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Forgive Like Christ | Fr. Gregory Pine, O.P.
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- Опубликовано: 18 авг 2024
- Fr. Pine talks about the theology of forgiveness then gives some practical steps we cant take to be better at forgiving.
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Fr. Pine, O.P. is the man.
I was literally just praying about this before I went to bed and this is the first thing I saw in my feed when waking up. I'm struggling with forgiveness and the anger associated with it due to a lifelong friendship being disintegrated over nothing. Massively appreciate your work, Matt.
Been there, done that, bought the t-shirt. You have my sympathy because I know how hard it is when that happens.
Thanks again Father Pine, always appreciate your good counsel, this has to be the toughest thing we have to do, especially when the hurt was deliberate. I have struggled with it for many years, thanks for the encouragement and practical advice,too! God bless you, you are in my prayers always!
I was abused by a family member from the age of 2-12. This was in God’s permissive will & He will bring a greater good out of it. I cling to this belief because I have faith & trust in God. It was hard to come to but has released a wave of forgiveness for the perpetrator & those who failed to protect me, which then led to tremendous healing within myself. I’m old now & everyone involved has passed away. I sincerely pray I will be able to glorify God together with them in heaven & pray the Divine Mercy chaplet for their souls everyday. The grace of God at work.
Thank you for this, beautifully said!!
Wow, may God bless you deeply. That's some power to do right there
@@user-ur4rg5ph3x Not mine but His power. Years ago, I finally opened my heart & cried to God because I was so broken & asked Him through Christ to help me forgive the evil perpetrated against me. He did it all; I was helpless to do it.
Wow you’re incredibly strong, thanks for sharing 🙏 God bless and I hope you may be healed by Christ, Amen
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I’ve struggled with understanding forgiveness for years. This was the most helpful thing ever. Thank God for this.
Thank you! I am Protestant and this was excellent. I wrote the prayer down so I can use it in my devotions. A lot of Protestants will squirm at a pre-set prayer BUT these are so helpful for starting out and then listening to the Holy Spirit to direct your prayer. There are even books being written about prayers and certain topics in the Protestant world so it seems the Catholics were right all along lol!!
I am praying for the Catholic Church to rise up and become a beacon of light to the world!
John 17 20-23
“My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, 21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. 22 I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one- 23 I in them and you in me-so that they may be brought to complete unity. Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me."
AMEN!!
So helpful. Thank you, father.
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING!
Thank you!
Excellent.
Thank you.
No holds barred -here is the most substantive treatment of forgiveness I have ever heard. Kudos, Fr. Gregory! This episode should be circulated amongst friends and bookmarked or downloaded to reorient ourselves every day and as needed.
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Thank you for this video. It helped me a lot. One thing I try to remind myself about my enemies, or those who have simply hurt me, is that they too are loved by God completely. I try to love them the same way, as much as I am capable. It also facilitates my ability to forgive. Your explanation of willing them to love the Lord in this life and the next was so helpful - what an incredibly generous way to see others, and a good way to help us forgive.
Straight to my favs
God I know no matter my struggle, I can turn to you. God please continue to give me strength to overcome my fears. I want to give up and quit because I’m overwhelmed. But I keep faith even as I constantly struggle to take care of my children. My husband died years ago. At times I feel so alone. I’m a single mom. I suffered an heart attack a year ago and I’m battling lupus. Both of my sons are autistic. I’m constantly struggling to buy groceries. Struggling to pay rent. Struggling to buy my children’s school supplies. I don’t know how I’m going to get through it but thankfully I have you Lord! I know you will provide. Faith over fear! Praise God and his son Yeshua!
Praying for you.
God bless you 🙏 ❤
Hi this is very practical, and not something that is covered in prayer groups or even Catholic School..Thank you.
One great part of this video was having things broken down by the different aspects of the person: spiritual/physical/emotional/etc. Having a more concrete idea of where/how hurts exist in each of those places helps give some order to what seems like a whirlwind of chaos. It’s easier to take steps toward healing and forgiving when progress can be measured in each area of being human. When they all get bound up together and experienced simultaneously, it’s an intense place to be and difficult to navigate. Laying out explanations and practicals so distinctly for the dimensions of our humanity is just so good. Thank you.
