In 82 my grandfather build a lake house in Kentucky and put in a wood fired furnace with regenerative heat for the hot water heater. He when somewhere into Illinois in an Amish community. House was about 2500sq ft and we could put 3 splits in at 9pm and they would last until we got up around 630. Idk how it was so efficient or if that normal, but he was a lineman and had heard about these. And drove 4hrs to get it. He’s long since passed but the new owners said it still works to this day.
@ it looked a lot like a Drolet wood furnace. Front load, I think it would take 24” logs. It had a hot water jacket on top with a duct work transition that tied into his hvac system. He hardly ran conventional heat in the winter. And the water jacket or coil that would preheat the water before it dumped into the water heater gave us an endless supply of hot water.
Thanks for the education on your multiple seasons of experience and it seems like a viable alternative when you aren't getting gas piped to your house or shop.
We've had a Taylor since 1992 had to have the steel tube's inside it replaced 15 years ago or so but still going strong. Only real problem we've encountered with our outdoor woodstoves was insurance companies don't like them.
I picked up a heatmaster G7000. It's my first year and I've heard my oil boiler turn on once this season. It's just awesome. I plan to save around 3500-4K this year and have it paid off in 4 years.
Isn’t it great how with just a little manual labor you can pay off the unit in such a short amount of time? It’s true Freedom in my opinion. Will I do it forever? Nope. But I’m young now and have another 30 years of boilering I’m sure!
@@TheRussellStover I work a desk job as of late too with this company. It feels good to come him and toss some wood in. Be good dude! Thanks for watching.
I heated with a Taylor furnace for 20 years, and now just bought a heat master furnace. I love the outdoor furnace, no mess inside your house that way.
Awesome video for starters. If i had a shop or large area to heat I'd go this route. Especially dealing with temps like you do up north. I wont work for everyone obviously but its perfect for what you need it for.
Hello Brandon, I’m seeing your videos out of order as they pop up on my home screen that’s why you get a lot of questions that were already answered. I just found out who Rooster is ha.
I had to chuckle when you mentioned that you didn’t like the smell of burning coal. I have access to a decent amount of coal, so I burn some in my fireplace in conjunction with regular firewood. I’ve been a railfan my whole life, so I love the smell of some coal smoke
FYI for anyone wondering that hook he used is referred to as a New York hook we use in the fire department made commonly in 6 or8’ lengths. Work pretty good for busting windows and making holes in walls you want to pull out.
LET’S HEAR EVERYONE’S ideas for adapting the loader bucket so the width matches the boiler opening… Add steel plates to each side? Hardware mesh? Wrap a couple rolls of duct tape all around the ends? Serious or funny, I want to hear all the solutions… This guy drops so much wood on the ground 😂
Steel plates clamped to bucket is how we narrow our big buckets for a concrete shoot. Same thing. Then it's not welded or permanent. Couple steel plates and some welders C clamps or even bolt it on the bucket then you are good
Interesting stove, I own a Central boiler, one thing you should have used for the install is the Thermopex tubing. It's worth every cent extra over the foil wrapped tubing! Harder to work with but really not that bad, I've done a couple installs now myself. Some installers whine when they see it, even witnessed one refuse to install it and throw his tools in the truck and drive off when a buddy of mine told the guy he didn't want the junk tubing, he wanted the the good stuff, it was epic. Wouldn't someone just charge more if the install is harder...
Ain’t gone dig it up now! This 5 wrap stuff was in the budget and seems to be working great. I’ll consider the Thermopex again if I do another install in the future.
@@WhiskeyRiverTradingCo Yup I get it, it's when the drain tile the tubes run through end up holding water is when you'll notice the heat loss. For sure it's worth it, buy once cry once..
@@WhiskeyRiverTradingCo like I said I get it, just trying to help. If you figure in the cost of what you've spent and the cost difference in heat loss over a few years you'll find thermo pex is actually cheaper than what you've spent. Penny Wise dollar foolish is the ol adage.
We all want the best quality "but it & install it once & forever." However, budgets & reality rudely intervene. You go with what you can afford at the time, ( e.g. buy the best boiler, hook it up & use) till you can afford yo repair/ replace piping. The trick is to install the system so it is reasonably easy to replace or install next to existing lines & switch over when finished. (e.g. lined trench or big straight section of pipe between buildings - pull/push new lines into so you don't have to dig up everything, just ends for adding or hookup) A little forethought & planning goes a long way, & if you do something different? No loss.
