Though I could not understand the language I could follow the substance .The chanting's are highly devotional and create a heavenly atmosphere like the angels praising God . It is almost similar to the Antiokian (west Syriac) Mass .There are no musical instruments or any other artificial things . I really enjoyed.Christianity is unity in diversity
ruclips.net/video/H8HL3Th6nfI/видео.html&feature=share This a traditional west syriac maronite mass from 1959 in liturgic Syriac Aramaic and official Arabic.
This is the mass that I attended as a young boy with my beloved father....it brings back a flood of wonderful spiritual memories!!!! I discovered your mass on father's day. I know my father directed me to your church. May God bless you now and forever! Yours in Christ, Peter Krewko
This church is from Toronto ! I love the Ukrainian singing !!! We used to attend small church in Dufrost, and lunch after !! And babas and gedas St. Andrews church in Winnipeg on Euclid St walking distance from 43 Meade St. Just 1 block from grandparents !! Many times we would go, such a precious time , alternating from St. Pierre church many times ! Many times we had Ukrainian dinner and their friends , many names I remembered - too numerous to say ! It was part of my first 17 years I attended and my other siblings also !!
I'm sorry, but you are mistaken. This church is located in Jenkintown, Pennsylvania, near Philadelphia. I'm glad that it brought you happy memories though. Best wishes to you and your family.
Even though what +bitterclinger100 might have been the replica of the Shroud of Turin, there is also a miniature icon of our Lord being taken down from the cross called the antimension. This cloth is signed and dated by the Bishop who consecrated the church and has relics sewn into it. It is on this cloth where the gifts of bread and wine are consecrated into the body and blood of our Lord, God and Saviour Jesus Christ during the Divine Liturgy.
In the Ukrainian Catholic Church, "Mass" is not the correct term. "Mass" pertains to the liturgy of the Roman Catholic Church, and is derived from the Latin phrase near the end "Ite, missa est," which means, "Go, you are dismissed." The Ukrainian Catholic Church celebrates the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom.
In the Catholic Church there are 2 ways of calling religious services (Mass) for the Latin or Western Roman rite and divine liturgy for the Eastern Catholic churches, both are valid in their respective territories according to the doctrine approved by the church and the Pope
oh the Pope!!! oh that Pope! again and again!!! i learned never to argue with a Roman Catholic or a Ukrainian nationalist because you can never use true historical facts with them.. that goes for LIBERALS,PROGRESSIVES, MSM,MLM,CNN,and all of those HOLLYWOOD TYPES.. Thank you Obama and George Soros for making this world a living hell... and Shame on the new Pope for kissing Islam's Evil Ass,Duba,Zhopa ! How much is the jew who hates jews 'Soros' paying you? and why NOW can married priests be allowed in some of Byzantine Catholic churches in the USA when it was forbidden over 100 years ago? STOP KILLING YOUR BROTHER CHRISTIANS IN THE EASTERN UKRAINE! NOVORUSSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE CRIMEA WAS NEVER THE UKRAINE! STOP LYING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We call him "Vicar of Christ" because "vicar" means "substitute". If you live vicariously through something or someone, they are the substitute for your actual participation. Likewise, any cleric who is a vicar is a substitute, for a superior bishop or priest.
Is this one of the abbreviated Divine Liturgies? I have recently become interested in Eastern Catholicism. So I know of the different versions, but not how or when they are used instead of the Divine Liturgy of Saint John Chrysostom. Please forgive my ignorance.
It is, I believe, the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom. I am Ukrainian Orthodox, and we use the Ukrainian language Chrysostom Liturgy as well. When I attend Ukrainian Greek-Catholic churches such as the one here, the Chrysostom liturgy does seem to run a bit shorter than that used in the Orthodox Church, but the substance of the service is there. The Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom is used every Sunday and holy day by Eastern Christian churches, with a handful of exceptions when the longer St. James or St. Basil liturgy are used. But odds are extremely high that whenever you attend or see a liturgy in a Ukrainian Catholic church, or in any Orthodox church, it will be the Liturgy of Chrysostom.
I am Greek Orthodox. It's basically the liturgy of St John Chrysostom with abbreviated liturgies . I always find the Greek Catholic Ukrainian liturgy especially moving and the singing which is the original ruthenian plain chant that was lost in the Ukrainian Orthodox church that uses the beautiful but 17th century polish influenced polyphony.