This, without doubt, is my greatest failing. Whereas I am capable of dismissing slights, and even intentional harm caused by others, with relative ease, forgiving those who have wounded me deeply -those whom I told directly what would cause me the greatest pain, and did they that anyway, I cannot seem to forgive.
I am to wish what is best for them? … That will clearly take time. At this point, I wish perhaps the MOST blasphemous things upon them. This, I am well aware, is the Sin, of my pride speaking … much like continually taking poison, in hopes that it will affect THEM.
My name is Chad. Please pray for my wholly unworthy soul.
Look, God doesn’t forgive if one isn’t sorry, won’t repair the damage and won’t promise to be better so no wonder if you can’t forgive people who hurt you…
If God has his conditions for forgiveness, so should you
You know what I appreciate about Father Pine? I don’t have to speed up his videos haha. I can leave them at 1x because his cadence is 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
I needed this video badly. Thank you father pine!
Thank you Father. Very good, very important!
Thank you, Father Pine. Pax Christi.
Thank u father for a lot of us need to hear and understand what really forgiveness is
Perfect timing, I needed this today.
That was so beautifully explained that it simplified what is a very traumatic and difficult thing to do and It has helped me so much.... thank you and may GOD bless you .
Gilly wife of Mark
For me it was years. I asked for the grace to want to want to forgive daily. Excellent vid Father Pine.
I have experienced great trouble accepting the forgiveness of others and (most importantly) God. I pray that I (and we) may put all love, trust, and faith in the Lord and His forgiveness. Thank you for these videos.
Good evening Fr Gregory,
Forgiveness does not mean forgetting nor does it mean condoning or excusing offenses .
Though forgiveness can help repair damaged relationship
It does not repair a damaged relationship. It does not help you to reconcile with the person who harmed or release them from legal accountability.
I like the way he describes forgiveness and unforgiveness as a switch. I think we tend to think of it as a rocker or flip switch. But it's more of a dimmer switch. Sometimes the brightness goes down, we can turn it back up or down as needed, but the forgiveness should remain and can remain in the "on" position.
It's kind of a long story, and I won't put it down here. But, I was in seminary for 4 years, and there was a bad priest who was in my counsel, and was essentially very manipulative, as well as emotionally, psychologically and spiritually abusive. The external issues of his decisions have been resolved, and he's no longer priest, or involved with that seminary.
But in my wrestling to discern and forgive him, and others who were involved, I realized the anger is like embracing a hot stove pipe - the injustice is the fuel for the fire, the initial frustration and sadness at the injustice is the fire itself, the smoke and heat are the ongoing feeling of anger, sadness or betrayal and the emotions that result from those feelings.
So I realized that, in this image, as often as I choose anger, I turn back and embrace that hot stove pipe. And sometimes you need to, sometimes it needs to burn. For a time it will, it's inevitable. If there was truly an injustice done, anger, sadness, frustration, any and or all of these are natural responses.
But I shouldn't remain there or else I will also burn. What does one do when they are burned? Usually you're hurt, so you turn and run to and cry to someone worthy of trust, maybe that's a parent or or insert other figure here.
Spiritually, that parent of consolation is our Lord on the Cross. The choice to forgive is turning to and receiving that healing embrace. For a time, that may have to be repetitive, as Fr. Gregory here refers to it as a light switch of sorts.
But I do believe, and I'm firmly convinced that eventually that situation can be let go (I suppose, if one were to run with the hot stove analogy, one coule move, and totally leave behind that painful damage and unforgiveness and find a place that's not burning.
I hope this image helps someone!
Excellent guidance. Thank you Father Pine.
Thank you Father❤ this has been my biggest challenge. I was so hurt but now see I needed this
Powerful, especially when we actually do this!!! God thank you for your graces for us to hear this, now grace us to put it into the practice of our lives🙏🙏🙏
This is very helpful, thank you 🙏
Thank you, