Based on this title, I could definitely see The Boys sharing the fate of Rick and Morty where fans start to believe there's a correlation between watching the show and intelligence and ruin it for everyone else.
I can see your point though the difference is the boys actually has something to say, beyond the superhero critique. I mean not to like upset anyone but homelander is literally trump lmak
Lol they got their powers before they became famous, the point of the show is humans are pathetic and you cant give us any power at all or we will abuse it, the more power you have the more likely you are to abuse it and theres a point where anyone would. If you give anyone homelanders powers they would be sitting on a throne of bodies as the king of the world very quickly.
@@pokemonfan2630 I agree I’ve always saw it more as like “Power Corrupts” so real life Humans becoming superheroes would not be as pure as comic books make you think it would be or rather not EVERYBODY would be actual good people
@@pokemonfan2630 If I had homelanders powers I'd just be a successful bounty hunter or hitman. Other than that, I'd be chilling. 2 months later edit: Scratch what ever I said 2 months ago. I would fucking murder EVERY THING WITHIN TH--
@@ED-LETRICAL Lmao what? You do realize socialism hasn't been implemented yet? It isn't a scam, it's pretty honest about what it wants. A more equitable society where the workers run their businesses
Well, the show isn't written by amazon. If you want to get your story across to the masses, you come into contact with big companies. On the one hand, this is a necessary evil, on the other hand, as a creative person, you must try to use destructive capitalist excesses for yourself, for your vision. You can make them work for you even if your social criticism attacks them.
I like how this Show has in one form or another Elements discussed on the YT-Channels Some-More-News and Second-Thought. Both are what i call 'Issue-listing Type' of RUclipsr. Being that Type is the Reason they cover everything from Uvalde to Droughts, from Politician-Roasts to Dystopias. Aaand of course all the Droughts and Water-Problems we currently start to get.
Yeah honestly it's not like this show is ridiculously deep or dark? Like 'ohoho superheros... But what if they're bad??" Like yeah it has a lot of commentary on capitalism and consumer society but it's all incredibly surface level ("what?? People love homelander?? But he's bad actually!!?!), Not exactly like you need a galaxy brain to understand and interpret the themes
My points worded perfectly. The Boys takes place in the real world, the heroes can be cancelled, they're featured on the news, they have accidents, it's all about preserving their image. In Marvel, you never truly get the perspective or reaction of the average people, that's what I think is missing. Thor and Black Panther for example are both kings but I have no clue what their subjects think of them update; Woah😶, I love how salty this comment made some people. Relax guys, it's called an opinion😂
It merely illustrates the lack of creeativity and current forced agendas that have RUINED the fantasy genre. For the most part it is a sick joke while the MCU has declined so this series appears to be better than it really is. Eric Kripke has made a incorrigible sick joke into a pretty good series with the DEPTH of his characters and writing... The MCU could be as good or even better, but they are lazy, unfocused and jam characterization . Its a shame, really.
Well from watching Ms Marvel, all the Avengers basically have events, merchandise, memorials, statues, podcasts etc. They’re also treated like celebrities in the MCU
My favourite scene is Black Noir with the cartoons that helped him through his trauma. In one scene, Kripke turned the silent assassin from a person you hated to probably the most tragic character of the show. Bravo!
Black Noir was definitely not hated, everyone found how him hilarious with his body language and its silent, physical humour. That scene with the cartoons did cement him as very tragic though, I agree.
The boys is so subtle, like when homelander was asked if he was superman and he said “no, superman is gay!” That was so subtle that I barely even picked up that superman was gay and not cool unlike homelander
I like how this Show has in one form or another Elements discussed on the Channels Some-More-News and Second-Thought. Both are what i call 'Issue-listing Type' of RUclipsr.
My favourite scene is the last one in season 3, seeing a smile creep on to Ryan's face after homelander blatantly commits murder in front of dozens of people in broad daylight Is mind bending. Seeing a potential mini homelander be created is riveting, also sets up next season unbelievably well
@@murtaza69420 The Omen is horror movie about a kid who is the anti-christ. He comes as an innocent boy, and most of the horrible things that happens in the movie are not his faults, but from an external evil power that protects him. At the very end of the movie, he smiles at the camera, meaning that he has accepted his fate and the evil within him
@WomenHateShortMen 🧐 the boys is not about fun, its about criticism and sending a message to real world. sure you will have some fun from gore dark comedy and nudity but thats is not the point.
@@hellz23456 an episode was named herogasm and an earlier episode had a size change superhero go up someone’s @ss what grand message was being written there? Or is it just more shock value schlock going back to the comics roots.
@WomenHateShortMen 🧐 Thing is MCU was fun but also good story telling and a well written over arching villain in Thanos. After that however Phase 4 has been pretty shit with only No way home being good. The Boys however is a well written fantastic comicbook show far better than the Disneyplus crap.
@@thedude4840 Those were short hilarious scenes sprinkled in throughout the season whilst the overarching story is fantastic and well written. It’s like comparing couple of comedy scenes from Civil War instead of seeing it for the bigger picture.
bro cmon... I prefer the boys too, but don't u think that saying a show that you watch is "for thinking people" just a little boastful and prepotent? Maybe you're not the MCU's target audience, but that doesn't mean you're smarter than their audience...
That’s what I’ve kinda started to see recently that all the boys fans think they are some godly being because they think the boys is better than every other superhero content like it’s great but it’s ok to like different types of studf
Have you been missing how awful MCU fans have been? This is a breath of freaking Fresh air. Not everyone wants to be hit over the head every five seconds with poor jokes and even worse writing.
@@NineToFiveGamerUC0079 ??? I'm a MCU fan, whats your point? Dosent madder what you whant or not, U cant think that something that u watch is better than what others watch Just bcause u are "smarter". Art is subjective lol. People forget infinity war? Winter soldier? NWH? Guardians of the freaking Galaxy? Or maybe you forgot French's and Kimikos arc in the boys' last season... Just saying, I love them both, but neither is perfect...
@@janeduardodesouzadickmann3639 I really would not call any MCU movie art hell you wanna call the boys art I will not agree but I will be quiet. But MCU really? Describe how any of the movies you mentioned is art. They are good movies but I don't see any of them as art.
It doesn’t exactly help that the MCU is having an identity crisis and has no idea what it wants to do with itself at this point in time. DC has been having this issue for damn near 10 years and I think only now are they starting to realize that their live action projects are better when they aren’t connected with everything else, that being said I still think they have a little ways to go before they truly get a decent foothold in the live action films
New rick and morty meme lol "it takes an extremely high IQ to understand the subtle parodies in the boys" . But no seriously everything is so ridiculously on the nose I honestly love it
@@TheLithp I want to believe you but yet here I sit with a show that straight up has people wearing word for word recreations of political slogans and Twitter hashtags that added a word from the show. And the total subtlety of a character calling a real world politician a gooch licker gee what could it mean.
I’m a Marvel fan, but damn do I love The Boys. It’s not formulaic, or cookie cutter. It’s raw, graphic, and has depth even though it’s suppose to be a parody. I love everything about this show because it makes you think this is how superheroes could be in the real world.
@@enviousshade1770 yep, i kinda sad people calling Homeland a superhero, having power don't make nobody a superhero This is my problem with most "evil Superman" tropes
@@enviousshade1770 Well even Gods in Greek and Norse myths have proven to be very abusive. Whether it's a human with godlike powers or a God with powers, Mothers Milk said it best, "No one should have that kind of power." No matter who it is, they'll get carried away and end up abusing their powers.
@@leni4179 I haven’t watch the show, but I don’t know why everyone is calling them superheros if they are just celebs that also do messed up stuff. I hear that there are actual superheros in the show, but why is everyone calling the dudes that are clearly not so morally good people as “superheros”? Hell I would call them supervillain if anything, but idk if that’s too much or not, but I’m just not calling Homelander as a superhero, or even a “flawed hero”.
The boys is truly one of the best series, you need to finish college and ace on your science,math and english. I watched the boys and it melted the fuck out of my brains because of too much data I'm absorbing. When butcher said "me wife's son" it expanded my data library. Do not watch the series if you're 40IQ below!
I’ll never get over how “The Boys” has so many jokes about how corporations use feminist message, or gay pride messages to promote their brand, without backing it up. But then end with a scene of all the woman characters beating an evil supervillain Nazi.
That’s the point. “Girls really get it done” The boys showed the correct way to do it. In Endgame you have a bunch of super powered people but fighting but all the wins gather up for??? But in the boys the woman are the only super powered wools in that scene slit actually makes sense. That was the pay off. You saws the whole purpose of the scene. Especially since in the beginning storefront was shown to be a feminist (which doesn’t make her instantly a good person as you find it she’s a nazi) the boys critiqued and elevated that endgame cringe scene perfectly and it seems like it went straight over your head. three super powered woman curb stomping a nazi-feminist is pure gold.
That’s the point. “Girls really get it done” The boys showed the correct way to do it. In Endgame you have a bunch of super powered people but fighting but all the woma gather up for??? But in the boys the woman are the only super powered people in that scene so actually makes sense. That was the pay off. You saws the whole purpose of the scene. Especially since in the beginning storefront was shown to be a feminist (which doesn’t make her instantly a good person as you find out she’s a nazi) the boys critiqued and elevated that endgame cringe scene perfectly and it seems like it went straight over your head. three super powered woman curb stomping a nazi-feminist is pure gold.
@@seabreeze4559 your comment is really stupid. They are super powered beings. What? You think a woman with super strength isn’t going to use it due to masculinity😂 seriously what? Also they did expose her … did you miss the part of stormbreaker attacking the boys until kimiko, Maeve, and starlight come in …. What? Are they supposed to talk it out haha.
Saying this show is for thinking people makes anyone who says it sounds moronic, especially since all of the satire and criticism within the show are surface level.
No, it’s about how society treats celebrities and the problems of modern society. It’s not about superheroes or powers. Realistically, if people got superpowers then it would only be military people. Also this show pretends good people don’t exist and for the sake of the story I’m fine with that but in real life there are good people and there would be good people with superpowers. Superheroes as a concept could not work because there is simply not enough crime. A real life superhero wouldn’t be a hero; just a dude with powers. I don’t like when people say this show is realistic because that’s false. This show never talks about superheroes and I can’t even say it’s a superhero parody because the focus is on society not the superheroes themselves. The season finale ended with a trump rally; this show is not about superheroes.
