Even though he speaks really well, I don't think I'll ever get used to hearing Pablo speak English, I've listened to him speak in Spanish too much haha! Really interesting interview Olly, thanks for sharing!
It is very strange to hear Pablo speak English. At first, I thought my Spanish must have improved enormously, because it was so easy to understand him!
@@alwayslearning7672 I have a frustrating experience. Not knowing where to begin or hitting a plateau can feel demoralizing and make it hard to hit the books and study like you know you should…Having friends from other cultures makes me more creative. In fresh ways about space and how people create their own world and environment. It is best way to connect between creative thinking and cross-cultural relationships.
When I started learning Spanish I found Pablo's video by chanse. I could not believe that for the first time ever I was able to understand it. It came as a shock to me as I was a total beginner at the time. I loved his videos so much I watched them all little by little and many times. Two year later I'm B2 and listen and watch the content for native audience. Pablo, you are a legend! Thank you for the inspiration!
My mother learned English by watching Price is Right and reading the newspaper. She speaks almost perfect English today. I've never believed that you need traditional systems to learn a language.
These online polyglot videos are like the Marvel movies where they all eventually team up to take on the skill building hypothesis 😂😂! I started with Dreaming Spanish before Spanish Uncovered. Great work guys!
@@storylearning Here are my nominations Stephen Krashen - Professor X Steve Kaufman - Wolverine Luca Lampariello - Bruce Banner (you won't like him when he's angry) Lindie Botes - Black Widow Btw Laoma Chris is definitely worth an interview - his Chinese is insane!
I didn’t know Pablo until today but I went to watch few of his videos and he does an amazing job making Spanish understandable without translation. I am an experienced language teacher (teach German) but Pablos videos are eye opening. I will have to try something similar. Thanks for introducing Pablo.
Pablo can be fun and funny too which helps… It makes it so you can be having a good time and be learning something that might not always be easy and you are improving sometimes without knowing it! That is cool. Pável: great comment.
NO WAY! Olly finally got around to chatting with my all time fav beginner Spanish youtube guy! For any1 who's learning Spanish and don't know about him, check his channel out! The puppet vids are hilarious!
@@thegoatestofgoats Still going and taking my time. Just started level 3. There’s a language wall in the beginner videos where I go from 80% comprehension to 10 - 20%. It’s there that the doubt in the system emerges. I’m determined tho. That’s for asking
@@muppet1011 so like what level what would you consider yourself at? in terms of A1 A2 B1 B2 etc. and did you learn words and some basic grammar and stuff just by listening and not searching for and memorising the word and one last thing how do you deal with only being to understand 10% do you rewatch the videos or what? im sorry for asking this much but i just started so im really curious if it works or not
I honesty think comprehensible input is responsible to how far i've come with my Spanish. It's insane to think that a couple years ago I was genuinely convinced becoming bilingual was impossible, now I can see it happening relatively soon.
"Wow how ..." comma for the exclamation or exclamation mark, if you don't want to include it in your sentence. "how amazing that Pablo says he has learnt" "learned" is the past participle going with the verb, "to have." "Learnt is the past tense. Thai without reading a single grammar book or without using "google translate, how exciting!!!" New sentence for "how exciting."
Machine learning is surely the way forward with language acquisition. Once someone can design an algorithm that can accurately understand each user's level of acquisition, their unique learning curve, their unique interests, and can then independently search the internet and find interesting immersion content suited to its user's preferences and learning curve - at that moment, we will have optimized language acquisition.
@@storylearning certainly that is a key issue, but considering several hundred hours of native content aimed at different age groups is uploaded every minute on RUclips alone, we're likely not far away from having solved that problem. Plus, when natural language processing algorithms can translate languages more efficiently than humans (3 years away), write essays more efficiently than humans (5 years away), and can render text to speech better than humans (no research on timeframes here yet, but I guess 2 or 3 years), machine learning algorithms will be able to create content for each user specifically tailored to their particular interests and learning curve. A revolution really is coming.
The question around the 6:30 mark about "how do I read stories when I don't understand anything" was definitely directed at me. I ask this to myself all the time since I can't speak to content creators. Thank you for that!
It makes so much sense. When you think about a child that learns their native language. In the first 0 - 3 years they might say some words like mummy, daddy and other various words. By 3+ years they'll start talking and stringing sentences together and totally understand what people say to them. No grammar books were involved at all, just pure input. It makes so much sense that to give output one needs to get input first.
Wow just checked out his channel. I really wish there was a channel like this for the languages I’m learning. I also wish I had a channel like this when I learned Spanish!!!! Amazing
This is such a coincidence. I don´t understand why this video has passed me by. I am Story Learning with Olly and I am subscribed to Pablo´s Dreaming Spanish. I´m one of those people who actually likes grammar, there are quite a few of us out there! But most of what I know is acquired. This is an excellent RUclips post. Muchas gracias los dos por una lección muy interesante y informativo.
Olly do u think just a pure comprehensible input method would take longer than a mix of study and acquisition? I just have a feeling a mix of focusing on comprehensible input and structured study will speed things up.
Great interview Olly, you are as becoming as accomplished at that as you are at creating language learning content. "Comprehensible input. Great, I've heard that before somewhere..." classic.
I'd like more information from Pablo (or anyone else really) on how to "create your own comprehensible input" for languages that you're learning. There is a distinct lack of comprehensible input for the less popular languages, the ones I'm learning, and language teachers on iTalki and Preply aren't really familiar with this idea - so they don't know how to create CI for beginners.
