Orthodox men and metal (with Father Moses McPherson)
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
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I am an orthodox christian and I love Metal but now being a christian, when I listen to certain songs some of their lyrics cringe me out. That's why I don't listen to it that much anymore
I love many kinds of music. Mostly use hardstyle for working out but I like rock, metal and other genres, like eurobeat. I'm also good with classical music or eg. Lord of the Rings music. I just reviewed my playlist and filtered out some of my favorite bands as I started making an effort to actually improve my spiritual life. As a former musician in the making, I know some of the psychological tricks that are used to short circuit our logic and control our emotions and it's scary how almost all of the top bands in all genres do it.
There is Christian metal with decent lyrics nowadays
HolyName is a good Orthodox metal band, actual good theology and high quality music
@@rileyrutterstudios love Holyname!
Deliverance, Seventh Angel check out these bands
I love aggressive music. I love metal. Used to play in a band. Still listen to aggressive bands when I exercise. The only thing I changed was I don’t listen to bands that are overly anti-Christian for shock value. They usually aren’t very tasteful musically to me anyways.
Right now I have been loving the band Guilt Trip and Johnny Booth for sessions.
Much love. God bless ☦️😎❤️
Johnny Booth is fire! I love For Today, August Burns Red, and I, The breather's old stuff, they all go hard and aren't blasphemous in anyway, Attack Attack always makes it into the playlist too
UNRELENTING FORCE!
You are still in the Matrix huh.
Saw guilt trip last week with kublai khan. Good fun 🤙🏻
most of it is demonic. :D Christians are such slackers in faith
Every work of art, including music, is inspired by a certain spirit. Music influences us, and depending on our own spiritual state, we are attracted to the music which reflects our own inner state, for better, or for worse. It acts as an external way of affirming our feelings. This way, some people can get stuck in their ways, by daily injecting themselves with a dose of the music infused with a certain spirit. This can make it hard for a person to break outside of certain mindsets and attitudes, clouding the voice of God and their conscience with beats that are taking them by the hand, and leading them down a path of feelings induced by the music.
Stay hard brothers.
Subbed based off channel name alone. Excited to check out more of your stuff. Many blessings brother!
love your videos and also videos of father Moses
If any of you are looking for christian metal Broken Flesh is top tier.
Agreed
plenty of great Christian metal bands. I prefer death metal and black metal to which some of my favorites are Crimson Moonlight, Au Champ Des Morts, Fathomage, Skald in Veum, Karv, Monotheist, Crimson Thorn, Lamentations, Hells Enemy, Throne of Awful Splendor, and Scapegoat.
@@Bones98 Ill have to listen to those I'm a big fan of crimson moonlight, and don't forget Antestor
@ICXCstudios Yep! Antestor is great too!
When i reverted to Catholisism, for me, thrash metal was harder to give up than sins of the flesh. I continued to listen to instrumental metal in the gym for a while. But I personnally had to give it up completely because it was a serious source of temptation for me.
Silence or classical now. Military marches if im trying to hit a big lift.
My suggestion would be to rotate out your music during gym sessions with some worship type music one day and the heavy metal another, rap another day, maybe even a sermon another day. I say these because #1 that will challenge your mental fortitude for hard/heavy lifts when you don't have the mental crutch of hard driving music but it will also help to re associate (re wire) your mind with idea that church (worship) music can uplift you in every circumstance, even in one previously devoid of that type of presence.
Oh, Sleeper
The Devil Wears Prada(at least the first 4 albums)
August Burns Red
Inhale Exhale
Underoath(first 3 albums)
Wolves at the Gate
For Today
Haste the Day
Life in the Way
As I Lay Dying
Yea there's a ton of Christian metal out there
Nice to see Oh, Sleeper at the top of your list for metal gym music.
If you're into hip-hop, check out Deca.
Recently I've been listening to classical trap music. No lyrics awesome beats.