@@shazam6942 Except everything he said is variously either wrong or beside the point. The show doesn't really deal with "good & evil" as such, but Starlight & Maeve are treated as genuinely heroic figures. Also, the fact that it deals with modern society IS why it's called realistic, that's not mutually exclusive. If a super power formula existed in the real world, it would likely be owned by a corporation, & we would see that corporation create a system very similar to what Vought did.
I watched thor and i got to say after all the serious tone and writing the boys has to offer i felt very underwhelmed. I finished the movie and just go home dying to watch the final episode
Excuse me, a bit of a rant incoming: Incidentally I watched Thor right after the final ep of the Boys. It honestly ruined the movie and made it almost disturbing. The scene where Thor was trying to comfort those kidnapped kids immediately reminded me of Homelander. The part where he just... kills Zeus with 0 effort or thought only compounded the notion. Then there was the whole thing about him becoming a father, which was framed only as a means of magically resolving his identity crisis. After all, we don't see him soothing a traumatised child. Instead she's a regular kid who's just as goofy as him despite literally starving to death, being brought back to life and seeing her real father vanish right in front of her and perhaps even finding out what became of him (a murderous maniac). Making the movie a comedy despite its events made it feel like someone's retelling of the story with some PR work sprinkled in... which it is.
Welcome to what it's been like being a DC fan for the past few years. After watching superhero movies that actually try to tell stories without leaning into constant jokes feels so rare today
Maeve, Annie & Kimiko beating up Stormfront isn’t a parody of the #GirlPower scenes in Marvel it’s them doing it well, the whole forced #GirlsGetItDone thing Vought is trying to push is a parody/satire on that.
It's not that deep bro, come on. It's fun to watch, it's a good series. But this whole fandom is turning into the "You have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty" circlejerk.
@@mayonnaise3959 He's not saying the show's bad, he said it's good. He's making fun of the fans that think it's super niche and deeply intelligent to the point where only smart people get it. The show is very good but is very obvious in it's messaging meaning you don't have to think too hard while watching it.
Oooh look at me I'm mr big man smarty-pants, I eat philosophy books for breakfast. It ain't that deep, trust me bruh, I once looked and the picture of Nietzsche and he looked back!
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand The Boys. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Billy Butcher's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterization- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realize that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike The Boys truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Billy Butcher's existential catchphrase "Diabolical", which itself is a cryptic reference to Diablo the fallen angel of Christian mythology. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Eric Kripke's genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools.. how I pity them. 😂 And yes, by the way, i DO have a The Boys tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothing personnel kid 😎
Y'all really trying the rick and morty arguement claiming The Boys is an intelligent show? It's a simple concept. What if superheroes were dicks and controlled by corporations. The latter concept was briefly spoofed in Mystery Men.
Well, now, thanks to this video, I can actually put into words my problem with The Boys (or better say with some people who watch The Boys). It's that many people who watch it think that watching it makes them "Thinking People". No, it does not. People who say that are just mirrored audience of MCU (with the addition of calling Marvel movies "Disney schlock"). This show is not very hard to understand and it doesn't raise very complicated issues. It is a simple show, nothing more.
Right? this guy is so far up his own ass its crazy. the boys is entertaining but that's it. This isn't some epic tale to shape our generation like this guy seems to think.
Yeah, I've always thought of this as more of a corporate human focus stuff approach to superhero media. Not at all being one some different plane of parody, as this show also sometimes can't help but indulge in itself.
I think we can all agree that it's a good series with all the metaphors and satire but it doesn't require in depth analysis or video essays. It's pretty much all laid out in the show itself. Videos like this will make it cringe.
This is so true. I love the MCU movies but phase 4 has been lackluster. It's become formulaic. The Boys was such a breah of fresh air as it was SO different from what we've seen in the past Super Hero genre. Set in the real world with actual consequences. It does everything that the MCU under Disney can't do and does it extremely well. Even Invincible as an animtated series was more compeling then most of the new MCU movies.
@@artcorbeau i guessed that, just like season two, the newcomer soldier boy would be disposed of but not truly killed after a fight, and that a few at risk characters would also be killed off/indisposed. just like what happened with stormfront and becca, and even madelyn stillwell
@@nicerock5506 but did you predict that soldier boy would have allied himself with the boys ? that he was hl's father, did you predict what happened between sb & hl after they discovered they were family ? did you predict that butcher would help hl in the final fight ?
The real “thinking people” are the people who can watch both and not think that makes them better lol or the people that watch one and not the other for whatever reasons and also not think they’re better
The show does a really great job reflecting how media works in our world. Memes, videos, self-image, all that horseshit. The most powerful people on the planet need media for their egos. Its great.
the boys fans be like "holy shit the cop supe said "all lives matter",,,, i feel like this might be like a friggen analogy or something?!!! wow im so smart for noticing this"
the boys fans soyfacing after starlight tells a sociopath "yeah u think ur all that but ur just a small man in a big suit!!!! actually i feel bad for you!!!""
the boys director realising his audience is made of sub 80 iq apes, and having to show homelander is upset by making him vibrate in anger while sound effects play
“The show for thinking people” is ridiculous, I love the boys but it’s not very deep at all, it relies on shock value and gore and being edgy it’s best attribute is how it balances so many characters. I really don’t understand why people have to put down something else to like another thing, I love marvel and dc, I love Star Wars and the boys, I love superhero films and art house films
That’s why this dude has his subscriber count private his takes are absolute trash! I am not a fan of the show but I am fan of the concept and its potential to spark real conversations about mental health, racism, corporate manipulation of the masses, and the list goes on but ironically all these fanboys for example this RUclipsr and by his own words “thinking people” don’t want to do shit but idolize the show for its shock value half ass horror elements! Like legit dude spent maybe days making a 15 minute video glorifying unnecessary in the most pretentious way possible.
The Boys is Definitely a very compelling and unique series.Extremely disfunctional ..It brings me back to the uniqueness of the “Watchmen” movie. Unfortunately the DCEU will run as far away from the Snyderverse as possible and the MCU had become completely lame after the greatness of the infinity saga.
I watched Thor love and thunder and I was in complete shock with how childish and parody like that movie was. The character of Thor has become completely bastardized in the same way hulk has. That movie has done irreparable damage to Thor and the mcu.
MCU is still fun to watch. Spider-Man especially. Y'all are just salty that it's not on Infinity Saga level. Eternals and Doctor Strange are actually pretty good without a hater whispering in your ear otherwise.
Just reading off the the title but I think in terms of that you’re right and wrong. Now is the time for MCU to evolve, people liked the subtle horror of Doctor Strange MOM. Disney needs to focus less on the children and more on the actual marvel community, marvel can be deep, dark, serious, honest. Idk hopefully they can do it.
Me: reads the title. Also me: "Don't fool yourself. Only until the next Avengers movies comes out. "The Boys" exist because of Marvel, DC, Dark Horse, and probably Image too.
Two different kinds of stories. The Avengers are about Stan Lee’s hope and faith in humanity. The Boys reflects its creator’s disdain for any of that. Marvel is about, more than anything, the concept of noblesse oblige. The heroes all subscribe to Peter Parker’s mantra to one degree or another. They are humanity’s hope. Those who stumble into power and do the right thing. The villains and monsters are inevitably those who pursue power. It’s one reason Tony Stark has skirted than line again and again, with variants going full dictator. But few people in media actually bother to analyze this side of anything, so of course it appears superficial to those not paying particular attention. The Boys show is more about corporate manipulation and celebrity culture. Public relations. Advertising. Not that Marvel hasn’t touched on these things in the comics to one extent or another. But as Stan himself said in an editorial way back when, their primary purpose is entertainment. But if they can promote mutual understanding and humanitarianism along the way, all the better. We desperately need to be having the conversation about Noblesse oblige we’re very determinedly are refusing to have. But blood, gore, and cynicism are fun. Yep. They are. I enjoy the show. I think the comic is trash, personally, because the author totally doesn’t get the point. Then again, I honestly don’t think a lot of people do. Which is weird, because it’s not subtle. It’s about anyone with any power getting to decide how to use it. As Ultimate Gwen Stacy put it, whatever you’re good at, well that’s your superpower. And as the new Cap put it, “What are you going to do with that power?” But, yay! Cynicism. Because that’s definitely what we need right now.
I mean, fuck… Maeve did the right thing and had a good outcome. She got EXACTLY what she wanted, minus one eye. That’s one moment of self sacrifice for a reward. How much self sacrifice has every Avenger have to shoulder before a CHANCE at a good outcome? I can’t believe all y’all can’t tell why these things are different. It’s not that one is superior to the other. It’s their very different purposes.
I agree. It's a damn shame when people don't get as excited for the prospect of a true, compassionate and optimistic Superman movie, but want more 'realistic, gory, brutal, and dark' superheroes. It's as if people secretly haven't grown out of their teenage phases.
Thank you, people keep comparing two different things. The Boys is not a superhero show at all. It’s even about the superheroes; it’s about the media and society. There was never a point in the show that showed someone who genuinely tried to be good-we only see every supe as an asshole. The Boys has its place but it goes against everything that superheroes stand for and it shouldn’t even be consider in the same genre. Even edgy and gory movies like The Suicide Squad aren’t cynical. The Suicide Squad actually gave the villains morals while The Boy is amoral at times. There is no message about right or wrong and that’s the core of a superhero story. The Boys only shows the wrong and never an alternative. I do the hope The Boys would at least end the show with everyone realizing people are the problem not the supes so that the viewers of the show could exactly understand what the show is about instead of adapting it’s nihilistic view on the world.
This one right here. MCU is basically fairytales, and they treat them as fairytales with an ocassional revelation moment here and there. I never expected anything "deep" or "realistic" from them. Maybe that's why I like Phase 4. It's all entertainment with no subtext.
