Non-Binary and Religious: The Public Universal Friend // Historical Profile // Vlogmas 2019 Day 19
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I can't believe you skipped the part about their wife! The PUF met a couple and shortly after the husband died and the now widow moved in with the Friend, and started calling herself Mrs Friend. After the Mrs' death, she left custody of her young son to the friend.
Mrs. Friend!!!?!!? That's awesome
I dont want to claim youre a liar, but do you have any sources? Wikipedia isnt helping :(
'Another person identity does not invalidate your own and that you don't have the right to invalidate theirs'. OOOF. Thank you Jessica for providing such a safe space and for not tolerating hate. You are amazing! Love the video :)
i know Im randomly asking but does any of you know of a tool to log back into an Instagram account..?
I was stupid lost my account password. I love any tips you can offer me.
@Branson Ford Instablaster =)
@Caiden Timothy I really appreciate your reply. I got to the site thru google and I'm waiting for the hacking stuff now.
I see it takes quite some time so I will get back to you later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
@Caiden Timothy It did the trick and I actually got access to my account again. I'm so happy:D
Thank you so much, you saved my ass !
@Branson Ford Glad I could help :)
I'm not sure if it's because I'm hormonal, but when you did your gender disclaimer at the beginning I instantly started crying. This non binary person appreciates you SO MUCH!!! I feel so seen right meow.
{{HUGZ}}
Life is about more than gender. Seek God.
It's good to see that NB eccentric fashion taste has always been a thing 😂😂 all of my non-binary friends dress in some modern equivalent of that description, including me before I came out as transmasc (now I just dress either punk or like a grandpa)
Same
Okay, so i haven’t actually fully watched this video, but thank you for talking about an early non-binary icon!! Of course we don’t know if the Friend did actually would have used “non-binary,” but as a non-binary person, hearing about this is awesome. Also, I love that you as a cis lesbian use your platform to promote these sorts of stories in a positive way while acknowledging that because of changes in language we don’t know for certain how to refer to historical figures
EXACTLY. I'm also nb/trans
yes! as a trans nb ish person, i love this
The thing is, we always put disclaimers like "we don't know if they would identify as non-binary/gay/transgender/bisexual, etc" but we never hear "we don't know if they identified as straight/heterosexual/cisgender". The notion of heterosexuality didn't exist either yet people don't seem to walk on eggshells around considering past figures as straight and cis.
Ok, I was a very sheltered Christian kid (my dad has been a pastor my whole life), who didn't learn about LGBT+ until I was 11(?), and 7/10 of my friends came out as genderfluid/sapphic/nonbinary (or something else). Then I was told it was bad and a "mental illness" and all that stuff you'd expect them to tell me. I was too scared to disagree with my parents until I turned 16.
However, I remember learning a little bit about The Friend in like, 4th grade(?) because we were learning about why some religious groups separated from England as a lead up to the American Civil War. And I loved when I was told The Friend was a Christian, felt neither man nor woman, and used "Friend" as a pronoun, and wished I could get sick with a fever and become like The Friend and use "Friend" pronouns.
Now I'm a queer Christian who is genderfluid!
Friend/Friend's pronouns still sound so cool though.
Edit: Someone in a different comment talked about how Friend actually was friends with a couple at one point, but then the husband died, so then the wife changed her name to Mrs. Friend and lived with Universal Friend until her death. I remember going "Yeah, I think I'd do that if I had a close friend who's husband just died." Young me, I don't think that was what you think it was.
"Bedtime activities that aren't sleeping or brushing your teeth"
Genius. Pure genius
If both men and women were created in God's image, then I imagine God doesn't technically have a specific gender, so differing from traditional norms shouldn't be considered aberrant. I will never understand why it bothers some people so much.
Because these norms are pretty heavily pressed on everybody with the typical stereotypes that come with it and getting than outside of these norms questions this ´´ normality ´´ and can make people confused and angry.
I compare to when I people ask me if I want a beer or some other alcoholic drink and when I say no people immeditaly say ´´ why ? ´´ and sometimes get really pushy because drinking is ´´ normalized ´´ so questioning it causes people to get defensive because refusing to this norm is seen as an attack to what is considered ´´ normal ´´.
@@aroace7913 dude I felt that, as someone who doesn't drink either. for some personal and medical reasons, as well as just not liking the taste. but why is it anyone's business what I do or don't drink??
To quote my very religious and transphobic father. God doesn't have a gender (he meant sex, probably) but has made it very clear that he is to be spoken of and addressed with masculine pronouns...
