Or just cuz some1 has a license doesn't mean that they know how 2 drive, or that they can help people with mental & emotional problems a.k.a. a good counselor/therapist
@@skb4055 hey, if we was talking about Harvard and the fancy schools, be it first in the class or last in the class, they’d be still have bragging rights…I give them props for seeing it through. All we asking is some inclusivity in proper curly styling…I sit with stylists and it’s to teach them how to style my hair…
@@mpkblydspkbl745, understood. Even Harvard graduates have to back the bragging rights up with results. I agree with Bianca but I still say we should find licensed cosmetologist who can make this happen. We have to start some where but naturals don’t use chemicals and that is the main component of requiring to license.
Girl you nailed it on so many levels…especially the cost for curly cuts👏🏽 I literally get my hair cut once a year because it’s so damn expensive. Once it grows out I have to deal with the unevenness or try snipping off the ends myself because I can’t afford the maintenance. I wish we could pamper ourselves regularly at the salon like so many others do but I’d have to get a part-time job just to upkeep my hair appointments. Equality is definitely warranted in the hair community and you spoke truth today, Bianca…we thank you‼️
I felt bad leaving my stylist because I had been going to him for 20+ years, including when I used to straighten my hair. But once I went curly, he had no idea what to do with me. I had to bring my own products, my own curly brush, and my own jersey cotton towel, and all he did was wash it and cut it. And because he washed it with non-curly shampoo, my hair still didn't feel great when I left, AFTER I HAD TO STYLE IT. What in the holy hell. Then Covid hit, and I never went back.
If all professional hairstylists were required to know how to cut curly hair, curly hair cuts will no longer be over $150. You can’t charge that much if all hairstyles are trained to do the same thing.
It’s my understanding that the instruction is focused on making sure they can pass their state board exam. So, until the exams are updated, the education won’t change.
This! 👏 What do they say, 80 some percent of the population has textured hair, yet it’s not the “norm”?! We all have so much trauma from salon visits. The stories I hear from my coaching clients about their experiences are maddening. This is one reason I started offering them even though I’m not a “certified stylist.” Where does change even begin? We have to start increasing the demand by asking for curl experienced stylist for them to even realize they need to improve their education.
As a professional licensed hair stylist who specializes in curly/natural hair your video speaks to my SOUL!!!! I agree that if you can't work with ALL textures you can't call/consider yourself to be a professional hairstylist. I'm licensed in Texas, and in school we were not required or given proper instruction on how to do curly/natural hair (and I hated that it was referred to as "textured" hair). The only classes on curly/natural hair (which were only about 3-4 classes during a whole year) was how to tame or straighten the hair to suit euro-centric standards. Right now only Louisiana, Minnesota, Connecticut, and New York require cosmetology schools to include it the curriculum. This is why I'm so passionate about the services I provide to my clients. Growing up it was so hard to care for and style my curls. It wasn't until I was almost 30 that I finally was able to figure it out and get a cut without having to straighten my hair. Nothing makes me happier than educating my clients and having them fall in love with their natural hair. Now, I will say when it comes to the pricing for cuts, for me it's not so much the scarcity of my services, but because of the time and cost of products.
Bianca is preaching this Sunday! These ppl literally have no idea what they are doing. It’s a shame. This is why I don’t like going to a stylist., I went in August for the first time in years to get a hair cut and of course she blew out my hair and chopped off way too much. AFTER I told her my hair has massive shrinkage. They don’t listen and don’t care. Then she proceeds to style me with mousse and tried to fluff out my hair and said I wanted volume. I then told her I hated volume and never use mousse. She said why didn’t you tell me, BC YOU DIDN’T ASK.
The hairstylist from my culture (Dominican Republic) do not specialize in curly, coily, kinky hair, although a vast majority of our population has these textures. Growing up i was always told I had “bad hair”, for which the solution was always a relaxer. Once I learned to care for my own hair, my hair has thrived. Now i go back and forth between my curls and straight hair and have not been to a professional in years. I’ve learned to trim my hair as well.
@@SheylaMI’m so glad to hear that. I only learned to care for my hair properly as an adult, so I’m really glad young people in DR now have more options ❤
Girl I went on a cruise and wanted to visit the hair salon at the fancy spa. All the ladies were black like me so I was hoping they would know how to do my hair and guess what? No! They had no idea how to do style curly hair curly and wet. They offered me a blow out. They didn’t even have a diffuser.
@angelinafaria4553 I have the same experience at black salons regardless if my hair was natural or relaxed. My hair is thick even in relaxed state. Even thicker in natural state. Smh
“Why is curly hair an afterthought” THAT PART 👏🏼👏🏼 I’ve had to leave with my hair half wet because she didn’t want to diffuse it all the way. That was after having to pay extra because my hair was thicker (which it’s not even that thick)
Loved all the points you brought out! I stopped going to salons 1) they charge so much to cut my hair and 2) they never cut it right/ how I want it and they ALWAYS argue with me. I trim my own hair myself at home. When I need a haircut one of my curly haired friends does it for me. So much better than a salon and love the outcomes better!
When I tell you this is so true! I’ve been a stylist and makeup Artist for 20yrs. I’ve learned styling curly hair styling my Puerto Rican family and eventually on myself when I decided to grow my curly hair long. It is crazy that as a very old profession, it isn’t something that is focused on in the certification process.
I’m terrified about going to a salon for my curly hair including for my girls. I refuse to go. RUclips University is my educational platform that makes my daughters look fabulous. And I can save hundreds of dollars. Not in this economy will I spend money to look like over processed cocker spaniel.😂 And I love cocker spaniels. So cute.
💯 right on. I have different curl patterns and it's frustrating. I literally had a stylist complain I had so much hair and thick. Like she was exhausted and it was just a trim. 🙄 I used to perm my hair in the 80s just to get a uniform pattern. I stopped when I got pregnant. I'm 59, and stopped dying my hair years ago. It's now about being gentle and acceptance due to my sensitive skin rebelling. Gray curly hair has its own complexities. I don't like getting cuts or trims, even with a sweet stylist. I just try to keep ends from frizzing. And as you age, you have to constantly adjust. And I have educate myself with channels like yours.
Yes!!!! Exactly the grey also changes things your so right on - gosh when I was in my twenties they would look at my hair as I say in the chair thinking oh please don’t touch it if you don’t know….
Once upon a time, in my twenties, a stylist said to me, "I wouldn't wish hair like yours on anybody." He said that out loud to me. I feel that so many of us carry stylist trauma.
You REALLY ate down with this one!!! I have different stylist for my curly hair vs my weave styles. MIND YOU when I go to the girls that do my weaves I know they are going to snatching through my hair to blow dry it because they don’t know how to detangle my hair. Mind you, everybody in the situation is black 🥸
Thank you for this…and say it louder for the people in the back. A black stylist doesn’t mean they know how to do curly hair.My stylist went out of the country and I needed my hair done. I went to another black stylist….an actual friend of hers…that was trained at the same time as she and who actually worked in a salon to together at a point….so I naively thought I could trust her. Welp I was wrong. She cut my hair and the cut looked like a staircase. It was horrible. When my stylist returned and saw the cut she was furious. When I told her who did she was mortified. She outright said she should know that you can’t cut curly hair like you cut straight hair and and said she would talk to her when she has a cooler head as to not upset her friend but to point her in the right direction. Now, when my stylist is going out of the country my hair goes into box braids for a month until she returns. It’s ridiculous that I have to plan my hair care around my stylist’s life because I can trust others to do it. So thank you for this video.