Thanks olly and Pablo you both have helped me out a lot with the videos and ollys books such good content I am learning slowly but I am enjoying the adventure keep up the amazing hard work
I really loved this video. I absolutely agree. I think in the beginning it's okay to try to learn some basic grammar structures and even memorise words. But there's definitely a problem where you spend all your time in "studying" mode that you forget to "experience" the language. I got to higher intermediate in Japanese at University we were covering a mix of N3-N1 level stuff. Yet a lot of us came out of university unable to say a lot of quite basic everyday things. Being unable to simply be in Japanese rather than learning it. When I lived in Japan for a year I loved it. I could communicate what I needed to though not to the level I was comfortable and in control of everything. Though ironically university destroyed a lot of my speaking confidence and while I was in Japan I was always so worried about not coming back to university in the UK at a higher level I spent a lot more time in my room studying when I should have just been out doing stuff enjoying Japan and immersing myself in Japanese. But now I definitely see the importance of just experiencing Japanese. Watching films and anime, listening to music, reading, playing games etc. I recently got a Japanese DS and a bunch of Japanese games to play which makes me so happy because this is what I wanted from Japanese. I think too with Japanese some people can memorise certain words but I find it's when you have comprehensible input and context that you remember things. Such as how where in English we might use a word like get for multiple things - get a coffee, get a dog, get a tattoo in Japanese each would have specific verbs such as 犬を飼う. That for me can be difficult at times but memorising all the different ways these things are used don't help me. It's by learning as I go and as I encounter these things that I learn. Like the word 確認 I saw this in Japan and didn't know what it mean. Then I was learning Kanji the next year and it clicked - it meant confirmation - and I remembered every time I saw this on ATMs and whatnot. It's through the context and experience of experiencing this word that I now know it and remember it.
Very interesting conversation. I'm a huge believer in comprehensible input as being the best way to learn languages, however, I disagree when Pablo said that it's sufficient to learn a language. Yes, it plays a huge role in the process, but there's much more involved like the motivation, the discipline, and the psychology of the student, and even the interaction with other people who speak the target language is pretty important. I say this because I've met people who have lived in foreign countries for years, but they just can't learn to speak the language of the country. They might understand what native speakers say, but their conversation abilities are really poor. So, I think it's not just the comprehensible input, but the combination of a bunch of things that make humans acquire languages.
Hey this chat was really great imo! I've watched a lot of videos ab Comprehensible Input and I especially liked that this touches on the practicalities of approaching the method in classrooms, via video, etc. Def gonna check out Dreaming Spanish to see how his method works in the video format!
Watching movies in the target language and keeping a notebook of vocab is a useful activity. However if you zone out you will not learn as much. It is a combination of conscious (implicit) and unconscious input.
As an example, in my fifties, I got an A* GCSE in Spanish, the top grade, but when I went to spain I could hardly string a sentence together with the locals!
OMG!! I have NEVER heard Olly speak so slowly (FOR HIM at least)!! Strangely enough, this time, I did NOT have to reduce the speed of the video in order to understand him!
Biblical Hebrew in CI: Just under a year ago, I went looking for how I could teach myself Biblical Hebrew. I’ve tried for decades, including teaching my son the AlphaBet and the sounds. But I could not retain the written flashcards that his father had used 15 years earlier…so I handed them to him and said you’re on your own. Late last May, I found “Aleph with Beth” @AlephwithBeth here on RUclips and have been learning since. My husband was gone a lot for my first month learning, and so I decided I would just immerse myself, not translating in my head to English but learning by repeating and reviewing the videos again and again. For that first month, I made Biblical Hebrew about 95% of what I heard, not listening to any radio or TV in my native tongue, so no other language coming in. I found that the visual and auditory input was a game changer for learning this language for me, that and the ability to rewatch a lesson anytime I needed to, at any time that was convenient for me. I had a major setback when I was hospitalized for a week, and for almost 3 months I had to only review lessons, as I just couldn’t retain new information. For the first 3 months I studied I was advancing for an average of 4.5 lessons a week, the next 3 months I reviewed, and these last 5.5 months I’ve slowly built up to where I’m at 1.5 lessons a week. So much comes into play with retaining and comprehending a new language, pain levels and poor sleep have done a number on my ability, but I’m loving the chance to learn through CI. Bethany and her husband only use Biblical Hebrew to teach Biblical Hebrew, so that anyone can learn by watching their videos in order no matter their native language. They do offer grammar lessons for free on their website for the first 80 out of 105+ lessons now, but I’ve probably only read a handful of them, when I just couldn’t figure out a concept. These are available in a growing number of languages.
So comprehensible input has peaked my interest but I want to get the most out of it. Do I watch each video once and move on or do I watch each video over and over? I had a moment of the effects of comprehensive input when I was watching one of Pablo's videos and the word abrazar popped into my head from no where. The video I was watching was talking about hugging so my brain subconsciously tied that word with the word in English. This is amazing. I just want to get the most of out my studying.
@@markellinghaus8901 this is great advice. I have found my mind wondering when I'm not in the spanish mood and i just stop so it makes sense to watch until I'm bored and move on.
Comprehensible input is not a teaching technique in and of itself. It is a paradigm, an overall view and explanation of 2nd language aquisition, which leads to the forming of different ground level techniques.
I stumbled upon Dreaming Spanish two or so weeks ago. I'm gonna commit to ~45 minutes to an hour a day and see what happens in a few months. I've never really tried acquiring a language passively (other than my first one obviously :P), but I'm curious to see if it works for me. I've noticed that I'm already understanding a good 80% of the words in the Super Beginner videos even after only 14 hours of input. I didn't have an actual real conversation in English with someone until I was 18, by which time I was already very close to C1 level. And I got a lot of my English from video games and cartoons. So I know it's definitely possible to reach very advanced levels of fluency and proficiency without speaking from day one.
@@storylearning Mr. Richard, they’re not available on iTunes here in Brazil, I’ve looked it up now. 😕 (and there’s no audible App available here either) is there another way I can buy them?
Anyone have any idea how I can get in touch with Pablo Román? One of my students made a video of la rutina diaria in Pablo's style and I wanted to share it with him.
Explicit vocabulary helps as a supplement. However in a true immersion environment (24/7) not all input is comprehensible. It's like the chicken and the egg, which comes first? The more exposure to the 2nd language and daily use of real communication problems to be solved, the more comprehensible it becomes.
Com. Input works like the ABC’s you know how some of us was taught them in a singing manner and never again in our life we ever had to say our abc in a sentence but like a dozen times and I find my self saying it with a rhytmn of the song I was taught cause I didn’t download the order of the letters but my brain comprehended them in a melody thru listening input.
That's really got me thinking and I hope someone might be able to give me their perspective on a decision I'm trying to make... I have the opportunity to do a study abroad year for my 3rd year of university (I'm currently 1st year) and I'm just beginning Korean. I'm trying to decide whether to do that study abroad year and take Korean classes (I think I'll also have to take another subject with it) or whether to take another subject and do self-study/immersion whilst I'm there. I want to make the most of that experience and gain as much of the language as I can, but I know I'm not very good at traditional forms of study and don't want to be forced to take assessments on grammar etc. but then I also worry that I may not have as much time for the language if I don't take it/I'm doing another subject in English. I know there's probably no straightforward advice but I was just hoping for someone else's opinion on this. Thank you for the video Olly, gave me a lot to think about!
@@storylearning I’m not sure they’d let me do that because even though it doesn’t count towards my degree, I still have to get above a certain grade in whatever I do. But you’re right that would be amazing, I might try emailing them to ask. Thank you!
Hey I'm brand new to learning spanish and I've been watching Pablo's superbeginner videos which are great But am also supplimenting with traditional learning methods and flashcards I'm interested in fully using comprehensible input but I understand the idea and not the actual process Like, if I set aside an hour or two for learning Should I watch as many comp input videos as I can? Should I watch the same video over and over? Should I watch a video everyday? and is my goal to memorize the words he's teaching? I can pick up words here and there from his videos but I don't know how to apply that. how to commit that to longterm. and how to create progress from that. I hope my question is clear thank you
14:37 well, I can suggest the way of measuring progress for language acquistion. How many stories have you read? How many movies, cartoons have you understood, enjoyed and watched? Show me the most complex text you can understand: is it comic book, short anecdote, adapted story, detective story, news story, novel, chemistry textbook, fiction, adventure novel, user agreement?
I speak Spanish, and I want to learn some other languages as well. Chinese, Japanese and Korean, specifically, as they are the hardest so probably the best challenge overall. I enjoy watching The Bachelorette and The Bachelor on Hulu (it's my guilty pleasure!) and I know there are other versions of the show in other countries. Canada and Australia, in English, but I think there are others in other languages that I'd like to learn, that I think I would enjoy watching. I came across a clip on RUclips of the Vietnamese version of The Bachelor reality show, and so I know at least one Asian country has their own Bachelor/Bachelorette on TV. I wondered where I could find versions of these shows from China, Japan, South Korea and so on??
I read and listened to Homo Sapiens in English version, now I do it in Spanish, everyday I read, I hand-write down, I ultilize google translate and I listen to audiobook, I get bored in meaningless textbook, after 3 months, I feel better, perhaps I am now in A2 level :)
Awesome video but I really was hoping for the discussion about the difference in your approaches. Olly goes for reading while Pablo thinks it's better to start with listening.
Reading ! Listening to series at low intermediate level ? I tried to watch cable girls with subtitles… I understand the subtitles but when they speak I understand 20 percent
Hi teacher thanks for sharing this useful video. Honestly i have learned many things from this video, and i hope that you will elevate your effort because many students are waiting for you. Teacher ! Is there any english course that you teach through the online ? If yeah please lemme me know. Because i extremely want to improve my english like scalded cat. 💥💥
I’ve watched so much Dreaming Spanish that it’s kinda disturbing hearing Pablo speak English haha. He speaks it well, of course, but it’s jarring to hear.
With Thai - is that called TPR ( total physical response ) method ? Where did Pablo learn his Thai? I am self studying Thai at the moment and I am using a series of children"s books called " Maanii" .
TPRS is a very good teaching system, but I feel that the part about comprehension can be optimized. Instead of trying to make speech comprehensible by gestures and drawing etc, I would want to do it the other way around. I would want a community where native speakers shared videos where they commented movies and video clips so that you see and hear the same thing at the exact same time. For example "The man starts walking and takes up his phone". Does anyone know about such a community?
Unfortunately I think that when you get into that level of granularity it’s very hard to find what you’re looking for. My solution was to make the material I wanted myself, hence my books etc
@@storylearning You certainly contribute to the comprehensible learning community! I enjoyed reading Short stories in Russian! I have watched some movies with audio description for visually impaired people and they are quite comprehensible. The language learning community and the visually impaired community could probably benefit a lot of of each other
Well Olly very interesting video. I am in your programme under my main email address. As I have stated in the comments section(s). I find some of the (your) instructions are contradictory? For my part, I spoke reasonable schoolboy French and more than adequate Bahasa Indonesia (having worked out there). I study every day = firstly because I am sadly on my own and, secondly, because I am very keen to become proficient. I have studied Spanish with one of these "Teach yourseld etc etc"......however, I REALLY struggle with the Verb Tenses. I watch, every day, the Spanish News Channel and I also look at various videos on RUclips. Additionally I have purchased your books and indeed have already registered for your Int Course. I can only say, very honestly, that if this all fails then so be it.....however if this is a success, I will sing your praises at the top of my voice. My intent had been to take a two week intensive course after completion, in Spain, of your Course but Covid has stopped this for the moment! In all honesty it could be my ability....
But I think Pablo disagrees with some points that polyglots make on CI.He doesn't think you need to speak until ready or even practice speaking,that it just happens...,others say you should speak from day one and practice it.
Comprehensible input is very important, but I think it should just be one of the things you do. I’ve seen people who have done over 700 hours with just comprehensible input - but their spoken Spanish was really weak, not just pronunciation, but things like not having the ability to conjugate even the simplest verb forms. I feel had those 700+ hours been a mix of a bit of everything, the level would be way more advanced.
Comprehensible input is the final justification of what English people knew all along. If you speak English clearly and slowly and point and gesticulate, then foreigners will understand it.
When Pablo speaks English, you listen but when he speaks Spanish, you start dreaming....you literally start dreaming in Spanish. Seriously, the only reason I clicked on this link was because I saw Pablo's name. Huge Dreaming Spanish fan
Comprehensible input is a great concept. The first part is correct, if you understand it, you can make progress. But, to say you'll aquire a language in the same way as a baby shows a complete misunderstanding of a baby's or a young child's brain. Even if you were able to mimic the type and amount of input, you wouldn't learn in the same way. There's so much marketing bullshit around "The natural method".
wait hold up so you're telling me if listen to youtubers speaking nothing but japanese without any translation involved i'll become god tier? since im not in japan or anything
Why does anyone need to learn grammar rules and grammar terminology? I have been speaking, reading and writing in English for over seventy-seven years. I do not know any grammar rules or terminology. Are you going to tell me my English must be evil because of that? Please explain to me why that must be the case.
