remember the event, but they beat them like 16-2 on de_cache)
+TomasKali Titan did that too. 16 - 1 if I recall correctly.
Sure but it was a Bo3 and I am sure they pummeled them on first map too.
So was the Titan game. They won 2 - 0
Next Vlog about problems in Virtus.Pro pls. And pls create a polish super team.
love the jerseys