This might be an unpopular opinion, but I think a simplistic story with heart and message that connects to a lot of people and gives them hope is ultimately more worth than a "gritty realistic" story that cheers for cynicism under the disguise of being "more interesting". The Boys is a great show with its own identity and message, but don't make it go into your head and think that people who find optimism enjoyable in media are far lesser for it. Heartfelt stories like Pixar movies, hopeful paragons like Superman, and fantasy authors like Tolkien connected to a lot of people worldwide and arguably made their lives much more enjoyable. The Superhero fatigue is real, but I think we never gave paragon characters like Superman a true chance to shine on the modern big screen. Superman was given to a pretentious cynical director and he turned him into an absolute bore of a character, under the guise of trying to make him more "interesting". Superman is human, sympathetic, and actually tries his best to be the symbol of justice (and sometimes he doesn't succeed), but modern cynical media never gave him a chance to be that. It perceived it as an unfeeling, unwavering god, cause that's how a character like him should be, right? There is no Clark Kent, only the Kryptonian! He could've been made into a genuine heartfelt character, but "realism" completely ruined him. And other "gritty" superman characters like homelander continue to ruin his concept. I don't really like the cynical place modern stories are going. It's consciously telling people that it's okay to follow stories of terrible people, that they are far more interesting to strive for. If we ridicule true paragons and put flawed people on the pedestal, we're agreeing to never strive to be better. (This is also why I fucking love Invincible. Despite it being so brutal, it never lets itself become cynical sludge.)
I mean, it's a show that only delivers 'Companies corrupt, everyone corrupt, people bad, supes bad, everyone bad'. Not sure what screams "Show for thinking people" about that. People get drawn in by over the top violence and gore and thats about it. The comics did the same, but they did it through over the top sexual content. There's always gotta be a part of a fanbase that claims their show is the show for smart people and shit, only to then scream for szechuan sauce like a moron.
I don’t see how this show threatens the Avengers creatively at all. Yes, it has strengths the MCU doesn’t. Plenty of people like both, for different reasons.
Because it's actually decent writing? Actually making a point that isn't drizzled in Disney nonsense? The Boys aren't a threat , MCU and it's obnoxious fans are one on their own.
I’ll always respect the original dc and Marvel universes but the boys is on a whole other level.. but .. I have to admit.. after watching a few episodes I’ll go and watch Superman save some people out of genuine compassion.. for balance lol 😝
Surely not insinuating that its impossible to have a deep mature version of the mcu? All the characters have just as much potential as the boys characters or more, disney just wont do it.
Yeah but it’s also harder for the mcu cause they have so many characters they can’t develop every character all the time like we haven’t seen falcon since his show so it’s hard to develop a these characters
they've had 10s years and have barely even tried to do what the Boys have done in less time. MCU had it's time. It's over and we want actually well written and well told stories about heroes. Not constant jokes and posturing.
@@NineToFiveGamerUC0079 well written? Not really, this is the most predictable and repetitive show on television. This is only well written if the only thing you consoom is cape shit. Well told? Yes, the boys is a fantastic exercise in making what's on the page pop.
This title has to be a joke. The Boys while great is some of the most obvious straight forward storytelling ever. Its themes and paralells are basically explained to the audience yet someone 50% of the fanbase still don't understand the show and were surprised that the show "introduced" politics in season 3. Huh wat.
i mean it beats the usual "bad guy tries to end the world and the hero saves the day with his awesome powers" that we see in Marvel movies. The most braindead content mass-produced for man-childs pretending like its "not just for children, but for adults too!!" Like you're seriously an obsessive Marvel fan as an adult? Grow up.
I like how this Show has in one form or another Elements discussed on the YT-Channels Some-More-News and Second-Thought. Both are what i call 'Issue-listing Type' of RUclipsr. Being that Type is the Reason they cover everything from Uvalde to Droughts, from Politician-Roasts to Dystopias.
Amazon: make low IQ, sleazy and ugly looking Watchmen but in show format R*dditbrain: "The Boys: The Show For Thinking People (Video Essay)" the embarrassment writes itself.
100% This show is a piece of slime brain content that only appeals to the lower common denominator. WOWZERS MY HYPERVIOLENT SHOW HAS FUNNY EVIL MAN! SO REALISTIC BETTER THAN MCUCKU!
I watch one episode of the boys and then one episode of superman and lois one after the other. One episode of gritty, high budget, hilarious superhero murder porn and then ease off with some nice idealistic, down to earth, family drama. Love them both to death.
It is a deep series. Not incredibly deep but still intricate enough for you to have to sit down for a while to process and analyze characters, events etc.
@@victory7302 nah it isn’t, it might introduce some things that can be interpreted at deep. But the chances they had to actually have deep characters they Seth Rogan it up. Their director is doing a phenomenal job even with stupid woke stuff. But these themes are as skin deep. Other then homelander who do we have?
@@victory7302 Huey is paper thin, wanting to do something to prevent what happen to his dead girlfriend. The only thing they introduced to his character is accepting the role as emasculated and loving it character. Like they couldn’t even give him any form of heroism without making him look like he was in the wrong. Butchers character is a complete fuck up, if they just stuck to his character in the comics he would’ve been loved more then homelander. But they didn’t, instead they kept his wife alive and a son through rape. So it gives him stupid character arcs he doesn’t need to have. His character should’ve been fully developed from the beginning. And we should just be hearing how he got this way. Queen mave is just a lesbian who homelander was controlling and she wanted out…. Not that deep you can maybe argue the broken hero behind the truth of the company. As for A train again other then his heart, it’s literally nothing but skin deep identity politics. Oooo BLm man that’s soo deep. Now with all that aside I enjoy the show, I do. But it isn’t deep and it’s not thoughtful. People look to deep into shallow themes giving the writers too much credit for this.
@@jameswallace3413 hughie isn’t portrayed as in the wrong for his heroic actions. I’m assuming you’re talking about starlight getting angry he takes temp compound V. He’s only portrayed as in the wrong there because he’s contradicting his own ideals. The general ideal the boys follow is that no human should have superpowers as they are still human and still subject to impulses, corruption etc. Yet hughie betrays those ideals by taking the V. He does it because he enjoys the rush of power that it gives him which is the exact pitfall that he’s trying to push superheroes out of. While the show does portray him as a pansy, it also shows that he’s managed to grow massively as a person. “If they stuck to the comics, butcher would’ve been loved.” You mean with horrible plot twist after horrible plot twist? Butcher’s going after homelander but it actually wasn’t homelander who killed his wife, it was black noir who is an exact copy of homelander who went insane for whatever reason. So then he makes the two fight each other, kills the winner, and then murders almost all of the boys. He would’ve been hated, and not in a good way like homelander. Here, we see actual growth, mutation, and humanization of a pretty 1d comics character. Given that you at least see how maeve could be a good character, I won’t stress that. You completely miss the point of a-train to the point where I wonder if you even watched any of his scenes. He’s a traditional athlete-celebrity who’s been in the limelight for so long he’s detached himself from regular people. He doesn’t understand hughie’s pain seeing his girlfriend die, and all of his apologies are shallow. However, as his plans start to unravel with the knowledge of his using compound V, and the strain it puts on his heart, he steadily starts to lose it, trying to remain a top tier as long as possible. This leads to him killing the one he loves, and out of denial of who he’s become, he focuses his hate on hughie. Once he finally goes into cardiac arrest, and hughie revives him, he realizes that his career as an athlete is essentially over and it’s only a matter of time before he falls out of favor. So he rebrands. You entirely missed the point of his BLM campaign. It was parodying how out of touch he was. He did all that stuff because he trusted his brother, not because he actually cared. He’s detached with the community he grew up in, and can only turn to poor tasteless corporate attempts to regain popularity. When this backfires with the injury of his brother, he finally comes full circle and is in the position he put hughie in. Where hughie let him live though, a-train killed blue hawk, showing that no matter how much he can relate to regular people like hughie, he can’t understand them. I could go on and on about his dynamic with hughie but this comment is long enough and you get my point. He’s satire of what you think he is.
There are many other shows with this kind of take on superhero genre, but hear out loud, the age of superhero movies where they are actually good people is never gonna end.
my favourite scene of the entire series is in the 3rd season where it is just butcher and homelander talking there is nothing else going on but yet that scene is the most amazing diabolical scenes ever made
Yeah this is something I think a lot of people who hate on the show miss. Yes the show skews liberal, heavily, but it also makes fun of the establishment on both sides. The boys isn’t as simple as republicans bad, democrats good. It says that both sides are literally fronts for the same agenda, that power stays in the hands of the few, and people stay complacent. Victoria Neumann is AOC, Homelander is Trump, Vought is fox and the establishment at the same time, but they’re really all on the same side.
@@jessewilson6705 Name one scene in the boys that makes fun or criticizes leftist views/politics And just so you know, criticizing corporations pretending to be on the left does not equal criticizing the left
One of my favorite things about The Boys is how they do a good job of connecting things. Like in Herogasm Soldier Boy mentioned him and Liberty founded it which was Stormfront’s name she went by back then.
Why would the boys be the show for “thinking people”, thinking people don’t want to turn their brains off sometimes or They always have to be doing something mentally stimulating? Think both can be enjoyed by either group for different reasons if given enough thought.
@@Blast2224 People get joy out of things that are supposed to be logical to others and some people can get logic out of what everybody else thinks as a joke. Example flat Earthers
@@killajive1 I'm with you, the world would be depressing as hell if every media was realistic like the boys. We go to the movies to escape and have fun. That doesn't mean realistic shows like the boys isn't fun, but it would be depressing if everything else was like it.
@@TobiNano I think most people don’t have a Problem with Marvel movies existing. The problem is rather the regular media shit of Releasing something every month if it makes money wich gets annoying especially if the movies overshadow other movies because Disney buys every advertisement possible
@@2070paradigmshift SPOILER ALERT : : : : : : Stormfront is a German Nazi who believes in the idea of an Aryan master race. She was around as far back as World War II, and was married to Frederick Vought who created the first Compound V formula. She also is not shy about killing, as she kills Kimoko's brother while uttering racist remarks. She also took out the upper floors of an apartment building while trying to fight Kimiko.
I like marvels alot cause it has spiderman blade the punisher luke cage jessica jones and daredevil and a couple of characters that i like in the marvels universe but i don't really care much about the avengers movie i never liked them to be honest the boys series is better than the avengers it has good acting good writing and is about the real world and also about what if super heroes exist in our real world the boys series really make sense and when you watch it it gives you a very good feeling about the show and you start to brain storm about it after you finish every season this show really does not disappoint
No one's ready for this but No Way Home wasn't that good. The entire Spiderman "Home" trilogy wasn't very good. People will go along and say Marvel's M-She-U sucks but didn't notice all the woke stuff in Spiderman because they love the character so much. Literally, Peter Parker is the only white speaking lead among a sea of people of color. His love interest, MJ is a very woke protestor Mary Sue who is active in fighting Peter's villain's henchmen in 2 movies but she is played by their crush Zendaya. The Spidey villains need to be redeemed and not die like Reva in Star Wars. They bring back legacy characters but darker and more realistic to political figures like Alex Jones. How is it different from "Woke" Star Wars? And The Boys is woke, it's just not in your face. Did you miss all the BLM protesting, Trump Rallies and allusion to the bad capitalism of Vought? You see what you want to see and only label stuff "woke" because its unnattractive to you.
The Boys will only go down as one of the best fictional series in history, as long as it continues to mock all aspects of society equally. It is filled with political and cultural piss takes. It so far hasn't made obvious which side the writers stand, which it must ensure it maintains. The moment it becomes a biased propaganda piece, the shows ruined. So far it mocks left and right stereotypes equally enough keeping the show fun, clever and refreshingly neutral.
It doesn't do it equally? That's not whats important. It does it FAIRLY. The left in this country is so laughably powerless to consistently shit on them would be ridiculous, but the ones in power - The neoliberals and the conservative liberals, those are the mother fuckers that need the shit taken on them. Always trying to sanitize culture while not addressing material horror or worse the conservatives actively trying to make it worse for everyone but a chosen few.
Lol. Lmao. If you don’t think the writers or producers have a view they are writing into the show, you are misguided in your media analysis. Especially when they are on the record in interviews on what they want to say with the show.
I think superhero’s should have always been dark and bloody, you can’t have huge fights and never see any blood. These mcu movies hardly touch on the collateral damage of actual people getting killed by debris and even if they do, they always have to be saved.
@@jacobunofficial1146 *the true idea of being a hero. Defending life, opposing evil, not wavering to your heart's worst desires, sacrificing yourself, etc. Although, the "saving people" part is kind of glossed over, since Marvel is more interested at creating giant spectacles.
My favorite thing about the boys is, that they just show what they wanna show. They dont trimm their movies on PG13 by any cost or put in 100 jokes just for the jokes sake. They do what they think is good and let the viewers decide if they like it. Of course im glad so many people DO like it in fact, so i get so see more seasons!
they cut down on lot of explicit stuff and herogasm was tame when compared to the source material. so no. they don't show what they wanna show and let the audience decide. they are constantly pushing boundaries and testing the water. they want to pander to the wider audience but also retain unhinged approach of the comics. and they done it beautifully.
The Boys and invincible have been my favorite Superhero content for the past few years. Especially the Boys. I’ll never forget how satisfied I was after watching The Boys season 1 for the first time.
I always liked the MCU for the fact that it shows that being a superhero isn’t all bad, and it sometimes can be really fun. Unlike DC which has been incredibly dark most of the time. But I feel like the MCU is at a point now where it should lean into the seriousness of its universe. The jokes are getting in the way of good storytelling at this point, and Thor 4 is an example of that. Half the universe was wiped out and brought back for Christ sake.
The Boys and Invincible really are peak Superhero shows. I will say both have Elements that make me not like then sometimes (The boys can have the subtlety of a jackhammer, the fact they robbed my boy Noir, and Billy Butcher rivals Batman’s hypocrisy. While Invincible decided Amber was a good idea to change into… THAT.) Both are still good. The Boys has had the BIGGEST glow up from a mediocre comic into a satire of the the Superhero genre with some amazing characters, same thing as Invincible but that show has different positives and might be better imo. I hope Superhero shows (And Anime is sorta doing this too) continue to be these subversive and detailed stories
Based on this title, I could definitely see The Boys sharing the fate of Rick and Morty where fans start to believe there's a correlation between watching the show and intelligence and ruin it for everyone else.
It's already at that point. A ton of piece of trash marxists think it's the best thing ever lmao
you're basically watching a commie show
How soft headed do you have to be for a random persons opinion to influence you consuming something unrelated to them
That’s exactly what I was thinking 💀
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I can see your point though the difference is the boys actually has something to say, beyond the superhero critique. I mean not to like upset anyone but homelander is literally trump lmak
The Boys points out very clearly why you don't make celebrities into gods, period...
Lol they got their powers before they became famous, the point of the show is humans are pathetic and you cant give us any power at all or we will abuse it, the more power you have the more likely you are to abuse it and theres a point where anyone would. If you give anyone homelanders powers they would be sitting on a throne of bodies as the king of the world very quickly.
@@pokemonfan2630 I agree I’ve always saw it more as like “Power Corrupts” so real life Humans becoming superheroes would not be as pure as comic books make you think it would be or rather not EVERYBODY would be actual good people
@@pokemonfan2630 If I had homelanders powers I'd just be a successful bounty hunter or hitman. Other than that, I'd be chilling.
2 months later edit: Scratch what ever I said 2 months ago. I would fucking murder EVERY THING WITHIN TH--
You needed a show to tell you that?
@@Metalffe you’d still be killing people. Also imagine being the strongest human being, you can shake someone’s hand and kill them accidentally.
The irony of the boys calling out the capitalistic world they live in is the show is owned by one of the most capitalistic companies in our world
You criticize society yet you live in it. I am very smart
I legit laught my ass off everytime they mock stuff, until I they made butcher buy from amazon
Next they should call out socialism. For the scam that it's.
@@ED-LETRICAL Lmao what? You do realize socialism hasn't been implemented yet? It isn't a scam, it's pretty honest about what it wants. A more equitable society where the workers run their businesses
Well, the show isn't written by amazon.
If you want to get your story across to the masses, you come into contact with big companies.
On the one hand, this is a necessary evil, on the other hand, as a creative person, you must try to use destructive capitalist excesses for yourself, for your vision. You can make them work for you even if your social criticism attacks them.
This title is exactly the style that transformed the rick and morty fanbase from cartoon lovers to freaks
Lmao yeah
no literally like im gonna look bad for enjoying this show now
I like how this Show has in one form or another
Elements discussed on the YT-Channels Some-More-News and Second-Thought.
Both are what i call 'Issue-listing Type' of RUclipsr.
Being that Type is the Reason they cover everything from
Uvalde to Droughts, from Politician-Roasts to Dystopias.
Aaand of course all the Droughts and Water-Problems we currently start to get.
Yes
Yeah honestly it's not like this show is ridiculously deep or dark? Like 'ohoho superheros... But what if they're bad??" Like yeah it has a lot of commentary on capitalism and consumer society but it's all incredibly surface level ("what?? People love homelander?? But he's bad actually!!?!), Not exactly like you need a galaxy brain to understand and interpret the themes
My points worded perfectly. The Boys takes place in the real world, the heroes can be cancelled, they're featured on the news, they have accidents, it's all about preserving their image. In Marvel, you never truly get the perspective or reaction of the average people, that's what I think is missing. Thor and Black Panther for example are both kings but I have no clue what their subjects think of them
update; Woah😶, I love how salty this comment made some people. Relax guys, it's called an opinion😂
It merely illustrates the lack of creeativity and current forced agendas that have RUINED the fantasy genre. For the most part it is a sick joke while the MCU has declined so this series appears to be better than it really is. Eric Kripke has made a incorrigible sick joke into a pretty good series with the DEPTH of his characters and writing... The MCU could be as good or even better, but they are lazy, unfocused and jam characterization . Its a shame, really.
@@SuperOmnicronsj44 The Mcu is dead since Endgame, it's hot garbage, just content for content's sake
So basically The suicide squad is realistic too?
Well from watching Ms Marvel, all the Avengers basically have events, merchandise, memorials, statues, podcasts etc. They’re also treated like celebrities in the MCU
@@x_master_xtop410 nah
My favourite scene is Black Noir with the cartoons that helped him through his trauma. In one scene, Kripke turned the silent assassin from a person you hated to probably the most tragic character of the show. Bravo!
It was a tragic death
Meh
“We’re so p-p-p-p-proud of you Earvin” 🥺
well, he did try to "move on up"))))
Black Noir was definitely not hated, everyone found how him hilarious with his body language and its silent, physical humour.
That scene with the cartoons did cement him as very tragic though, I agree.
This show never disappoints it is a breath of fresh air to the superhero genre.
It is, and it shows the DECLINE of writing in general with Super hero films which are likely on the way out.
@@SuperOmnicronsj44 LoL
The show disappoints sometimes
Unfortunately the final episode was disappointing…
Except season 2 was meh and the finale of s3 was disappointing
The boys is so subtle, like when homelander was asked if he was superman and he said “no, superman is gay!” That was so subtle that I barely even picked up that superman was gay and not cool unlike homelander
I like how this Show has in one form or another
Elements discussed on the Channels Some-More-News and Second-Thought.
Both are what i call 'Issue-listing Type' of RUclipsr.
Superman is a treasure and has helped many be inspired and He is a representative of Hope and integrity. The boys is just shit
@@johnnykilonzo2103 "The Boys is just shit"
Its okay to have opinions!... Yours however is wrong.