I had watched a video that goes over how studying grammar is not as influential on how you speak as actively participating in whichever language. It argued that it can stunt acquisition of the language because you aim to include the rules in your conversations rather than just letting it flow.
My native language is Tagalog and I am serious when I say I know more about the grammar of English than Tagalog. That's coming from me who's Filipino and currently living in the Philippines. Yet I still speak the language natively.
Not at all. However, there are a certain number of things, mostly relics of previous eras, that aren't "acquirable" at all and that can only be used "correctly" if you consciously apply the explicit grammar rule. As a rule of thumb, the higher the register, the more likely you are to encounter those "unacquirable" aspects of language. As one example among many, can you "correctly" use the verbs lie and lay in all their verbal tenses without thinking about it? Most likely the answer is no. It's just too rare and weird (well, perhaps your generation still could, but the current one simply cannot). Maybe 4 or 5 hundred years ago it was quite easy to acquire that distinction naturally, at a time when transitive/intransitive verbal pairs were common, but nowadays not so much. And yet, in certain circumstances or in certain social circles, you may wish to uphold that standard usage of those verbs. To not uphold that standard may invite bias and discrimination. Some may decide that they do not care about that bias and that they're willing to pay the social cost. Others may decide that they wish to adapt their speech in order to avoid it. But that is ultimately a political decision that each student must make for himself. A teacher shouldn't make that decision for his students. He should present them with the options, and give them the explicit grammar rule so that they can use it if they choose to do so.
No creo que el Comprehensive Input sea el santo grial del aprendizaje de cualquier idioma. Son muchos factores los que influyen: motivación, la forma de aprendizaje del estudiante (visual, auditivo, kinestesico), su capacidad intelectual de procesamiento (verbal). Si esa fuera la solución no hubieran tantas personas buscando respuestas, viendo cientos de videos de youtube sobre como aprender inglés.
It’s interesting when you were talking about bridging the gap… Disclaimer that I am in the CI alone is sufficient camp. If it truly is motivation that makes the difference between those that reach a high level and those that do not, then maybe the role of the teacher is to provide that motivation. In that case, students may be in two camps. 1. The student believes that they need grammar study along with CI in order to be successful. 2. The student believes that CI alone is sufficient. Maybe with case one, you DO provide explicit grammar instruction with the sole intent of giving what that student THINKS he needs (and thus giving them motivation). Now there are pros and cons to that. The cons are (and Pablo keys in on this in another video, that there is a risk with explicit grammar rule instructions that learners will incorrectly map the grammar rule to something from their native language which could get in the way of their progress). The pro would be that for that grammar loving student, it would give them the motivation to continue while you also give them comprehensible input (the real good stuff) it’s kind of like tricking them in a way. Maybe I’ll wake up tomorrow and think differently on this since this post is a knee jerk reaction, but thanks for giving me stuff to think about! Great vid guys!
Even though he speaks really well, I don't think I'll ever get used to hearing Pablo speak English, I've listened to him speak in Spanish too much haha! Really interesting interview Olly, thanks for sharing!
Ha! I feel the same way.
Tell me about it! It's hard to express how weird it is!
It is very strange to hear Pablo speak English. At first, I thought my Spanish must have improved enormously, because it was so easy to understand him!
Me too!
@@alwayslearning7672 I have a frustrating experience. Not knowing where to begin or hitting a plateau can feel demoralizing and make it hard to hit the books and study like you know you should…Having friends from other cultures makes me more creative. In fresh ways about space and how people create their own world and environment. It is best way to connect between creative thinking and cross-cultural relationships.
Pablo's videos are insanely good for beginners. Actually wish there were channel like his for the languages I'm learning.
When I started learning Spanish I found Pablo's video by chanse. I could not believe that for the first time ever I was able to understand it. It came as a shock to me as I was a total beginner at the time. I loved his videos so much I watched them all little by little and many times. Two year later I'm B2 and listen and watch the content for native audience. Pablo, you are a legend! Thank you for the inspiration!
My mother learned English by watching Price is Right and reading the newspaper. She speaks almost perfect English today. I've never believed that you need traditional systems to learn a language.
These online polyglot videos are like the Marvel movies where they all eventually team up to take on the skill building hypothesis 😂😂! I started with Dreaming Spanish before Spanish Uncovered. Great work guys!
Haha that’s hilarious. I’d like to think that I’m Thor.
@@storylearning
Here are my nominations
Stephen Krashen - Professor X
Steve Kaufman - Wolverine
Luca Lampariello - Bruce Banner (you won't like him when he's angry)
Lindie Botes - Black Widow
Btw Laoma Chris is definitely worth an interview - his Chinese is insane!
@@MattBrooks-Green Laoushu - Thanos? He collects languages like they're infinity stones LMAO XD
I like this analogy
I didn’t know Pablo until today but I went to watch few of his videos and he does an amazing job making Spanish understandable without translation. I am an experienced language teacher (teach German) but Pablos videos are eye opening. I will have to try something similar. Thanks for introducing Pablo.
You’re welcome!
Pablo can be fun and funny too which helps… It makes it so you can be having a good time and be learning something that might not always be easy and you are improving sometimes without knowing it! That is cool. Pável: great comment.
@@JuanMoreno-wo5ybI actually laughed out loud at one of his dreaming Spanish videos the other day, his comedic delivery was really good
As a Dreaming Spanish simp, I approve.
Pablo, cuando tú hablas el inglés, es como si fuera una diferente persona!
After countless Dreaming Spanish videos, I think this is the first time I've ever heard Pablo speak English!
NO WAY! Olly finally got around to chatting with my all time fav beginner Spanish youtube guy!
For any1 who's learning Spanish and don't know about him, check his channel out! The puppet vids are hilarious!
