personally, the 2016-2019 Audi s5 is one of my absolute favourite cars being well balanced between sportiness, comfort and practicality, The new TDI s5 is a good car but for me the previous generation has my heart, I beleieve s models (except "SQ" maybe) have to be petrol, or at least hybrid petrol but not TDI
Hey, I buyed the new S5. The Argument with the A5 50 TDI triggered me , so i configured the A5 50 tdi exactly like my S5. Every single upgrade is way more expensive in A Version so - A5 - 90780€ S5 - 93500. Good 3000€ for round about 80HP more and a S Badge - Mild Hybrid and second Charger (electric). its not such the great Deal you think it is. I think the S5 is the better Deal instead of the 50 TDI. The argument is... why you buy a 50Tdi instead of the S5 for only 3000€ on top.
Amplitude Studios Well, I just did the same exercise and here in Switzerland, the S5 ended up being 7000.- more expensive with the same options (Cars are more expensive over here) for just over 60HP (Not 80 as you wrote, 286 vs 347), it doesn’t make sense to me. I’m not against turbo Diesel engines, I’m against a turbo Diesel engine on an S5 😐
@@WiZe1972 I bought the S5 - so i round the HP up for my inner freedom :D . Diesel / petrol .. the little "how dare you" turns everything in a big challange. I think Audi is not 100% happy too.
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Excellent review with great questions posed & sensible conclusions re: S5 v A5 50TDI. Great to see you back reviewing. More of these please (if possible).
I really like the A5/S5 facelift, it changed the car and made it look really aggressive yet classy. The TDI isn’t a bad idea, especially not in the S4, but in my opinion the S5 should’ve at least had an option for a TFSI. So the sporty guys get the TFSI and the ones that like a sleek shape but want good fuel economy go for diesel. As always great video and great way to pass 25 minutes in this current situation, stay safe! And nice of you to mention Audittsquattro - he’s an IG legend
I think they should call it A5 Competition Wize u are one of my reason why I buy an s5 ( 2018 ) thank you for that ! I like your videos !!! Greets from Germany
@@WiZe1972 yes iam in Love with this car 😄 It’s stupid that u can only get a diesel S5 in Europe, I have driven the facelift version of the A5 , and I liked the new Look 😍 the Grill is so sexy and the Welcome lights too ! 😂 overhaul a really beautiful facelift !! BUT S5 and Diesel ... nah... Fake exhaust ?!! Come on.... that’s so stupid, I think that is the reason why I would never love to have a diesel S5 because of the fake exhaust... It’s better to buy a A5 S line 50 tfsi or TDI I think the next one will be hybrid :( but still better than diesel :) Drive carefully with your RS5 !! And have fun !!! Wish you all the best !!!
They first did this with the 2020 S6 Avant now they doing it on the S5. I am an audi follower but I'm disappointed in Audi. This is not S5, it's just an A5 Sline dressed in S brand.
Definitely prefer the previous generation S5. Engine sound reminds me of T-34 tank from outside... prefer the 3.0 V6- Benzine sound. Not that keen on new dash layout, and those fake exhausts... pointless. But as you say, still a good car. I tend to agree with you about having a powerful car as a daily. Perhaps you should get a Cayman GTS 4.0 as you sports car. Thanks for your video. Glad you are well.
I'm so happy with my 2018 S5 and I would love to buy another one before the production ends. But NOT with a Diesel engine !!! It#s just stupid what Audi has done with the S Models. But I still have a bit hope that the TFSI will come back, like they did it with the Cabrio.
No idea why u make such drama about this, you want petrol engine with sound get a RS you want a performance car with great connsumption get a S, for me the TDI engine is perfect
Audi created the S trim as the sporty versions of the A models, RS being the pinnacle. Diesel engines have never been advertised as being sporty and don't get me started on the fake exhausts situation. I respect all opinions but personally, if I want a diesel, I take a 50TDI with sline and save some money for a stage 1
WIZE even you admitted diesels can be insane when u talk about performance, these cars are crazy quick with tons of torque. So its still only about the sound and the exhaust. I own an 55TDI allroad and the car is scary
@@Unr3aLpm Exactly! Nothing wrong with diesel engines being full of power and torque, in my personal opinion, its just doesn't make sense to replace the 6 cylinders petrol engines in the S4/5. When we see that Audi is about to put back the petrol V8 in the European SQ7/8, i guess they understood
@@WiZe1972 Those also sound shit due to the OPF. Nothing better than this S5 anymore. Diesels have DPF, modern petrols have OPF. Just compare the sound of the American RSQ8 to the European RSQ8. You'll be shocked. American one doesn't have OPF. I guess SQ8 is gonna get an OPF soon too, so enjoy while you can.
