Trumpet player is warming up rather loudly in the kitchen of the club. Club owner comes in and yells, "take that outside!" The trumpet player plays his last phrase a half step up...
I 've heard about playing out for years but never really "got it" before. Much more straight forward than I realized! (though clearly much time needs to be taken to practice going in and out of the key to make it work well for yourself and your listener) Fantastic lesson Adam! I am learning so much here and with the Open Studio site. Thank you!
I love the clear explanation of the theory behind the use of the concepts - not just copy this or that. I have just subscribed and have learned so much in the past couple of weeks watching these series!!!
Right at the end Adam hits on a real caveat to playing out. That is you can't sound "weak with this stuff . . ." Meaning that you can't sound tentative. You just can't just run (pentatonic) scales. You will sound like a robot. But to not sound like a robot you have to have the scale notes and patterns in your finger tips. It's got to be automatic. So you first have to labor through the scales and patterns just to get your brain in gear. At first you will sound like a robot. But if you use your ear and be aware of what you don't want to sound like, you can (just a little) sound like Adam (and Peter).
As always your playing is great, but Is really “outside” when your left hand supports the key change until you are done? Us non chording players want to know. Thanks.
I've watched quite a few lessons in bbn playing out and this is by far the best. This was a very good description of what needs to happen contrasted with what I bbn possible and can happen
Hey, that’s great! Thank you very much for these beautiful(!) demonstrations! If I may, I have two questions, though: 1) You seem to be “supporting” your “playing out” with your left hand, is that right? I.e. in your Cm7 example you do not seem to stick in your left hand to something that can be called still “Cm7”, right? Could you elaborate a bit on that? - What is it that you play in your left hand? It is such a beautiful and familiar sound, but despite rather strong theory background I did not get what you do in your left hand. - Was that something that was to some extent a part of you playing outside? Or would/could you have used the same left hand chords when still playing inside with your right hand? 2) Do you have advise and/or examples for those of us who are not fast with their fingers (other than the advice to practice more :-D ) for possibly still being able to use the “color of out” even when not being able to flood the airspace with 16ths?
the first question is actually a my personal dilemma that I've been trying to find out about the "correct" way to do it, and it seems there are no clear explanations I can find. As a piano player in band, what do I do with my left hand when playing outside during solo? Do I follow the right hand chord and leave the bass player playing the original changes? Should I try to follow the chord when there's saxophone solo playing "outside"?
Hey Adam, thanks for the wonderful lesson, one question..in the Cm7 chord can I add the 5th? (G) to improvise using the Dmaj7 scale. I'm a bit orthodox about the study of harmony, but I'm trying to incorporate these ideas of improvising "outside" because the final sound is very interesting 🙂
Trumpet player is warming up rather loudly in the kitchen of the club. Club owner comes in and yells, "take that outside!" The trumpet player plays his last phrase a half step up...
Perfect musician joke.
So good!! It’s crazy to think what it would take to get these kind of nuggets without this channel. Thank you.
Holy sheet, I have to learn to play jazz!
Great demonstration! Thank you for sharing
This is one hell of a series!
Best jazz lesson I’ve had since I studied my M.A, thank you for the wonderful teaching Adam!
Fascinating lessons and teachings..... Many thanks.
I 've heard about playing out for years but never really "got it" before. Much more straight forward than I realized! (though clearly much time needs to be taken to practice going in and out of the key to make it work well for yourself and your listener) Fantastic lesson Adam! I am learning so much here and with the Open Studio site. Thank you!
i love the concept of repeated motifs... shift them half steps up and down
I love the clear explanation of the theory behind the use of the concepts - not just copy this or that. I have just subscribed and have learned so much in the past couple of weeks watching these series!!!
Right at the end Adam hits on a real caveat to playing out. That is you can't sound "weak with this stuff . . ." Meaning that you can't sound tentative. You just can't just run (pentatonic) scales. You will sound like a robot. But to not sound like a robot you have to have the scale notes and patterns in your finger tips. It's got to be automatic. So you first have to labor through the scales and patterns just to get your brain in gear. At first you will sound like a robot. But if you use your ear and be aware of what you don't want to sound like, you can (just a little) sound like Adam (and Peter).
Geoffrey Keezer has an advanced course with the Open Studio Jazz but it's one very challenging class!
Fantastic!
As always your playing is great, but Is really “outside” when your left hand supports the key change until you are done? Us non chording players want to know. Thanks.
that triadic concept is awesome! never heard of doing that before. Super cool.
These ideas are great. Difficult stuff though but rewarding. 👍
Muchas gracias por este contenido ❤️
I'm really glad I found this channel!
Great tips.
Great stuff!!
This helps so much
So glad I stumbled onto this channel, keep up the excellent work guys.
They have a great podcast too! It's called "You'll Hear it".
I've watched quite a few lessons in bbn playing out and this is by far the best. This was a very good description of what needs to happen contrasted with what I bbn possible and can happen
Hey, that’s great! Thank you very much for these beautiful(!) demonstrations!
If I may, I have two questions, though:
1) You seem to be “supporting” your “playing out” with your left hand, is that right? I.e. in your Cm7 example you do not seem to stick in your left hand to something that can be called still “Cm7”, right? Could you elaborate a bit on that?
- What is it that you play in your left hand? It is such a beautiful and familiar sound, but despite rather strong theory background I did not get what you do in your left hand.
- Was that something that was to some extent a part of you playing outside? Or would/could you have used the same left hand chords when still playing inside with your right hand?
2) Do you have advise and/or examples for those of us who are not fast with their fingers (other than the advice to practice more :-D ) for possibly still being able to use the “color of out” even when not being able to flood the airspace with 16ths?
the first question is actually a my personal dilemma that I've been trying to find out about the "correct" way to do it, and it seems there are no clear explanations I can find. As a piano player in band, what do I do with my left hand when playing outside during solo? Do I follow the right hand chord and leave the bass player playing the original changes? Should I try to follow the chord when there's saxophone solo playing "outside"?
Hey Adam, thanks for the wonderful lesson, one question..in the Cm7 chord can I add the 5th? (G) to improvise using the Dmaj7 scale. I'm a bit orthodox about the study of harmony, but I'm trying to incorporate these ideas of improvising "outside" because the final sound is very interesting 🙂
Why wouldn't you ?
How does that work to have information such as to be connected real time? Thank You.
Roberto from Italy
Wow this is amazing thank you so much Adam and Peter... Lot of love from France!
McCoy!
Nice episode, Adam!
Thanks. But your patterns sound really good! Can you share it with us??
Awesome, very useful!
Mulgrew Miller does this fantastically in his rendition of "Body and Soul".
One of the hippest 'outs' I've heard was Chick doing b major scale on c minor. So cool 🐱
lol I thought you said Bb major
Thanks
what’s that song in the intro?
Thank you for this! Awesome!
It sounds awful and that's why I love it 🤩🤩🤩
5:39 mistake? E and C# triads are in the same inversion?
Really sound like McCoy around 3:25.
Come on Ryan, we need a reaction on that! :P
You're good
Isn't "side slipping" an instance of this?
It's sort of an expansion of the blue note.
Fresh ideas ....thanks adam
2:34 idk am i weird? Cuz i just like dissonance without resolutions lol.
Adam slow down, brother, show a slow motion sample for the beginners and intermediate. Thanks!
This was plenty slow for me and Im a beginner....
I think it is simply wrong to say that when playing outside one plays notes that “don’t quite fit”. If they sound good then they fit. End of story.