My 4 y.o. only wants to watch his puppet videos 😆.
@@jen1963 Let em'! Use it as an advantage, and get them language gains lol
Just signed up to Dreaming Spanish and I think the genius is the ability to track your progress and going up levels.
how is it going?
@@thegoatestofgoats Still going and taking my time. Just started level 3. There’s a language wall in the beginner videos where I go from 80% comprehension to 10 - 20%. It’s there that the doubt in the system emerges. I’m determined tho. That’s for asking
@@muppet1011 so like what level what would you consider yourself at? in terms of A1 A2 B1 B2 etc. and did you learn words and some basic grammar and stuff just by listening and not searching for and memorising the word and one last thing how do you deal with only being to understand 10% do you rewatch the videos or what? im sorry for asking this much but i just started so im really curious if it works or not
I honesty think comprehensible input is responsible to how far i've come with my Spanish. It's insane to think that a couple years ago I was genuinely convinced becoming bilingual was impossible, now I can see it happening relatively soon.
Wow how amazing that Pablo says he has learnt Thai without reading a single grammar book or without using google translate, how exciting!!!
"Wow how ..." comma for the exclamation or exclamation mark, if you don't want to include it in your sentence.
"how amazing that Pablo says he has learnt"
"learned" is the past participle going with the verb, "to have." "Learnt is the past tense.
Thai without reading a single grammar book or without using
"google translate, how exciting!!!"
New sentence for "how exciting."
@@subjectandpredicate7172 what is wrong with you
His wife is Thai though
He gets to hear spoken Thai everyday
Big fan of Pablo and the Dreaming Spanish channel!
Just found Pablo’s channel last week and it’s already one of my favourites for learning Spanish 💛
Machine learning is surely the way forward with language acquisition. Once someone can design an algorithm that can accurately understand each user's level of acquisition, their unique learning curve, their unique interests, and can then independently search the internet and find interesting immersion content suited to its user's preferences and learning curve - at that moment, we will have optimized language acquisition.
It’s the availability of suitable content at different levels that would need solving first.
@@storylearning certainly that is a key issue, but considering several hundred hours of native content aimed at different age groups is uploaded every minute on RUclips alone, we're likely not far away from having solved that problem. Plus, when natural language processing algorithms can translate languages more efficiently than humans (3 years away), write essays more efficiently than humans (5 years away), and can render text to speech better than humans (no research on timeframes here yet, but I guess 2 or 3 years), machine learning algorithms will be able to create content for each user specifically tailored to their particular interests and learning curve. A revolution really is coming.
@@azhivago2296 looks like some of that stuff is already happening
The question around the 6:30 mark about "how do I read stories when I don't understand anything" was definitely directed at me. I ask this to myself all the time since I can't speak to content creators. Thank you for that!
It’s strange to hear Pablo speak English!
Big fan of both your channels, inspired me to learn Spanish and document my progress ☺️✌🏻
I don't think I've ever heard him speak English! He sounds so different somehow!
I know right!
I know right!
Wow his English is really good! I already thought he knew his stuff, but this man clearly practiced what he preached!
Pablo does a great job for Spanish learning providing interesting content at all levels. Highly recommended!
It makes so much sense. When you think about a child that learns their native language. In the first 0 - 3 years they might say some words like mummy, daddy and other various words. By 3+ years they'll start talking and stringing sentences together and totally understand what people say to them. No grammar books were involved at all, just pure input. It makes so much sense that to give output one needs to get input first.
Wow just checked out his channel. I really wish there was a channel like this for the languages I’m learning. I also wish I had a channel like this when I learned Spanish!!!! Amazing
I've learned soooo much of the Spanish that I know through DreamingSpanish, I definitely recommend it. Great interview
This is such a coincidence. I don´t understand why this video has passed me by. I am Story Learning with Olly and I am subscribed to Pablo´s Dreaming Spanish. I´m one of those people who actually likes grammar, there are quite a few of us out there! But most of what I know is acquired. This is an excellent RUclips post. Muchas gracias los dos por una lección muy interesante y informativo.
Thank you thank you for this interview Olly. It helped me to find Dreaming Spanish!!! I subscribed right away!!!!! I love your contents Pablo!!!
Olly do u think just a pure comprehensible input method would take longer than a mix of study and acquisition? I just have a feeling a mix of focusing on comprehensible input and structured study will speed things up.
I tend to agree, although you can find examples on both sides.
Your English is amazing Pablo!!!!!
Interesting video. If you're trying to gain fluency in a language, comprehensible input has got to be the main staple of your language diet!
Pablo’s English is making me a believer. It’s flawless.
Great interview Olly, you are as becoming as accomplished at that as you are at creating language learning content. "Comprehensible input. Great, I've heard that before somewhere..." classic.
I'd like more information from Pablo (or anyone else really) on how to "create your own comprehensible input" for languages that you're learning. There is a distinct lack of comprehensible input for the less popular languages, the ones I'm learning, and language teachers on iTalki and Preply aren't really familiar with this idea - so they don't know how to create CI for beginners.
Thanks olly and Pablo you both have helped me out a lot with the videos and ollys books such good content I am learning slowly but I am enjoying the adventure keep up the amazing hard work
Olly, Pablo, and Mihalis are my Spanish Trifecta!
I really loved this video. I absolutely agree. I think in the beginning it's okay to try to learn some basic grammar structures and even memorise words. But there's definitely a problem where you spend all your time in "studying" mode that you forget to "experience" the language. I got to higher intermediate in Japanese at University we were covering a mix of N3-N1 level stuff. Yet a lot of us came out of university unable to say a lot of quite basic everyday things. Being unable to simply be in Japanese rather than learning it. When I lived in Japan for a year I loved it. I could communicate what I needed to though not to the level I was comfortable and in control of everything. Though ironically university destroyed a lot of my speaking confidence and while I was in Japan I was always so worried about not coming back to university in the UK at a higher level I spent a lot more time in my room studying when I should have just been out doing stuff enjoying Japan and immersing myself in Japanese. But now I definitely see the importance of just experiencing Japanese. Watching films and anime, listening to music, reading, playing games etc. I recently got a Japanese DS and a bunch of Japanese games to play which makes me so happy because this is what I wanted from Japanese. I think too with Japanese some people can memorise certain words but I find it's when you have comprehensible input and context that you remember things. Such as how where in English we might use a word like get for multiple things - get a coffee, get a dog, get a tattoo in Japanese each would have specific verbs such as 犬を飼う. That for me can be difficult at times but memorising all the different ways these things are used don't help me. It's by learning as I go and as I encounter these things that I learn. Like the word 確認 I saw this in Japan and didn't know what it mean. Then I was learning Kanji the next year and it clicked - it meant confirmation - and I remembered every time I saw this on ATMs and whatnot. It's through the context and experience of experiencing this word that I now know it and remember it.