No he doesn't seem to be experiencing any cognitive dissonance
@@insertname1857 Lucky you dont live in Eire, You'd be kicked out of the pub for asking for a soft drink 😂
God created man first, then woman. God identifies as MALE all throughout the Scriptures.
Thank goodness you have uploaded, my 18 year old daughter has been waiting patiently for today's upload. She is having a bit of a rough time at the moment. She has chronic pain due to NF1 and Scoliosis. Doctors will not give her strong painkillers only paracetamol and ibuprofen and don't seem to understand the pain she's in. Your videos always make her happier as she feels less alone. Thank you for the joy you bring her❤️❤️❤️
Sending lots of love to your daughter and my best wishes ❤️She's lucky to have such a strong parent by her side xxx
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Your daughter has my sincere empathy. I have had fibro and chronic pain since I was a young teen, didn't get diagnosed until I was 20. I'm 25 and only just got painkillers and only because I have osteoarthritis (degenerative disk disease). I hope your daughter knows she has a wonderful community of peers around her 💜
Wishing for more compassionate doctors who will prescribe the medication she needs ❤ also have fibro - naprogesic tablets might help in conjunction with paracetamol/ibuprofen combo rapid release like Nuromol ❤❤
@@jessicaoutofthecloset thank you. Seeing someone else with similar problems does really help her. Sometimes she feels so isolated from her friends. 😔
7:18
"because when your the leader of a cult you can wear whatever you like."
I mean she not wrong, haha...
Hope that doesn't awake anything in me :/
You’re such a lovely storyteller, Jessica. I really enjoy listening to you.
I knew you would make a warm, wholesome video about non binary people. You're a treasure.
LOVE THIS, I LOVE THE "just move along...." I'm teary, because you are making this a safe place to share about this human being. You don't take sides, you just smile and make me and many others happy!
We live in a world where many people’s “side” is that they don’t want minorities to have rights and freedoms. JKF is taking a side. There’s nothing wrong with aligning yourself with liberation. I understand your response to Jessica’s affect completely, just be wary of ill informed both-sides-ism.
I adore how you deal with things..."Do you reeeeeally want to?, reeeally??" and the *bat*bat of your eyes, sheer perfection!!
The best thing about the Public Universal Friend is their name. Best NB name ever.
Jessica, that was the kindest most respectful way to tell people to "f*ck off" I have ever heard. Love you lots. (Hi Claudia.)
This is quite a timely video. It is refreshing to see you do this, after reading such awful transphobia on Twitter the last few days. My heart breaks for our LGBTQIA++ family and I’m glad I deleted my Twitter account (the hate there is intense--too intense to read every, single day). So, thank you for be such a sparkling light in the darkness, dear Jessica 💜🏳️🌈
As a non-binary person, I am here for this! Though I am not religious, I find religion fascinating and know LGBT+ people who *are* religious. So, no problem or judgment. Also, I had never heard of this person before, so thank you for telling their story!
Elise: Trans 👏 People 👏 Can 👏 be 👏 Religious 👏
I identify as transgender (ftm) and I am a member of the church of Jesus Christ of Latterday Saints. Even though I have certain beliefs that I follow in my religion it doesn't make my body dysphoria go away so I do what I can for it while still following my beliefs in the church. ITS OK TO BE TRANS AND RELIGIOUS.
YOU
ARE
VALID
*throws table*
I'm trans and don't seek any validation from anyone. I validate myself, and sometimes seek validation from God/ JC/ Universe
And chances are pretty good that your religious source materials even support the concept of someone being transgender or otherwise not being simply the two binary cis genders as expected.
If you follow any judeo-christian religion then it does indeed support such once ya look at the religious text of the older of those religions like Judaism which establishes 8 potential genders, not two.
thanks man
I just watched your "Plain Blue Walls" video. It was beautiful. Thank you for sharing that
I'm an exmo myself, and that's very interesting to me. I would not have thought anyone could be trans and also mormon given what the church teaches about sexuality and gender. I left the church myself partly because of those issues, and I'm a cis lesbian. Not to pry, but are you accepted by other members? Most members of the church that I grew up with are not properly respectful towards trans people.
I love the story of the Public Universal Friend, such a fascinating individual.
'Stuff you Missed in History Class' has an EXCELLENT episode on the PUF.