Awesome video 👍 Omg, the engine sound is like common diesel car 🫣 And the exhaust sound, and the fake pipes, what..😮 I have a 2018 S5 and you where right about everything 🫡
As an S5 2017 Sportback owner the switch to diesel really has killed the sporty sound such a massive shame. No theatre or excitement it’s like driving with ear plugs in 👎. I’m totally on board with your TDI50 comments
the 3.0 TDI's used in the S-class audis are all using a sound booster in the exhaust. SQ5 TDI, S5 TDI, S6 TDI, S7 TDI. They all have a speaker in the exhaust.
Am absolutely on the same page in regards to the exhausts, why would have 4 pipes when only two are real?!! It reminds me of when people would stick turbo stickers on or chrome exhaust extensions to give they car a more sporty look lol I think it would have been better with two pipes one on each side.
I have a B9 S4 in Navarra blue. A truly fantastic car all round. How an earth could I, or would I, then buy a diesel with fake exhausts...Audi have made such a mistake. Look at the discounts being offered!
@@rexile1986 yes in the us they have the regular petrol engines. Im guessing because of all the strict bullshit emission regulations in Europe etc that's why over there and the uk its diesel
@@WiZe1972 I'm in the UK and those fake exhausts (and diesal only) was a deal breaker for me. I went with the A5 45 TFSI [no 50 TDI in UK] which I'm still waiting for delivery *sigh* ~Jul'22 *bigger sigh*. An extra £20K for the RS5 for another 2sec to 100kph was not worth it...and I didn't have an extra £20K. PS. I miss the scroll wheel (I have in my current 2019 A5) but I think Audi are 'guiding' people into relying on using voice commands more and more. That being safer, especially as governments make using phone touchscreens illegal - it's only going to be a matter of time ALL touchscreens will be illegal.
Im a little surprised by your comment where you said 'no emotion no sound' so isn't this what a Tesla is I seem to remember you were very taken with the thought of EV ownership. I have driven the S7 and enjoyed the car very much. Its no RS but not many cars can match the RS7 for thrills. It is though a great GT car. So much torque and therfore flexibility. I get you are trying to hold on to the petrol feeling of the old car but this S5 makes so much sense. Its still one of the best looking shapes on the road and goes like it. Don't compare it to a petrol engine just enjoy it for what it is. Stay safe my friend.
Gerald Holley On a Tesla, being an EV, you expect no sound, or at least, a different sound. What bothers me here is that historically, S models stands for sporty variants of an A model and I don’t feel it driving the S5. I agree with you that this engine makes more sense in the S5 rather than the S6/7 but, should I buy a diesel, I would go with the A5 50TDI and trim it full Sline and S sport seats
@@FF-KillThemAlll After market exhaust doesn't do anything with these diesel engines. They just sound shit. I have a BMW 435d xdrive with 390bhp. It's so easy to drive, is stupidly fast, corners really well. It does everything it's amazing. But it sounds like shit. If they did the 440i with xdrive in the UK I would buy one tomorrow. But if you aren't bothered about sound these fast diesels are amazing.
I have driven both S6 and S5 TDI, and neither of them aroused any desire for ownership... Those fake exhaust tips and the exhaust sounds from the speakers don't ignite me at all... And in addition, the design has taken a real leap backwards.
nice video but definitively I prefer your RS5; the MMI touch screen is a good evolution and it is the tendency of the market; it is good to have a complete review of a diesel version; could be a good daily with a reasonable consumption; good compromise between performance and consumption
I can’t understand why the hell they did this. I certainly wouldn’t buy one. Currently drive a Golf R and I happen to like the old S5, but I’ll be looking at the RS3 as an upgrade for sure - as the RS5 is out of my budget. I’d much rather have an M340i than this new S5. Why give a petrol S5 to America and give us this excuse for one instead?!