This brings tears to my eyes I was born in a Byzantine Ukrainian Church 67 years ago the Eastern church does not change thank God слава богу на віки тобі
I want to leave the Latin rite and become part of the Byzantine rite. What do I have to do for that? I'm extremely disappointed in the Roman heirarchy. It seems to me like there is much more holiness in the Byzantine churches. There is a Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church in my city.
You simply start attending a Byzantine Catholic Church.I've been attending St. Thomas the Apostle Byzantine Catholic Church in Arizona since 2004.Just go to that Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church and then become a registered parishoner.
You don’t have to do anything at all except go and be part of the congregation. Ukrainian Catholics are just as much part of the Catholic Church as Italians, Poles, etc and you can participate fully, including taking communion. You’ll find that different, as you get a tiny cube of bread soaked in wine tipped into your mouth.
@@richardsellsaz6865 Actually changing rites is a little more complicated. The priest can help you with that. The Byzantine Bishop petitions to bring you into the Byzantine Rite and then the Latin Bishop releases you. Usually a person attends the church of the rite that he wants to be in for a couple of years before he petitions. After the petition is granted, a notation is made on the baptismal certificate of the parish where you are baptized. But you can just register at any church of any rite that you want. You might have to come back to your own rite to get married, be ordained as a priest or have a baby baptized, but that's all. Continue to follow the holy day schedule and the fasting regulations of the rite you belong to, not the rite of the parish that you are registered in.
Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary is the church that I would attend. Is it as simple as going to Divine Liturgy at that church, or is there some formal process I have to follow?
@@richardsellsaz6865 What are the differences in going to confession between the Roman and Byzantine rites? Confession is the first thing I'm going to want to do, because I've been wandering in the wilderness for a while.
Are there differences in going to confession between the Roman and Byzantine rites? Confession is the first thing I want to do. I apologize if I'm asking too many questions.
@@richardsellsaz6865 And what about offering intentions? Can you offer a divine liturgy for someone's sake? Does it have to be a deceased person, or can it be a living person? Or do you just have to offer private intentions during the liturgy? I guess my apology about asking too many questions was preemtive.
@@lord_kinbote3920 There is usually no divider between the penitent and priest in the Byzantine and Eastern Rites.I actually go to confession at a Latin Mass Church since it is nearby me on Saturdays.Call the closest Byzantine Church or look up their website and just go from there.
This certainly is quite a traditional Divine Liturgy for sure. Just sad that the better Divine Liturgies are in Ukrainian language. English-language DLs can tend to be a bit mleh. Usually recited, and use no incense. If only reading Cyrillic wasn't a headache, and learning conversational Ukrainian to understand the Homily, Epistle, and Gospel would also have been useful. Seems that I'd better see if Rosetta Stone'll be of any help. :)
It is not likely Rosetta can help you much, they only have Russian, not Ukrainian, sadly. My mother, having been born in Russia, taught this to me as a kid. I married a Ukrainian lady in 1991, and she too spoke Russian at the time. Ukrainian was just not being taught then due to Soviet rules. NOW we have 19 daughters who have been taught in English and Ukrainian in their school in Crimea, and NOT in Russian..makes life rather complicated. I never learned the Ukrainian church as my mum was Russian, and Orthodox, not Roman Catholic.
Robin Alan Fuller Agreed. I'm getting somewhat better with Liturgical Ukrainian day by day. Still stuck in "Ruthenian Slavonic" mode myself, and still too used to Prostopinije Chant (being a parishioner of a Ruthenian Cathedral). However, with a Ukrainian Cathedral a mile away from us, I find myself wishing I'd learn just as much with Festal Galician Chant and modern Ukrainian along with it. Nice that two Cathedrals with very similar traditions are that close together. Also, nice that the Ukrainian Cathedral is due to receive a new bishop in November, too...should be nice.
Some parishes use English more than others. The Ruthenian and Melkite Rites are more into English than the Ukrainian Rite. My parish, Saint Nicholas in Danbury Connecticut only uses English. It is Ruthenian. Forget Rosetta, the traditional languages are archaic forms, not contemporary usage.
Uniatism an excellent example of politics trumping faith I invite all Catholics especially in like of the recent moto prpouo to come home to Holy Orthodoxy.
You again? Are you seriously going around on every Christian video you can find posting a bunch of random out of context one sentence verses out of the whole book of the bible? What is this verse relevant to? Honestly dude, get a life.
VinylToVideo It's a pattern of behavior that I can't understand. Those who are militant atheists make the purpose of their lives bashing God, belief in God, those who believe in God, etc. They spend their time thinking about how to refute the claims of the existence of a being who, to them (supposedly) is no more real than the tooth fairy or Santa Claus. How ridiculous is that? If you don't believe, then fine. Feel free to tell people trying to convert you that you're not interested. But engaging in the above behavior is a sign of, at the least, a deep-seated insecurity. I have my beliefs, but I'm probably not going to convince anyone else based on mean-spirited RUclips comments. This is about ridiculing and shaming people who disagree, and also getting to feel like a little snowflake because you think that those who believe are stupid. So it's clearly not about "raising awareness". It's about pride. What I dion't understand is that this guy ^^ is not stupid. He and his brother are actually famous (at least Internet famous) and have posted a video that poses legitimate questions (ruclips.net/video/xUuBTymiV8Q/видео.html) about God. The kind of dialogue that could result from that is much more productive than being hateful.
VinylToVideo Yesterday I posted the above comment, and while I stand by what I think about truly militant atheists, I don't know that I think this guy fits that model. My guess is that he's an agnostic who may well be searching for truth. It's pretty easy to misunderstand the Bible. Some of the original Christians even thought that the God of the Hebrew Bible was not the same one as Jesus was talking about due to the sometimes harsh treatment that were called for against the enemies of the Israelites or transgressors in their own community. Also, some of the statements in Leviticus are particularly hard to believe - such as the apparent death penalty for teenagers who disrespect parents, etc. Many Christian scholars today, often with the assistance of Jewish Torah commentaries, understand that many of these prescriptions were not so literal, but were intended to show the level of God's displeasure with certain activities. The oral Torah, much of which was later written in the Talmud and Mishnah, explains that (for instance) God did not actually intend for parents to kill their own disrespectful children, but that such behavior was so intolerable in the eyes of God (as well all know, children were called to honor their parents) that this phrasing was a way to convey that. Indeed, I recall reading that this was so well understood in ancient times that such punishments were never actually used. Apart from this clarification, it would easy to assume that ancient Israelites actually did all of these things, but this is apparently not the case. At any rate - didn't intend to write a book here - maybe Keith Hodge simply has a hard time reconciling what seems to be a cruel God with what Christians know as a loving God. As a Christian, I always have to watch myself and try not to judge others. Jesus said that if we do not judge, we will not be judged. I think that's a pretty strong case for giving people the benefit of the doubt about intentions when they're not absolutely clear. We should always see ourselves, as St. Paul did, as the "chief of all sinners" and not be too hard on those who perhaps haven't been taught correctly or have not been given the gift of faith. God meets us where we are, so we should try to do the same to others.
MaxKol That makes sense. VinylToVideo After doing some searching, I don't think that Keith Hodge is the real Keith Hodge (that's internet famous). I watched some of their videos and I don't think that he would bother trolling Christians; he was brought up Baptist, though he may not be religious now.
@@angelagabriel5874 This liturgy was offered by Catholic Church of Ukraine, which is byzantine rited, but fully catholic. Being catholic, It is then orthodox by definition, not in eclesiastical way, this church is not part of the churches alined with Constantinople. Then, this is Catholic, then It is also orthodox by definition
The denominations I formerly studied are divided into three main categories. Catholic, Orthodox and Protestant. Catholicism belongs to the Pope, and Orthodoxy belongs to each diocese. However, I studied that Bulgaria, Ukraine, or any of the Orthodox churches are recognized by the Pope, that is, they are both Orthodox and Catholic too. So I thought of the previous answer. And I love the Liturgy of the Slavic Church or Gregorian chant. Of course their are better Дмитро Бортнянського.
@@angelagabriel5874 This liturgy is from a church that belongs to the Pope. Catholic Church is One church formed by 24 autocephalous churches that are organized by papal primacy, but most of them self govern, some not, and 7 of that churches are patriarchal, catholic have 7 patriarchs The orthodox church belongs to a patriarch or archbishop, of an autocephalous church, in the way you say, every catholic belongs to each diocese too. Catholic Church considers itself as orthodox un the definition, but is not in communion with greek churches, but recognized authentic bishop succesion. Greek orthodox church considers itself as catholic as universal meaning but is not in communion with Catholic Church, and I dont know if they recognize catholic bishops, but all I saw is hate, blasphemy, blame, insults and even considers we as the worst, even than pagans. I dont know if all them are that fanatics, however this liturgy is from a papal church
Beautiful! Especially the chanting! I love the Byzantine Liturgy.
