I've got to say in my opinion you should have far more subscribers! All the information given out, not to mention the builds that are pieces of art. then the amazing canyon itself I just feel people are really missing out!
The process to work around the fact that the join button does not appear in the app is annoying enough that I just don't want to bother people with it. The real question is, why isn't there a join button in the app?
Under the video if you tap on the little round icon the one with the truck it takes you to a page and on that page it says subscribe and next to it says join. I'm using the cell phone app. I am putting my 3yr old to bed and just found it to my surprise. Hopefully this will get out there!
Always love a good Junkview! I didn't have hopes for them. Then I kinda had hopes and then I didn't! At least they are completely junk! Good to know about the spring pack.
I put these on our Gmade Buffalo (kit) and they actually do the job surprisingly well. I put a Hobbywing Axe in it so logically I had to cheap out on the shocks.
Most Amazon shocks are hopeless, these at least work. I don't think they'll live forever, and they're certainly not the best shocks I've ever seen, but they manage to hold on to (most) of the oil.
@@CrawlerCanyon they've already lasted much longer than the factory shocks included in the Gmade kit. I reckon that doesn't surprise you if you've ever seen those. Definitely the Achilles heel of the Buffalo.
maybe try the 2 spring setup with short springs (the good ones like losi mini t or element etc) on these - just to try - that can be interesting to see if it works
Hey I had these on my scx10 type chassis until I got tired of those orings squeezing out when I put the cap on. Pretty decent shocks they work well, and rc4wd rrd springs fit that shock. The brass thing in the cap kept falling out too.
I'm currently waiting on delivery of a set of 100mm kyx dravtech copies, arriving in the next few days. I'll let you know what they are like. £16/pair on aliexpress (roughly $19 i think). Somehow I doubt they will remain stock for long before i start fettling and tuning them!
Axial has been around all these years and still makes leaky shocks. They're getting better, but they're not there. Vanquish wears the crown for stinky shocks-- not only do S8Es not hold oil most of the time, but the pocket for the seals is a random size, so it's
Honestly I feel like you should team up with a company to consult on the design of some of these parts. Or better yet, a “Canyon Tuned” version of an existing truck. Basically a crawler equivalent of the TLR tuned Typhon.
Man, it hurts to see things are available to my country are always garbage, at least you explain why they suck so, i can try to avoid the same mistakes. I have more than half of those junk review parts fitted on my SCX10 and they are not cheap here. :( Pain.
That is indeed what the math says for springs in series. But does nothing to explain why I can change out a pair of 3.4lb springs in series with a single 2.4lb spring and it acts softer. Stacked springs have never worked IMO, and continue to not work now. Ignoring the math, I have never in my life seen an instance where springs in series are compressed and both springs collapse at the same rate. Not once. Because the top spring doesn't see the same force as the bottom spring-- it sees that force after it passes through the lower spring. So the halving of the rate for the doubling of the coils seems to me to be something that only occurs if both ends of the spring are experiencing an equal force simultaneously. But we will likely never (or close to never) see the same load at both ends of the spring. As I've said-- I'm not a mathematician, but I have seen what does and doesn't work.
First I absolutely hate the ball retention the rod ends use. I have flashbacks and nightmares from the brass retainer rattling loose and making the thing useless. Second if these didn't have the crappy rod ends and the small piston, would it be worth it to replace the piston with a better fitting one
I think we can agree that on a rock crawler, we'd all trade skinnier shafts for bigger seals, because not leaking straight-out-of-the-package is a pretty nice feature.
what are you going to do with the stiffer springs bc i have a trx4 2021 bronco that weights in at about 12lb an i have the stock shocks with traxes stiffest spring they make for it an i could use alittle bit stiffer.
@@CrawlerCanyon right on! I believe I have a VS410 chassis on the way, going to put the Desert Lizards on it and send some pictures to Josh at HarleyDesigns.😆
I'll never hate on a shock that is perfectly functional. So long a shock checks the boxes of "doesn't leak, correct length, can be tuned" it's good to go.
@@StubbsRC I don't even have a rig yet. I got the DLs in anticipation of getting one(life happens). I haven't put any oil in them, but I've been playing with spring tuning.
Beside changing the springs, I also replaced the seals and 3d printed the pistons when buying cheap unknown shocks for RC... Yeah... In the scale between costs and labors, you're very dead on target... Thanks... But never skimp on shocks in a real 1:1 vehicle....
100% with you on 1:1 shocks. Had Tein Super Street (re-sprung and re-valved) in my previous car, and Super Street (complete with EDFC) in my current car.
Best statement of the week. " I apologize Susan we're going to get you all messy, I'm going straight in " 😂😂😂😂😂😂
That was good!🤣🤣🤣
I've got to say in my opinion you should have far more subscribers! All the information given out, not to mention the builds that are pieces of art. then the amazing canyon itself I just feel people are really missing out!
Fully agree and I would be among the members already if I could find a “jointhecrawlercanyoncrew” button
The process to work around the fact that the join button does not appear in the app is annoying enough that I just don't want to bother people with it. The real question is, why isn't there a join button in the app?
Under the video if you tap on the little round icon the one with the truck it takes you to a page and on that page it says subscribe and next to it says join. I'm using the cell phone app. I am putting my 3yr old to bed and just found it to my surprise. Hopefully this will get out there!
Yep I agree too, i tell anyone who talks about crawlers about the channel.
Finally somebody rate those.....and yes they are crap... not budget! If you want budget, get plain ZDracing shocks and tune them😉
Always love a good Junkview! I didn't have hopes for them. Then I kinda had hopes and then I didn't! At least they are completely junk! Good to know about the spring pack.