I will never turn my back or give up on audi diesel.every car maker do some foolishness at some point.diesel engine are very good and reliable engines and audi does a very good job. AUDI should do only diesel and diesel hybrid along with pure electric.
This is what nobody seems to get here in the comments. V6 3.0 TDI is a robust and reliable engine. Here in my country, a lot of people call the TFSI engines TFoSi. Fos means shit in my language. Tells a lot about these oil eating petrol engines that everyone seems to going crazy about here. Just wait until they see the first service bill.
Ok, it's not emotional as the S5 with the petrol engine. Sound, revs and so on. I agree. But the Diesel S5 got 700 Nm of torque. It's a monstrous value! In many situations this S5 will be for sure faster than the one with sparks. I guess on short distances, i.g. during overtaking, it could be sometimes even quicker than a RS5 which has "only" 600 Nm. It depends on shifting, as the Diesel is notoriously way more elastic. In the matter of fact, with the tdi you don't perceive the acceleration inside the vehicle, because it does not rev up as the petrol engine. But the boost is there and is really strong. The petrol engine supremacy comes out if you drive constantly at high revs. This happens on a track; it's not a common driver condition on usual roads. Besides, today is the Diesel engine more eco-fiendly than the petrol engine: more efficient, less CO2. NOx and particulate are not a big issue any more. Ok, just for fun the petrol engine may be better.
Just straight pipe and and it's gonna sound brutal. It's a shame it's illegal in my country. I'd have gutted my B8 3.0 TDI long time ago if it was legal :(
TFSI16V S5 had a combined 11.4l/100km. RS5 is at 12.3l/100km but didn’t really push that hard because I didn’t want to destroy the winter tires... Now it’s on forced hibernation... I’ll explain in a next video
But why go for an S model even before they equipped them with 3.0 tdi? It's just a money grab from Audi. You can buy a tfsi car and modify it for far less. Are we just after the S branding or?
@@abadam6649 You won't get the same results for the 2.0 tfsi as the 3.0 tdi as it has a different engine. You should look at your local shops and what they offer. It really differs from country to country. The good thing about the 3.0tdi + zf8 speed I was talking about is that the 272hp version of the car can get to 320hp with just a simple tune and no added parts.
I was so close to buying one this week , but I couldn’t look past the sound speaker at the back of the car and the fake tips . Absolutely ruins the car so I walk away
@@WiZe1972 Diesel and S doesnt seem right yes and fake exhaust is bad but not so bad… how much difference in terms of acceleratio will i feel between these 2 cars?
Audi‘s not at fault there tho, alot of countries, including germany, have retarded noise laws that force car manufacturers to do this. Same as with downsizing and adblue addition in most cars.
Yeah thats the case in many many many todays cars :) Sucks, but it can be turned off. And for diesel car, these S5s can make quite a good sound with proper exhaust.
Im actually very disappointed watching this video Audi have made a huge mistake, you dont buy an S model for a diesel engine i would just buy an A5 tdi instead, and the fake pipes why even bother
I agree, their diesel line ups for sedans/hatches are a disappointment in general. We only get S7 TDI in my country and while its not bad I don't see it as a true S model like the one in the US with 2.9 bi turbo. It just seems to me a gimmick to sell more expensive trims and/or get rid of diesel engines by slapping S badges on them before they stop producing them completely
I had an Audi S5. I could only drive 360 km with a full tank. How could I drive away with him? but this diesel engine is great. I can neither drive long distances either I get more power. 347 hp and 700 nM. Just amazing.
The sound is lackluster :( V8 petrol is definitely the way to go. Why would you spend this much to save a bit of fuel and less quality sound? The target audience for S5 isn't for a diesel... I personally believe.
Cud się stał, że powietrze nie było morowe akurat tylko w Szwajcarii! Skoro okradli nas z pieniędzy, podczas tych kilku wieków "okupacji" finansowej, to mogą te istotki, co ten los nam zgotowały, swobodnie i bezpiecznie tam się przemieszczać! 🤣😂
@@Gez492 Audi mount the engine in a transverse manner across the front axle. They have tried to engineer around this issue. Hence the perfectly reasonable question as to does it understeer. Prick.