The beats are the only thing that made rap anyways so now that I’m Christian I don’t listen to rap much if at all I only enjoyed the beats even when I was an atheist
the Doom 2016 OST is peak lifting music.
@@6400ab what’s more Christian than demon slaying
Idk I always thought someone would make a meme of doom guy ripping and tearing to the Bulgarian megaloschemos playlists
@@Thebisneychannel Just think of Doom soundtrack as what plays in Saint Micheal the Archangel's mind 💀
A love doom trap music
@@Orthodoxjohn08 come to think of it ✊
I've been enjoying Holy Name during my lifts.
Yes! Well except I don't lift 😬
@@HeLeadethUs never too late to start.
@@adamjones9818 very true! My pull up bar on my closet is a reminder that I need to!
HolyName is top tier
You should definitely give Bloodlines a listen
So, I am a musician. I played heavy metal music, and have listen to it for decades now. I also have been a bodybuilder for about six or seven years now (not professional, just dedicatedly training; went from 166lb to 234lb).
As a musician, experienced gym trainee, and follower of our Lord, I have a very studied and thoroughly thought through take on this. Would you like to speak more about it?
why would anyone listen to you ? we have our elders and saints and why would i listen to some clowns who pretend christian as you and many clowns in he comments and the guy asking the question in the video .
I'd like to hear more.
I’ve been considering creating a RUclips channel specifically for this topic for years now as it has been something I have struggled with for a long time and thought deeply about. How interested are you in a video being produced to explore the topic Jesse? Also, if you willing, will you share a little about your background and why you are interested in the topic?
I think there's something important and I think the crucial detail: We're listening to metal out of weakness not out of strength, in heaven there will be no meat eating, we eat because we are weak, so is the case with music. I found out music has a great influence on everything including mood, all I want to influence me is our triune God
Do you think giving up meat will aid in Theosis?
@@toddwaynebenton5780 yes, hence why we fast
@@toddwaynebenton5780 I mean we're saved not because we fast, but it's just a tool that helps us in that
@@toddwaynebenton5780 afaik in northern areas they eat meat in fast too, because of need and how it acts on a person, in southern areas the fasting is harsher (especially in the desert)
In other words - there's a discernment needed everywhere
@@toddwaynebenton5780not just meat alone but yeah giving up any form of food is good for you. There is heavy debate, even between certain groups of monks who claim all should be vegan, or it IS okay to eat meat.
On heavy days, I put on the soundtrack for Conan the Barbarian; pure sonic testosterone.
Love this comment.
Soundtracks are actually a great idea for background music with feeling.
Great topic!! I've felt some music I used to listen to when I lifted prior to being reborn I highly dislike now. As I find new modern music that praises God and is "hard music" I like it for working out. I've also gotten into listening to monastic sematron playing sometimes gives me push to focus on the lifts.or even tasks in general.
"Playing with fire" by behold the beloved and "Alive" by P.O.D on repeat
Holy Name is a great Orthodox Christian band, you might enjoy them
I like the new ending sequence of this video. 😊
Hell's Enemy is a great choice. He is Catholic but that's close enough(I'm Catholic). Love y'all Orthodox! God Bless!!
Templar chants and Orthodox gym music.
I used to listen to metal a lot before my conversion, after with years I feel there's something that doesn't helps me to get closer to God, even if lyrics and bands are spiritually clean but its on the rythm and kind of music that maybe feeds my passions so much its my experience, some people says the origin of all rock music is related to vodoo and demonic. Now I train with folk music, byzantine music and stuff like that
What’s funny is that a metal band called HolyName exposed me to the faith of Orthodox Christianity. 2 years later now I went to my first Divine Liturgy this past Sunday and people were asking me about my background and how I heard about Orthodoxy and my answer was a metal band 😂
The only metal bands I ever listen to nowadays are pantera, metallica and megadeth. Since these bands aren't extremely anti religious, they don't have satanic imagery and don't glorify sin like many other bands do. Metallica and megadeth have songs about war, nuclear destruction, religious stories, the corruption of government and more which are all cool topics to me.
Symphonic metal for me. Nightwish, Epica, Sabaton, Delain, Leaves Eyes, Sirenia, Xandria.
Isn’t Dave Mustane a Christian? I’m pretty sure he’s disavowed some of their old material.
@@SH4n1AC_C4C7he has disowned songs like the conjuring, which he made and is about when he practiced black magic. Id say the other songs are fine to listen to, just not the ones that are demonic or anti-christian.
Don’t forget Iron Maiden!
they are all deeply satanic.
Who can dictate what you listen to if you enjoy it? I listen to Christian metal and Christian rap...it fills my head with the Lord and it helps me enjoy the workout.
At the gym I listen to Christian metal. Bands like war of ages, for today, demon hunter, and holy name.
For Today is Goated
War of a Ages is top 10
Impending Doom
Food for thought- The most important thing we have to do in life is pursue Theosis.Our lives in this life are finite. We only have a limited number of minutes to live. Every moment spent doing ANYTHING else is a moment less devoted to pursuing union with God. Therefore , is it worth devoting the time to?
Maybe let Fr. Moses take lead on this.
I’m glad you don’t spend a single moment commenting on youtube videos.
>listening to The Last Stand by Sabaton doesn't bring him closer to God
Skill issue.
What were you doing when you typed that comment?
By all means, join the monastery.
I was a huge Metallica fan growing up. Played bass in a Metallica cover band. Now I'm an Orthodox inquirer. A few times I've tried listening to some Metallica albums while lifting at the gym, but the lyrics get me - really demonic stuff. Example: the song Sad But True. It's basically a song about a demon inside you. Or Fade To Black, a song about committing suicide. I can't rock out to this stuff anymore. Better to put some Orthodox chants on and keep your mind pure.
yes, metal is demonic, most strange thing is they metal heads are one of the most nice people ive met . I dont want to judge, but some music trigger some feelings.
it is all demonic. these people who continue to listen, deluce and deceive themselves.
@@healthyandwealthy5844 Id like to know y'all's opinion on Christian Metal bands who have the metal sound but lyrics are preaching the gospel? Personally I don't have an issue with metal and rap as long as it doesn't glorify sin.
@@ShugaAnims If metal music brings you closer to God, i dont see a problem with it. but who am i? Im just orthodox for 12 years now. just beginner
@@healthyandwealthy5844 If you're a beginner then I'm truly a baby of the faith 😭 but tbh Orthodox chants always hit no matter what lol
U got the cart before the horse on this one. Sad but true!
I love metal. I am not agressive or mean looking I am actually just a nobody. Metal and rock awakens something within me. There are I agree some bands that I do not listen to like those with really demonic themes and anti-Christ. But most metal and rock just talks about life and getting motivation in life
Check our Holy Name my brothers
🙏 Amen
Try Suffocation - Pierced From Within album your heavy lifts. Following Jesus, I see the approach to life as entirely holistic, which includes every shade of emotion feeling and thought as a manifestation of Christ. Love is the key, even to things one judges as darkness.
I love listening to christian rap when I lift.
as long as you dont belong in acommunity like the swifties who idolise TS i think its okay to listen to music, espcially if its just during sets at the gym
I like August burns red they’re Christian there’s no cursing in it it’s obviously metal and causes rage and moshing but I love it
I grew up listening to Zao in the 90s
Thankfully bands have stepped up their game and have similar sound to top-notch secular ones. For heavy stuff Demon Hunter is good (some Catholic references here and there, though mostly just generally Christian), War of Ages has good biblical stuff, and of course Holy Name's lead singer is or is becoming Orthdox.
I'm Catholic but anyone coming from Protestantism to true apostolic tradition and succession is a win in my book.