My favorite part is that when The Friend was misgendered, they would either quote the Bible with a comeback or just flat out ignore the person
i LOVE how even their wikipedia page uses non-gendered terms(and uses The friend""
This is so cool! Even of we can't know if they would have identified as trans or nb just hearing about gender non conforming people is so comforting for me as an enby myself. Especially when they had a prominent role in their community.
That was so interesting. I had never heard of "the friend" before this. Thanks for making your history related videos. It always makes me want to learn more. Thanks for taking the time to research and put this video together.
I'm so excited that you're covering them! I saw the pic on Twitter and immediately thought of you, since it's the intersection of LGBTQIA history and Quakerism.
They were such a badass, fighting to forge their own identity and path in a very conservative era. A freaking icon!
i clicked on this so fast i love the friend, and as a nonbinary quaker its very wonderful to learn about them
I had never heard of "the friend" before this video. You can fill volumes with the history and teachings that are left out or swept under the rug as something the past has deemed false or distasteful based on nothing but their own beliefs or morality.
I saw non binary in the title and I just had to watch it.
Yay representation!
Maybe they were like bro.... i almost DIED, IM NOT LIVING MY LIFE DENYING WHO I AM ANYMORE, made up this story and boom now we’re here 😹
s d Sounds legit.
A person doesn't get revelation from angels. Only God himself.
"If this isn't the video for you just move on to the next one" Pauses video, gets cup of tea, blanket and a cat and settles in. This is definitely the video for me!
I wonder if The Friend had a fever dream and a near death experience due to the illness that lead The Friend to embrace their gender identity and true personality.?
Either way to this NonBinary... PUF is an amazing person and I love them!
*"Really [blink]."* I just love that you have a way of talking about important people remaining serious, keeping it interesting but never losing the sass, mesmerizing.
Jessica, I always learn so much from your historical/Quaker/sometimes even queer videos! I had never heard of the Friend before, as I've had virtually no exposure to Quakerism before your videos! It's awesome that there is a historical nonbinary icon. Thank you for not just being open and cheerful and honest, but educational! You are great!
I have never pressed on a video so fast I’m nb and I love you Jessica so i immediately watched it x
lmao same
Emely Fritsche hi.
Same!
Thank you for making your channel a safe place for trans and non-binary people ❤❤
A safe place?
I've always wondered if you'd heard of my family lol. They started the first Quaker meeting house in Virginia. Actually had their land taken from them because they weren't "legally married" and had to write back over seas to have someone write over to vouche for their marriage to get their land back. Colonel John Pleasants is his name he's my 10th great grandfather. (Despite being a Quaker he did participate in the Civil War and was a POW) He lived in Ceres, VA. I know how much you love history.
I’m currently training to be a docent at a Rhode Island history museum, and there’s an entire exhibit about the Friend…which uses the Friend’s deadname and femme pronouns nearly exclusively. I recently plucked up the courage to ask that they change the display to refer to them by their chosen name and (lack of) pronouns, and they agreed! 🥰
I messaged a friend who I was in stroke rehab with and we are meeting for tea on Saturday xx
I love you! 😍 And your wife Claudia to!
Thanks for:
- what you do
- who you are
- what you represent
- your lovely being
- positivity
- pacifism
- respect
And to make me happy! 😘😘😘
I went down a Wikipedia rabbit hole today and discovered the story of the Publick Universal Friend. I said "I wonder if anyone has talked about them on RUclips" and here we are! Thank you, Jessica!
I love this. Non-binary represent! I'm so happy you decided to cover this
The P.U.F. is part of my first introduction to Quakerism, and might be part of why im so interested today as a Nonbinary person struggling to find a place in spirituality. Thank you for covering them.
This was fascinating. I always enjoy your videos and as a native Rhode Islander it was lovely to learn more about the historical events taking place where I live apart from the things you’re taught in school history.
ETA: I watched the clip again this morning with my husband, as he grew up in Cumberland, RI. After some additional research on his part he learned the house he grew up in was within a mile of the Public Universal Friends homestead. He’s very much into history and genealogy so this was right up his alley. Thanks again for the lesson, much appreciated.
Love and Peace from Little Rhode Island in America.
I could hear you all day talking about anyhting 😍 with you I learn things I didn't even know.
Can we please have a GIF with Jessica saying 'Always examine your motives before posting a mean comment. Do you really want to do that? Really????' XD
I have a friend who us bisexual and Christian. I'm so glad I have her as a friend so we can make a safe space while also being able to mention God
I have never heard of this person. I love your series on historical profiles!! Thank you!
I was reading about them yesterday and I’m so glad you’re bringing awareness to their story!
Public Universal Friends aesthetic speeks to me deeply.
i am personally not a religious person and i never heard of "the friend" before this video but i am open minded and I thoroughly enjoy history videos. Love you jessica, you are one of my favourite youtubers
Found this video fascinating! Also, can I just say that your fringe game lately is on point Jessica! 😍
I can't keep up with Vlogmas! I will get to all of them eventually, might take extra time! This was a great video, i learned a LOT form this one! Thank you Jessica! 💖👍🥰💯
I just read about this person for the first time ever a week or so ago! I was very intrigued when I came across them. Thanks for doing a video on the topic!
I love your historical profiles, Jessica! I would love to see you make even more. You have a very nice way of explaining things :)
What a fascinating story. It's one I'd never heard before. Thank you Jessica for sharing it. I've always been interested in other people's religions, beliefs and traditions. Happy holidays to you, Claudia and your lovely puppies!
I have vaguely heard this story but thank you for the details ! I didn't know them. I have always thought it kind of odd that you place your hand on the bible in court. I am a practising liberal Anglican. I believe my faith is inside me and all around me. It's the holy spirit working in me. The bible is just like a 'workbook' it isn't holy in and of itself. Nor is the cross. I wouldn't lie in court but touching the bible isn't what would influence me . It's just an item.
I actually did learn about the public universal friend in my US History class! We’ll learn is maybe a strong word, they were just mentioned in a section about religion between the two great religious awakenings in early America. But it was so cool to get an in depth look at their life! I love the historical profiles, they’re one of my favorite types of videos :)
I had not heard about the PUF before- thank you for enlightening me...
My fiancée came across the Public Universal Friend sometime months ago and we’ve been hoping that you’d do a video on them ever since! Such an interesting figure in history!
Yay! I was wondering if you'd ever make a video on them, so I'm glad you did!
I’m wondering if in the future when you make videos on historical/factual topics that use information from beyond your already held personal knowledge, you could list your sources + further reading in the description box. It’s not that I distrust you-you could tell me the earth is flat and I’d say you’ve got a point because I love this channel so much-I just think it might be a great standard to set and something to consider!
Yooo Cumberland Rhode island is my hometown, cool piece of RI history I never knew before!
I'm cis but it doesn't stop me appreciating this video and the safe place you've tried to create. My two favorite bits were you pointing out the idea wasn't new to the Native Americans and that religion tends to be culty. Thank you for the lovely informative video. Would you consider talking more about nonbinary thinking in other cultures? Maybe that could be a fun colab with someone.
I love the way your 'jumper' (sweatshirt) looks with a collar. I was hoping it came with that collar because you look slightly more 'formal'.
Hello lovely people translated in the subtitles to hello lovely evil 😈😂😂😂
We learned about small religious communities in early America in school and couple months ago, but I had no idea that this was how one of them started!!
I somehow entirely missed this thing on Twitter but wow! This was fascinating. I love these history videos so much and I’m delighted we had one for Christmas ☺️ -S
I learned a new word road:Millenialism.
Idk why but I like this one.
my boo appreciates you making it a 'winter jumper' she is muslim and I am agnostic so Christmas is.... not a thing in our house. Also, you and Claud are our peer inspo's (I'm disabled with ED and chronic pain/ fatigue and she is 'able bodied' to most people but has balance issues) I wish that the world was more sympathetic to samesex disabled couples but every post you make has this ripple effect that makes it easier for us :D/
Pre Diagnosis chronically person here having a rough time bc doctors are garbage so this video was a nice change for today bc I saw it trending and was jsut hoping you would make a video about it!
Love historical profile playlist! so happy you made a new one!
Hadn't heard of this person until just now. I'm very surprised That the trans community here hadn't commented on it either. I had not come across them in my own research either! I love learning new stuff!
I’m so excited to hear Jessica talk about Rhode Island; I know that’s silly but I adore her and her talking about my home state is exciting for me
Am trying to understand what all this means one thing that am sure of is respect is a big part of the conversation! Thank you again for bringing something again to my attention that I wasn't aware of . And as before am head to library to get more information.
I REALLY hope you do more of these, I just can't get enough!
Huzzah! I hoped you'd do a video on the Friend soon!