Actually this is a brilliant sales move from Audi. People on the internet say the petrol is better, the petrol sounds good, but they don't actually would buy or have bought the s5 petrol. The people who can actually afford this car like the diesel engine because they wanted an a5 that looks more sporty, has a little more power and also has decent fuel consumption for high mileage they drive. In 2-3 years you will see on the streets more diesels than petrol s5. Also, power wise, the performance is the same, so no complain if you don't hear the engine. If someone wants performance and feel and sound they will go all the way to rs5.
Audi made a horrendous mistake by turning the S5 into a diesel. Fake exhausts too? I wont go anywhere near it. They've RUINED the car. In fact, its even slower than the previous model...its 0-62 is 4.9 vs the previous petrol ones 4.7 secs. Garbage, what the hell have Audi done.
I have an S5 the Real S5 2018, amazing car and the sound of the 3.0lt V6 Petrol Engine is what it is all about, The heart and soul of an S5
Me too! Not many people know It actually shares the engine with a Porsche!
@@georgedesouza8937 RS5 has 2.9 TFSI engine from Porsche, not S5. I was owner of S5 2018, so I was curious about it.
I have owned the Coupe version now for 2 months and have to say im really pleased with it. 0-60 in 4.6 seconds and can get 50 mpg on a motorway !!!
personally, the 2016-2019 Audi s5 is one of my absolute favourite cars being well balanced between sportiness, comfort and practicality, The new TDI s5 is a good car but for me the previous generation has my heart, I beleieve s models (except "SQ" maybe) have to be petrol, or at least hybrid petrol but not TDI
totally agree with you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pre-facelift R/S4 and R/S5 look much better than these...
Thank you for being honest with your feedbacks.
Adam Chen Thanks for watching 😊
Audi 2020 lineup is a great reason to buy a 2018 second hand V6 🙌
Hey, I buyed the new S5. The Argument with the A5 50 TDI triggered me , so i configured the A5 50 tdi exactly like my S5. Every single upgrade is way more expensive in A Version so - A5 - 90780€ S5 - 93500.
Good 3000€ for round about 80HP more and a S Badge - Mild Hybrid and second Charger (electric). its not such the great Deal you think it is. I think the S5 is the better Deal instead of the 50 TDI. The argument is... why you buy a 50Tdi instead of the S5 for only 3000€ on top.
Amplitude Studios Well, I just did the same exercise and here in Switzerland, the S5 ended up being 7000.- more expensive with the same options (Cars are more expensive over here) for just over 60HP (Not 80 as you wrote, 286 vs 347), it doesn’t make sense to me. I’m not against turbo Diesel engines, I’m against a turbo Diesel engine on an S5 😐
@@WiZe1972 I bought the S5 - so i round the HP up for my inner freedom :D . Diesel / petrol .. the little "how dare you" turns everything in a big challange. I think Audi is not 100% happy too.
You bought a VW GOLF disel basically...
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Good info, do you maybe know for how much you can change exhausts to get 4 real ones?
Excellent review with great questions posed & sensible conclusions re: S5 v A5 50TDI. Great to see you back reviewing. More of these please (if possible).
I really like the A5/S5 facelift, it changed the car and made it look really aggressive yet classy. The TDI isn’t a bad idea, especially not in the S4, but in my opinion the S5 should’ve at least had an option for a TFSI. So the sporty guys get the TFSI and the ones that like a sleek shape but want good fuel economy go for diesel.
As always great video and great way to pass 25 minutes in this current situation, stay safe! And nice of you to mention Audittsquattro - he’s an IG legend
or Audi could make the 3.0 V6 Turbodiesel engine more powerful by making it have over 400hp
Turnip Gaming97 this would’ve been good for the S6, S7.
@@danI43541 oh I'd either of them and do an ECU tune to make it have 500hp to 600hp
I think they should call it A5 Competition
Wize u are one of my reason why I buy an s5 ( 2018 ) thank you for that !
I like your videos !!! Greets from Germany
I’m honored! You can’t go wrong with the S5 😊
@@WiZe1972 yes iam in Love with this car 😄
It’s stupid that u can only get a diesel S5 in Europe, I have driven the facelift version of the A5 , and I liked the new Look 😍 the Grill is so sexy and the Welcome lights too ! 😂 overhaul a really beautiful facelift !! BUT S5 and Diesel ... nah... Fake exhaust ?!! Come on.... that’s so stupid, I think that is the reason why I would never love to have a diesel S5 because of the fake exhaust...