Yo yo yo! What's up Brandon! 🙌👊🤙🏽🔥 You have an awesome spot there! That's definitely not too much work IMO. I would love to have some property like that out in the woods one day and run my business at home. 🙏 Nice video Brandon! Thanks for sharing 🤙🏽🫡🫡🫡
Growing up in a house that was heated with a wood stove i can say this, cutting wood every Saturday or Sunday sucked. Having this stove may make it a little better because it doesn't need to be cut into smaller pieces and then split, but its still a lot of work.
Great video. Have you ever had it choke its self out to where it is completely loaded but not burning? How do you get it burning again? I know that most of the time if there are hot enough Coles anything can burn but just wondering how you deal with it if it’s completely filledand will not catch fire.
So I watched the boiler video from 3 weeks ago. Thank you. Maybe I missed it but you had the boiler fully topped offed with wood how long will that last ???
Really depends on outside temp. What we have the T-Stats set to and what species and moisture content of wood. Average winter day. Pack it full of dry oak logs…24hours and you’ll need to add more. That’s about 1/2 a facecord
Where in Wisconsin are you located I’m down by the Wisconsin dells and heat 5000 ft with a boiler and only use about 250 gallons of lp every other year because of it
Feeling grateful for my gas powered boiler that heats my house with gas piped to my home. Never have to do a lick of work! Heating costs arnt too bad either.
I am astonished that ppl think it’s free to operate these monstrosities. Time is money and if if you’re fussing with filling, cleaning prepping the wood and such it’s a lot of time and someone’s money.
Yup. It may be less work processing wood, but what he doesn’t realize yet is he needs 2-3 times more to get the same btus. Garns are quite the capital investment but the easy of use and longevity record is worth the money. No shoulder season over/under fire issues.
Not to mention all the air pollution it's spewing everyday. Just bc it's wood doesn't mean it's good for environment. Shit like this is why winters are shorter with alot less snowfall.
@@yungfiend6830lol wood is carbon neutral. Even if it DOES all the boilers in the world don’t do even close to what California just did in a day. Isn’t it strange how after ALLL that wildfire we just had the coldest day in the United States history and the first blizzard on the golf coast in history
holly molly that is using alot of wood. per day. that like a weeks worth of wood for me at -40c . it looks like 30 to 40+ cords per year easily ( as it 1/2 cord to fill ~15 cords per month ) . you could cut the wood as pulp and sell it for probably ~35 cords X 3000 lbs =105000lbs /2200 = 47 tonnes = X $300 per tonne = $14000 . you could run on propane ($6000)and still have $8000 left over.
@@myvideosbrown4026 just point out the ridiculousness of that boiler . he said he filled it up daily. and what he said he was paying per year to heat with propane . it would be far more economical to sell the wood then to burn it. I use to heat exclusively with a wood boiler 30 years ago. use to cut 5 -7 cords per winter . by the time you cut, haul and spit it cost about 200 to 300$ per year . ten years later I installed a GSHP and some evacuated solar heaters for my home .. my heating cost dropped to $100 to $150 per year ( today about $225, still far cheaper then burning wood ). Lately i started to burn a little in the boiler again as i kept it as an emergency back up heat source . i burn about a cord per winter now just when it colder then -20c . so for a little over a month during the winter. and basically I burn dead fall from around my yard and against my fence line. would I go back to exclusively heating with a wood boiler. Only if I was desperate and had no other option . not for heating a home for 7-8months out of the year as what i would have to do where i live start burning in Sept/Oct quit burning in May
So prolly a 10-20k setup, have to feed it straight up logs daily, clean it out, use a skid steer to load it, have a place to dump all the ashes....dosnt seem FREE at all. and looks HIGHLY inefficient to basically have a heater core in your shop. And keeping it fed seems like a fulltime job. Insulate your shop and use propane and spend your entire day doing something else
I've been running an outside wood burner for over 25 years and currently heat over 10,000 square feet with a central boiler and that top loader is the most ridiculous idea I've seen yet.