My favourite scene is the last one in season 3, seeing a smile creep on to Ryan's face after homelander blatantly commits murder in front of dozens of people in broad daylight Is mind bending. Seeing a potential mini homelander be created is riveting, also sets up next season unbelievably well
thats a reference to The omen
@@domingosjunior6805 what does that mean
@@murtaza69420 The Omen is horror movie about a kid who is the anti-christ. He comes as an innocent boy, and most of the horrible things that happens in the movie are not his faults, but from an external evil power that protects him. At the very end of the movie, he smiles at the camera, meaning that he has accepted his fate and the evil within him
@@wolfzeru5745 ty
My favorite scenes were the one with black noir and his characters, and a train drinking shake shack when he gets called out by Homelander
Dont tell me this is gonna be the rick and morty of the superhero genre
“yOu nEeD hIgH iQ tO uNdERsTaNd tHe mAtErIaL”
Most likely
Lol had to turn off this video when he started describing things as Shakespearean
We have deadpool covering that title
@@arturocastroverde3349 nah Deadpool is very different from Rick and Morty
''Supheroes but bad" is the most intellectual thing ever and feeble minds will never understand it
This is the equivalent of the "you have to have a pretty high IQ" rick and Morty pasta but for the boys
@WomenHateShortMen 🧐 the boys is not about fun, its about criticism and sending a message to real world. sure you will have some fun from gore dark comedy and nudity but thats is not the point.
@WomenHateShortMen 🧐 "bad" is a reach. disappointment. sure.
@@hellz23456 an episode was named herogasm and an earlier episode had a size change superhero go up someone’s @ss what grand message was being written there? Or is it just more shock value schlock going back to the comics roots.
@WomenHateShortMen 🧐 Thing is MCU was fun but also good story telling and a well written over arching villain in Thanos. After that however Phase 4 has been pretty shit with only No way home being good. The Boys however is a well written fantastic comicbook show far better than the Disneyplus crap.
@@thedude4840 Those were short hilarious scenes sprinkled in throughout the season whilst the overarching story is fantastic and well written. It’s like comparing couple of comedy scenes from Civil War instead of seeing it for the bigger picture.
bro cmon...
I prefer the boys too, but don't u think that saying a show that you watch is "for thinking people" just a little boastful and prepotent?
Maybe you're not the MCU's target audience, but that doesn't mean you're smarter than their audience...
That’s what I’ve kinda started to see recently that all the boys fans think they are some godly being because they think the boys is better than every other superhero content like it’s great but it’s ok to like different types of studf
High IQ Rick & Morty viewers 2.0
Have you been missing how awful MCU fans have been? This is a breath of freaking Fresh air. Not everyone wants to be hit over the head every five seconds with poor jokes and even worse writing.
@@NineToFiveGamerUC0079 ??? I'm a MCU fan, whats your point? Dosent madder what you whant or not, U cant think that something that u watch is better than what others watch Just bcause u are "smarter". Art is subjective lol.
People forget infinity war? Winter soldier? NWH? Guardians of the freaking Galaxy?
Or maybe you forgot French's and Kimikos arc in the boys' last season... Just saying, I love them both, but neither is perfect...
@@janeduardodesouzadickmann3639 I really would not call any MCU movie art hell you wanna call the boys art I will not agree but I will be quiet. But MCU really? Describe how any of the movies you mentioned is art. They are good movies but I don't see any of them as art.
It doesn’t exactly help that the MCU is having an identity crisis and has no idea what it wants to do with itself at this point in time.
DC has been having this issue for damn near 10 years and I think only now are they starting to realize that their live action projects are better when they aren’t connected with everything else, that being said I still think they have a little ways to go before they truly get a decent foothold in the live action films
Agreed
The MCU knows exactly what it wants to do next it’s just they’re not doing a good job of progressing the story towards that end goal
The DCEU has had some great stuff recently like the Snyder Cut and The Suicide Squad and Black Adam looks amazing
@@j4nky_ personally I think Black Adam looks like another generic Rock movie but to each their own
@@WonkelDee summed it up perfectly actually
"Hmm, yes, I am very smart because I like this show"
New rick and morty meme lol "it takes an extremely high IQ to understand the subtle parodies in the boys" . But no seriously everything is so ridiculously on the nose I honestly love it
Sure, & yet I'm constantly running into people who don't understand that incredibly on-the-nose satire.
@@TheLithp I want to believe you but yet here I sit with a show that straight up has people wearing word for word recreations of political slogans and Twitter hashtags that added a word from the show. And the total subtlety of a character calling a real world politician a gooch licker gee what could it mean.
@@TheLithp a lot of them probably do, they just refuse to acknowledge it because it would make them have to reconsider their own beliefs.
Its very easy to understand 😂
I’m a Marvel fan, but damn do I love The Boys. It’s not formulaic, or cookie cutter. It’s raw, graphic, and has depth even though it’s suppose to be a parody. I love everything about this show because it makes you think this is how superheroes could be in the real world.
You mean people with powers
@@enviousshade1770 yep, i kinda sad people calling Homeland a superhero, having power don't make nobody a superhero
This is my problem with most "evil Superman" tropes
@@enviousshade1770 Well even Gods in Greek and Norse myths have proven to be very abusive. Whether it's a human with godlike powers or a God with powers, Mothers Milk said it best, "No one should have that kind of power." No matter who it is, they'll get carried away and end up abusing their powers.
@@leni4179 I haven’t watch the show, but I don’t know why everyone is calling them superheros if they are just celebs that also do messed up stuff. I hear that there are actual superheros in the show, but why is everyone calling the dudes that are clearly not so morally good people as “superheros”? Hell I would call them supervillain if anything, but idk if that’s too much or not, but I’m just not calling Homelander as a superhero, or even a “flawed hero”.
@@anotherrandomguy8871 because the PR makes it seem like they are super heros.
The boys is truly one of the best series, you need to finish college and ace on your science,math and english. I watched the boys and it melted the fuck out of my brains because of too much data I'm absorbing. When butcher said "me wife's son" it expanded my data library. Do not watch the series if you're 40IQ below!
no one has below 40IQ 😂
Season 4 really exposed the audience it currently has, "show for thinking people" my ass lmaooo
that's what i was thinking
I’ll never get over how “The Boys” has so many jokes about how corporations use feminist message, or gay pride messages to promote their brand, without backing it up.
But then end with a scene of all the woman characters beating an evil supervillain Nazi.
That’s the point. “Girls really get it done” The boys showed the correct way to do it. In Endgame you have a bunch of super powered people but fighting but all the wins gather up for??? But in the boys the woman are the only super powered wools in that scene slit actually makes sense. That was the pay off. You saws the whole purpose of the scene. Especially since in the beginning storefront was shown to be a feminist (which doesn’t make her instantly a good person as you find it she’s a nazi) the boys critiqued and elevated that endgame cringe scene perfectly and it seems like it went straight over your head.
three super powered woman curb stomping a nazi-feminist is pure gold.
That’s the point. “Girls really get it done” The boys showed the correct way to do it. In Endgame you have a bunch of super powered people but fighting but all the woma gather up for??? But in the boys the woman are the only super powered people in that scene so actually makes sense. That was the pay off. You saws the whole purpose of the scene. Especially since in the beginning storefront was shown to be a feminist (which doesn’t make her instantly a good person as you find out she’s a nazi) the boys critiqued and elevated that endgame cringe scene perfectly and it seems like it went straight over your head.
three super powered woman curb stomping a nazi-feminist is pure gold.
Or in this season... the director decided Maeve will survive because he doesnt want to be the director to "off" lgbt characters.
@@dessmi9184 or instead of beating her up just expose her? it was a masculine way of handling it
@@seabreeze4559 your comment is really stupid. They are super powered beings. What? You think a woman with super strength isn’t going to use it due to masculinity😂 seriously what? Also they did expose her … did you miss the part of stormbreaker attacking the boys until kimiko, Maeve, and starlight come in …. What? Are they supposed to talk it out haha.
Saying this show is for thinking people makes anyone who says it sounds moronic, especially since all of the satire and criticism within the show are surface level.
Honestly It’s literally a tv series of how reality would turn out if people ended up having superpowers.
No, it’s about how society treats celebrities and the problems of modern society. It’s not about superheroes or powers. Realistically, if people got superpowers then it would only be military people. Also this show pretends good people don’t exist and for the sake of the story I’m fine with that but in real life there are good people and there would be good people with superpowers. Superheroes as a concept could not work because there is simply not enough crime. A real life superhero wouldn’t be a hero; just a dude with powers. I don’t like when people say this show is realistic because that’s false. This show never talks about superheroes and I can’t even say it’s a superhero parody because the focus is on society not the superheroes themselves. The season finale ended with a trump rally; this show is not about superheroes.
@@stillvillian finally, someone with a brain
I agree
@@shazam6942 Except everything he said is variously either wrong or beside the point. The show doesn't really deal with "good & evil" as such, but Starlight & Maeve are treated as genuinely heroic figures. Also, the fact that it deals with modern society IS why it's called realistic, that's not mutually exclusive. If a super power formula existed in the real world, it would likely be owned by a corporation, & we would see that corporation create a system very similar to what Vought did.
@@TheLithp nah cope harder
Being more thought provoking than the Avengers isn't saying much.
When your entire life is marvel movies, action movies, and batman, it’s not hard to think the most basic shit is “intellectual”
@@Kosmology3 very true, the avengers movies are nice to have a childhood around, but you gotta grow up some day
@@6-dpegasus425 you guys are pathetic tbh
@@Kosmology3 Which Batman exactly?...
...and that's fair: Avengers is a myth, a story of superheroes to get inspired by. It has to be archetypal.
No fucking way this is the actual title, I thought it was a meme edit.
I watched thor and i got to say after all the serious tone and writing the boys has to offer i felt very underwhelmed. I finished the movie and just go home dying to watch the final episode
Same, I was hyped to see the fianale and my brother invited me to go see thor, I didnt even know the movie was out
@@1263tonyrc huh? I just had a stroke reading that
Excuse me, a bit of a rant incoming:
Incidentally I watched Thor right after the final ep of the Boys. It honestly ruined the movie and made it almost disturbing. The scene where Thor was trying to comfort those kidnapped kids immediately reminded me of Homelander. The part where he just... kills Zeus with 0 effort or thought only compounded the notion.
Then there was the whole thing about him becoming a father, which was framed only as a means of magically resolving his identity crisis. After all, we don't see him soothing a traumatised child. Instead she's a regular kid who's just as goofy as him despite literally starving to death, being brought back to life and seeing her real father vanish right in front of her and perhaps even finding out what became of him (a murderous maniac).
Making the movie a comedy despite its events made it feel like someone's retelling of the story with some PR work sprinkled in... which it is.