Totally agree!!! The fact is, he majority of the world has textured hair ( wavy, kinky, curly). This means every cosmetology school should require a full curriculum on textured hair care and styling. We need a network of rated, tried and tested natural haircare professionals; organized by state and area of specialty. ( i.e. braids, 2 strand twists, loose curly cuts, tighter curly cuts, color on curly hair, etc.) Let’s not even get into the attitudes regarding, having to "beat, fry, and straighten" our hair into "submission." We should be able to wear our hair curly, straight, twisted, whatever way we want and not be judged for it. Thanks BiancaRenee.❤
YES to EVERYTHING you said. My senior prom 1992, I left the salon, drove home crying and re-washed my hair. Went to prom in my natural curly self-styled pineapple “up-do.” I also have salon chair muteness and stopped paying stylists for sub standard treatment and TERRIBLE cuts more than 20 years ago when I began to cut my own hair. It became a huge red flag to me every time I sat in a salon chair and the stylist would ask “do you ever wear your hair straight?” I knew instantly that stylist had NO idea how to handle curly hair and wanted to give me a straight cut and a blowout which would never look good after I wash and style curly at home. I decided to treat myself and I went to a great curl specialist 6-7 years ago and agree with you that they are educating and such but yeah…I do NOT have $150-$200 to spend on a cut so I continue to do my hair myself after that one visit…just didn’t feel a value in it personally. I have learned more from you and others I follow than I did from that specialist. Thank you for everything you do for us! ❤🫶🏻🙌🏻💕
I haven’t stepped in a salon for my own haircut or style in 6-7 years. Partly because they are anti-long hair (give them an inch and they take off 7, no JOKE), partly because they have no idea how to manage even WAVY hair. It’s so much worse for the curlier textures. And this was on top of having been rudely handled by condescending stylists who detested me for not knowing how to manage waves they themselves were clueless on!!! If professionals can’t act and perform professionally, then they are not professionals period.
THIS! I've bbeen rocking shoulder length hair for at least 8 years, but now I am growing it. Last December (2023) I decided I needed a haircut. I lost some 5 inches of length.
I once told a stylist I wanted her to style my hair curly. She said we aren’t doing a perm today. I thought to myself how do you not know I have naturally curly hair. I was a teenager at the time and didn’t know how to speak up. This happened over 30 years ago and it bothers me to this day.
I'm a curly girl. Similar curl pattern to yours. It's a nightmare for us curly girls to go to most salons. Most stylist have no clue but to straighten the hair with chemicals. I do know how to do my own hair because like you said I've been doing it all my life. In the past I've gone to a "popular brand name" hair school just for a shampoo/condition/scalp cleaning treatment. I tell the stylist in advance that they don't have to style my hair because most of the time they wouldn't know how to anyways. Keep preaching for us naturally curly girls sister. By the way I've not had a chemical in my hair for over 15 years...I'm real deal natural. 🙂
I completely Agree! I remember going to a “professional” stylist 20 yrs ago to get my hair done for prom after my regular stylist bailed on me, and when I tell you I was in TEARS!! I almost didn’t go to prom after seeing the birds nest that women left on my head. I still don’t trust hair stylist 😢😢
I agree with everything you said. In education, we have to renew our teaching licenses every few years. In between those renews, we are required to stay up to date on curriculum through professional developments and classes. I feel if you work with the public, you should constantly stay up to date. Society is constantly evolving, and more people are embracing their natural hair texture ❤!
Thank you for voicing what so many of us have been feeling for years! I feel your pain and hope more stylists will advocate for learning how to not only style but also cut curly hair. We are a huge market!
I was about to go on a runway & the stylist made my hair look worse than when I wake up after tossing & turning all night in bed. I had to go into the bathroom & use the sink to try to soak my hair & create a whole new hairstyle before going on the runway cuz I didn't want all the photos to be trash
Also, I haven't been to a salon to get a haircut in more than 10yr because I honestly expect them to over-cut it & I do not want layers in my hair. I also just suffer with never having my hair do anything I want it to & I have 3B
It’s so frustrating that it isn’t part of the curriculum. I haven’t had my hair cut professionally in YEARRRRSSS I just cut my hair myself. I’m so grateful for your channel to help me learn my hair, I am now the hair person in my group of friends to help them get their curls back
SO TRUE! Every damn time I have gone to a “professional” I always have to do it at home because I hate the outcome. Can we also talk about “if” you do actually find a curly hairstylist they charge you a GRIP, also making you brush your hair prior to the appointment etc. Like wtf are they even doing paying 300+. It’s not even fair. I literally haven’t gone in over 15 years because I’m so upset after every appointment.
GIRL!!!!! Let's keep going on this!!! When I moved to Boston and looked for a curly hair salon I almost had a heart attack. A 30 mins appointment is $100 minimum!!!! I even considered going to a regular salon, but then I remembered that none of them know how to deal with curly hair. Mind you I am 2c-3a curly girl, and I haven't been able to trust anyone who isn't a curly hair specialist. Short story: came across with this IG account of a hair salon, they do a beautiful job with color. They posted a video of a curly, who happened to be in my school so I know what her hair looks like... They colored it, beautifully! BUT when it came to style it I grinned! Even the stylist, who was the salon owner, looked uncomfortable, and I thought, how come none of the 'professional hair stylists' know how to do at least the basics on curly hair?! To end my rant I wanna say that I used to get trims every 3-4 months because that's what my hair needs, now I have to pull it up to 6-8 months which is when I get to go to PR and can see my stylist.
I live in the Boston area and I’ve never had a good experience with a cut and don’t get me started on styling!! I have wavy/curly very fine, very frizzy hair. I’ve learned how to style from videos but I can’t get a good shape anywhere. I just use Manes by Mel videos to cut my hair now. It’s not exactly what I want but it’s better than any cut I’ve ever gotten. Also, I’ve always had a picture in my head that I should feel seen and heard when I go to a salon. And after spending tons of money, I should feel and look beautiful when I leave. It’s never the case. When the stylist styles my hair, I usually look and feel ugly and resent having to pay. Now I just get the roots touched up and leave the salon with wet hair.
You hit it on the head with this one Bianca!!! Paying $300+ for a cut/color and an additional cost for styling and it looks like crap when you get out the chair! Has happened to me each and every time!!!! I can honestly say maybe one or two times it has looked OK after leaving the salon. I go home pissed after paying all this money and STILL have to use MY products to style my hair. I have 3b/3c hair and stylists always tend to use products that are NOT for my type and won't hold through the car ride home! Girl you did it with this one!!!!
Before finding a curly hair salon, I would bring scarves or hats to my appointments and cover my hair as soon as I left the salon. I never once walked out of a salon properly styled so could never go out directly after an appointment. You pay all that money just to go home and restyle. My current stylist went to NYC to learn the Diva cut on her own. I will also mention that in a Canadian city of over a million people, we one have one curly hair salon with only 2 stylists. Bianca, I have been saying everything you're saying for years!!! Oh, and the comment about black stylists was spot on.
Absolutely! I just did it three weeks ago! I needed my hair colored and wanted my ends trimmed without having to drive 6 hours to a curly hair specialist. I have been to this person and she knows how to comb through my hair without hurting me, she knows what products to use and even has implemented some of these products for use and purchase in a predominately white salon. Did I mention that she is white with biracial kids? She is not great with styling my hair but tells me that before I sit in the chair. She also tries by watching videos and asking questions. I always am prepared to either style my own hair after the service or do it again when I get home before going anywhere else in public. Will I continue to go to her? Yes , I will because she tries! I totally agree that this is something that needs to be taught before getting your professional license.
Yes its about listen and to try...to be honest about your skills but willing to learn.How can you trust a hairdresser when you have the feeling your hair is a burden to them?!
As a retired hairstylist I completely agree. Unfortunately what you’re looking at is a systemic issue. Our licenses, which do expire btw, are issued by the state government. So every school has a curriculum they are required to follow as set down, by the state board. In order for the curriculums to start changing, the state boards must decide to change them. It’s a state by state systematic issue, that will only be fixed when enough money is thrown at the problem. That being said, please don’t hide your feelings from your stylist. You’re paying for a service, and we can’t fix a problem we don’t know is there. Sure don’t be a jerk, but the best learning experience I’ve ever gotten was when my client said, I would really prefer if we tried this instead. Your being happy with the service, is more important than then your stylist liking the service.