6 thousand dollars? Insulate your shop dude, it's not big enough to need that kind of heat. Insulation is cheap in the long run. You shouldn't be spending more than like 2 grand a year on propane, in a bad price year.
@@bugermcking4968 how much is it to spray foam our shop? We have 3-4 week periods of time that the temp doesn’t get above 0deg F. The fastest way to get a heated shop(since we JUST moved here) was to dump heat into this building and renovate it while it’s heated, rather be tossing free logs into it then paying invoices monthly to the man. Money doesn’t grow on trees. The math works. I wouldn’t be doing it if the math didn’t check out. The plan is to add more structures to this unit as I mentioned in the video. You are seeing the first steps of a multi year/multifaceted process.
@@WhiskeyRiverTradingCo Forget spray foam, if your insulation is that bad you should just put up interior studs 4 feet on center and get some fiberglass r25 up. That's like 2 bucks a square foot in materials($3.50 if you want a metal inside layer or $2.50 if you want osb inside layer) and the way I see it labor is free because it's a lot easier than making all that wood even for a few years. And burning logs or propane, it's still the same math, why do 3x the work/spend 3x the money that you don't need to long term? I mean that wood burner is gonna rust, every time you use it more than you need to your shortening it's lifespan.
You are basing this opinion off of very limited information in a 22 minute video. Trust me. There is a plan. Money doesn't grow on trees. The logs are free. Heating the building was top priority so we could work on it while it's heated.
@@WhiskeyRiverTradingCo I'm not arguing the boiler was a bad idea, I'm saying no matter what you end up doing as a heating source you should at least double the insulation in that shop. You are using way too many BTU's for something that small in northern WI. That amount of fuel wood or propane should be for like a 10k square foot properly insulated building. You should be a fraction of the power.
Why not drill 4 holes in bucket at either end of the bucket? Have a 3/8 plate that just pins into the holes at to eliminate 1 foot of your bucket? Cost you 100 bucks in plate steel and 4 pins.
You know it. -20 this morning. I enjoyed myself when filling the boiler. Be built differently up here. The cold doesn’t bother me. Anything over 75 is annoying 😂
So all the equipment was free and the wood was free and the installation was free and the registers and piping was free so its a free heat movement , now I get it.
Im confused, you call it a log boiler, but youre burning the logs, not boiling them. Also you said you need hot coals, but theres no fire coming off them, how can they even be hot? Most confusing of all, you said that you burn ash... How can you burn ash when it all falls in ash tray? Are you just dumping that tray back into the "boiler"? Seems a little redundant to me....
It is really more of a log-powered boiler. Uses burning logs to heat water and make steam running through tubes under/around the building. That is how radiators work. Many boilers run on gas, but they are using log power for the heat on this one.
When wood gets deeply burned it turns into coals. It is glowing orange and usually has a gray coating of ash around the outside. If you scrape off that bit of ash, inside you find a very hot slow burning ball of coal fire.
And finally, the Ash he talks about burning at the end is the tree variety called Ash trees. Like Oak, Maple, Pine or Beech. He is going to use logs from Ash trees. He doesn't mean the burnt ash that comes from a fire.
Insulate your shop, and you could use propane heat for far less money than with that setup. Not too mention all the additional work involved. Remember, time is money when you own a business....
It's only free if you value your time at $0, If you're tired don't have anything to do but chop wood Great, I'll continue working and paying my heat pump to heat my house
I value my time at about $150K per year, which is my household’s combined income. I’d happily leave my 950 SF apartment and go down south to my 2 acres once my homestead is complete. Chopping firewood isn’t an everyday activity, it keeps you strong and healthy because it’s exercise. No overpriced heating bills or reliance on contractors either. As someone who grew up in NYC with 0 insulation in the walls, old ass boiler & hot water heater, $1200/per year ain’t worth it. Nor the $10Ks it costs to insulate an entire house. Over time the cost is ridiculous just for decent heating
@ You get it! We bought this old place with little to no insulation. 80 cords of dead standing hardwood on the property. Figured out the heat first so that the buildings were heated while we work on them. And everytime we insulate another section it will use less wood. We spend 2 weekends a year cutting wood. Then the 30-1 hour a day loading. Firewood=Freedom. Everyone burned wood up until recent history.
@@WhiskeyRiverTradingCo I started watchigen your channel recently do you mind if I ask about your firewood business? I have 2 acres in North Carolina do you think it would be smart to grow trees on that land while I work and save money in NY for the homestead ?
@@cheyennethomas5101I grew up in MI with only a wood stove. Trees take years to grow, and you only have 2 acres.You'll have to buy wood. Just my opinion.
In 82 my grandfather build a lake house in Kentucky and put in a wood fired furnace with regenerative heat for the hot water heater. He when somewhere into Illinois in an Amish community. House was about 2500sq ft and we could put 3 splits in at 9pm and they would last until we got up around 630. Idk how it was so efficient or if that normal, but he was a lineman and had heard about these. And drove 4hrs to get it. He’s long since passed but the new owners said it still works to this day.
I think what your talking about is a smudge pot possibly, look it up I’d be curious if that’s what your talking about
@ it looked a lot like a Drolet wood furnace. Front load, I think it would take 24” logs. It had a hot water jacket on top with a duct work transition that tied into his hvac system. He hardly ran conventional heat in the winter. And the water jacket or coil that would preheat the water before it dumped into the water heater gave us an endless supply of hot water.
I agree with you 100% if I can get free heat for the winter for just a little bit of time each day it’s well worth it!!
This boiler is $25,000 for big houses and commercial use buildings it’s btu is estimated at 500,000 . That boiler is nuts lol 😂. Great video guys
Thanks for the education on your multiple seasons of experience and it seems like a viable alternative when you aren't getting gas piped to your house or shop.
Sure is a nice alternative to other fuel sources.
We've had a Taylor since 1992 had to have the steel tube's inside it replaced 15 years ago or so but still going strong. Only real problem we've encountered with our outdoor woodstoves was insurance companies don't like them.
Excellent setup Boss, thanks for the breakdown! 👍
I picked up a heatmaster G7000. It's my first year and I've heard my oil boiler turn on once this season. It's just awesome. I plan to save around 3500-4K this year and have it paid off in 4 years.
Isn’t it great how with just a little manual labor you can pay off the unit in such a short amount of time? It’s true Freedom in my opinion. Will I do it forever? Nope. But I’m young now and have another 30 years of boilering I’m sure!
@@WhiskeyRiverTradingCo I work an office position.... but I LOVE logging my acres. Winter is the best time of year for me.
@@TheRussellStover I work a desk job as of late too with this company. It feels good to come him and toss some wood in. Be good dude! Thanks for watching.
Oo heck yeah! The free heat movement 🔥🔥🔥
You know what’s up! You guys staying warm?
@@WhiskeyRiverTradingCo yep, nice and toasty here in PA
I heated with a Taylor furnace for 20 years, and now just bought a heat master furnace. I love the outdoor furnace, no mess inside your house that way.
Awesome video for starters. If i had a shop or large area to heat I'd go this route. Especially dealing with temps like you do up north. I wont work for everyone obviously but its perfect for what you need it for.
Glad you liked the video! We're living the #freeheat life up here.
It looks awesome. Looks like it works even better. Maybe someday I could afford.
Hello Brandon, I’m seeing your videos out of order as they pop up on my home screen that’s why you get a lot of questions that were already answered. I just found out who Rooster is ha.
I had to chuckle when you mentioned that you didn’t like the smell of burning coal. I have access to a decent amount of coal, so I burn some in my fireplace in conjunction with regular firewood. I’ve been a railfan my whole life, so I love the smell of some coal smoke
Good show Brandon, great to see the beast in action. Keep cuttin' brother!
Thanks Travis! Keep an eye on your mailbox next week. I sent ya something!
@@WhiskeyRiverTradingCo many thanks brother!
FYI for anyone wondering that hook he used is referred to as a New York hook we use in the fire department made commonly in 6 or8’ lengths. Work pretty good for busting windows and making holes in walls you want to pull out.
My tongue got twisted. Thanks for clarifying the name. Stay safe. Keep us in mind for any Halligan or Council Tool Axe needs.
hi there nice boiler best to all john
LET’S HEAR EVERYONE’S ideas for adapting the loader bucket so the width matches the boiler opening… Add steel plates to each side? Hardware mesh? Wrap a couple rolls of duct tape all around the ends? Serious or funny, I want to hear all the solutions… This guy drops so much wood on the ground 😂
Get a narrower bucket.