Very interesting conversation. I'm a huge believer in comprehensible input as being the best way to learn languages, however, I disagree when Pablo said that it's sufficient to learn a language. Yes, it plays a huge role in the process, but there's much more involved like the motivation, the discipline, and the psychology of the student, and even the interaction with other people who speak the target language is pretty important.
I say this because I've met people who have lived in foreign countries for years, but they just can't learn to speak the language of the country. They might understand what native speakers say, but their conversation abilities are really poor. So, I think it's not just the comprehensible input, but the combination of a bunch of things that make humans acquire languages.
Hey this chat was really great imo! I've watched a lot of videos ab Comprehensible Input and I especially liked that this touches on the practicalities of approaching the method in classrooms, via video, etc. Def gonna check out Dreaming Spanish to see how his method works in the video format!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Watching movies in the target language and keeping a notebook of vocab is a useful activity. However if you zone out you will not learn as much. It is a combination of conscious (implicit) and unconscious input.
yes you’ve got to pay attention!
Just let it be dont look words a lot trust your brain
As an example, in my fifties, I got an A* GCSE in Spanish, the top grade, but when I went to spain I could hardly string a sentence together with the locals!
So you were a mature student?
These are my two favorite teachers!
Pablo is a king, teaching me Spanish on his channel
OMG!! I have NEVER heard Olly speak so slowly (FOR HIM at least)!! Strangely enough, this time, I did NOT have to reduce the speed of the video in order to understand him!
Biblical Hebrew in CI:
Just under a year ago, I went looking for how I could teach myself Biblical Hebrew. I’ve tried for decades, including teaching my son the AlphaBet and the sounds. But I could not retain the written flashcards that his father had used 15 years earlier…so I handed them to him and said you’re on your own.
Late last May, I found “Aleph with Beth” @AlephwithBeth here on RUclips and have been learning since. My husband was gone a lot for my first month learning, and so I decided I would just immerse myself, not translating in my head to English but learning by repeating and reviewing the videos again and again. For that first month, I made Biblical Hebrew about 95% of what I heard, not listening to any radio or TV in my native tongue, so no other language coming in.
I found that the visual and auditory input was a game changer for learning this language for me, that and the ability to rewatch a lesson anytime I needed to, at any time that was convenient for me.
I had a major setback when I was hospitalized for a week, and for almost 3 months I had to only review lessons, as I just couldn’t retain new information. For the first 3 months I studied I was advancing for an average of 4.5 lessons a week, the next 3 months I reviewed, and these last 5.5 months I’ve slowly built up to where I’m at 1.5 lessons a week. So much comes into play with retaining and comprehending a new language, pain levels and poor sleep have done a number on my ability, but I’m loving the chance to learn through CI. Bethany and her husband only use Biblical Hebrew to teach Biblical Hebrew, so that anyone can learn by watching their videos in order no matter their native language.
They do offer grammar lessons for free on their website for the first 80 out of 105+ lessons now, but I’ve probably only read a handful of them, when I just couldn’t figure out a concept. These are available in a growing number of languages.
So comprehensible input has peaked my interest but I want to get the most out of it. Do I watch each video once and move on or do I watch each video over and over? I had a moment of the effects of comprehensive input when I was watching one of Pablo's videos and the word abrazar popped into my head from no where. The video I was watching was talking about hugging so my brain subconsciously tied that word with the word in English. This is amazing. I just want to get the most of out my studying.
@@markellinghaus8901 this is great advice. I have found my mind wondering when I'm not in the spanish mood and i just stop so it makes sense to watch until I'm bored and move on.
This is the first time I’ve seen Pablo talk English
Holy 😮 pablo be speaking english
Comprehensible input is not a teaching technique in and of itself. It is a paradigm, an overall view and explanation of 2nd language aquisition, which leads to the forming of different ground level techniques.
Absolutely right. The terminology has been getting distorted on RUclips.
I stumbled upon Dreaming Spanish two or so weeks ago. I'm gonna commit to ~45 minutes to an hour a day and see what happens in a few months. I've never really tried acquiring a language passively (other than my first one obviously :P), but I'm curious to see if it works for me. I've noticed that I'm already understanding a good 80% of the words in the Super Beginner videos even after only 14 hours of input.
I didn't have an actual real conversation in English with someone until I was 18, by which time I was already very close to C1 level. And I got a lot of my English from video games and cartoons. So I know it's definitely possible to reach very advanced levels of fluency and proficiency without speaking from day one.
I just signed up 3 days ago, absolutely love it. I'm curious if it would work too! So far so good :)
@@chinesechance Best of luck! :)
So.. how’s it going?!
I would love to watch videos like Pablo’s but with a Latin American or Caribbean Spanish accent
There is Multiple accents on his Channel. Mexico , Argentina , Spain , etc.. And more as time goes on.
Wow that blew my mind when he said he learned Thai fluently with only comprehensible input! Good stuff!!
Hello, Mr. Richards! Are you planning on producing audios for the 101 conversations book series?
Yes they’re already available on audible, iTunes etc
@@storylearning Mr. Richard, they’re not available on iTunes here in Brazil, I’ve looked it up now. 😕 (and there’s no audible App available here either) is there another way I can buy them?
I really want to try this Thai school even though im not really interested in thai language
I study (Bushuu + Anki) for 1 hour and get 4 hours of comprehensible input per day (Videos, music, books, podcasts, TV shows)
Before I say this is bs how do u get 4 hours of comprehensible input a day without deciphering it first?