Though I could not understand the language I could follow the substance .The chanting's are highly devotional and create a heavenly atmosphere like the angels praising God . It is almost similar to the Antiokian (west Syriac) Mass .There are no musical instruments or any other artificial things . I really enjoyed.Christianity is unity in diversity
ruclips.net/video/H8HL3Th6nfI/видео.html&feature=share
This a traditional west syriac maronite mass from 1959 in liturgic Syriac Aramaic and official Arabic.
This is the mass that I attended as a young boy with my beloved father....it brings back a flood of wonderful spiritual memories!!!! I discovered your mass on father's day. I know my father directed me to your church. May God bless you now and forever! Yours in Christ, Peter Krewko
This church is from Toronto ! I love the Ukrainian singing !!! We used to attend small church in Dufrost, and lunch after !! And babas and gedas St. Andrews church in Winnipeg on Euclid St walking distance from 43 Meade St. Just 1 block from grandparents !! Many times we would go, such a precious time , alternating from St. Pierre church many times ! Many times we had Ukrainian dinner and their friends , many names I remembered - too numerous to say ! It was part of my first 17 years I attended and my other siblings also !!
I'm sorry, but you are mistaken. This church is located in Jenkintown, Pennsylvania, near Philadelphia. I'm glad that it brought you happy memories though. Best wishes to you and your family.
Thank you for posting this. It is a comfort during lockdown.
I'm going to my first Ukrainian mass today. I can't wait! Just watching this to prepare.
Beautiful!
What a magnificent church! It's always wonderful to find the Byzantine Liturgy celebrated beautifully...
Dig the altar cloth. It depicts the Shroud of Turin. Too Cool!
It's not the altar cloth though.
I thimk that IS the Shroud of Turin
Sorry but what a cheap way to refer to what is Holy . Do you not think so ?
💓🌷Дякую Господу Богу і Матінці Божій за все 🌷💓
Христос воскрес! Воістину воскрес!
Слава Ісую Христу ! Дуже гарно співає Хор ! Гарні голоси !!!
Олег Маґдзяк Oleg Magdziak Слава на віки
This Irish-American guy has been attending the Ukrainian Liturgy so long that I even understood what you wrote!
The altar top has a replica of the Holy Shroud.
Great observation... :)
That's not the altar. The Altar's inside, beyond the doors.
Even though what +bitterclinger100 might have been the replica of the Shroud of Turin, there is also a miniature icon of our Lord being taken down from the cross called the antimension. This cloth is signed and dated by the Bishop who consecrated the church and has relics sewn into it. It is on this cloth where the gifts of bread and wine are consecrated into the body and blood of our Lord, God and Saviour Jesus Christ during the Divine Liturgy.
Yes that's not the altar, the altar is behind the doors
@@hectordanielsanchezcobo7713 Of course, you're right. Thanks for clarifying that. I knew that but I wasn't thinking when I wrote that.
I'm a Roman Catholic watching this
In the Ukrainian Catholic Church, "Mass" is not the correct term. "Mass" pertains to the liturgy of the Roman Catholic Church, and is derived from the Latin phrase near the end "Ite, missa est," which means, "Go, you are dismissed." The Ukrainian Catholic Church celebrates the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom.
+tjb70 I'm a filthy Schismatic papist and proud! But not the head, Jesus is the head of our Church. The Pope would be considered a representative.
tjb70 The two liturgies are different, and they have different names.
In the Catholic Church there are 2 ways of calling religious services (Mass) for the Latin or Western Roman rite and divine liturgy for the Eastern Catholic churches, both are valid in their respective territories according to the doctrine approved by the church and the Pope
oh the Pope!!! oh that Pope! again and again!!! i learned never to argue with a Roman Catholic or a Ukrainian nationalist because you can never use true historical facts with them.. that goes for LIBERALS,PROGRESSIVES, MSM,MLM,CNN,and all of those HOLLYWOOD TYPES..