Steel plates clamped to bucket is how we narrow our big buckets for a concrete shoot. Same thing. Then it's not welded or permanent. Couple steel plates and some welders C clamps or even bolt it on the bucket then you are good
Use ur bucket to fill an IBC Cage with the front cut out hook a chain so you don't loose the cage and dump into boiler..
Yeah that or some boards, yeah the steel should last longer.
They make smaller buckets for the front end loaders
Great video man. Great info! 😊
@@RedBeard_KNT thanks Ed!
Interesting stove, I own a Central boiler, one thing you should have used for the install is the Thermopex tubing. It's worth every cent extra over the foil wrapped tubing! Harder to work with but really not that bad, I've done a couple installs now myself. Some installers whine when they see it, even witnessed one refuse to install it and throw his tools in the truck and drive off when a buddy of mine told the guy he didn't want the junk tubing, he wanted the the good stuff, it was epic. Wouldn't someone just charge more if the install is harder...
Ain’t gone dig it up now! This 5 wrap stuff was in the budget and seems to be working great. I’ll consider the Thermopex again if I do another install in the future.
@@WhiskeyRiverTradingCo Yup I get it, it's when the drain tile the tubes run through end up holding water is when you'll notice the heat loss. For sure it's worth it, buy once cry once..
The budget isn't endless. We couldn't swing it. Buy once cry once works if you've got the cash to buy.
@@WhiskeyRiverTradingCo like I said I get it, just trying to help. If you figure in the cost of what you've spent and the cost difference in heat loss over a few years you'll find thermo pex is actually cheaper than what you've spent. Penny Wise dollar foolish is the ol adage.
We all want the best quality "but it & install it once & forever." However, budgets & reality rudely intervene.
You go with what you can afford at the time, ( e.g. buy the best boiler, hook it up & use) till you can afford yo repair/ replace piping. The trick is to install the system so it is reasonably easy to replace or install next to existing lines & switch over when finished. (e.g. lined trench or big straight section of pipe between buildings - pull/push new lines into so you don't have to dig up everything, just ends for adding or hookup)
A little forethought & planning goes a long way, & if you do something different? No loss.
Yo yo yo! What's up Brandon! 🙌👊🤙🏽🔥 You have an awesome spot there! That's definitely not too much work IMO. I would love to have some property like that out in the woods one day and run my business at home. 🙏 Nice video Brandon! Thanks for sharing 🤙🏽🫡🫡🫡
@@lobenavente236 Thank you for the kind words!
Growing up in a house that was heated with a wood stove i can say this, cutting wood every Saturday or Sunday sucked. Having this stove may make it a little better because it doesn't need to be cut into smaller pieces and then split, but its still a lot of work.
Tractor supply has coal and it’s anthracite coal which is fairly clean burning
Definitely the way to go !
And if you do insulate your building you will burn less wood making it more free!!!
That’s the plan. Insulate it as we work on it.
Sure looks fun to play with.
Most definitely is!
Pretty awesome. You use it for hot water as well?
How would you swap for a front loader? Do you have unlimited funds?
Bro you need to insulate. You’ll save so much money. Insulate the pieces the boiler, the entry points.
Great video. Have you ever had it choke its self out to where it is completely loaded but not burning? How do you get it burning again? I know that most of the time if there are hot enough Coles anything can burn but just wondering how you deal with it if it’s completely filledand will not catch fire.
Id love to clean that . That would be so satisfying ❤
It’s kinda is when ya pic at the creosote.
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That’s a great investment. Try a rock bucket on your skidsteer, you can scoop the wood right up.
Awww cmon dad give her the ball
Seem to lose a lot of heat out the chimney. Is there a way to capture it, and maybe hook up a generator to save even more money?
Good job man🎉
Thanks!!
Throw a nice big BRISKET in there! 😊
So I watched the boiler video from 3 weeks ago. Thank you. Maybe I missed it but you had the boiler fully topped offed with wood how long will that last ???