Yeeeees! Omg! I completely agree. Luckily I found a great stylist 11 years ago that specializes in textured hair of all kinds. And she’s an Asian woman!! 👏🏽👏🏽
Interesting because the only woman who will do my hair in a shop full of caucasian women is an Asian woman. The rest of them refuse to touch me. She will wash and cut it ( my hair is wavy, I'm bi racial kinda 3a,b) or sometimes I blow it out before I come. The others will cut it if I straighten it
I am so thankful for you. Before I found you I didn't even realize I HAD curly /wavy hair. I just thought it was "frizzy" and "hard to manage" . You taught me how to style my hair and that there were products that were best for my hair. You SAVED my hair ❤
I am man. I have mainly 3B curl type. I've lost most faith in hair salons in Southern California. I dont know how many times I've been in a hair salon and/or barber chair, and they take a FINE toothed comb and scissors while examining my hair shimmying left and right like I'm a damn science project... So, wait, I'll ask again. Do you know how to cut curly hair? ...Uh, yea. Fah sho man, I gotchu. So, why don't I SEE or FEEL confidence coming from you? ... Bro/Mami BYE! Curl friends, trust your GUT! Its happened TOO many times to us. Dont be fooled! Bianca Renee. Keep spreading the love gurl! Much love and positive vibes to you. 💯 felt this video (and I never watch people rant, but you got it mama!) 👍🏽 PEACE.
Girl you went in........ I definitely understand. I have sat in the salon chair many times and have been asked right off the bat how to I style my hair type, which is 3C because they were more used to 4c and Im sitting there like you are the one with the license, really!!
You doing a lot of preaching here and all truth!!! I learned from you, CurlieCrys, and Kimberly Cherell. Y’all helped me a bunch to master my curls. There is one hair stylist that helped me with product choices and he had to learn what products work.
I totally agree with you! This is ridiculous! It can be frustrating when professional hairstylists lack knowledge about curly hair, especially considering the unique care and techniques required to maintain and style it properly. Curly hair varies in texture, curl pattern, and needs, and not having expertise in these areas can lead to damaging practices or unsatisfactory results. It highlights a gap in cosmetology education, which sometimes prioritizes straight hair techniques over textured hair. Ideally, all hairstylists should be trained in the diverse range of hair types so they can provide the best service for all clients. Inclusivity in beauty services is key, especially as more people embrace their natural curls.
The curriculum needs to change ASAP. You are absolutely correct. Also, why pay $25k for school and spending over $2k for curly cutting class. I can't understand it for the life for me.
Finally, someone who feels my pain, I gave up trying to go to a hair salon. I had to go home and re-do my hair after spend money on professional styles
Yassss!!! All the time. I go home immediately to rewash to style my hair. Also … The trim or cut is always different. Ms Bianca, I am an experienced young person (67 yrs old) I just learned to work with my beautifully curly hair in my fifties!!! You are that person who made my transition and hair care for my curly hair work. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU ARE DOING so we can all shine in our natural glory.
So true! I still have a love/hate relationship with my curly hair but try to feel more neutral about it. One of the reasons I wish I had straight hair is because I could just walk into any professional salon and know I'd get a good haircut. I wouldn't have to do all this research, digging for the stylists work, or asking around. It's mentally exhausted to the point where I just don't even want to get my hair cut anymore. I'd rather just ask my mom to give me a trim
I am a nervous wreck right now! My daughter and I both need a proper cut and color for me. I am located in the Northern California area- if you have any recommendations please share! Greatly appreciated 🥰
I live in Atlanta, GA and here there is a new trend of Head Spas, where you go and get a hair/scalp treatment that focalizes on massaging and relaxation. Out of all the salons that have opened up, I have not seen one tailor to curly hair aftercare. The procedure once the head spa is completed, there is a room where there is a mirror and blow dryer. The norm is for clients to "blow dry" their hair so that they don't leave with wet hair. If us curly girls use only a blow dryer for the aftercare.... we would be lookin A HOT MESS walking out..... Their pages will intentionally mentioned that they also cater to curly girls but their after care says quite the opposite. The idea sounds amazing to get a head massage but I refuse to give any of them my money if the expectation is for me to bring in my own hair products and do it myself after.... Had to rant. Your rant inspired my rant that hadn't been vocalized yet. I hope others have noticed what I'm noticing because it's not right. Anyway, love you Bianca and thank you for speaking out on these issues that all of us have either experienced or noticed!
I live in Atlanta too and saw an ad for one yesterday. I immediately went to the FAQs because I was like “what do they do with your hair afterwards?” And of course they said they just blow dry. What really got me was them saying depending on how curly or could your hair is, the don’t recommend the scalp treatments because it will lead to your hair being tangled but my question is, why not just detangle May hair once you’re done with the scalp massage? And maybe have an option to just braid my hair or something if I don’t want it blown out. It’s like damn, just because I have curly or coil hair I can’t enjoy this form or self care smh.
@@chocolatelover9109 Yessss!!!! Exactly!!! I keep seeing the same thing! Ridiculous… so comforting to know I’m not the only one who shares this frustration!!
AMEN! I have been natural for over 20 years and it has been a roller-coaster. Everything from the "snatching" as they did not know how to detangle, to not using enough conditioner, suggesting we relax it "just a bit to loosen the curl", etc. Many black stylists used products that were too strong for my 3C curls. I've had months where I did not even want to try to fix my hair, because it needed time to heal from the last appointment. You and Mell changed my life with knowledge, products, and empowerment. Have been using the same stylist for years. She is a white lady, working for Aveda salons, that paid to take a Ouidad course years ago. Her cuts are good, but styling is just okay. Nice thing is she is open to learning, so I go to most appointments with a new brush or product. Always have a hair clip, scarf, and gel with me...just in case. Often have left with wet hair, simply because it was easier. An Aveda session has never been cheap, so it would be nice to have it look nice for at least a few days. I remember the days when I had relaxed hair and left the salon feeling pretty.
I'm so close to learning how to cut my own hair. The cuts I've had with curly hair stylists have mostly been fine but they always assume every curly or wavy haired person needs a TON of moisture. But my virgin hair loves protein and is really easily over moisturized so it always takes multiple washes to get it back to normal. I'm over it
I genuinely felt the frustration here !! I went to a salon for what I would call my “birthday transformation” paid 300$ to leave so unhappy. The stylist literally only put OIL in my hair after we bleached it bc she didn’t even have ANY curly hair products!!!! I was in shock when she asked the BRAIDER next to our booth for some products !! First & last time I would ever step into a salon again !!
Can we take a moment to discuss the stylists who create a frizzy tangled mess with a diffuser? I have 2b/2c waves and don't even trust a stylist to come close to me with a diffuser 🫠
I can't tell you how many times I've called ahead to ask if the stylist or braider knows how to style natural black hair, and I leave the appointment with my hair looking horrible. I usually just go home and cry and try to fix it the next day.
OH MY GOSH!! this video is so needed. I stopped going to salons for this exact reason! I have tried just going to salons for treatments and trims for a long....... time and just styling it on my own because I was tired of going to the salon and getting home and looking like a cheapet. I finally realized I had to figure out how to treat and style my hair myself when I got pregnant with my daughter and thought I cant have her deal with the same issues. Thanks to You tubers like you (love your channel!!) I have learned so... much that know I have been able to pass on my knowledge to others. It took me a long time to love my hair and I wanted her to know her hair is beautiful too. Many of these stylists only know how to style and has no clue how to take care of hair especially curly tight coiled textured hair. It is truly sad to know that product lines have grown so much buy the hair professionals have not.
YES THIS. Also - what on earth is with professional hairstylists claiming they are a ‘curly stylist’ after taking a single diva curl workshop. I had a curly hairstylist LOAD my hair up with leave in conditioner and hairspray - my fine 2c hair was plastered to my scalp, hard, dry ; yet greasy at the same time. 175.00 for a REGULAR long layered cut and this styling l - and i had to shower when I got home🙃. The sad fact is this is not a one off.
Oh gosh yes - I have gotten to the point please trim and leave it alone thanks! I have to say you’re right this channel has helped many including myself and both children.
Yes!! I love this so much, you truly educated me on how to care for my curls! I agree that curly hair was always viewed as poofy or frizzy. I’m grateful ai have found a hair tech who listens to my wants for my hair cut and how I like my hair styled.