Anyone have any idea how I can get in touch with Pablo Román? One of my students made a video of la rutina diaria in Pablo's style and I wanted to share it with him.
Explicit vocabulary helps as a supplement. However in a true immersion environment (24/7) not all input is comprehensible. It's like the chicken and the egg, which comes first? The more exposure to the 2nd language and daily use of real communication problems to be solved, the more comprehensible it becomes.
Com. Input works like the ABC’s you know how some of us was taught them in a singing manner and never again in our life we ever had to say our abc in a sentence but like a dozen times and I find my self saying it with a rhytmn of the song I was taught cause I didn’t download the order of the letters but my brain comprehended them in a melody thru listening input.
That's really got me thinking and I hope someone might be able to give me their perspective on a decision I'm trying to make...
I have the opportunity to do a study abroad year for my 3rd year of university (I'm currently 1st year) and I'm just beginning Korean. I'm trying to decide whether to do that study abroad year and take Korean classes (I think I'll also have to take another subject with it) or whether to take another subject and do self-study/immersion whilst I'm there.
I want to make the most of that experience and gain as much of the language as I can, but I know I'm not very good at traditional forms of study and don't want to be forced to take assessments on grammar etc. but then I also worry that I may not have as much time for the language if I don't take it/I'm doing another subject in English.
I know there's probably no straightforward advice but I was just hoping for someone else's opinion on this. Thank you for the video Olly, gave me a lot to think about!
If you can take another subject *in Korean*, that would be best, because the amount of exposure you’d get would be crazy.
@@storylearning I’m not sure they’d let me do that because even though it doesn’t count towards my degree, I still have to get above a certain grade in whatever I do. But you’re right that would be amazing, I might try emailing them to ask. Thank you!
i assume he is talking about AUA school, as i am learning thai in thailand and in the usa
Hi olly. What do you think of pimsleur?
Hey I'm brand new to learning spanish and I've been watching Pablo's superbeginner videos which are great
But am also supplimenting with traditional learning methods and flashcards
I'm interested in fully using comprehensible input but I understand the idea and not the actual process
Like, if I set aside an hour or two for learning
Should I watch as many comp input videos as I can?
Should I watch the same video over and over?
Should I watch a video everyday? and is my goal to memorize the words he's teaching?
I can pick up words here and there from his videos but I don't know how to apply that. how to commit that to longterm. and how to create progress from that.
I hope my question is clear
thank you
14:37 well, I can suggest the way of measuring progress for language acquistion. How many stories have you read? How many movies, cartoons have you understood, enjoyed and watched? Show me the most complex text you can understand: is it comic book, short anecdote, adapted story, detective story, news story, novel, chemistry textbook, fiction, adventure novel, user agreement?
I speak Spanish, and I want to learn some other languages as well. Chinese, Japanese and Korean, specifically, as they are the hardest so probably the best challenge overall. I enjoy watching The Bachelorette and The Bachelor on Hulu (it's my guilty pleasure!) and I know there are other versions of the show in other countries. Canada and Australia, in English, but I think there are others in other languages that I'd like to learn, that I think I would enjoy watching. I came across a clip on RUclips of the Vietnamese version of The Bachelor reality show, and so I know at least one Asian country has their own Bachelor/Bachelorette on TV. I wondered where I could find versions of these shows from China, Japan, South Korea and so on??
I read and listened to Homo Sapiens in English version, now I do it in Spanish, everyday I read, I hand-write down, I ultilize google translate and I listen to audiobook, I get bored in meaningless textbook, after 3 months, I feel better, perhaps I am now in A2 level :)
Awesome video but I really was hoping for the discussion about the difference in your approaches. Olly goes for reading while Pablo thinks it's better to start with listening.
Comprehensible input is how I’ve mostly been learning but I do watch grammar videos too. I’m not really an apps person to be honest.
Me too!
Buah ... si que le mete bien al inglés este Chaval... well done Pablo... ¡Dreaming Spanish is awesome!
Feels wrong to hear Pablo speaking English. Pero su inglés es muy bueno ✌😁
Can someone tell me should we look up words to make the input comprehensible
Reading ! Listening to series at low intermediate level ? I tried to watch cable girls with subtitles… I understand the subtitles but when they speak I understand 20 percent
great video! Does anyone know any youtuber like him or like Superholly that teaches basic French? I don't know how to find one 😔
I really want to know this too! I'm starting to teach my sister French (I speak it though) and it's really hard to find good resources like this!
Alice Ayel on youtube
Hi teacher thanks for sharing this useful video. Honestly i have learned many things from this video, and i hope that you will elevate your effort because many students are waiting for you.
Teacher ! Is there any english course that you teach through the online ? If yeah please lemme me know. Because i extremely want to improve my english like scalded cat. 💥💥
Is the glossika website considered comprehensible input?
It's so strange hearing Pablo speak in English after watching him speak only in Spanish for so long!
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I’ve watched so much Dreaming Spanish that it’s kinda disturbing hearing Pablo speak English haha. He speaks it well, of course, but it’s jarring to hear.
With Thai - is that called TPR ( total physical response ) method ? Where did Pablo learn his Thai? I am self studying Thai at the moment and I am using a series of children"s books called " Maanii" .
It is called TPRS. Teaching proficiency through reading and storytelling.
TPR is different in that it requires students' physical movements, like dancing, Simon Says, and other games.
TPRS is a very good teaching system, but I feel that the part about comprehension can be optimized. Instead of trying to make speech comprehensible by gestures and drawing etc, I would want to do it the other way around. I would want a community where native speakers shared videos where they commented movies and video clips so that you see and hear the same thing at the exact same time. For example "The man starts walking and takes up his phone". Does anyone know about such a community?
Unfortunately I think that when you get into that level of granularity it’s very hard to find what you’re looking for. My solution was to make the material I wanted myself, hence my books etc
@@storylearning You certainly contribute to the comprehensible learning community! I enjoyed reading Short stories in Russian! I have watched some movies with audio description for visually impaired people and they are quite comprehensible. The language learning community and the visually impaired community could probably benefit a lot of of each other
Netflix has that, I use it while watching Japanese shows. The let's play video in youtube is also another good choice.