Welcome to what it's been like being a DC fan for the past few years. After watching superhero movies that actually try to tell stories without leaning into constant jokes feels so rare today
I mean, Thor was a bad movie. But you’re saying that because The Boys has “serious writing” you were disappointed by a family movie?
"What I watch on the idiot box is much smarter than what you watch on the idiot box."
Giving some real "you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty" energy here.
Maeve, Annie & Kimiko beating up Stormfront isn’t a parody of the #GirlPower scenes in Marvel it’s them doing it well,
the whole forced #GirlsGetItDone thing Vought is trying to push is a parody/satire on that.
4:56 : "Led by the domineering Homelander!"
*Shows a close-up of Homelander's face mid-spank on top of a fucking roof.*
Black Noir’s one man invasion of Syria with the Rolling Stones’ Symphony of the devil in the background will forever be iconic 🙌🏾
Season 2 episode 1
Sympathy for lol
naqeb the explosion should have more screen tho lol that was funny cause you know what terrorists do, explode 😂😂😂
I like when homelander said “so what they’re starving but got money for cellphones”
I liked the part where home lander said , “it’s homing time”, and proceeded to homeland on everyone at vought tower.
"My wife's son" is really deep bro. The Boys truly is the Citizen Kane of capeshit bro
nooooo subversive capeshit isn't capeshit because...uh...it's a social critique of the human condition or something
It's not that deep bro, come on. It's fun to watch, it's a good series. But this whole fandom is turning into the "You have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty" circlejerk.
It’s nothing like that. It’s a smart show
@@mayonnaise3959 He's not saying the show's bad, he said it's good. He's making fun of the fans that think it's super niche and deeply intelligent to the point where only smart people get it. The show is very good but is very obvious in it's messaging meaning you don't have to think too hard while watching it.
Oooh look at me I'm mr big man smarty-pants, I eat philosophy books for breakfast. It ain't that deep, trust me bruh, I once looked and the picture of Nietzsche and he looked back!
@@deptusmechanikus7362 seething
@@deptusmechanikus7362- and then you say "bruh" and expect to be taken seriously? Come on
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand The Boys. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Billy Butcher's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterization- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realize that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike The Boys truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Billy Butcher's existential catchphrase "Diabolical", which itself is a cryptic reference to Diablo the fallen angel of Christian mythology. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Eric Kripke's genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools.. how I pity them. 😂
And yes, by the way, i DO have a The Boys tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothing personnel kid 😎
Man.. you really are an expert in masonry!
neat
Can't wait for the Stillwell sauce at McDonald's!
I watch rick and morty, and that inevitably makes my IQ higher than you.
Man that's good sh1te
I literally just watched this show from start to finish and this is the funniest claim ever
Let’s hear your claim then
Yeah. Its not really a thinking persons show cause there really isnt much to think about. Its just decently written
@@delycan4912 except s2
@@delycan4912 well you hardly think so I see where you come from.
@@lordsnow8438 I see I'm not the only one who found season 2 to be a let-down in comparison to the first one.
Y'all really trying the rick and morty arguement claiming The Boys is an intelligent show?
It's a simple concept.
What if superheroes were dicks and controlled by corporations.
The latter concept was briefly spoofed in Mystery Men.
Well, now, thanks to this video, I can actually put into words my problem with The Boys (or better say with some people who watch The Boys). It's that many people who watch it think that watching it makes them "Thinking People". No, it does not. People who say that are just mirrored audience of MCU (with the addition of calling Marvel movies "Disney schlock").
This show is not very hard to understand and it doesn't raise very complicated issues. It is a simple show, nothing more.
Right? this guy is so far up his own ass its crazy. the boys is entertaining but that's it. This isn't some epic tale to shape our generation like this guy seems to think.
Yeah, I've always thought of this as more of a corporate human focus stuff approach to superhero media. Not at all being one some different plane of parody, as this show also sometimes can't help but indulge in itself.
Yeah a pretty dumb show that seems to think it's smart.
@@myself2noone
I don’t think it’s dumb, but it’s just not THAT smart.
Simple and bad
I think we can all agree that it's a good series with all the metaphors and satire but it doesn't require in depth analysis or video essays. It's pretty much all laid out in the show itself. Videos like this will make it cringe.
Especially the title, I love the show but it's not too deep in it's messaging. It's pretty straightforward.
Sorry, what was the name of this video? I keep trying to read it and all I can see is "Clickbait: the clickbait for clickbaited people".
"I am very gay: the gay people show"
Please don't Rick & Morty The Boys
This is so true. I love the MCU movies but phase 4 has been lackluster. It's become formulaic. The Boys was such a breah of fresh air as it was SO different from what we've seen in the past Super Hero genre. Set in the real world with actual consequences. It does everything that the MCU under Disney can't do and does it extremely well. Even Invincible as an animtated series was more compeling then most of the new MCU movies.
"it's become formulaic"
except that it has always been formulaic since the beginning. The MCU has always been predictable and stereotypical.
@@artcorbeau so is the boys tbf
@@nicerock5506 nope i'm willing to bet you would never have guessed what would happen in the next episode. Dont pretend you saw everything coming
@@artcorbeau i guessed that, just like season two, the newcomer soldier boy would be disposed of but not truly killed after a fight, and that a few at risk characters would also be killed off/indisposed. just like what happened with stormfront and becca, and even madelyn stillwell
@@nicerock5506 but did you predict that soldier boy would have allied himself with the boys ? that he was hl's father, did you predict what happened between sb & hl after they discovered they were family ? did you predict that butcher would help hl in the final fight ?
The real “thinking people” are the people who can watch both and not think that makes them better lol or the people that watch one and not the other for whatever reasons and also not think they’re better
The show does a really great job reflecting how media works in our world. Memes, videos, self-image, all that horseshit. The most powerful people on the planet need media for their egos. Its great.
The Boys themselves are closer to the Suicide Squad; anti-heroes and villain (Butcher) that do Gov't wetwork.
the boys fans be like "holy shit the cop supe said "all lives matter",,,, i feel like this might be like a friggen analogy or something?!!! wow im so smart for noticing this"
the boys fans soyfacing after starlight tells a sociopath "yeah u think ur all that but ur just a small man in a big suit!!!! actually i feel bad for you!!!""
the boys director realising his audience is made of sub 80 iq apes, and having to show homelander is upset by making him vibrate in anger while sound effects play
“The show for thinking people” is ridiculous, I love the boys but it’s not very deep at all, it relies on shock value and gore and being edgy it’s best attribute is how it balances so many characters. I really don’t understand why people have to put down something else to like another thing, I love marvel and dc, I love Star Wars and the boys, I love superhero films and art house films
Completely agree with you
Nah.. it uses deserved shock value and the gore as storytelling mechanism.. its not vanilla !
That’s why this dude has his subscriber count private his takes are absolute trash! I am not a fan of the show but I am fan of the concept and its potential to spark real conversations about mental health, racism, corporate manipulation of the masses, and the list goes on but ironically all these fanboys for example this RUclipsr and by his own words “thinking people” don’t want to do shit but idolize the show for its shock value half ass horror elements! Like legit dude spent maybe days making a 15 minute video glorifying unnecessary in the most pretentious way possible.
@@vigneshvar6555 that doesn't make it deep.
This is my favorite comment here.
The Boys is Definitely a very compelling and unique series.Extremely disfunctional ..It brings me back to the uniqueness of the “Watchmen” movie.
Unfortunately the DCEU will run as far away from the Snyderverse as possible and the MCU had become completely lame after the greatness of the infinity saga.
I watched Thor love and thunder and I was in complete shock with how childish and parody like that movie was. The character of Thor has become completely bastardized in the same way hulk has. That movie has done irreparable damage to Thor and the mcu.
honestly the MCU should have just ended with the infinity saga
Mcu is trash now but anything snyderverse related is toxic sludge.
@@clos3078 chill
MCU is still fun to watch. Spider-Man especially. Y'all are just salty that it's not on Infinity Saga level. Eternals and Doctor Strange are actually pretty good without a hater whispering in your ear otherwise.
Just reading off the the title but I think in terms of that you’re right and wrong. Now is the time for MCU to evolve, people liked the subtle horror of Doctor Strange MOM. Disney needs to focus less on the children and more on the actual marvel community, marvel can be deep, dark, serious, honest. Idk hopefully they can do it.
the mr fantastic scene was stupid
My favourite scene was when homelander landed down in Vought tower and said "It's Homelanding time" and proceeded to elimate all the 7
Watching my favorite show get turned into the Rick and Morty of the genre
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Me: reads the title.
Also me: "Don't fool yourself. Only until the next Avengers movies comes out. "The Boys" exist because of Marvel, DC, Dark Horse, and probably Image too.
Two different kinds of stories.
The Avengers are about Stan Lee’s hope and faith in humanity.
The Boys reflects its creator’s disdain for any of that.
Marvel is about, more than anything, the concept of noblesse oblige. The heroes all subscribe to Peter Parker’s mantra to one degree or another. They are humanity’s hope. Those who stumble into power and do the right thing.
The villains and monsters are inevitably those who pursue power. It’s one reason Tony Stark has skirted than line again and again, with variants going full dictator.
But few people in media actually bother to analyze this side of anything, so of course it appears superficial to those not paying particular attention.
The Boys show is more about corporate manipulation and celebrity culture. Public relations. Advertising.
Not that Marvel hasn’t touched on these things in the comics to one extent or another. But as Stan himself said in an editorial way back when, their primary purpose is entertainment. But if they can promote mutual understanding and humanitarianism along the way, all the better.
We desperately need to be having the conversation about Noblesse oblige we’re very determinedly are refusing to have.
But blood, gore, and cynicism are fun.
Yep. They are. I enjoy the show. I think the comic is trash, personally, because the author totally doesn’t get the point. Then again, I honestly don’t think a lot of people do.
Which is weird, because it’s not subtle. It’s about anyone with any power getting to decide how to use it.
As Ultimate Gwen Stacy put it, whatever you’re good at, well that’s your superpower.
And as the new Cap put it, “What are you going to do with that power?”