GOSPOD.....You're welcome
😎
You can try Discipe's albums Thins Might Sting and By God for some Christian metal
No headphones is nerfing me.
I’m evangelical, born again. I workout a lot and like to listen to metal/rock. I’m just careful about what the words say and who the band is.
Doom metal bands like Om and Olde Growth are good for exercise. 👍👍
I showed this to my priest and he laughed. "Why aren't these people working in the field if they really need physical entertainment, at least something will grow to feed the poor.." .
Agreed. The amount of food that body builders eat is pretty ridiculous as well.
And this is why nobody goes to church. It's full of small minded old fools.
Both these guys have jobs, so they can't work in the field. They literally pinch off a hour every second day to train.
@@danielswanepoel9931 They are not christians tho they just pretend
@@danielswanepoel9931 excuses, excuses
Metal music in general, beyond Christian themed bands, tends to have the most biblical references. 90% of metal bands aren't satanic in nature. Even the ones who have Satanic references, typically use it to reference their inner demons, or don't take themselves seriously. Then there's the actual cultists.
I know when people think about the band Slayer, the first thing that crosses their mind is Satanic. One of their most popular songs is called South of Heaven. At first glance, people think hell, but, if you think about it, South of Heaven would be Earth.
As far as dealing with Christians who stereotype music, my uncle (who was a musician himself, and we lived together for a short time) once heard me hearing an extremely heavy metal band called Woe of Tyrants with growling vocals and he asked me, why are you listening to that filthy music. I replied by asking, you don't like it? He said it's demonic. I asked, you think so? They are a Christian band though. His face was priceless, and he just let out a whaaat?! I pulled up the lyrics and showed it to him. He didn't care for the growling. He ended up going through my albums and ended up liking a lot of the music I had. He grew up in the 70s and liked a lot of the bands of the era. I ended up showing him bands like Symphony X, Dream Theater, and other heavy metal bands and built up and expanded his taste for music.
I love metal, but if you really wanna lift heavy try to listen to Psalm 135 by the monks of Simonopetra Monastery.
Brothers father Moses is soooo cooool 😂 CHRIST is LORD
The Doom OST is probably the most Christian metal out there. I mean it's a guy obsessively slaying the demons of hell.
So it fits working out perfectly, as you slay your inner demons by exercising 🤷♂
I get the idiot of the week award. I went looking for a band named Doom OST, you can imagine the results. Not much of a gamer lol.
@@gator7082 😅
I get an extra 5 reps from the guitar in For Whom the Bell Tolls but I don't put any stock in or pay attention to the lyrics. I totally resonate with your opinion.
War of ages is my go to
I used to listen to punk and metal almost exclusively, so I have a taste for the style. I cannot listen to that type of music if it has lyrics anymore, even so-called “Christian” metal. These days it either needs to be purely instrumental music (Russian Circles is probably my top choice) or traditional hymns.
90% of the lyrics in metal music have biblical moral massage in it redder the authors realize it when they created them or not
Impending Doom, Diamonds to Dust, HolyName.
The lyrics are extremely important. That being said - There is A LOT of very good christian metal. Especially power metal and progressive metal, which is what's on my plate. I teach my kids to be picky with the lyrics they listen.
Not orthodox, but there's a lot of amazing heavy christian music that slaps really hard. Especially hip hop and metal.
Exactly. I don't see how this is hard to get but maybe it's just because my favorite type of metal had more uplifting introspective lyrics that turned out to be Christian musicians. I wasn't listening to deicide or CC or infant annihilator before i was saved, so I can see if that's your type of metal it may be hard. But in metqlcore there's a ton of good music that even if not Christian doesn't have much swearing at all and lyrically isn't depressing or nihilistic. I've just recently been getting into Christian rap/hip hop
1:25 perfectly explained.
[Before I speak, let me acknowledge the humility which is evident in your posts. As one shortly to be reposed I find it full of hope.]