It’s better to buy a A5 S line 50 tfsi or TDI
I think the next one will be hybrid :( but still better than diesel :)
Drive carefully with your RS5 !! And have fun !!!
Wish you all the best !!!
Totally prefer the touchscreen. I love it on my Etron
ShermanMR2 Same here!
They first did this with the 2020 S6 Avant now they doing it on the S5. I am an audi follower but I'm disappointed in Audi. This is not S5, it's just an A5 Sline dressed in S brand.
Definitely prefer the previous generation S5. Engine sound reminds me of T-34 tank from outside... prefer the 3.0 V6- Benzine sound. Not that keen on new dash layout, and those fake exhausts... pointless. But as you say, still a good car. I tend to agree with you about having a powerful car as a daily. Perhaps you should get a Cayman GTS 4.0 as you sports car. Thanks for your video. Glad you are well.
Jon You read through my mind 😉
In American this car still has a petrol engine. Its only diesel in Europe.
That’s a relief. I was thinking of going with a 2020 bmw m340i. If I had to worry about fake exhaust pipes
I'm so happy with my 2018 S5 and I would love to buy another one before the production ends. But NOT with a Diesel engine !!! It#s just stupid what Audi has done with the S Models. But I still have a bit hope that the TFSI will come back, like they did it with the Cabrio.
Kai Ziehl Keep it! I’ve been fool to sell mine last year... I think next gen will be hybrid or full EV; always better than diesel... 😊
No idea why u make such drama about this, you want petrol engine with sound get a RS you want a performance car with great connsumption get a S, for me the TDI engine is perfect
Audi created the S trim as the sporty versions of the A models, RS being the pinnacle. Diesel engines have never been advertised as being sporty and don't get me started on the fake exhausts situation. I respect all opinions but personally, if I want a diesel, I take a 50TDI with sline and save some money for a stage 1
WIZE even you admitted diesels can be insane when u talk about performance, these cars are crazy quick with tons of torque. So its still only about the sound and the exhaust. I own an 55TDI allroad and the car is scary
@@Unr3aLpm Exactly! Nothing wrong with diesel engines being full of power and torque, in my personal opinion, its just doesn't make sense to replace the 6 cylinders petrol engines in the S4/5. When we see that Audi is about to put back the petrol V8 in the European SQ7/8, i guess they understood
@@WiZe1972 Those also sound shit due to the OPF. Nothing better than this S5 anymore. Diesels have DPF, modern petrols have OPF. Just compare the sound of the American RSQ8 to the European RSQ8. You'll be shocked. American one doesn't have OPF.
I guess SQ8 is gonna get an OPF soon too, so enjoy while you can.
I own the 2018 S5 and I can honestly say I will not be investing in the new S5. It is no longer a an S in my opinion for the same price?
Awesome video 👍 Omg, the engine sound is like common diesel car 🫣 And the exhaust sound, and the fake pipes, what..😮 I have a 2018 S5 and you where right about everything 🫡
As an S5 2017 Sportback owner the switch to diesel really has killed the sporty sound such a massive shame. No theatre or excitement it’s like driving with ear plugs in 👎. I’m totally on board with your TDI50 comments
looks like they are trying to make rs5 more distinctive and unique by downgrading S5
I went for a fully loaded a5 50 tdi instead of an s5 in august.. I just miss some exhaust sound
the 3.0 TDI's used in the S-class audis are all using a sound booster in the exhaust. SQ5 TDI, S5 TDI, S6 TDI, S7 TDI. They all have a speaker in the exhaust.
Am absolutely on the same page in regards to the exhausts, why would have 4 pipes when only two are real?!! It reminds me of when people would stick turbo stickers on or chrome exhaust extensions to give they car a more sporty look lol I think it would have been better with two pipes one on each side.
I want that S5 TDI because i like the look of the car and the sound of the 3.0L Diesel V6
39 mpg says it all for me 👍👍👍
I have a B9 S4 in Navarra blue. A truly fantastic car all round. How an earth could I, or would I, then buy a diesel with fake exhausts...Audi have made such a mistake. Look at the discounts being offered!