Yes!! I suffer from salon chair muteness too. 😅😅 I know what you mean about the older generation not knowing about curly hair. I actually kearney everything from you!! Even for my kids. ❤
Thank you for vlogging. I learned so much from your vlogs on my natural hair journey! None of the hair salons I went to since my teens even suggested that I could wear my natural hair! Going natural is the best thing I have ever done with my hair. It is healthier, easier and less time consuming thanks to vloggers like you!!🎉
You’ve definitely taught me majority of what I know about caring for my natural hair. I don’t use sulfate, straighten my hair, or use silicones anymore bc of you and my hair is thriving!!!! It is longer and healthier than it’s ever been.
I once told a stylist I wanted her to style my hair curly. She said we aren’t doing a perm today. I thought to myself how do you not know I have naturally curly hair. I was a teenager at the time and didn’t know how to speak up. This happened over 30 years ago and it bothers me to this day. On the other hand, a few years after the above incident I found a stylist who could bring my curls to life. I wish I could find her again now that I’m embracing my natural curls.
I AGREE! where i live it is extremely hard to find stylists that cut curly hair. My stylist was taught by her teacher how to cut curly hair and she was the only one in her class who was taught. She cuts, washes, and styles my hair all for $50 dollars. I think it's super reasonable!! And she gets clients with curls much tighter than mine. She is the first stylist I have had that makes me feel seen finally!
Well said! I have 3C curls and the number of stylist that can’t do anything decent with my hair is sad! I used to always go home and re-wet my hair and style it myself. Paying top dollar and getting crap in return. I finally found an awesome stylist at Ulta who actually knows what to do with curly hair. I love your videos and you hit the nail on the head with this video. 👩🏽🦱
You don’t understand how much you helped me with my curly hair routine. ❤️🫶🏽Can you please do another video even if it’s just a RUclips short or leave me a comment picking out your top three favorite products in different categories especially in a leave in conditioner and a deep conditioner if you could only choose three. I watched your older video similar to this one and I’m still using those products today, but I’m excited to try something new and I trust what you recommend if I could try it all I would!
Went to a curl hair stylist and ran out crying. She did not know how to style my hair, cut way too much (which I asked not to do) and made me look like a mushroom. I had to go home and “fix it” as much as I could and wait for it to grow out. It was NOT cheap! The struggle is real!
I once paid $200 for a haircut I hated. Curly haircuts are so expensive and even still, you’re not guaranteed to like what you come out with. Now that I’m a mother I only get my hair cut once a year because of the price, otherwise I have to maintain and trim myself. It’s just not right 🥲
I'm a Teacher and our licenses expires and we need to do "X" amount of hours of professional development to keep up with the field, and many other fields are the same. This industry should change! You are completely on the point! Change the curriculum, trial every type of texture, hair porosity and lengths, and then you can graduate.
Gurl!!!’ I’m so glad you finally addressed this. It’s crazy right? You are so on point with this. Amazing it’s 2024!!!! Thank you for bringing this to light!!!! U have so much respect for you and your channel. You have no idea how many times I’ve shared your channel with my family and friends. And when I say friends I mean the whole spectrum melting pot!!! You have educated so many of us. Thank you !!!!
I said the same thing when I joined cosmetology school. Trying to learn how to take care of my own curly hair was a big motivation. Like you said, maybe one chapter if you're lucky. I learned more after I graduated by watching a bunch of youtube vidoes. Like yours. So to that I say, thank you.
When I was in college I tried a regular salon a couple times and it went terribly so, since I'm biracial and have similar hair to yours I thought I'd try a black salon. You are so right just because they're black does not mean they know how to style curly hair. Not only did they cut way too much hair off but it was styled so poorly. The closest I've ever had my hair done well was one diva curl stylist and not even all of them are good. I just trim and style my own hair now.
It’s honestly worse than you think 😢 I’m a cosmetology instructor and I’ve taught on all types of hair but it’s super unfortunate because it’s not a requirement in the state of California for the students to even touch a curly client before graduating. I’ve gotten in trouble from the school directors before for “making” a student work on a curly hair client because it made her anxious even though I was mainly doing the client, the student was merely being guided as she assisted me. In the state of California -since Covid - it is no longer required for any cosmetology students to take a hands on test. They just need to pass a written exam after they have graduated. They also don’t need to do well on any clients of doll heads throughout the duration of school (depending on the school-because they are privately owned) they are only required to attempt it and not miss any steps. For example they are tested on a blow out but the finished product is not considered.. they just need to do all the steps and demonstrate safety and take precautions to protect the client. It’s really sad. It drives me crazy.
Just to clarify; there is no practical hands on licensing exam anymore, only a written exam. There are practical hands-on tests for things such as a manicure, updo, blow out, color retouch, relaxer etc but they are only graded on doing the steps and being safe. Not graded on the outcome
WHAT!!! OMG sharing this comment. This is literally crazy!! What does the word “professional “ even mean???? 🙈🙈 Thanks for sharing and taking the time to care about multiple textures ❤️
This is true. Most black stylists have to learn to style ethnic hair on their own. Not only that, I heard stylists get points taken off their score at schools for taking too long to do curly/4c hair when those styles take longer to do correctly.
There was a gal in town that a lot of curly folks go to and recommended. So I scheduled an appointment, showed up, sat down, and she told me “lets wash your hair and straighten it” 😵💫 I tried to explain to her that I get my hair cut dry and in its natural state and we ended the appointment there and I went back to my regular hair stylist
I'm 30 years old and I'm just now learning to love my curly hair after growing up in a household where I was told my 4C hair is "nappy" and was constantly straightened with a hot comb. My hair became severely damaged and after years of RUclips in my mid 20s I started to learn how to take care of my curly hair. I still can't "do" my hair on my own (I mainly just wear wash and go's) but I've learned how to properly moisturize my hair so that it's not loaded with oil and grease like it has been my entire childhood lol
Also, remember, just cause someone is licensed doesn’t mean they finished at the top of their class.
Or just cuz some1 has a license doesn't mean that they know how 2 drive, or that they can help people with mental & emotional problems a.k.a. a good counselor/therapist
Facts!
@@skb4055 hey, if we was talking about Harvard and the fancy schools, be it first in the class or last in the class, they’d be still have bragging rights…I give them props for seeing it through. All we asking is some inclusivity in proper curly styling…I sit with stylists and it’s to teach them how to style my hair…
@@mpkblydspkbl745, understood. Even Harvard graduates have to back the bragging rights up with results. I agree with Bianca but I still say we should find licensed cosmetologist who can make this happen. We have to start some where but naturals don’t use chemicals and that is the main component of requiring to license.
Oop 😂
Girl you nailed it on so many levels…especially the cost for curly cuts👏🏽 I literally get my hair cut once a year because it’s so damn expensive. Once it grows out I have to deal with the unevenness or try snipping off the ends myself because I can’t afford the maintenance. I wish we could pamper ourselves regularly at the salon like so many others do but I’d have to get a part-time job just to upkeep my hair appointments. Equality is definitely warranted in the hair community and you spoke truth today, Bianca…we thank you‼️
This one day I went to a salon my hair was straight when he start washing it he said you tricked me, I was like whatttt.
I'm looking for someone in San Diego for a curly cut. The cheapest I've found so far is $350🤯
Girl, I suggest you to do it yourself
Speak! I started cutting my hair myself bc I got tired of paying an arm and a leg for them to not cut it the way I asked for.
I felt bad leaving my stylist because I had been going to him for 20+ years, including when I used to straighten my hair. But once I went curly, he had no idea what to do with me. I had to bring my own products, my own curly brush, and my own jersey cotton towel, and all he did was wash it and cut it. And because he washed it with non-curly shampoo, my hair still didn't feel great when I left, AFTER I HAD TO STYLE IT. What in the holy hell. Then Covid hit, and I never went back.
I HATE THAT THEY CHARGE OVER $150 JUST TO CUT OUR HAIR. THAT'S INSANE
This ‼️‼️ my straight-haired friend complained about an $80 haircut the other day lol
If all professional hairstylists were required to know how to cut curly hair, curly hair cuts will no longer be over $150. You can’t charge that much if all hairstyles are trained to do the same thing.
During Covid, I started cutting my own hair and I've never gone back. $150 to $300???!!! PFFFFtttt!
It’s my understanding that the instruction is focused on making sure they can pass their state board exam. So, until the exams are updated, the education won’t change.
That part!
Correct. Retired master cosmetologist here 😉
It’s so sad how beauty standards have affected actual education process..
True. This is why when I hear "as a cosmetologist....," I roll my eyes. Why go to a stylist that you have to tell how to do your hair.
This! 👏 What do they say, 80 some percent of the population has textured hair, yet it’s not the “norm”?! We all have so much trauma from salon visits. The stories I hear from my coaching clients about their experiences are maddening. This is one reason I started offering them even though I’m not a “certified stylist.”
Where does change even begin? We have to start increasing the demand by asking for curl experienced stylist for them to even realize they need to improve their education.
Sad state of affairs.
As a professional licensed hair stylist who specializes in curly/natural hair your video speaks to my SOUL!!!! I agree that if you can't work with ALL textures you can't call/consider yourself to be a professional hairstylist. I'm licensed in Texas, and in school we were not required or given proper instruction on how to do curly/natural hair (and I hated that it was referred to as "textured" hair). The only classes on curly/natural hair (which were only about 3-4 classes during a whole year) was how to tame or straighten the hair to suit euro-centric standards. Right now only Louisiana, Minnesota, Connecticut, and New York require cosmetology schools to include it the curriculum.
This is why I'm so passionate about the services I provide to my clients. Growing up it was so hard to care for and style my curls. It wasn't until I was almost 30 that I finally was able to figure it out and get a cut without having to straighten my hair. Nothing makes me happier than educating my clients and having them fall in love with their natural hair. Now, I will say when it comes to the pricing for cuts, for me it's not so much the scarcity of my services, but because of the time and cost of products.
But where are you in Texas? Close to Houston???
I'm glad you spoke about the price of curly cut. The prices are outrageous.
Im glad an influencer is calling it out! This is not talked about enough!
Bianca is preaching this Sunday! These ppl literally have no idea what they are doing. It’s a shame. This is why I don’t like going to a stylist., I went in August for the first time in years to get a hair cut and of course she blew out my hair and chopped off way too much. AFTER I told her my hair has massive shrinkage. They don’t listen and don’t care. Then she proceeds to style me with mousse and tried to fluff out my hair and said I wanted volume. I then told her I hated volume and never use mousse. She said why didn’t you tell me, BC YOU DIDN’T ASK.
I went straight home and washed my hair and styled it myself with gel.
You hit it on the head! I can not even tell you how many times I have had to come home and fix my hair
The hairstylist from my culture (Dominican Republic) do not specialize in curly, coily, kinky hair, although a vast majority of our population has these textures. Growing up i was always told I had “bad hair”, for which the solution was always a relaxer. Once I learned to care for my own hair, my hair has thrived. Now i go back and forth between my curls and straight hair and have not been to a professional in years. I’ve learned to trim my hair as well.
It's the same here in South Africa. I shouldn't have to _hunt_ for someone who offers the options I need.
Thankfully is changing here in DR. I can now get my 3c/4a hair styled in high end salons no biggie.
@@SheylaMI’m so glad to hear that. I only learned to care for my hair properly as an adult, so I’m really glad young people in DR now have more options ❤
Girl I went on a cruise and wanted to visit the hair salon at the fancy spa. All the ladies were black like me so I was hoping they would know how to do my hair and guess what? No! They had no idea how to do style curly hair curly and wet. They offered me a blow out. They didn’t even have a diffuser.
@angelinafaria4553 I have the same experience at black salons regardless if my hair was natural or relaxed. My hair is thick even in relaxed state. Even thicker in natural state. Smh
“Why is curly hair an afterthought” THAT PART 👏🏼👏🏼
I’ve had to leave with my hair half wet because she didn’t want to diffuse it all the way. That was after having to pay extra because my hair was thicker (which it’s not even that thick)
Loved all the points you brought out! I stopped going to salons 1) they charge so much to cut my hair and 2) they never cut it right/ how I want it and they ALWAYS argue with me. I trim my own hair myself at home. When I need a haircut one of my curly haired friends does it for me. So much better than a salon and love the outcomes better!
When I tell you this is so true! I’ve been a stylist and makeup Artist for 20yrs. I’ve learned styling curly hair styling my Puerto Rican family and eventually on myself when I decided to grow my curly hair long. It is crazy that as a very old profession, it isn’t something that is focused on in the certification process.
I’m terrified about going to a salon for my curly hair including for my girls. I refuse to go. RUclips University is my educational platform that makes my daughters look fabulous. And I can save hundreds of dollars. Not in this economy will I spend money to look like over processed cocker spaniel.😂 And I love cocker spaniels. So cute.
💯 right on. I have different curl patterns and it's frustrating. I literally had a stylist complain I had so much hair and thick. Like she was exhausted and it was just a trim. 🙄 I used to perm my hair in the 80s just to get a uniform pattern. I stopped when I got pregnant. I'm 59, and stopped dying my hair years ago. It's now about being gentle and acceptance due to my sensitive skin rebelling. Gray curly hair has its own complexities. I don't like getting cuts or trims, even with a sweet stylist. I just try to keep ends from frizzing. And as you age, you have to constantly adjust. And I have educate myself with channels like yours.
Yes!!!! Exactly the grey also changes things your so right on - gosh when I was in my twenties they would look at my hair as I say in the chair thinking oh please don’t touch it if you don’t know….
Once upon a time, in my twenties, a stylist said to me, "I wouldn't wish hair like yours on anybody." He said that out loud to me. I feel that so many of us carry stylist trauma.
@67artemis67 😢
You REALLY ate down with this one!!! I have different stylist for my curly hair vs my weave styles. MIND YOU when I go to the girls that do my weaves I know they are going to snatching through my hair to blow dry it because they don’t know how to detangle my hair. Mind you, everybody in the situation is black 🥸
😮💨😮💨 girl. I feel you! That would make me wanna show up already blow dried and detangled but then again… that’s THEIR job! 🙈
Thank you for this…and say it louder for the people in the back. A black stylist doesn’t mean they know how to do curly hair.My stylist went out of the country and I needed my hair done. I went to another black stylist….an actual friend of hers…that was trained at the same time as she and who actually worked in a salon to together at a point….so I naively thought I could trust her. Welp I was wrong. She cut my hair and the cut looked like a staircase. It was horrible. When my stylist returned and saw the cut she was furious. When I told her who did she was mortified. She outright said she should know that you can’t cut curly hair like you cut straight hair and and said she would talk to her when she has a cooler head as to not upset her friend but to point her in the right direction. Now, when my stylist is going out of the country my hair goes into box braids for a month until she returns. It’s ridiculous that I have to plan my hair care around my stylist’s life because I can trust others to do it. So thank you for this video.
Totally agree!!! The fact is, he majority of the world has textured hair ( wavy, kinky, curly). This means every cosmetology school should require a full curriculum on textured hair care and styling. We need a network of rated, tried and tested natural haircare professionals; organized by state and area of specialty. ( i.e. braids, 2 strand twists, loose curly cuts, tighter curly cuts, color on curly hair, etc.) Let’s not even get into the attitudes regarding, having to "beat, fry, and straighten" our hair into "submission." We should be able to wear our hair curly, straight, twisted, whatever way we want and not be judged for it. Thanks BiancaRenee.❤
I suffer from “salon chair muteness” too! So relatable, thank you for this video!
YES to EVERYTHING you said. My senior prom 1992, I left the salon, drove home crying and re-washed my hair. Went to prom in my natural curly self-styled pineapple “up-do.” I also have salon chair muteness and stopped paying stylists for sub standard treatment and TERRIBLE cuts more than 20 years ago when I began to cut my own hair. It became a huge red flag to me every time I sat in a salon chair and the stylist would ask “do you ever wear your hair straight?” I knew instantly that stylist had NO idea how to handle curly hair and wanted to give me a straight cut and a blowout which would never look good after I wash and style curly at home. I decided to treat myself and I went to a great curl specialist 6-7 years ago and agree with you that they are educating and such but yeah…I do NOT have $150-$200 to spend on a cut so I continue to do my hair myself after that one visit…just didn’t feel a value in it personally. I have learned more from you and others I follow than I did from that specialist. Thank you for everything you do for us! ❤🫶🏻🙌🏻💕
I haven’t stepped in a salon for my own haircut or style in 6-7 years. Partly because they are anti-long hair (give them an inch and they take off 7, no JOKE), partly because they have no idea how to manage even WAVY hair. It’s so much worse for the curlier textures. And this was on top of having been rudely handled by condescending stylists who detested me for not knowing how to manage waves they themselves were clueless on!!! If professionals can’t act and perform professionally, then they are not professionals period.
You are so true! I literally have them show me how much they're going to trim. Sad!!!
THIS! I've bbeen rocking shoulder length hair for at least 8 years, but now I am growing it. Last December (2023) I decided I needed a haircut. I lost some 5 inches of length.
I once told a stylist I wanted her to style my hair curly. She said we aren’t doing a perm
today. I thought to myself how do you not know I have naturally curly hair. I was a teenager at the time and didn’t know how to speak up. This happened over 30 years ago and it bothers me to this day.
Girl this is one of your best videos ever, you are so on point 💯
girl I wish there was a repost option on youtube lol! straight FACTS! we still have such a long way to go 🥲
I haven’t gone to a stylist in over a decade. I’m not surprised nothing has changed
I'm a curly girl. Similar curl pattern to yours. It's a nightmare for us curly girls to go to most salons. Most stylist have no clue but to straighten the hair with chemicals. I do know how to do my own hair because like you said I've been doing it all my life. In the past I've gone to a "popular brand name" hair school just for a shampoo/condition/scalp cleaning treatment. I tell the stylist in advance that they don't have to style my hair because most of the time they wouldn't know how to anyways. Keep preaching for us naturally curly girls sister. By the way I've not had a chemical in my hair for over 15 years...I'm real deal natural. 🙂
I completely Agree! I remember going to a “professional” stylist 20 yrs ago to get my hair done for prom after my regular stylist bailed on me, and when I tell you I was in TEARS!! I almost didn’t go to prom after seeing the birds nest that women left on my head. I still don’t trust hair stylist 😢😢
I agree with everything you said. In education, we have to renew our teaching licenses every few years. In between those renews, we are required to stay up to date on curriculum through professional developments and classes. I feel if you work with the public, you should constantly stay up to date. Society is constantly evolving, and more people are embracing their natural hair texture ❤!
Thank you for voicing what so many of us have been feeling for years! I feel your pain and hope more stylists will advocate for learning how to not only style but also cut curly hair. We are a huge market!
You going off on this video and I'm all for it 😂
I wish I would take this 4C fro to a super cuts LOL! We’d just be looking at each other like “welp!”
😂😂🙈🙈 so true!
I was about to go on a runway & the stylist made my hair look worse than when I wake up after tossing & turning all night in bed.
I had to go into the bathroom & use the sink to try to soak my hair & create a whole new hairstyle before going on the runway cuz I didn't want all the photos to be trash
Also, I haven't been to a salon to get a haircut in more than 10yr because I honestly expect them to over-cut it & I do not want layers in my hair.
I also just suffer with never having my hair do anything I want it to & I have 3B
It’s so frustrating that it isn’t part of the curriculum. I haven’t had my hair cut professionally in YEARRRRSSS I just cut my hair myself. I’m so grateful for your channel to help me learn my hair, I am now the hair person in my group of friends to help them get their curls back
SO TRUE! Every damn time I have gone to a “professional” I always have to do it at home because I hate the outcome. Can we also talk about “if” you do actually find a curly hairstylist they charge you a GRIP, also making you brush your hair prior to the appointment etc. Like wtf are they even doing paying 300+. It’s not even fair. I literally haven’t gone in over 15 years because I’m so upset after every appointment.
I HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR.
I HAVEN'T BEEN TO A SALON IN OVER 30 YEARS BECAUSE THEY DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT CURLY HAIR
GIRL!!!!! Let's keep going on this!!! When I moved to Boston and looked for a curly hair salon I almost had a heart attack. A 30 mins appointment is $100 minimum!!!! I even considered going to a regular salon, but then I remembered that none of them know how to deal with curly hair. Mind you I am 2c-3a curly girl, and I haven't been able to trust anyone who isn't a curly hair specialist. Short story: came across with this IG account of a hair salon, they do a beautiful job with color. They posted a video of a curly, who happened to be in my school so I know what her hair looks like... They colored it, beautifully! BUT when it came to style it I grinned! Even the stylist, who was the salon owner, looked uncomfortable, and I thought, how come none of the 'professional hair stylists' know how to do at least the basics on curly hair?!
To end my rant I wanna say that I used to get trims every 3-4 months because that's what my hair needs, now I have to pull it up to 6-8 months which is when I get to go to PR and can see my stylist.
I live in the Boston area and I’ve never had a good experience with a cut and don’t get me started on styling!! I have wavy/curly very fine, very frizzy hair. I’ve learned how to style from videos but I can’t get a good shape anywhere. I just use Manes by Mel videos to cut my hair now. It’s not exactly what I want but it’s better than any cut I’ve ever gotten.
Also, I’ve always had a picture in my head that I should feel seen and heard when I go to a salon. And after spending tons of money, I should feel and look beautiful when I leave. It’s never the case. When the stylist styles my hair, I usually look and feel ugly and resent having to pay. Now I just get the roots touched up and leave the salon with wet hair.
You hit it on the head with this one Bianca!!! Paying $300+ for a cut/color and an additional cost for styling and it looks like crap when you get out the chair! Has happened to me each and every time!!!! I can honestly say maybe one or two times it has looked OK after leaving the salon. I go home pissed after paying all this money and STILL have to use MY products to style my hair. I have 3b/3c hair and stylists always tend to use products that are NOT for my type and won't hold through the car ride home! Girl you did it with this one!!!!
Before finding a curly hair salon, I would bring scarves or hats to my appointments and cover my hair as soon as I left the salon. I never once walked out of a salon properly styled so could never go out directly after an appointment. You pay all that money just to go home and restyle. My current stylist went to NYC to learn the Diva cut on her own. I will also mention that in a Canadian city of over a million people, we one have one curly hair salon with only 2 stylists. Bianca, I have been saying everything you're saying for years!!! Oh, and the comment about black stylists was spot on.
Absolutely! I just did it three weeks ago! I needed my hair colored and wanted my ends trimmed without having to drive 6 hours to a curly hair specialist. I have been to this person and she knows how to comb through my hair without hurting me, she knows what products to use and even has implemented some of these products for use and purchase in a predominately white salon. Did I mention that she is white with biracial kids? She is not great with styling my hair but tells me that before I sit in the chair. She also tries by watching videos and asking questions. I always am prepared to either style my own hair after the service or do it again when I get home before going anywhere else in public. Will I continue to go to her? Yes , I will because she tries! I totally agree that this is something that needs to be taught before getting your professional license.
Yes its about listen and to try...to be honest about your skills but willing to learn.How can you trust a hairdresser when you have the feeling your hair is a burden to them?!
As a retired hairstylist I completely agree. Unfortunately what you’re looking at is a systemic issue. Our licenses, which do expire btw, are issued by the state government. So every school has a curriculum they are required to follow as set down, by the state board. In order for the curriculums to start changing, the state boards must decide to change them. It’s a state by state systematic issue, that will only be fixed when enough money is thrown at the problem.
That being said, please don’t hide your feelings from your stylist. You’re paying for a service, and we can’t fix a problem we don’t know is there. Sure don’t be a jerk, but the best learning experience I’ve ever gotten was when my client said, I would really prefer if we tried this instead. Your being happy with the service, is more important than then your stylist liking the service.