Am 75. DECADES ago was too much trapped in the occult. I associate "aggressive" music (no matter the genre) with that experience. Its discordant structure evokes - more than just memory; it is a gateway. (Certainly was for me.)
But an wise enough - after all these DECADES - not to imposes the outcome or residue of the experience on anyone else. Yet the question still remains. What about aggressive music gives it the structure of a pathway for something else? Can't easily dismiss the testimony of experience. [For me], do not expect that (occult) pathway (the structure of it) to be somehow deified - to be taken up into.
A sidenote: I associate the evocative nature of metal/hard music with that used at charismatic rock concerts. May be off base on that comparison.
Did not the Fathers have something to say about the evocative character of music.
To be fair, honest, I lsten to very little music - of any kind.
My humble opinion : we should avoid listening to music not because of it's genre, but because it induces us into an emotional state which "glues" us to this world. Music lifts up emotions and triggers mechanisms in the soul and the brain that we do not fully understand. What we know for sure is that it influences our behaviour. Why not listen to psaltic music while lifting?
But doesn't that apply to anything that induces strong emotions though? Not trying to argue just curious as to where exactly the line is. I do agree that certain songs can put you in a horrible mind state, but I don't see anything wrong with a song triggering strong emotions inherently. Just my thoughts.
Great perspective! I really appreciate this video. I've been a big heavy music nerd for the last 19 years of my life. I'd prefer to listen to Christian metal and hardcore when I can, but sonically, i love genres like Slam. I dont listen to heavy music for a message or lyrical content (i dont think most Slam bands even have lyrics 🤣 just gutturals). I've never felt like this music was a stumbling block for me or led me to sin. A lot of these bands are cringe and have extremely distasteful aestheics, so i curate accoridngly. An example would be Esophagus, their entire theme is based off of fhe movie Predator which is a lot cooler to me than some unnecessary, edgelord gore. Hardcore actually has a lot of positive messages, and, even though not always explicit, a lot of Christian lyrical themes. 💯☦️
I'm a big Theocracy fan, very well done music.
They’re the best band around! You really have to know your Bible to fully appreciate them!
I love these videos. I do wanna know what is your opinion on how to not be bothered by evil people gaining good things in life
Pray ☦️
Focus on yourself and growing yourself in relation to God. Wish others well and ask God to bless them, even if they are your enemies.
It all depends on the band
Part of what turned me away from being a metalhead after becoming Catholic was I began to notice how cringey the lyrics were in a lot of these songs and more often than not, satanic. I don’t think the metal genre in anyway is at fault for this. Instrumentals are still great and help in getting in a hyped up mood. It has its time and place.
Om is pretty good "orthodox" metal band.
I recently found an orthodox zine called Death to the World, founded in part by Justin Marler, who played with the guys from Om in Asbestosdeath and Sleep
Proverbs 4:23-27 and 1 Samuel 15:3 Guard your heart, mind and soul. Do not adopt non-believers' way, they will creep into your life and destroy you! God did not want Amalekites ways to come into his people, so much so he commanded the death of ALL things!
For Today, ashes remain, demon hunter, skillet, all fuel my intense lifts. All Christian bands. And sabaton, of course, but they’re not overtly Christian (“the last stand” is a pretty Christian song tho)
If I am jamming a song I made sure I look up the lyrics and I try to see how it makes me feel, just don’t listen to slayer or exodus or cannibal corpse lmao I loved them and many more but the lyrics are very wicked and they make me feel very proud and I get a lot of violent imaginations
My American brothers and sisters, it's beautiful that our faith is booming overseas, but do not let yourself fall into the trap of modernism, and what I call ''Protestant Orthodoxy''. We cannot listen to metal music, or be gym-obsessed.
Our faith is moderation.
Was super involved with heavy music for 10 years, played in a metal band as well.
You have a lot of good Christian metal bands out there, but by and large a lot of Metal bands just flat out don't like, or even hate Christians on a very deeply rooted level.