Thank you Obama and George Soros for making this world a living hell... and Shame on the new Pope for kissing Islam's Evil Ass,Duba,Zhopa ! How much is the jew who hates jews 'Soros' paying you? and why NOW can married priests be allowed in some of Byzantine Catholic churches in the USA when it was forbidden over 100 years ago? STOP KILLING YOUR BROTHER CHRISTIANS IN THE EASTERN UKRAINE! NOVORUSSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE CRIMEA WAS NEVER THE UKRAINE! STOP LYING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We call him "Vicar of Christ" because "vicar" means "substitute". If you live vicariously through something or someone, they are the substitute for your actual participation. Likewise, any cleric who is a vicar is a substitute, for a superior bishop or priest.
There's a bird in the church. It keeps flying around. I haven't heard that Ishe kheruvimy for years.
Я хотів би зрозуміти цю літургію. Це красиво.
Is this one of the abbreviated Divine Liturgies? I have recently become interested in Eastern Catholicism. So I know of the different versions, but not how or when they are used instead of the Divine Liturgy of Saint John Chrysostom. Please forgive my ignorance.
It is, I believe, the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom. I am Ukrainian Orthodox, and we use the Ukrainian language Chrysostom Liturgy as well. When I attend Ukrainian Greek-Catholic churches such as the one here, the Chrysostom liturgy does seem to run a bit shorter than that used in the Orthodox Church, but the substance of the service is there. The Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom is used every Sunday and holy day by Eastern Christian churches, with a handful of exceptions when the longer St. James or St. Basil liturgy are used. But odds are extremely high that whenever you attend or see a liturgy in a Ukrainian Catholic church, or in any Orthodox church, it will be the Liturgy of Chrysostom.
I am Greek Orthodox. It's basically the liturgy of St John Chrysostom with abbreviated liturgies . I always find the Greek Catholic Ukrainian liturgy especially moving and the singing which is the original ruthenian plain chant that was lost in the Ukrainian Orthodox church that uses the beautiful but 17th century polish influenced polyphony.
It's called the Divine Liturgy not The Mass. The Mass is the liturgical Eucharistic rites of the Western Churches.
I don't know what you're singing, but it's beautiful music
Save me lord
thank you ! i love this Church- I visited many years ago with the St Anne's choir
This brings tears to my eyes I was born in a Byzantine Ukrainian Church 67 years ago the Eastern church does not change thank God слава богу на віки тобі
Deliver me from evil mother evil medical evil goes back justice amen 🙏 🙌 👏 ❤️ 👍 😔
Offer up my suffering to the churches relief 😌 🙏 😪 🤧 🙃
A similar church service as St. Andrews Church
No men heal all my trapped gas ....cures relief...cures supernatural cures miracles ...I get who I want chaka amen
Amen 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙌 blessings
l have been to the ukrainian catholic church in wolverhampton england
it was the litiurgy of st john of chrysostom
I want to leave the Latin rite and become part of the Byzantine rite. What do I have to do for that? I'm extremely disappointed in the Roman heirarchy. It seems to me like there is much more holiness in the Byzantine churches. There is a Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church in my city.
You simply start attending a Byzantine Catholic Church.I've been attending St. Thomas the Apostle Byzantine Catholic Church in Arizona since 2004.Just go to that Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church and then become a registered parishoner.
@@richardsellsaz6865 Any Catholic can go every Sunday to any rite. But you should go to communion once a year in your own rite.
You don’t have to do anything at all except go and be part of the congregation. Ukrainian Catholics are just as much part of the Catholic Church as Italians, Poles, etc and you can participate fully, including taking communion. You’ll find that different, as you get a tiny cube of bread soaked in wine tipped into your mouth.
@@richardsellsaz6865 Actually changing rites is a little more complicated. The priest can help you with that. The Byzantine Bishop petitions to bring you into the Byzantine Rite and then the Latin Bishop releases you. Usually a person attends the church of the rite that he wants to be in for a couple of years before he petitions. After the petition is granted, a notation is made on the baptismal certificate of the parish where you are baptized. But you can just register at any church of any rite that you want. You might have to come back to your own rite to get married, be ordained as a priest or have a baby baptized, but that's all. Continue to follow the holy day schedule and the fasting regulations of the rite you belong to, not the rite of the parish that you are registered in.
Douglas Livingstone Lol you’re wrong dude. Nobody has to “receive communion once a year in their own rite”.
Is that the actual Shroud of Turin???
No, this is not the Shroud of Turin.
Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary is the church that I would attend. Is it as simple as going to Divine Liturgy at that church, or is there some formal process I have to follow?
NO formal process. at all.Just go there on Sunday and start attending.A Catholic can attend and receive communion at ALL Catholic Rites.
@@richardsellsaz6865 What are the differences in going to confession between the Roman and Byzantine rites? Confession is the first thing I'm going to want to do, because I've been wandering in the wilderness for a while.
Are there differences in going to confession between the Roman and Byzantine rites? Confession is the first thing I want to do. I apologize if I'm asking too many questions.
@@richardsellsaz6865 And what about offering intentions? Can you offer a divine liturgy for someone's sake? Does it have to be a deceased person, or can it be a living person? Or do you just have to offer private intentions during the liturgy? I guess my apology about asking too many questions was preemtive.
@@lord_kinbote3920 There is usually no divider between the penitent and priest in the Byzantine and Eastern Rites.I actually go to confession at a Latin Mass Church since it is nearby me on Saturdays.Call the closest Byzantine Church or look up their website and just go from there.
Can a latin priest celebrate this rite liturgy?
He could concelebrate it with a Byzantine priest, but in order to celebrate it on his own he would need to obtain biritual faculties from Rome.
🙏🏻❤️✝️🌹
So very beautiful.
What is the first hymn sung
в страсі і покорі (v strasi i pokori) - We are gathered here to worship
Cherubikon at 38:50
The voice of a priest is not clear.
12:08
Is that the real shroud of Turin or a copy ?????
It's a replica
Thanks for your response my friend !
Copy of course but it's as an icon.
God bless you
777
This certainly is quite a traditional Divine Liturgy for sure. Just sad that the better Divine Liturgies are in Ukrainian language. English-language DLs can tend to be a bit mleh. Usually recited, and use no incense. If only reading Cyrillic wasn't a headache, and learning conversational Ukrainian to understand the Homily, Epistle, and Gospel would also have been useful. Seems that I'd better see if Rosetta Stone'll be of any help. :)
It is not likely Rosetta can help you much, they only have Russian, not Ukrainian, sadly. My mother, having been born in Russia, taught this to me as a kid. I married a Ukrainian lady in 1991, and she too spoke Russian at the time. Ukrainian was just not being taught then due to Soviet rules. NOW we have 19 daughters who have been taught in English and Ukrainian in their school in Crimea, and NOT in Russian..makes life rather complicated. I never learned the Ukrainian church as my mum was Russian, and Orthodox, not Roman Catholic.
Robin Alan Fuller Agreed. I'm getting somewhat better with Liturgical Ukrainian day by day. Still stuck in "Ruthenian Slavonic" mode myself, and still too used to Prostopinije Chant (being a parishioner of a Ruthenian Cathedral). However, with a Ukrainian Cathedral a mile away from us, I find myself wishing I'd learn just as much with Festal Galician Chant and modern Ukrainian along with it. Nice that two Cathedrals with very similar traditions are that close together. Also, nice that the Ukrainian Cathedral is due to receive a new bishop in November, too...should be nice.
Robin Alan Fuller Your English is perfect.
Get a Ukrainian Girlfriend. Just hold on tight while you learn.
Some parishes use English more than others. The Ruthenian and Melkite Rites are more into English than the Ukrainian Rite. My parish, Saint Nicholas in Danbury Connecticut only uses English. It is Ruthenian. Forget Rosetta, the traditional languages are archaic forms, not contemporary usage.
Uniatism an excellent example of politics trumping faith I invite all Catholics especially in like of the recent moto prpouo to come home to Holy Orthodoxy.
nah
Nop ❤️🔥🇻🇦
Jeremiah 14:11
"So the LORD said to me, 'Do not pray for the welfare of this people.'"
What a loving God!!!
You again? Are you seriously going around on every Christian video you can find posting a bunch of random out of context one sentence verses out of the whole book of the bible? What is this verse relevant to? Honestly dude, get a life.