I've been waiting for this video!!! Just like all historical persons, we can only go on evidence and accounts and sadly will never have a definite answer. But people like this show these sorts of feelings and personal views and actions are very very old, something I feel some people struggle with understanding. That people today are not so different from the past, even if certain groups would like to make it seem as if all these 'new fangled words' are a modern creation. While a word may be new, what is behind the word never is.
Trans nonbinary, mentally ill Quaker here :) I'm excited to see you going in great depth about the P.U.F. whom I've been excited about recently
JESSICA! Please do a video on Victoria Hall! ❤️❤️ American/English Spy in WWII, multiple missions into France, had a huge heart for the people. She was considered “The most dangerous of all Allied spies” by the gestapo. I fell in love with her reading the book A Woman of No Importance by Sonia Purnell
You could be a teacher and or professor Jessica! Your ability to explain things is amazing. 😘
That public service announcement at the beginning though 👌
This was fascinating! I have lived near both Cumberland RI and upstate NY and never heard of the Friend until just now. Thank you for your research!
What an interesting person! I saw the Friend's story on Twitter last week and wanted to know more, so thank you for this profile. It's always hard determining if people would fall into our current understanding of different genders, but I admire the Friend's rejection of gendered pronouns and wish I could do the same in my life :)
i feel seen, supported and loved time to cry
I had never heard of the Public Universal Friend! I'm disappointed in myself for not knowing about them, both a person studying religion, gender and sexuality, and as a queer person from Rhode Island. Also in watching this video, when you called Cumberland a Baptist town (which at the time was true) I almost burst out laughing, because currently RI is very Catholic. Yet, RI also has a unique religious history, with the oldest synagogue in North America and the history of Roger Williams, the founder of RI, advocating for some form of religious freedom. I absolutely adore your historical profiles, they are funny and researched and nuanced 💖💖💖
Thank you Jessica. I had not heard of the Public Universal Friend prior to watching your video. I am grateful to you for presenting this in such an easy to understand manner. I always appreciate being educated on people and events in history I was previously unaware of. I found this quite fascinating, and rather timely considering our current social climate. Like you, I hope this sparks meaningful dialogue, a heightened awareness of history, and a better sense of who we are as human beings. This video was captivating, informative ... with a touch of the usual 'Jessica' flair and whimsy.
Again, thank you so much. Take care!!
Lovely as always 👍🤟💝
Wow this video is perfect for today, when JK Rowling has decided to yet again confirm that she is a terf and the worst.
"Another person identity does not invalidate your own and that you don't have the right to invalidate theirs" a beautiful message, thank you
You should do a historical profile on Rosemary Kennedy
Ellie McKissick Yes!
I agree.
I used to work at St Coletta where she lived.
Hope Grace whoa that’s crazy!
I don't like people watching me eat either. That's incredible relatable.
Your historical profiles are always so fascinating, Jessica! Thank you for this video!
i had no previous knowledge about the friend but this was really interesting and well-presented!
I wonder why I've never heard about this before... 😕
it's so interesting!
I love these videos so much. I'm a Conservative Jew, and I'm also bisexual. Someday, I hope to get married to a Jew and have children. However, I always imagine that future with a man, because I don't know any non-straight adults who are religious! I hope that if I marry a woman, I won't be afraid to love her and also love my religion.
I probably know more about Quaker history than the average non-Quaker, but I'd not heard of this individual before. A fascinating bit of history, thank you for sharing!
Fascinating. Beautifully put!! It's 46 degrees Celcius here in Adelaide [Australia] today, so that's all I've got. Except that I ,too, hope that the comments remain respectful. Hugs, Alison. [In the UK today is yesterday, here].
My comment regarding timeline was incorrect. [Whatever day it is in the GMT, it's often tomorrow here. ie. Friday-GMT=Saturday, Adelaide, Australia]. Feel free to be bored by this comment!
O, I am so happy the shirt will still be for sale way after Christmas. Thank you!
The Public Universal Friend is fascinating! Thank you for summarising their life and giving such insight. Much appreciated! :)
I'd never heard of this person before and found the story fascinating. Thank you
If you want to cover Native American people, may I suggest Kateri or Osh-Tish?
Hello Jessica,
Yay! More history lessons. Nope, never heard of The Friend. Sounds like a lovely person. As you were talking, I was making points in my mind, but you addressed all of them. Too bad about the celibacy destroying the group. Just like the Shakers. Gotta keep bringing in new celibate ppl to stick around.
Much love!
I LOVE this, so informative!! Thank you for making fun, entertaining, and educational content that supports the personhood and worth of every human.