Even if the music isn't inherently evil lyrically, why would you want to support musicians that have a deep disdain for your Faith? Not all, obviously, and everyone is capable of change (Dave Mustaine comes to mind), but giving them your money or your time would seem ill advised.
Objection!
Fr. Daniel Sysoev has repeatedly talked against going to theatre and listening to rock and metal music, and going partying. This is because on both of these occasions, it clouds your reasoning in some way. Losing your senses and going after spectacles is exactly the tactic of the slanderer. This is what the pagans were doing. Take a backseat at any metal concert or night club. Their faces and body movement when that "music" is playing are those of a possessed man. The most important thing in this metal music are not the lyrics or even the sound, but the rhythm, which helped people across the ages to lose their reasoning and conduct their pagan rituals. And at the time you mentioned the rowing rhythm, with a clip from Ben Hur, arguing that it helped them to stop thinking about the pain or anything else, doubly proves that this is the case. At that point I thought you were going to call it out for a pagan practice, especially since that rowing rhythm was employed by the pagan roman civilization, where paganism was a state religion.
Fr. Daniel Sysoev was also critical of doing sports professionally. There's nothing bad in doing sports, but doing sports professionally is not only destroying your temple (best athletes die young), but also speaks of your pride, because you want to be better than others. So being a juiced-up bodybuilder, or one of those entitled olympian athletes is bad for you on both levels.
Fr. Moses is in a different position as a professional powerlifter, as he is not looking towards earthly gratification and does not compete in Mr. Olympia events or anything, but many other people are not the same, and are prone to falling into such traps of the slanderer, especially when we go right near them. So it's best to avoid doing this altogether, or at least not to listen to metal like we are told to do because it's "kewl" and "based". I don't see Kyriakos Kapakoulak listening to metal or any music in his training videos, yet he still got immense respect from across the globe despite not looking for it purposefully. He is also an Orthodox Christian. And I myself usually listen to just Eurobeat since it's a way better music genre than metal or pop.
I love all sorts of music. What I've found is now that I'm Orthodox, certain lyrics don't tempt me, they just seem... tacky. Like oh you're a Satanist? Cool, how's the 10th grade going?
I've heard this take that Metal evokes negative emotions, anger, rebellion, hate, etc. Might be true for some, but it's really down to one's spiritual state.
I've never felt anger, hate, rebellion, or any such things listening to Metal. I love Death Metal, Gorerotted, Putrid Pile, Vomit Remnants, etc. But this is my case, which may not be the case for everyone. I don't know anyone else's spiritual state to comment on whether or not Metal will be detrimental to their spiritual health.
nonsense copium. it is all demonic. these people who continue to listen, deluce and deceive themselves.
you can make the same excuse for pron and other stuff
Listen to Stryper and Deliverance
Problem solved
This is my opinion, there is nothing inherently wrong about any genre and as stated in the video music can help the mind focus or relax so yes listen to metal. But i love God more than i love music so when there are bands that have a satanic Aesthetic or anti christian lyrics i have no problem not listening to subject matter i dont like no matter how good the beat. If someone is looking for excuses to justify certain music that clearly goes against Christianity, maybe they need to evaluate if music is becoming a vice for them.
Let me explain something to you. I am a music composer with over 7,000 pieces across all genres and styles, holding a doctorate in musicology and music therapy.
Perhaps this priest has found an internal switch that allows him to avoid being affected by the frequencies and harmonies of metal music. But let me be clear: I’m not concerned with the lyrics unless they promote evil or harmful messages. What I want to emphasize is the melody, the sounds of the instruments, and the chord harmonies-these directly impact emotions and feelings, often beyond what words can convey. In many cases, music overrides lyrics.
Even if one listens only to metal music, it often invokes aggression, rebellion, and dark emotions. There is such a thing as "evil" music and "good" or contemplative music. Why do we say, “Oh, this music is emotional, joyful, sad, romantic, or energetic”? Because music inherently carries emotions-some of which can be aggressive or angry. The patterns and distorted guitar sounds in metal and hard rock make the brain respond with aggression and anger.
You may ask, “What if I want to feel motivated?” You can, but not through metal. Use epic cinematic soundtracks that evoke glory, power, and righteousness instead. If you want something more modern, regular house or techno music isn't as harmful, but it still tends to overstimulate the brain.
Songs like Chicago’s Glory of Love (from Karate Kid) and various Eastern compositions are made with a balance that positively affects the brain. So, please, do not listen to metal or hard rock, as these genres emit harmful frequencies. While they may make you feel euphoric temporarily, they disrupt your emotional balance. The priest you mentioned might unknowingly stabilize his brain through other practices during the day, but for the average person, linking time with Jesus to hip hop, rap, or metal music, which invokes negative emotions, is not advisable.
Instead, try trailer music, cinematic scores, or epic soundtracks. You'll feel at peace, at least. But for God’s sake, don’t combine lyrics about Jesus with metal, hard rock, or rap. The syncopated beats and musical harmonies can evoke negative emotions that overpower any spiritual message in the lyrics.
In songs, the impact of music vs. lyrics is significant-music can account for as much as 70-75% of what we feel, even when the lyrics speak about Jesus. While this approach may work for the priest, it could be harmful to 95% of people.
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You sound like a real fun person…. If music or “frequencies” has that much of an effect on you then I think you’re gonna have a real rough time holding your consciousness together after death (so you better hope that the Lord does it for you). Metal has had far too much of a positive impact on millions of lives for it to be strictly from the devil. Metal can evoke a wide range of emotions, all of em in fact according to the person. Metal is good, music is good; all good things come from God. The devil cannot create, he can only pervert.
Men are drawn to it because it has a driving beat, like the rowing drummer referenced in the video. Cinematic soundtracks and classical music have their place but we have to keep in mind that going to war is part of the male experience.
@@SoutheastKy_Bard If you are not aware, that is exactly how the slanderer operates. For the bulk of the world, he just gets them into the pits of hades. But for the rebellious kind, he does the following - he gives you something objectively bad and then gives you an "alternative" that is between that bad stuff and the good things. It's like that everywhere - he shows you the objectively bad punk or pop music, then he gives you the "ear candies" like metal, rock, or even some classical music, which was also famously composed by a fair number of people who claimed they were visited by the devil - meaning that they also either practiced something, or just fell into some prelest.
It's like that everywhere - instead of spilling the beans to you about the existence of bad and good, like the pagan religions and Orthodox Christianity, he shows you the bad ones first and then the "alternatives", such as the protestant and the neo-protestant churches. You know how it goes - you join the protestant church, then most if not all the passions miraculously disappear, making a man think that he made the right choice and this is exactly where God wants him to be. In reality, that is simply the slanderer withdrawing his temptation efforts from you, because he got you where he wants you to be, and to not question anything until you die. The second you go on the path to Orthodoxy, where there is the highest chance of salvation, of him losing the "rights" to take your soul into hades, all the passions come rushing back, and the various obstacles are being put on your path, making you feel like Orthodoxy is actually bad and you are betraying God somehow. Unfortunately for the slanderer, he is stupid, as he plays right into Christ's hand, since the path to salvation is narrow and, most importantly, thorny, so the people who actually read the Gospel would know that this is the Right path.
@@one_step_sideways Well said! ⚔️☦️
@Liam-gh5cx there are fusion cinematic. Metal brings agression for 90% and can evoke evil emotions. Going to war was always with trumpets and drums. Metal didnt exist
What about the idea that distraction via music when working out is 'cheating'?
Bro i listen to podcasts or audiobooks.
i be deadlifting and squating with lotr on or lord of spirits
I like music of Iron Maiden, but from my conversion few years back, i have problem loatening to someone who has devil as their maskot. I know its maskot, but symbolism has meaning and power. So i just fight my instinct to listen to it. I have need said to be to hard, its just music, but i dont believe that. Messages and every kind of spirit can be chaneled by sound, as well as with image.
If you enjoy listening to aggressive music while lifting then you are lifting with aggression, I would avoid lifting with emotion to avoid injury, also if you need aggression to lift weights optimally then that is a problem in itself.
Nothing wrong with listening to Christian metal: doom eternal
Christian metal is a thing. Gospod, Reverorum Ib Malacht, and Opprobrium. Judas Priest most recent album has some Christian lyrics & Jesse David Leach of Killswitch Engage is a Christian.
If you need children's music to push past pain then that kind of says more about you, doesn't it?
Where's the playlist?
It seems that this is an example of people justifying their behavior. A G note is nothing same as a piece of meat but ALL musicians openly agree that the notes (not the words but he notes) are arranged in such a way so as to bring out a particular emotion. Metal music (not the words but the music) is designed to bring out aggression. To think that it won't affect you negatively over time is ridiculous. Using some form of "speed" like cocaine may not do anything negatively the first few times you do it but over time it will of necessity affect you negatively.
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Most gyms play wordless Techno music to create that upbeat atmosphere needed for workouts. The concept of 'clean metal' is debatable because the genre itself is born out of rebellion and borderline demonism as most musicians confess and so carry that dark spiritual energy - not the kind of music to be mindlessly working out to. Everything is subjective to the degree of holiness one seeks. Here is some Orthodox teaching about such music ruclips.net/video/IcZxWDjLcGA/видео.htmlsi=pYgH11QISAiXCZvO
Absolute garbage,metal is from classical and opera roots.
Your myopia is a sin,go deeper.
Good point about other stumbling, BUT....
If you are suggesting that because you are 'strong', that you can handle satanic lyrics........... you are 100% wrong.
Eastern European, raised Orthodox, atheist for the last 20 years. I just have to say I find the existence of this channel very strange and interesting. Good message though.
Lift heavy, be good.
For those who want new bands:
War of Ages
For Today
Broken Flesh
Hesychast
Within Thy Wounds
Extinction of Baal
Mohler
Mortification
Colossus
Convictions
Phinehas
Impending Doom
Becoming The Archetype
Oh Sleeper
Sleeping Giant
A Hill to Die Upon
Abated Mass of Flesh
Zao
Pantokrator
Voluntary Mortification
Taking the Head of Goliath
Crimson Moonlight
Revulsed
Vials of Wrath
Earth Groans
Oh the Depth
Vomitorial Corpulence
I do not like the satanic (c)rap music they play in gyms.
I won't go. I don't want it in my consciousness or my subconscious for that matter
What's this weird obsession with working out? You shouldn't listen to music that has overtly sinful lyrics or a lot of cursing either obviously.
Stop misleading people. Steer clear of this guy…
Oh? Why?
Huh?
Which guy, the priest, the RUclipsr, the Saints they quote, their spiritual fathers? Which guy exactly must we steer clear from?
piety signalling from you
Now you’re just being vague
Ridiculous, and the vanity of lifting. Priest or not.
Not everyone who lifts is doing it for vain reasons. Working out is good for the body, it's great for stress and the mind. Our bodies are important.
Yes, some people lift just to try to impress others or for narcissistic reasons. But that's their personal issue. It doesn't mean lifting is somehow vain or bad in and of itself.
Bro what are you on? God put us on this earth to push our body to its limit(in a good way). Not to be sacks of nothing and just sit around all day. Not everybody lifts purely for looks or to impress others. I lift so I can be strong, imagine your kids need your help but you’re too weak to save them.
Weightlifting is not vanity. Body building is vanity.
I don’t want to lift. It’s a form of self denial and helps me be strong for my family.
@@Liam-gh5cx OK bro 👌🏾