But, yay! Cynicism. Because that’s definitely what we need right now.
Heroes? People who do the right thing no matter the personal cost? Why, that’s practically unAmerican at this point.
What trash.
I mean, fuck… Maeve did the right thing and had a good outcome. She got EXACTLY what she wanted, minus one eye. That’s one moment of self sacrifice for a reward. How much self sacrifice has every Avenger have to shoulder before a CHANCE at a good outcome?
I can’t believe all y’all can’t tell why these things are different.
It’s not that one is superior to the other. It’s their very different purposes.
I agree. It's a damn shame when people don't get as excited for the prospect of a true, compassionate and optimistic Superman movie, but want more 'realistic, gory, brutal, and dark' superheroes. It's as if people secretly haven't grown out of their teenage phases.
Found the MCU Stan. This guy literally shits Thor comics.
Thank you, people keep comparing two different things. The Boys is not a superhero show at all. It’s even about the superheroes; it’s about the media and society. There was never a point in the show that showed someone who genuinely tried to be good-we only see every supe as an asshole. The Boys has its place but it goes against everything that superheroes stand for and it shouldn’t even be consider in the same genre. Even edgy and gory movies like The Suicide Squad aren’t cynical. The Suicide Squad actually gave the villains morals while The Boy is amoral at times. There is no message about right or wrong and that’s the core of a superhero story. The Boys only shows the wrong and never an alternative. I do the hope The Boys would at least end the show with everyone realizing people are the problem not the supes so that the viewers of the show could exactly understand what the show is about instead of adapting it’s nihilistic view on the world.
This title just screams "Rick and morty fan"
You’re right the age of good writing and consistency is long over.
I agree that the boys is a great show but to make it seem like marvel is less because it’s not as realistic and gorey doesn’t make it bad
True. Phase 4 is what makes it bad.
Phase 4 was crap
@@tonystark18 I mean if u think that cool
@@tonystark18 bro what
This one right here. MCU is basically fairytales, and they treat them as fairytales with an ocassional revelation moment here and there. I never expected anything "deep" or "realistic" from them. Maybe that's why I like Phase 4. It's all entertainment with no subtext.
The title sounds like it was made by a Rick and Morty fan
This might be an unpopular opinion, but I think a simplistic story with heart and message that connects to a lot of people and gives them hope is ultimately more worth than a "gritty realistic" story that cheers for cynicism under the disguise of being "more interesting".
The Boys is a great show with its own identity and message, but don't make it go into your head and think that people who find optimism enjoyable in media are far lesser for it. Heartfelt stories like Pixar movies, hopeful paragons like Superman, and fantasy authors like Tolkien connected to a lot of people worldwide and arguably made their lives much more enjoyable. The Superhero fatigue is real, but I think we never gave paragon characters like Superman a true chance to shine on the modern big screen. Superman was given to a pretentious cynical director and he turned him into an absolute bore of a character, under the guise of trying to make him more "interesting". Superman is human, sympathetic, and actually tries his best to be the symbol of justice (and sometimes he doesn't succeed), but modern cynical media never gave him a chance to be that. It perceived it as an unfeeling, unwavering god, cause that's how a character like him should be, right? There is no Clark Kent, only the Kryptonian!
He could've been made into a genuine heartfelt character, but "realism" completely ruined him. And other "gritty" superman characters like homelander continue to ruin his concept. I don't really like the cynical place modern stories are going. It's consciously telling people that it's okay to follow stories of terrible people, that they are far more interesting to strive for. If we ridicule true paragons and put flawed people on the pedestal, we're agreeing to never strive to be better.
(This is also why I fucking love Invincible. Despite it being so brutal, it never lets itself become cynical sludge.)
I think bro thinks we dumb, aint none of the shit "hidden" its just subtle as not to drown out the actual superhero satire
"so what they're all starving but one of them has a f*ing cell phone" 💀
I mean, it's a show that only delivers 'Companies corrupt, everyone corrupt, people bad, supes bad, everyone bad'. Not sure what screams "Show for thinking people" about that. People get drawn in by over the top violence and gore and thats about it. The comics did the same, but they did it through over the top sexual content. There's always gotta be a part of a fanbase that claims their show is the show for smart people and shit, only to then scream for szechuan sauce like a moron.
Also don't get me wrong, I enjoy the show.
"The Boys: A Show for thinking people" gives off the same dumb vibes as "Actually you have to be pretty smart to enjoy Rick and Morty"
cry👶
@@esbenm6544 If it's a show for thinking people it certainly isn't a show for you.
I don’t see how this show threatens the Avengers creatively at all. Yes, it has strengths the MCU doesn’t. Plenty of people like both, for different reasons.
Because it's actually decent writing? Actually making a point that isn't drizzled in Disney nonsense? The Boys aren't a threat , MCU and it's obnoxious fans are one on their own.
I’ll always respect the original dc and Marvel universes but the boys is on a whole other level.. but .. I have to admit.. after watching a few episodes I’ll go and watch Superman save some people out of genuine compassion.. for balance lol 😝
Too wholesome for the people arguing over what is better.
I wish more people had the same mindset and could enjoy or at least respect both Marvel and DC instead of getting into petty arguments.
Surely not insinuating that its impossible to have a deep mature version of the mcu? All the characters have just as much potential as the boys characters or more, disney just wont do it.
Yeah but it’s also harder for the mcu cause they have so many characters they can’t develop every character all the time like we haven’t seen falcon since his show so it’s hard to develop a these characters
@@Sauxeaholic the boys itself was gone for two years with nothing but an animated show on 2021. That's not the problem
they've had 10s years and have barely even tried to do what the Boys have done in less time. MCU had it's time. It's over and we want actually well written and well told stories about heroes. Not constant jokes and posturing.
@@NineToFiveGamerUC0079 well written? Not really, this is the most predictable and repetitive show on television. This is only well written if the only thing you consoom is cape shit.
Well told? Yes, the boys is a fantastic exercise in making what's on the page pop.
It’s literally the most surface level shit. What?!
Yes, the most overly violent superhero show is for "thinking people"
This title has to be a joke. The Boys while great is some of the most obvious straight forward storytelling ever. Its themes and paralells are basically explained to the audience yet someone 50% of the fanbase still don't understand the show and were surprised that the show "introduced" politics in season 3. Huh wat.
i mean it beats the usual "bad guy tries to end the world and the hero saves the day with his awesome powers" that we see in Marvel movies. The most braindead content mass-produced for man-childs pretending like its "not just for children, but for adults too!!" Like you're seriously an obsessive Marvel fan as an adult?
Grow up.
The boys is different compared to the same super hero bs we always get from mcu
They gon and "Rick and Morty"ified The Boys
I like how this Show has in one form or another
Elements discussed on the YT-Channels Some-More-News and Second-Thought.
Both are what i call 'Issue-listing Type' of RUclipsr.
Being that Type is the Reason they cover everything from
Uvalde to Droughts, from Politician-Roasts to Dystopias.
Can you please tell us why their table is pretentious? I know you said you read your comments so please don't ignore me. Thanks
Amazon: make low IQ, sleazy and ugly looking Watchmen but in show format
R*dditbrain: "The Boys: The Show For Thinking People (Video Essay)"
the embarrassment writes itself.
100%
This show is a piece of slime brain content that only appeals to the lower common denominator. WOWZERS MY HYPERVIOLENT SHOW HAS FUNNY EVIL MAN! SO REALISTIC BETTER THAN MCUCKU!
I watch one episode of the boys and then one episode of superman and lois one after the other. One episode of gritty, high budget, hilarious superhero murder porn and then ease off with some nice idealistic, down to earth, family drama. Love them both to death.
Biggest irony is that the series is produced by a real life Vought company, “Amazon.” But hey, as long as a profit can be made, right?
Yeah, no this video essay gives way more credit to the series then it deserves. It’s not a deep thinking series.
It is a deep series. Not incredibly deep but still intricate enough for you to have to sit down for a while to process and analyze characters, events etc.
@@victory7302 nah it isn’t, it might introduce some things that can be interpreted at deep. But the chances they had to actually have deep characters they Seth Rogan it up. Their director is doing a phenomenal job even with stupid woke stuff. But these themes are as skin deep. Other then homelander who do we have?
@@jameswallace3413 hughie, butcher, a-train, queen maeve
@@victory7302 Huey is paper thin, wanting to do something to prevent what happen to his dead girlfriend. The only thing they introduced to his character is accepting the role as emasculated and loving it character. Like they couldn’t even give him any form of heroism without making him look like he was in the wrong.
Butchers character is a complete fuck up, if they just stuck to his character in the comics he would’ve been loved more then homelander. But they didn’t, instead they kept his wife alive and a son through rape. So it gives him stupid character arcs he doesn’t need to have. His character should’ve been fully developed from the beginning. And we should just be hearing how he got this way. Queen mave is just a lesbian who homelander was controlling and she wanted out…. Not that deep you can maybe argue the broken hero behind the truth of the company. As for A train again other then his heart, it’s literally nothing but skin deep identity politics. Oooo BLm man that’s soo deep. Now with all that aside I enjoy the show, I do. But it isn’t deep and it’s not thoughtful. People look to deep into shallow themes giving the writers too much credit for this.
@@jameswallace3413 hughie isn’t portrayed as in the wrong for his heroic actions. I’m assuming you’re talking about starlight getting angry he takes temp compound V. He’s only portrayed as in the wrong there because he’s contradicting his own ideals. The general ideal the boys follow is that no human should have superpowers as they are still human and still subject to impulses, corruption etc. Yet hughie betrays those ideals by taking the V. He does it because he enjoys the rush of power that it gives him which is the exact pitfall that he’s trying to push superheroes out of. While the show does portray him as a pansy, it also shows that he’s managed to grow massively as a person.
“If they stuck to the comics, butcher would’ve been loved.” You mean with horrible plot twist after horrible plot twist? Butcher’s going after homelander but it actually wasn’t homelander who killed his wife, it was black noir who is an exact copy of homelander who went insane for whatever reason. So then he makes the two fight each other, kills the winner, and then murders almost all of the boys. He would’ve been hated, and not in a good way like homelander. Here, we see actual growth, mutation, and humanization of a pretty 1d comics character.
Given that you at least see how maeve could be a good character, I won’t stress that.
You completely miss the point of a-train to the point where I wonder if you even watched any of his scenes. He’s a traditional athlete-celebrity who’s been in the limelight for so long he’s detached himself from regular people. He doesn’t understand hughie’s pain seeing his girlfriend die, and all of his apologies are shallow. However, as his plans start to unravel with the knowledge of his using compound V, and the strain it puts on his heart, he steadily starts to lose it, trying to remain a top tier as long as possible. This leads to him killing the one he loves, and out of denial of who he’s become, he focuses his hate on hughie. Once he finally goes into cardiac arrest, and hughie revives him, he realizes that his career as an athlete is essentially over and it’s only a matter of time before he falls out of favor. So he rebrands. You entirely missed the point of his BLM campaign. It was parodying how out of touch he was. He did all that stuff because he trusted his brother, not because he actually cared. He’s detached with the community he grew up in, and can only turn to poor tasteless corporate attempts to regain popularity. When this backfires with the injury of his brother, he finally comes full circle and is in the position he put hughie in. Where hughie let him live though, a-train killed blue hawk, showing that no matter how much he can relate to regular people like hughie, he can’t understand them. I could go on and on about his dynamic with hughie but this comment is long enough and you get my point. He’s satire of what you think he is.
There are many other shows with this kind of take on superhero genre, but hear out loud, the age of superhero movies where they are actually good people is never gonna end.
The avengers and marvel will still shatter movie records for decades.
my favourite scene of the entire series is in the 3rd season where it is just butcher and homelander talking there is nothing else going on but yet that scene is the most amazing diabolical scenes ever made
Ngl that video title is corny af
It sounds so pretentious
you only care because someone isn't jerking off Mickey Mouse for once. Youll live.
I liked walking around my campus to see where they were filming. The fact they were filming there made me watch all the seasons.
I like that the boys makes fun of everyone in the political spectrum even though it’s very clear who the good guys are in the view of the writers
They don’t really make fun of the left. The boys themselves are leftist anti corporate terrorists who want to bring down the elite and powerful.
Yeah this is something I think a lot of people who hate on the show miss. Yes the show skews liberal, heavily, but it also makes fun of the establishment on both sides. The boys isn’t as simple as republicans bad, democrats good. It says that both sides are literally fronts for the same agenda, that power stays in the hands of the few, and people stay complacent. Victoria Neumann is AOC, Homelander is Trump, Vought is fox and the establishment at the same time, but they’re really all on the same side.
@@jessewilson6705 yes, the right lol
@@jessewilson6705 Name one scene in the boys that makes fun or criticizes leftist views/politics
And just so you know, criticizing corporations pretending to be on the left does not equal criticizing the left
@@friedfrog5447 exactly, I'll wait too
One of my favorite things about The Boys is how they do a good job of connecting things. Like in Herogasm Soldier Boy mentioned him and Liberty founded it which was Stormfront’s name she went by back then.
People act like the boys is something new when Watchmen and Hancock exist…..
Why would the boys be the show for “thinking people”, thinking people don’t want to turn their brains off sometimes or They always have to be doing something mentally stimulating?
Think both can be enjoyed by either group for different reasons if given enough thought.
@@Blast2224 Who are You to say that someone can’t just get joy out of something that’s supposed to hold a mirror up to something? Why can’t somebody?
@@Blast2224 People get joy out of things that are supposed to be logical to others and some people can get logic out of what everybody else thinks as a joke. Example flat Earthers
Got to love when people delete their comments and makes you look like you arguing for no reason at random people.
@@killajive1 I'm with you, the world would be depressing as hell if every media was realistic like the boys. We go to the movies to escape and have fun. That doesn't mean realistic shows like the boys isn't fun, but it would be depressing if everything else was like it.
@@TobiNano I think most people don’t have a Problem with Marvel movies existing. The problem is rather the regular media shit of Releasing something every month if it makes money wich gets annoying especially if the movies overshadow other movies because Disney buys every advertisement possible
I think that the boys is just about what happens when you don't agree with the statement "With great power comes great responsibility"
The Boys is perfect, and seeing Stormfront get the crap beat out of her by Queen Mauve, Starlight, and Kimiko was great.
What did stormfront do wrong though?
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Stormfront is a German Nazi who believes in the idea of an Aryan master race. She was around as far back as World War II, and was married to Frederick Vought who created the first Compound V formula. She also is not shy about killing, as she kills Kimoko's brother while uttering racist remarks. She also took out the upper floors of an apartment building while trying to fight Kimiko.
@@davidalangay1186 What did she do wrong though?
@@danke1150 see my previous reply above. Warning, spoilers.
@@davidalangay1186 I read it, what did she do wrong?
I like marvels alot cause it has spiderman blade the punisher luke cage jessica jones and daredevil and a couple of characters that i like in the marvels universe but i don't really care much about the avengers movie i never liked them to be honest the boys series is better than the avengers it has good acting good writing and is about the real world and also about what if super heroes exist in our real world the boys series really make sense and when you watch it it gives you a very good feeling about the show and you start to brain storm about it after you finish every season this show really does not disappoint
No one's ready for this but No Way Home wasn't that good. The entire Spiderman "Home" trilogy wasn't very good. People will go along and say Marvel's M-She-U sucks but didn't notice all the woke stuff in Spiderman because they love the character so much. Literally, Peter Parker is the only white speaking lead among a sea of people of color. His love interest, MJ is a very woke protestor Mary Sue who is active in fighting Peter's villain's henchmen in 2 movies but she is played by their crush Zendaya. The Spidey villains need to be redeemed and not die like Reva in Star Wars. They bring back legacy characters but darker and more realistic to political figures like Alex Jones. How is it different from "Woke" Star Wars? And The Boys is woke, it's just not in your face. Did you miss all the BLM protesting, Trump Rallies and allusion to the bad capitalism of Vought? You see what you want to see and only label stuff "woke" because its unnattractive to you.
@@suzygirl1843 What is your point?
@@suzygirl1843 Spidey villains not dying is just accurate.
@@suzygirl1843 Batman villains don’t die either. It’s part of their character lol
The Boys will only go down as one of the best fictional series in history, as long as it continues to mock all aspects of society equally. It is filled with political and cultural piss takes. It so far hasn't made obvious which side the writers stand, which it must ensure it maintains. The moment it becomes a biased propaganda piece, the shows ruined.
So far it mocks left and right stereotypes equally enough keeping the show fun, clever and refreshingly neutral.
It doesn't do it equally? That's not whats important. It does it FAIRLY. The left in this country is so laughably powerless to consistently shit on them would be ridiculous, but the ones in power - The neoliberals and the conservative liberals, those are the mother fuckers that need the shit taken on them. Always trying to sanitize culture while not addressing material horror or worse the conservatives actively trying to make it worse for everyone but a chosen few.
I totally agree with this.
Lol. Lmao. If you don’t think the writers or producers have a view they are writing into the show, you are misguided in your media analysis. Especially when they are on the record in interviews on what they want to say with the show.
They clearly lean liberal, which is okay, but if you can’t see that you should pay more attention.
Biased? The Boys has plenty woke messages, you just don't see it. Homelander is the biggest red flag.
I think superhero’s should have always been dark and bloody, you can’t have huge fights and never see any blood. These mcu movies hardly touch on the collateral damage of actual people getting killed by debris and even if they do, they always have to be saved.
" The Show For Thinking People " lol
I love it all, just because it's so different and the characters are so human, all their flaws show they are just like everyone else.
The avengers showed us what real heroes are while the Boys showed us that superheroes in real life are something that we don’t want
"The avengers showed us what real heroes are" 🤣
@@jacobunofficial1146 *the true idea of being a hero. Defending life, opposing evil, not wavering to your heart's worst desires, sacrificing yourself, etc.
Although, the "saving people" part is kind of glossed over, since Marvel is more interested at creating giant spectacles.
I just hope that all superheroes media from now on won`t become this "Superheroes but bad" concept
My favorite thing about the boys is, that they just show what they wanna show. They dont trimm their movies on PG13 by any cost or put in 100 jokes just for the jokes sake. They do what they think is good and let the viewers decide if they like it. Of course im glad so many people DO like it in fact, so i get so see more seasons!
they cut down on lot of explicit stuff and herogasm was tame when compared to the source material. so no. they don't show what they wanna show and let the audience decide. they are constantly pushing boundaries and testing the water. they want to pander to the wider audience but also retain unhinged approach of the comics. and they done it beautifully.
@@emperordragon1794 yeah, you dont really make sense there bro
The Boys and invincible have been my favorite Superhero content for the past few years. Especially the Boys. I’ll never forget how satisfied I was after watching The Boys season 1 for the first time.
‘the show for thinking people’ the boys getting the cringelord rick and morty treatment? was fun while it lasted i guess
I always liked the MCU for the fact that it shows that being a superhero isn’t all bad, and it sometimes can be really fun. Unlike DC which has been incredibly dark most of the time. But I feel like the MCU is at a point now where it should lean into the seriousness of its universe. The jokes are getting in the way of good storytelling at this point, and Thor 4 is an example of that. Half the universe was wiped out and brought back for Christ sake.
I think this video hasn't aged very well...
Any scene with Homelander is the best scene
Or....just watch both. I started the graphic novels, but still binge MCU shows.
The Boys and Invincible really are peak Superhero shows.
I will say both have Elements that make me not like then sometimes (The boys can have the subtlety of a jackhammer, the fact they robbed my boy Noir, and Billy Butcher rivals Batman’s hypocrisy. While Invincible decided Amber was a good idea to change into… THAT.) Both are still good.
The Boys has had the BIGGEST glow up from a mediocre comic into a satire of the the Superhero genre with some amazing characters, same thing as Invincible but that show has different positives and might be better imo.
I hope Superhero shows (And Anime is sorta doing this too) continue to be these subversive and detailed stories
subverting for the sole sake of subverting is peak midwit
@@tsurugi5 yeah, I coulda said it better.
I meant to say I hope other shows/media can pull off subverts like The Boys.
My bad