Yeeeees! Omg! I completely agree. Luckily I found a great stylist 11 years ago that specializes in textured hair of all kinds. And she’s an Asian woman!! 👏🏽👏🏽
Interesting because the only woman who will do my hair in a shop full of caucasian women is an Asian woman. The rest of them refuse to touch me. She will wash and cut it ( my hair is wavy, I'm bi racial kinda 3a,b) or sometimes I blow it out before I come. The others will cut it if I straighten it
I am so thankful for you. Before I found you I didn't even realize I HAD curly /wavy hair. I just thought it was "frizzy" and "hard to manage" . You taught me how to style my hair and that there were products that were best for my hair. You SAVED my hair ❤
You are so welcome! That is exactly why I do what I do! 🥰
Yes I have the "salon muteness" too....thankfully all I wear is wash and go's now so I probably never go to a salon again in my life.
I am man. I have mainly 3B curl type. I've lost most faith in hair salons in Southern California. I dont know how many times I've been in a hair salon and/or barber chair, and they take a FINE toothed comb and scissors while examining my hair shimmying left and right like I'm a damn science project...
So, wait, I'll ask again. Do you know how to cut curly hair?
...Uh, yea. Fah sho man, I gotchu.
So, why don't I SEE or FEEL confidence coming from you?
...
Bro/Mami BYE!
Curl friends, trust your GUT! Its happened TOO many times to us. Dont be fooled!
Bianca Renee. Keep spreading the love gurl! Much love and positive vibes to you. 💯 felt this video (and I never watch people rant, but you got it mama!) 👍🏽
PEACE.
19:50 the crazy thing is that some people will be shocked to hear this! Thank you thank you thank you for talking about it this!
Girl you went in........ I definitely understand. I have sat in the salon chair many times and have been asked right off the bat how to I style my hair type, which is 3C because they were more used to 4c and Im sitting there like you are the one with the license, really!!
You doing a lot of preaching here and all truth!!! I learned from you, CurlieCrys, and Kimberly Cherell. Y’all helped me a bunch to master my curls. There is one hair stylist that helped me with product choices and he had to learn what products work.
I watched your flaxseed gel video 7 years ago & I'm so happy to see you're still making videos 🥰
I totally agree with you! This is ridiculous! It can be frustrating when professional hairstylists lack knowledge about curly hair, especially considering the unique care and techniques required to maintain and style it properly. Curly hair varies in texture, curl pattern, and needs, and not having expertise in these areas can lead to damaging practices or unsatisfactory results. It highlights a gap in cosmetology education, which sometimes prioritizes straight hair techniques over textured hair. Ideally, all hairstylists should be trained in the diverse range of hair types so they can provide the best service for all clients. Inclusivity in beauty services is key, especially as more people embrace their natural curls.
The curriculum needs to change ASAP. You are absolutely correct. Also, why pay $25k for school and spending over $2k for curly cutting class. I can't understand it for the life for me.
Finally, someone who feels my pain, I gave up trying to go to a hair salon. I had to go home and re-do my hair after spend money on professional styles
Girl! Yes. Paying an arm and a leg for you to come home and fix it. I hate it.
Yassss!!! All the time. I go home immediately to rewash to style my hair. Also … The trim or cut is always different. Ms Bianca, I am an experienced young person (67 yrs old) I just learned to work with my beautifully curly hair in my fifties!!! You are that person who made my transition and hair care for my curly hair work. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU ARE DOING so we can all shine in our natural glory.
So true! I still have a love/hate relationship with my curly hair but try to feel more neutral about it. One of the reasons I wish I had straight hair is because I could just walk into any professional salon and know I'd get a good haircut. I wouldn't have to do all this research, digging for the stylists work, or asking around. It's mentally exhausted to the point where I just don't even want to get my hair cut anymore. I'd rather just ask my mom to give me a trim
I am a nervous wreck right now!
My daughter and I both need a proper cut and color for me. I am located in the Northern California area- if you have any recommendations please share! Greatly appreciated 🥰
I live in Atlanta, GA and here there is a new trend of Head Spas, where you go and get a hair/scalp treatment that focalizes on massaging and relaxation. Out of all the salons that have opened up, I have not seen one tailor to curly hair aftercare. The procedure once the head spa is completed, there is a room where there is a mirror and blow dryer. The norm is for clients to "blow dry" their hair so that they don't leave with wet hair. If us curly girls use only a blow dryer for the aftercare.... we would be lookin A HOT MESS walking out..... Their pages will intentionally mentioned that they also cater to curly girls but their after care says quite the opposite. The idea sounds amazing to get a head massage but I refuse to give any of them my money if the expectation is for me to bring in my own hair products and do it myself after.... Had to rant. Your rant inspired my rant that hadn't been vocalized yet. I hope others have noticed what I'm noticing because it's not right. Anyway, love you Bianca and thank you for speaking out on these issues that all of us have either experienced or noticed!
I've wanted to try this but won't due to them having to style my hair afterwards.
I live in Atlanta too and saw an ad for one yesterday. I immediately went to the FAQs because I was like “what do they do with your hair afterwards?” And of course they said they just blow dry. What really got me was them saying depending on how curly or could your hair is, the don’t recommend the scalp treatments because it will lead to your hair being tangled but my question is, why not just detangle May hair once you’re done with the scalp massage? And maybe have an option to just braid my hair or something if I don’t want it blown out. It’s like damn, just because I have curly or coil hair I can’t enjoy this form or self care smh.
@@chocolatelover9109 Yessss!!!! Exactly!!! I keep seeing the same thing! Ridiculous… so comforting to know I’m not the only one who shares this frustration!!
AMEN! I have been natural for over 20 years and it has been a roller-coaster. Everything from the "snatching" as they did not know how to detangle, to not using enough conditioner, suggesting we relax it "just a bit to loosen the curl", etc. Many black stylists used products that were too strong for my 3C curls. I've had months where I did not even want to try to fix my hair, because it needed time to heal from the last appointment. You and Mell changed my life with knowledge, products, and empowerment. Have been using the same stylist for years. She is a white lady, working for Aveda salons, that paid to take a Ouidad course years ago. Her cuts are good, but styling is just okay. Nice thing is she is open to learning, so I go to most appointments with a new brush or product. Always have a hair clip, scarf, and gel with me...just in case. Often have left with wet hair, simply because it was easier. An Aveda session has never been cheap, so it would be nice to have it look nice for at least a few days. I remember the days when I had relaxed hair and left the salon feeling pretty.
Agree with you, I had to restyle my hair after leaving the salon and is very frustrating
Ugh! I'm so sorry that happened! 😩
@@BiancaReneeToday thank you
I'm so close to learning how to cut my own hair. The cuts I've had with curly hair stylists have mostly been fine but they always assume every curly or wavy haired person needs a TON of moisture. But my virgin hair loves protein and is really easily over moisturized so it always takes multiple washes to get it back to normal. I'm over it
Yes yes and yes!!! I agree with everything, you just nailed it!!! Where do I sign?!
I genuinely felt the frustration here !! I went to a salon for what I would call my “birthday transformation” paid 300$ to leave so unhappy. The stylist literally only put OIL in my hair after we bleached it bc she didn’t even have ANY curly hair products!!!! I was in shock when she asked the BRAIDER next to our booth for some products !! First & last time I would ever step into a salon again !!
Can we take a moment to discuss the stylists who create a frizzy tangled mess with a diffuser? I have 2b/2c waves and don't even trust a stylist to come close to me with a diffuser 🫠
I can't tell you how many times I've called ahead to ask if the stylist or braider knows how to style natural black hair, and I leave the appointment with my hair looking horrible. I usually just go home and cry and try to fix it the next day.
OH MY GOSH!! this video is so needed. I stopped going to salons for this exact reason! I have tried just going to salons for treatments and trims for a long....... time and just styling it on my own because I was tired of going to the salon and getting home and looking like a cheapet. I finally realized I had to figure out how to treat and style my hair myself when I got pregnant with my daughter and thought I cant have her deal with the same issues. Thanks to You tubers like you (love your channel!!) I have learned so... much that know I have been able to pass on my knowledge to others. It took me a long time to love my hair and I wanted her to know her hair is beautiful too. Many of these stylists only know how to style and has no clue how to take care of hair especially curly tight coiled textured hair. It is truly sad to know that product lines have grown so much buy the hair professionals have not.