I love the fact that you deep dive into these shocks. 👌👌👌😎😎😎😎😎
I put these on our Gmade Buffalo (kit) and they actually do the job surprisingly well. I put a Hobbywing Axe in it so logically I had to cheap out on the shocks.
Spent All the budget on motor lol.
@@JUSTHAVEFUNRC exactly. It mostly serves as a trail truck for the boy so "Sharegoo" will do fine.
Most Amazon shocks are hopeless, these at least work. I don't think they'll live forever, and they're certainly not the best shocks I've ever seen, but they manage to hold on to (most) of the oil.
@@CrawlerCanyon they've already lasted much longer than the factory shocks included in the Gmade kit. I reckon that doesn't surprise you if you've ever seen those. Definitely the Achilles heel of the Buffalo.
maybe try the 2 spring setup with short springs (the good ones like losi mini t or element etc) on these - just to try - that can be interesting
to see if it works
Hey I had these on my scx10 type chassis until I got tired of those orings squeezing out when I put the cap on. Pretty decent shocks they work well, and rc4wd rrd springs fit that shock. The brass thing in the cap kept falling out too.
Informative as always, I learn something every time I watch thanks.
I'm currently waiting on delivery of a set of 100mm kyx dravtech copies, arriving in the next few days. I'll let you know what they are like. £16/pair on aliexpress (roughly $19 i think).
Somehow I doubt they will remain stock for long before i start fettling and tuning them!
I love anything to do with shocks
Thanks for informational videos! I can't believe companies sell ANY of these that can't hold oil, isn't that the point?
Axial has been around all these years and still makes leaky shocks. They're getting better, but they're not there. Vanquish wears the crown for stinky shocks-- not only do S8Es not hold oil most of the time, but the pocket for the seals is a random size, so it's
Interesting. 😎😎😎😎.
Honestly I feel like you should team up with a company to consult on the design of some of these parts. Or better yet, a “Canyon Tuned” version of an existing truck. Basically a crawler equivalent of the TLR tuned Typhon.
Let's just say they're not beating a path to my door.
Man, it hurts to see things are available to my country are always garbage, at least you explain why they suck so, i can try to avoid the same mistakes. I have more than half of those junk review parts fitted on my SCX10 and they are not cheap here. :( Pain.
Stacking two 3.4lb/in springs results in a 1.7lb/in total spring rate due to twice as many active coils.
That is indeed what the math says for springs in series. But does nothing to explain why I can change out a pair of 3.4lb springs in series with a single 2.4lb spring and it acts softer. Stacked springs have never worked IMO, and continue to not work now. Ignoring the math, I have never in my life seen an instance where springs in series are compressed and both springs collapse at the same rate. Not once. Because the top spring doesn't see the same force as the bottom spring-- it sees that force after it passes through the lower spring. So the halving of the rate for the doubling of the coils seems to me to be something that only occurs if both ends of the spring are experiencing an equal force simultaneously. But we will likely never (or close to never) see the same load at both ends of the spring. As I've said-- I'm not a mathematician, but I have seen what does and doesn't work.
First I absolutely hate the ball retention the rod ends use. I have flashbacks and nightmares from the brass retainer rattling loose and making the thing useless.
Second if these didn't have the crappy rod ends and the small piston, would it be worth it to replace the piston with a better fitting one
Better pistons might make them functional. No getting around those dumb 3.5mm shafts, though.
I for one do not mind 3.5mm shafts, i have broken too many 3 mm shafts to count over the years.
But, that is the cost of RC rock bouncing i guess.
I think we can agree that on a rock crawler, we'd all trade skinnier shafts for bigger seals, because not leaking straight-out-of-the-package is a pretty nice feature.
@@CrawlerCanyon True true, i think i have only ever broken 1 shock shaft rock crawling and that was from a 20 foot fall onto jagged rocks.
This seems like something you should return.
what are you going to do with the stiffer springs bc i have a trx4 2021 bronco that weights in at about 12lb an i have the stock shocks with traxes stiffest spring they make for it an i could use alittle bit stiffer.
i could use the other springs on one of my other builds its going to be a off road wrecker and a haul truck for a big gooseneck trailer.
Life's too short to use shitty shocks. So should I keep my 90mm Desert Lizards?
The Desert Lizard is the king of "bargain" shocks, IMO. I'm running... 5 sets?
@@CrawlerCanyon right on! I believe I have a VS410 chassis on the way, going to put the Desert Lizards on it and send some pictures to Josh at HarleyDesigns.😆
I'll never hate on a shock that is perfectly functional. So long a shock checks the boxes of "doesn't leak, correct length, can be tuned" it's good to go.
I run DL on 3 rigs. No complaints. I catch flak for it all the time
@@StubbsRC I don't even have a rig yet. I got the DLs in anticipation of getting one(life happens). I haven't put any oil in them, but I've been playing with spring tuning.
I believe the app on IPhone does not work, I had to log in on my computer to subscribe. After that it works on the prone.
A Google operated company would NEVER make things more difficult for a competitor's product to operate. NEVER. PERISH THE THOUGHT.🤨
@@CrawlerCanyon 🤪
Beside changing the springs, I also replaced the seals and 3d printed the pistons when buying cheap unknown shocks for RC... Yeah... In the scale between costs and labors, you're very dead on target... Thanks... But never skimp on shocks in a real 1:1 vehicle....
100% with you on 1:1 shocks. Had Tein Super Street (re-sprung and re-valved) in my previous car, and Super Street (complete with EDFC) in my current car.
Fingernails man
Thanks for the info nonetheless 😊