Really depends on outside temp. What we have the T-Stats set to and what species and moisture content of wood. Average winter day. Pack it full of dry oak logs…24hours and you’ll need to add more. That’s about 1/2 a facecord
Nice🎉
Thanks
I have a portage and main boiler. Can burn wood or coal.
What I have seen wood boilers are wood hogs. Did you have an indoor one how much wood did that use?
How much is one for a 1500 square foot home and a 24x24 garage?
10 grand
Cool!
Thanks!
What is the model of the boiler?
Did you watch the video?
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The door
Ok, I've looked through the comments but i cant find the question about what happens during a power outage?
Backup generator. It’s uses very little power. 1/25hp pump and the blower pulls 5 amps if I recall. Many folks choose solar for them.
Its pot ash....ash rolled in cotton face wipes good as fire starters ....but ya dont have that problem 😊
You could make that thing so much more efficient.
Where in Wisconsin are you located I’m down by the Wisconsin dells and heat 5000 ft with a boiler and only use about 250 gallons of lp every other year because of it
Northwestern. Not far from Lake Superior.
Feeling grateful for my gas powered boiler that heats my house with gas piped to my home. Never have to do a lick of work! Heating costs arnt too bad either.
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How hard can it be to hand load !! That lazy dumping like that over the top of the boiler. Or a funnel attachment on the bucket or a smaller bucket.
We hand load it all the time. Just depends on the day. If I’ve got the skid running already it’s pretty easy to just use it to load.
I am astonished that ppl think it’s free to operate these monstrosities. Time is money and if if you’re fussing with filling, cleaning prepping the wood and such it’s a lot of time and someone’s money.
If you own a tree service they actually make you money
The epitome of inefficiency right here folks!
Yup. It may be less work processing wood, but what he doesn’t realize yet is he needs 2-3 times more to get the same btus. Garns are quite the capital investment but the easy of use and longevity record is worth the money. No shoulder season over/under fire issues.
Not to mention all the air pollution it's spewing everyday. Just bc it's wood doesn't mean it's good for environment. Shit like this is why winters are shorter with alot less snowfall.
@@yungfiend6830lol wood is carbon neutral. Even if it DOES all the boilers in the world don’t do even close to what California just did in a day. Isn’t it strange how after ALLL that wildfire we just had the coldest day in the United States history and the first blizzard on the golf coast in history
@yungfiend6830 that's a lie.
You need a forest to keep it fed.
What is free about the situation, you need a water supply and then you have to find wood to cut then spit it Season it and then manage it
holly molly that is using alot of wood. per day. that like a weeks worth of wood for me at -40c . it looks like 30 to 40+ cords per year easily ( as it 1/2 cord to fill ~15 cords per month ) . you could cut the wood as pulp and sell it for probably ~35 cords X 3000 lbs =105000lbs /2200 = 47 tonnes = X $300 per tonne = $14000 . you could run on propane ($6000)and still have $8000 left over.
oh wow that is awesome to know, too bad you aren't in control of this guys property 😂😂😂😂
@@myvideosbrown4026 just point out the ridiculousness of that boiler . he said he filled it up daily. and what he said he was paying per year to heat with propane . it would be far more economical to sell the wood then to burn it. I use to heat exclusively with a wood boiler 30 years ago. use to cut 5 -7 cords per winter . by the time you cut, haul and spit it cost about 200 to 300$ per year . ten years later I installed a GSHP and some evacuated solar heaters for my home .. my heating cost dropped to $100 to $150 per year ( today about $225, still far cheaper then burning wood ). Lately i started to burn a little in the boiler again as i kept it as an emergency back up heat source . i burn about a cord per winter now just when it colder then -20c . so for a little over a month during the winter. and basically I burn dead fall from around my yard and against my fence line. would I go back to exclusively heating with a wood boiler. Only if I was desperate and had no other option . not for heating a home for 7-8months out of the year as what i would have to do where i live start burning in Sept/Oct quit burning in May
What part of wi you in!?
North Western. Hour east of Duluth.