YES THIS. Also - what on earth is with professional hairstylists claiming they are a ‘curly stylist’ after taking a single diva curl workshop. I had a curly hairstylist LOAD my hair up with leave in conditioner and hairspray - my fine 2c hair was plastered to my scalp, hard, dry ; yet greasy at the same time. 175.00 for a REGULAR long layered cut and this styling l - and i had to shower when I got home🙃. The sad fact is this is not a one off.
I got a diva cut a few years back and omggg it was terrible 😢 haven’t gone to a professional since.
Oh gosh yes - I have gotten to the point please trim and leave it alone thanks! I have to say you’re right this channel has helped many including myself and both children.
Yes!! I love this so much, you truly educated me on how to care for my curls! I agree that curly hair was always viewed as poofy or frizzy. I’m grateful ai have found a hair tech who listens to my wants for my hair cut and how I like my hair styled.
I've done it. Thank you for saying all this. It's so important for everyone to hear!!
Yes!! I suffer from salon chair muteness too. 😅😅 I know what you mean about the older generation not knowing about curly hair. I actually kearney everything from you!! Even for my kids. ❤
I’m glad you came in here and talked about this.
Thank you for vlogging. I learned so much from your vlogs on my natural hair journey! None of the hair salons I went to since my teens even suggested that I could wear my natural hair! Going natural is the best thing I have ever done with my hair. It is healthier, easier and less time consuming thanks to vloggers like you!!🎉
You’ve definitely taught me majority of what I know about caring for my natural hair. I don’t use sulfate, straighten my hair, or use silicones anymore bc of you and my hair is thriving!!!! It is longer and healthier than it’s ever been.
Your skin is glowing 🌟
I once told a stylist I wanted her to style my hair curly. She said we aren’t doing a perm
today. I thought to myself how do you not know I have naturally curly hair. I was a teenager at the time and didn’t know how to speak up. This happened over 30 years ago and it bothers me to this day.
On the other hand, a few years after the above incident I found a stylist who could bring my curls to life. I wish I could find her again now that I’m embracing my natural curls.
You taught me how to take care of my curls and I thank you for that!
I AGREE! where i live it is extremely hard to find stylists that cut curly hair. My stylist was taught by her teacher how to cut curly hair and she was the only one in her class who was taught. She cuts, washes, and styles my hair all for $50 dollars. I think it's super reasonable!! And she gets clients with curls much tighter than mine. She is the first stylist I have had that makes me feel seen finally!
Hey, B! I’ve been there too many times! I have been cutting/doing my own hair now for years!
Well said! I have 3C curls and the number of stylist that can’t do anything decent with my hair is sad! I used to always go home and re-wet my hair and style it myself. Paying top dollar and getting crap in return. I finally found an awesome stylist at Ulta who actually knows what to do with curly hair. I love your videos and you hit the nail on the head with this video. 👩🏽🦱
Been there many times. So I decided never to go back to a professional stylist ever again. I trim, cut and manage my own hair.❤
You don’t understand how much you helped me with my curly hair routine. ❤️🫶🏽Can you please do another video even if it’s just a RUclips short or leave me a comment picking out your top three favorite products in different categories especially in a leave in conditioner and a deep conditioner if you could only choose three. I watched your older video similar to this one and I’m still using those products today, but I’m excited to try something new and I trust what you recommend if I could try it all I would!
i love everything about this video!! it’s so real & unfortunately so true
Went to a curl hair stylist and ran out crying. She did not know how to style my hair, cut way too much (which I asked not to do) and made me look like a mushroom. I had to go home and “fix it” as much as I could and wait for it to grow out. It was NOT cheap! The struggle is real!
I have had to go home and redo my hair EVERY time I've gone to the stylist. Even after seeing a "curly hair specialist".
Well i never have a cut for curls, but i actually learn how to style it and care for it with you, love you!
I once paid $200 for a haircut I hated. Curly haircuts are so expensive and even still, you’re not guaranteed to like what you come out with.
Now that I’m a mother I only get my hair cut once a year because of the price, otherwise I have to maintain and trim myself. It’s just not right 🥲
I'm a Teacher and our licenses expires and we need to do "X" amount of hours of professional development to keep up with the field, and many other fields are the same. This industry should change! You are completely on the point! Change the curriculum, trial every type of texture, hair porosity and lengths, and then you can graduate.
Gurl!!!’ I’m so glad you finally addressed this. It’s crazy right? You are so on point with this. Amazing it’s 2024!!!! Thank you for bringing this to light!!!! U have so much respect for you and your channel. You have no idea how many times I’ve shared your channel with my family and friends. And when I say friends I mean the whole spectrum melting pot!!! You have educated so many of us. Thank you !!!!
Love the idea of the curly hair test on the license! Or, like you mentioned with doctors, have people that specialize in certain hair texture areas.
I said the same thing when I joined cosmetology school. Trying to learn how to take care of my own curly hair was a big motivation. Like you said, maybe one chapter if you're lucky. I learned more after I graduated by watching a bunch of youtube vidoes. Like yours. So to that I say, thank you.
When I was in college I tried a regular salon a couple times and it went terribly so, since I'm biracial and have similar hair to yours I thought I'd try a black salon. You are so right just because they're black does not mean they know how to style curly hair. Not only did they cut way too much hair off but it was styled so poorly. The closest I've ever had my hair done well was one diva curl stylist and not even all of them are good. I just trim and style my own hair now.
I can relate ! its so hard finding a good hairstylist
It’s honestly worse than you think 😢
I’m a cosmetology instructor and I’ve taught on all types of hair but it’s super unfortunate because it’s not a requirement in the state of California for the students to even touch a curly client before graduating. I’ve gotten in trouble from the school directors before for “making” a student work on a curly hair client because it made her anxious even though I was mainly doing the client, the student was merely being guided as she assisted me. In the state of California -since Covid - it is no longer required for any cosmetology students to take a hands on test. They just need to pass a written exam after they have graduated. They also don’t need to do well on any clients of doll heads throughout the duration of school (depending on the school-because they are privately owned) they are only required to attempt it and not miss any steps. For example they are tested on a blow out but the finished product is not considered.. they just need to do all the steps and demonstrate safety and take precautions to protect the client. It’s really sad. It drives me crazy.
Just to clarify; there is no practical hands on licensing exam anymore, only a written exam. There are practical hands-on tests for things such as a manicure, updo, blow out, color retouch, relaxer etc but they are only graded on doing the steps and being safe. Not graded on the outcome
WHAT!!! OMG sharing this comment. This is literally crazy!! What does the word “professional “ even mean???? 🙈🙈 Thanks for sharing and taking the time to care about multiple textures ❤️
This is true. Most black stylists have to learn to style ethnic hair on their own. Not only that, I heard stylists get points taken off their score at schools for taking too long to do curly/4c hair when those styles take longer to do correctly.
What!!! That’s crazy!!
There was a gal in town that a lot of curly folks go to and recommended. So I scheduled an appointment, showed up, sat down, and she told me “lets wash your hair and straighten it” 😵💫 I tried to explain to her that I get my hair cut dry and in its natural state and we ended the appointment there and I went back to my regular hair stylist
I'm 30 years old and I'm just now learning to love my curly hair after growing up in a household where I was told my 4C hair is "nappy" and was constantly straightened with a hot comb.
My hair became severely damaged and after years of RUclips in my mid 20s I started to learn how to take care of my curly hair. I still can't "do" my hair on my own (I mainly just wear wash and go's) but I've learned how to properly moisturize my hair so that it's not loaded with oil and grease like it has been my entire childhood lol
Finally the truth is out! Another amazing video! It's wonderful to feel seen ❤❤
OMG yes, I can't even find a curly hair stylist. I have made it a point not to let anyone touching my hair because of the experiences I've had.👏👏👏👏👏