Diesel sporty coupe makes as much sense as a spicy cheesecake
I pray that this S5 fail so they would bring back the petrol engine
In America it has a petrol engine
Anthony Salerno wait so it depends on the country?
@@rexile1986 yes in the us they have the regular petrol engines. Im guessing because of all the strict bullshit emission regulations in Europe etc that's why over there and the uk its diesel
Anthony Salerno Well I’m not living in Europe, but I thought all new S5 around the world will be diesel, thanks for the info
@@rexile1986 yeah no prob bro.
What year did they start only 2 exhaust pipes ? Is it the same in the North American market ?
That’s a deal breaker for me.
You are lucky as you get the real deal: petrol engine and four real pipes 😊
@@WiZe1972 I'm in the UK and those fake exhausts (and diesal only) was a deal breaker for me. I went with the A5 45 TFSI [no 50 TDI in UK] which I'm still waiting for delivery *sigh* ~Jul'22 *bigger sigh*. An extra £20K for the RS5 for another 2sec to 100kph was not worth it...and I didn't have an extra £20K.
PS. I miss the scroll wheel (I have in my current 2019 A5) but I think Audi are 'guiding' people into relying on using voice commands more and more. That being safer, especially as governments make using phone touchscreens illegal - it's only going to be a matter of time ALL touchscreens will be illegal.
Rather have the diesel! Sadly not in area here! Don’t care about the fake exhaust tips being fake personally! God Bless!
Im a little surprised by your comment where you said 'no emotion no sound' so isn't this what a Tesla is I seem to remember you were very taken with the thought of EV ownership. I have driven the S7 and enjoyed the car very much. Its no RS but not many cars can match the RS7 for thrills. It is though a great GT car. So much torque and therfore flexibility. I get you are trying to hold on to the petrol feeling of the old car but this S5 makes so much sense. Its still one of the best looking shapes on the road and goes like it. Don't compare it to a petrol engine just enjoy it for what it is. Stay safe my friend.
Gerald Holley On a Tesla, being an EV, you expect no sound, or at least, a different sound. What bothers me here is that historically, S models stands for sporty variants of an A model and I don’t feel it driving the S5. I agree with you that this engine makes more sense in the S5 rather than the S6/7 but, should I buy a diesel, I would go with the A5 50TDI and trim it full Sline and S sport seats
WIZE i get your point. Why get a S5 when it sounds like an A5. But what if you add an after market exhaust? Would that solve the problem?
@@FF-KillThemAlll After market exhaust doesn't do anything with these diesel engines. They just sound shit. I have a BMW 435d xdrive with 390bhp. It's so easy to drive, is stupidly fast, corners really well. It does everything it's amazing. But it sounds like shit. If they did the 440i with xdrive in the UK I would buy one tomorrow. But if you aren't bothered about sound these fast diesels are amazing.
Breezythegr8 I would do that with an A5 50 TDI, the S5 shouldn’t be a diesel... BTW I did mention you on my Q&A at the end of the video 😊
@@WiZe1972 I would much rather buy an 18 plate s5. Stock not bad but they remap to over 400bhp so will be very nice.
I would go for chiptuning 400hp and 820Nm I think it will feel more brutal!
I have driven both S6 and S5 TDI, and neither of them aroused any desire for ownership... Those fake exhaust tips and the exhaust sounds from the speakers don't ignite me at all... And in addition, the design has taken a real leap backwards.
I stopped buying S Audis because of the Diesel. Its just a Diesel with a S badge now.
I have the same car, 2020 S5 sportback and my exhaust is on both side, I never see that before, don't know what model this is
Cause yours is probably a petrol one. Here in Europe, it's a diesel engine now
@@WiZe1972 ok that says it! Great car love it!
Does anybody know if you can change exhaust to get the real ones on both side?
nice video but definitively I prefer your RS5; the MMI touch screen is a good evolution and it is the tendency of the market; it is good to have a complete review of a diesel version; could be a good daily with a reasonable consumption; good compromise between performance and consumption
I can’t understand why the hell they did this. I certainly wouldn’t buy one. Currently drive a Golf R and I happen to like the old S5, but I’ll be looking at the RS3 as an upgrade for sure - as the RS5 is out of my budget. I’d much rather have an M340i than this new S5. Why give a petrol S5 to America and give us this excuse for one instead?!