@WhiskeyRiverTradingCo cool! I'm by Chippewa falls
So prolly a 10-20k setup, have to feed it straight up logs daily, clean it out, use a skid steer to load it, have a place to dump all the ashes....dosnt seem FREE at all. and looks HIGHLY inefficient to basically have a heater core in your shop. And keeping it fed seems like a fulltime job. Insulate your shop and use propane and spend your entire day doing something else
Unless they get the wood free. Also why do you need a skid steer to load and why is it a full time snob? You load it once a day.
Also that thing is way too big for what he is using it. That thing could heat like 10.000 house.
I just looked it up. It’s rated for 20,000 sq feet.
Mine burns less than half of that for 24 hours for a 3200 sqft home and 3 car garage .
Seems like that burns alot for the water temp of 160-170 deg
Apples and oranges. Once this building is insulated we will be adding another building.
@@WhiskeyRiverTradingCoonce you get insulated you are going to love how little wood you go through.
@ I’m excited!!
I've been running an outside wood burner for over 25 years and currently heat over 10,000 square feet with a central boiler and that top loader is the most ridiculous idea I've seen yet.
Most ridiculous thing you’ve seen in 25 years?!
@WhiskeyRiverTradingCo you're a democrat, aren't you?
6 thousand dollars? Insulate your shop dude, it's not big enough to need that kind of heat.
Insulation is cheap in the long run. You shouldn't be spending more than like 2 grand a year on propane, in a bad price year.
@@bugermcking4968 how much is it to spray foam our shop?
We have 3-4 week periods of time that the temp doesn’t get above 0deg F.
The fastest way to get a heated shop(since we JUST moved here) was to dump heat into this building and renovate it while it’s heated, rather be tossing free logs into it then paying invoices monthly to the man. Money doesn’t grow on trees. The math works. I wouldn’t be doing it if the math didn’t check out. The plan is to add more structures to this unit as I mentioned in the video. You are seeing the first steps of a multi year/multifaceted process.
@@WhiskeyRiverTradingCo Forget spray foam, if your insulation is that bad you should just put up interior studs 4 feet on center and get some fiberglass r25 up. That's like 2 bucks a square foot in materials($3.50 if you want a metal inside layer or $2.50 if you want osb inside layer) and the way I see it labor is free because it's a lot easier than making all that wood even for a few years. And burning logs or propane, it's still the same math, why do 3x the work/spend 3x the money that you don't need to long term? I mean that wood burner is gonna rust, every time you use it more than you need to your shortening it's lifespan.
You are basing this opinion off of very limited information in a 22 minute video. Trust me. There is a plan. Money doesn't grow on trees. The logs are free. Heating the building was top priority so we could work on it while it's heated.
@@WhiskeyRiverTradingCo I'm not arguing the boiler was a bad idea, I'm saying no matter what you end up doing as a heating source you should at least double the insulation in that shop. You are using way too many BTU's for something that small in northern WI. That amount of fuel wood or propane should be for like a 10k square foot properly insulated building. You should be a fraction of the power.
@ one step at a time. It can’t all happen at once
I could heat my 3000 sq foot house, garage and have my ungrounded pool open year round with that beast. ❤
Right on. I want to hookup a pool or hot tub
Why not drill 4 holes in bucket at either end of the bucket?
Have a 3/8 plate that just pins into the holes at to eliminate 1 foot of your bucket?
Cost you 100 bucks in plate steel and 4 pins.
Great idea.
You need to figure out how to convert the wood gasses to power a generator
@@armandhammer9617 that would be cool.
surprised u don't have a loading chute.
Same
Heat just feels different when you work for it and i wouldnt have it any other way. The gas man can suck it.
You know it. -20 this morning. I enjoyed myself when filling the boiler. Be built differently up here. The cold doesn’t bother me. Anything over 75 is annoying 😂
This is such a manly thing to own lol
Mmm, that top loading thing will not work for a lot of people as you have to lift the logs really high to load it.
Def. But I didn’t buy it for those people. It works out well for us.
I was told that shop was a speed shop at some point
Correct.
I don’t think people realize that this boiler can heat like 20,000 sq feet. It’s a monster. He is barely using it.
You need a forest 😂😂
You're gonna be doing a lot "soon" huh? 😂
wow, trying to protect the cheap workmanship of the log boiler
In no way. I share how it works and what I think about it. Did you watch the video? I’m not protecting anything
Only if you have no neighbors for miles. You smoke them out and they can file lawsuits against you.