God hearing Pablo speak English is so bizarre after listening to him in Spanish-only for so long lmao
Interessante!
Is there a Dreaming Italian somewhere?
Well Olly very interesting video. I am in your programme under my main email address. As I have stated in the comments section(s). I find some of the (your) instructions are contradictory? For my part, I spoke reasonable schoolboy French and more than adequate Bahasa Indonesia (having worked out there). I study every day = firstly because I am sadly on my own and, secondly, because I am very keen to become proficient. I have studied Spanish with one of these "Teach yourseld etc etc"......however, I REALLY struggle with the Verb Tenses. I watch, every day, the Spanish News Channel and I also look at various videos on RUclips. Additionally I have purchased your books and indeed have already registered for your Int Course. I can only say, very honestly, that if this all fails then so be it.....however if this is a success, I will sing your praises at the top of my voice. My intent had been to take a two week intensive course after completion, in Spain, of your Course but Covid has stopped this for the moment! In all honesty it could be my ability....
pablo roman speaks spanish funny moments. pablo roman speaks english learned moments. this is priceless. i have aphasia. funny vs learned,
But I think Pablo disagrees with some points that polyglots make on CI.He doesn't think you need to speak until ready or even practice speaking,that it just happens...,others say you should speak from day one and practice it.
Luckily there’s no “one way” to do things!
Comprehensible input is very important, but I think it should just be one of the things you do. I’ve seen people who have done over 700 hours with just comprehensible input - but their spoken Spanish was really weak, not just pronunciation, but things like not having the ability to conjugate even the simplest verb forms. I feel had those 700+ hours been a mix of a bit of everything, the level would be way more advanced.
Oye Pablo! I’ve never heard him speaking English before.
Comprehensible input is the final justification of what English people knew all along. If you speak English clearly and slowly and point and gesticulate, then foreigners will understand it.
Except in China.Nothing works there!
@@alwayslearning7672 ?
Alguien me puede decir por favor cómo decir "comprehensible input" en español?
Awesome video man
good
I just came here to hear Pablo speak English.
When Pablo speaks English, you listen but when he speaks Spanish, you start dreaming....you literally start dreaming in Spanish. Seriously, the only reason I clicked on this link was because I saw Pablo's name. Huge Dreaming Spanish fan
Muy extraño escuché a Pablo hablando en Inglés
Comprehensible input is a great concept. The first part is correct, if you understand it, you can make progress. But, to say you'll aquire a language in the same way as a baby shows a complete misunderstanding of a baby's or a young child's brain. Even if you were able to mimic the type and amount of input, you wouldn't learn in the same way. There's so much marketing bullshit around "The natural method".
wait hold up so you're telling me if listen to youtubers speaking nothing but japanese without any translation involved i'll become god tier? since im not in japan or anything
First time I heard this man speak English 😂
Why does anyone need to learn grammar rules and grammar terminology? I have been speaking, reading and writing in English for over seventy-seven years. I do not know any grammar rules or terminology. Are you going to tell me my English must be evil because of that? Please explain to me why that must be the case.
I had watched a video that goes over how studying grammar is not as influential on how you speak as actively participating in whichever language. It argued that it can stunt acquisition of the language because you aim to include the rules in your conversations rather than just letting it flow.
My native language is Tagalog and I am serious when I say I know more about the grammar of English than Tagalog. That's coming from me who's Filipino and currently living in the Philippines. Yet I still speak the language natively.
Not at all. However, there are a certain number of things, mostly relics of previous eras, that aren't "acquirable" at all and that can only be used "correctly" if you consciously apply the explicit grammar rule. As a rule of thumb, the higher the register, the more likely you are to encounter those "unacquirable" aspects of language.
As one example among many, can you "correctly" use the verbs lie and lay in all their verbal tenses without thinking about it? Most likely the answer is no. It's just too rare and weird (well, perhaps your generation still could, but the current one simply cannot). Maybe 4 or 5 hundred years ago it was quite easy to acquire that distinction naturally, at a time when transitive/intransitive verbal pairs were common, but nowadays not so much. And yet, in certain circumstances or in certain social circles, you may wish to uphold that standard usage of those verbs. To not uphold that standard may invite bias and discrimination. Some may decide that they do not care about that bias and that they're willing to pay the social cost. Others may decide that they wish to adapt their speech in order to avoid it. But that is ultimately a political decision that each student must make for himself. A teacher shouldn't make that decision for his students. He should present them with the options, and give them the explicit grammar rule so that they can use it if they choose to do so.
No creo que el Comprehensive Input sea el santo grial del aprendizaje de cualquier idioma. Son muchos factores los que influyen: motivación, la forma de aprendizaje del estudiante (visual, auditivo, kinestesico), su capacidad intelectual de procesamiento (verbal). Si esa fuera la solución no hubieran tantas personas buscando respuestas, viendo cientos de videos de youtube sobre como aprender inglés.
El propio video es imput comprensible
I have never heard Pablo speak English!!! Hahah
It’s interesting when you were talking about bridging the gap…
Disclaimer that I am in the CI alone is sufficient camp.
If it truly is motivation that makes the difference between those that reach a high level and those that do not, then maybe the role of the teacher is to provide that motivation. In that case, students may be in two camps.
1. The student believes that they need grammar study along with CI in order to be successful.
2. The student believes that CI alone is sufficient.
Maybe with case one, you DO provide explicit grammar instruction with the sole intent of giving what that student THINKS he needs (and thus giving them motivation).
Now there are pros and cons to that. The cons are (and Pablo keys in on this in another video, that there is a risk with explicit grammar rule instructions that learners will incorrectly map the grammar rule to something from their native language which could get in the way of their progress). The pro would be that for that grammar loving student, it would give them the motivation to continue while you also give them comprehensible input (the real good stuff) it’s kind of like tricking them in a way.
Maybe I’ll wake up tomorrow and think differently on this since this post is a knee jerk reaction, but thanks for giving me stuff to think about!
Great vid guys!
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