James Shotbolt it’s all down to the E.U emissions regulations. They have even put a stop to how much you can rev the engine whilst it’s stationary.
I will never turn my back or give up on audi diesel.every car maker do some foolishness at some point.diesel engine are very good and reliable engines and audi does a very good job. AUDI should do only diesel and diesel hybrid along with pure electric.
This is what nobody seems to get here in the comments. V6 3.0 TDI is a robust and reliable engine. Here in my country, a lot of people call the TFSI engines TFoSi. Fos means shit in my language. Tells a lot about these oil eating petrol engines that everyone seems to going crazy about here. Just wait until they see the first service bill.
Ok, it's not emotional as the S5 with the petrol engine. Sound, revs and so on. I agree.
But the Diesel S5 got 700 Nm of torque. It's a monstrous value!
In many situations this S5 will be for sure faster than the one with sparks. I guess on short distances, i.g. during overtaking, it could be sometimes even quicker than a RS5 which has "only" 600 Nm. It depends on shifting, as the Diesel is notoriously way more elastic.
In the matter of fact, with the tdi you don't perceive the acceleration inside the vehicle, because it does not rev up as the petrol engine. But the boost is there and is really strong.
The petrol engine supremacy comes out if you drive constantly at high revs. This happens on a track; it's not a common driver condition on usual roads.
Besides, today is the Diesel engine more eco-fiendly than the petrol engine: more efficient, less CO2. NOx and particulate are not a big issue any more.
Ok, just for fun the petrol engine may be better.
Just straight pipe and and it's gonna sound brutal. It's a shame it's illegal in my country. I'd have gutted my B8 3.0 TDI long time ago if it was legal :(
Agree.
Especially VW/Audi Diesels are really powerful when coupled with a good transmission like on the S5.
The Tourque on those things is really fun.
You should be sent to jail for straight piping a diesel 🤢
S5 TDI is outstanding! Tremendous power train and drive train, with low fuel consumption... :)
Für mich das beste Auto, ich habe einen normalen A5 von 2017 Ich hoffe diesen nächsten tollen Gruß an mich👍💪
Loving your vids!
ExtremeVisions Thanks for watching 🙏
How is the transmission response? I had a 2017 A4 and the transmission felt slow to respond vs. Mercedes transmission
Filosof302 It has some lag as usual with Audi...
I would say M440d would be a good comparison to this. Probably a better drive and more 'S'like I'd imagine...
wize, i don't know if the question came before ...can you say something about the fuel consumption of your 'old' s5 compared to your 'new' rs5 ?
TFSI16V S5 had a combined 11.4l/100km. RS5 is at 12.3l/100km but didn’t really push that hard because I didn’t want to destroy the winter tires... Now it’s on forced hibernation... I’ll explain in a next video
Ok thanks for the fast answer. Stay healthy!
But why go for an S model even before they equipped them with 3.0 tdi? It's just a money grab from Audi. You can buy a tfsi car and modify it for far less. Are we just after the S branding or?
How much would it usually cost to modify a 2.0 tfsi?
@@abadam6649 You won't get the same results for the 2.0 tfsi as the 3.0 tdi as it has a different engine. You should look at your local shops and what they offer. It really differs from country to country. The good thing about the 3.0tdi + zf8 speed I was talking about is that the 272hp version of the car can get to 320hp with just a simple tune and no added parts.
I was so close to buying one this week , but I couldn’t look past the sound speaker at the back of the car and the fake tips . Absolutely ruins the car so I walk away
@@macca2760 Well done! As much as its an interesting car, those are a red flag… Good think Audi went back and put V6 and real exhaust on the S5 B10
Hey should i go for A5 45 tfsi or this s5 tdi?
@@loewe-lamm As much as I like the S5, diesel engine is a no go for me. And don’t get me started on the fake exhaust! I’d go for the 45 TFSI
@@WiZe1972 Diesel and S doesnt seem right yes and fake exhaust is bad but not so bad… how much difference in terms of acceleratio will i feel between these 2 cars?
@@WiZe1972 will i be happy with the a5 sline 45 tfsi or will i allways regret not getting the s5 tdi?
@@loewe-lamm Test drive both
@@WiZe1972 did you?
Did you know that IN the exhaust there is a speaker to make the sounds? Lol even the sounds is fake
Audi‘s not at fault there tho, alot of countries, including germany, have retarded noise laws that force car manufacturers to do this.