No
Why beat the hell....out of the side????
Did you watch the video. I explain what is going on
So all the equipment was free and the wood was free and the installation was free
and the registers and piping was free so its a free heat movement , now I get it.
You obviously didn't watch the video.
This can't be real.
Im confused, you call it a log boiler, but youre burning the logs, not boiling them. Also you said you need hot coals, but theres no fire coming off them, how can they even be hot? Most confusing of all, you said that you burn ash... How can you burn ash when it all falls in ash tray? Are you just dumping that tray back into the "boiler"? Seems a little redundant to me....
It's hard to be confused if you don't burn firewood. Keep cuttin'!
It is really more of a log-powered boiler. Uses burning logs to heat water and make steam running through tubes under/around the building. That is how radiators work. Many boilers run on gas, but they are using log power for the heat on this one.
When wood gets deeply burned it turns into coals. It is glowing orange and usually has a gray coating of ash around the outside. If you scrape off that bit of ash, inside you find a very hot slow burning ball of coal fire.
And finally, the Ash he talks about burning at the end is the tree variety called Ash trees. Like Oak, Maple, Pine or Beech. He is going to use logs from Ash trees. He doesn't mean the burnt ash that comes from a fire.
No steam. Just hot water being pumped through the registers. Its an open loop system. Everything else you are spot on with!
Just stack it dead center of your bucket
Free heat? How you figure?
@@benjaminleatham1587 however you want to take it.
I explain that in the video
@@WhiskeyRiverTradingCo no such thing as free heat. If time was put into it, that’s time that couldn’t be used earning income, which cost you money.
@@benjaminleatham1587 so on that logic sitting in your yard watching the birds isn’t free either. Always gotta be working!!!
@@WhiskeyRiverTradingCo the only time I’m not working is when I’m too exhausted to keep going. But it’s not really work if you love what you do;)
Why don't you ratchet strap a 5gal bucket to one end of the bucket.
Great idea
Its not going to last long treating it like that.
Nothing is free. What does the skid cost?
Keep commenting Bub!
Insulate your shop, and you could use propane heat for far less money than with that setup. Not too mention all the additional work involved. Remember, time is money when you own a business....
I enjoy it…and we make good money from the views it generates. Hard to make videos about propane heat!
You could make videos on insulation lol
@@975xpturbo that’s the plan. Next step is a new roof and insulation for the shop. Can’t afford to do it all at once. Baby steps.
Free heat? 😂😂 nope not really. So the loader was free? And the time cutting and hauling and storing the wood has no value? Well maybe. 😂
It's only free if you value your time at $0, If you're tired don't have anything to do but chop wood Great, I'll continue working and paying my heat pump to heat my house
Did you watch the video? I explain it.
I value my time at about $150K per year, which is my household’s combined income. I’d happily leave my 950 SF apartment and go down south to my 2 acres once my homestead is complete. Chopping firewood isn’t an everyday activity, it keeps you strong and healthy because it’s exercise. No overpriced heating bills or reliance on contractors either. As someone who grew up in NYC with 0 insulation in the walls, old ass boiler & hot water heater, $1200/per year ain’t worth it. Nor the $10Ks it costs to insulate an entire house. Over time the cost is ridiculous just for decent heating
@ You get it! We bought this old place with little to no insulation. 80 cords of dead standing hardwood on the property. Figured out the heat first so that the buildings were heated while we work on them. And everytime we insulate another section it will use less wood. We spend 2 weekends a year cutting wood. Then the 30-1 hour a day loading. Firewood=Freedom. Everyone burned wood up until recent history.
@@WhiskeyRiverTradingCo I started watchigen your channel recently do you mind if I ask about your firewood business? I have 2 acres in North Carolina do you think it would be smart to grow trees on that land while I work and save money in NY for the homestead ?
@@cheyennethomas5101I grew up in MI with only a wood stove. Trees take years to grow, and you only have 2 acres.You'll have to buy wood. Just my opinion.
Just stack your pile of wood you’re dumping in there on the one side of the bucket. You don’t have to fill the entire bucket.
It’s not free heat. You still have to have a resource of fuel. Wood 🪵 some people. Most people don’t have that..
Well. I have plenty of this type of fuel.