VinylToVideo It's a pattern of behavior that I can't understand. Those who are militant atheists make the purpose of their lives bashing God, belief in God, those who believe in God, etc. They spend their time thinking about how to refute the claims of the existence of a being who, to them (supposedly) is no more real than the tooth fairy or Santa Claus. How ridiculous is that? If you don't believe, then fine. Feel free to tell people trying to convert you that you're not interested. But engaging in the above behavior is a sign of, at the least, a deep-seated insecurity. I have my beliefs, but I'm probably not going to convince anyone else based on mean-spirited RUclips comments. This is about ridiculing and shaming people who disagree, and also getting to feel like a little snowflake because you think that those who believe are stupid. So it's clearly not about "raising awareness". It's about pride. What I dion't understand is that this guy ^^ is not stupid. He and his brother are actually famous (at least Internet famous) and have posted a video that poses legitimate questions (ruclips.net/video/xUuBTymiV8Q/видео.html) about God. The kind of dialogue that could result from that is much more productive than being hateful.
VinylToVideo Yesterday I posted the above comment, and while I stand by what I think about truly militant atheists, I don't know that I think this guy fits that model. My guess is that he's an agnostic who may well be searching for truth. It's pretty easy to misunderstand the Bible. Some of the original Christians even thought that the God of the Hebrew Bible was not the same one as Jesus was talking about due to the sometimes harsh treatment that were called for against the enemies of the Israelites or transgressors in their own community. Also, some of the statements in Leviticus are particularly hard to believe - such as the apparent death penalty for teenagers who disrespect parents, etc. Many Christian scholars today, often with the assistance of Jewish Torah commentaries, understand that many of these prescriptions were not so literal, but were intended to show the level of God's displeasure with certain activities. The oral Torah, much of which was later written in the Talmud and Mishnah, explains that (for instance) God did not actually intend for parents to kill their own disrespectful children, but that such behavior was so intolerable in the eyes of God (as well all know, children were called to honor their parents) that this phrasing was a way to convey that. Indeed, I recall reading that this was so well understood in ancient times that such punishments were never actually used. Apart from this clarification, it would easy to assume that ancient Israelites actually did all of these things, but this is apparently not the case. At any rate - didn't intend to write a book here - maybe Keith Hodge simply has a hard time reconciling what seems to be a cruel God with what Christians know as a loving God. As a Christian, I always have to watch myself and try not to judge others. Jesus said that if we do not judge, we will not be judged. I think that's a pretty strong case for giving people the benefit of the doubt about intentions when they're not absolutely clear. We should always see ourselves, as St. Paul did, as the "chief of all sinners" and not be too hard on those who perhaps haven't been taught correctly or have not been given the gift of faith. God meets us where we are, so we should try to do the same to others.
***** It stems from self-loathing. They hate themselves and they hate anything right, good, or beautiful.
MaxKol That makes sense. VinylToVideo After doing some searching, I don't think that Keith Hodge is the real Keith Hodge (that's internet famous). I watched some of their videos and I don't think that he would bother trolling Christians; he was brought up Baptist, though he may not be religious now.
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Just
Cathoric...??? Orthodox !
Are both the same thing, not the greek churches
Ah, it is Orthodox Cathoric church, isn't it?
@@angelagabriel5874 This liturgy was offered by Catholic Church of Ukraine, which is byzantine rited, but fully catholic. Being catholic, It is then orthodox by definition, not in eclesiastical way, this church is not part of the churches alined with Constantinople.
Then, this is Catholic, then It is also orthodox by definition
The denominations I formerly studied are divided into three main categories. Catholic, Orthodox and Protestant.
Catholicism belongs to the Pope, and Orthodoxy belongs to each diocese.
However, I studied that Bulgaria, Ukraine, or any of the Orthodox churches are recognized by the Pope,
that is, they are both Orthodox and Catholic too.
So I thought of the previous answer.
And I love the Liturgy of the Slavic Church or Gregorian chant.
Of course their are better Дмитро Бортнянського.
@@angelagabriel5874 This liturgy is from a church that belongs to the Pope.
Catholic Church is One church formed by 24 autocephalous churches that are organized by papal primacy, but most of them self govern, some not, and 7 of that churches are patriarchal, catholic have 7 patriarchs
The orthodox church belongs to a patriarch or archbishop, of an autocephalous church, in the way you say, every catholic belongs to each diocese too.
Catholic Church considers itself as orthodox un the definition, but is not in communion with greek churches, but recognized authentic bishop succesion.
Greek orthodox church considers itself as catholic as universal meaning but is not in communion with Catholic Church, and I dont know if they recognize catholic bishops, but all I saw is hate, blasphemy, blame, insults and even considers we as the worst, even than pagans. I dont know if all them are that fanatics, however this liturgy is from a papal church