Same as with downsizing and adblue addition in most cars.
Yeah thats the case in many many many todays cars :)
Sucks, but it can be turned off. And for diesel car, these S5s can make quite a good sound with proper exhaust.
I won’t go anywhere near this S5 diesel. Audi lost the plot on this one. Audi is forcing me to go towards A5 now and I don’t like it!!!!!
@@pjsingh3015 is the a5 tfsi 45 better than this s5 diesel?
Im actually very disappointed watching this video Audi have made a huge mistake, you dont buy an S model for a diesel engine i would just buy an A5 tdi instead, and the fake pipes why even bother
I agree, their diesel line ups for sedans/hatches are a disappointment in general. We only get S7 TDI in my country and while its not bad I don't see it as a true S model like the one in the US with 2.9 bi turbo. It just seems to me a gimmick to sell more expensive trims and/or get rid of diesel engines by slapping S badges on them before they stop producing them completely
I had an Audi S5. I could only drive 360 km with a full tank. How could I drive away with him? but this diesel engine is great. I can neither drive long distances either I get more power. 347 hp and 700 nM. Just amazing.
Diesel is so much better!! Truly sports sedan!! Straight pipe a diesel and sounds much better than has/petrol engines.
Competitors? 340i?
Stinger. And in many ways better. Both very nice however.
AMG C43
The sound is lackluster :( V8 petrol is definitely the way to go. Why would you spend this much to save a bit of fuel and less quality sound? The target audience for S5 isn't for a diesel... I personally believe.
Amen to that! 😊
I believe Audi hasn't used the V8 since the first facelift in 2012.
great review
Excellent review.
James Milligan Thank you very much 😊
Cud się stał, że powietrze nie było morowe akurat tylko w Szwajcarii! Skoro okradli nas z pieniędzy, podczas tych kilku wieków "okupacji" finansowej, to mogą te istotki, co ten los nam zgotowały, swobodnie i bezpiecznie tam się przemieszczać! 🤣😂
Does it still understeer?
Lame "old" comment
TeacherToolkitDemo If you experience understeer on any road car, it means you are driving it way beyond safety rules and speed limits
@@Gez492 Audi mount the engine in a transverse manner across the front axle. They have tried to engineer around this issue. Hence the perfectly reasonable question as to does it understeer. Prick.
@@WiZe1972 instead of a wise ass comment just say how the car handled. I'm guessing it does. 😂
TeacherToolkitDemo Ok, it doesn’t 🤦🏻♂️
Very good
What is your next car?
My dream would be a Cayman GT4 or Audi R8 :-)
WIZE awesome cars and a very tough decision. Don’t forget to upload 🧐😊
Actually this is a brilliant sales move from Audi. People on the internet say the petrol is better, the petrol sounds good, but they don't actually would buy or have bought the s5 petrol. The people who can actually afford this car like the diesel engine because they wanted an a5 that looks more sporty, has a little more power and also has decent fuel consumption for high mileage they drive. In 2-3 years you will see on the streets more diesels than petrol s5. Also, power wise, the performance is the same, so no complain if you don't hear the engine. If someone wants performance and feel and sound they will go all the way to rs5.
No, the 2020 S5 is slower. Look at the 0-60 times. Its a bad deciaion through and through. Im moving towards BMW and Merc.
@@ufo734 You'll be wanting the M440d then.....
Audi made a horrendous mistake by turning the S5 into a diesel. Fake exhausts too? I wont go anywhere near it. They've RUINED the car. In fact, its even slower than the previous model...its 0-62 is 4.9 vs the previous petrol ones 4.7 secs. Garbage, what the hell have Audi done.
Wize, I think that is perfect vehicle is S4 TDI Avant. :)
I had 3 S-Models, S4 and 2 S5. But now, because of this insulting car, I will never buy an Audi or VW again.
4:11 It sounds awful
There is no A5 50tdi
Magnus M Well spotted, I meant to say 40 😊
A shitty daily love it lol
Fake
Terrible audi s5 bring back petrol engine Terrible idea wanna upgrade my 2017 s5 and cannot not buying diesel for sure.
buy used s7 or s6 older gen
Diesel so much better!!
fake exhausts！
en français merci merci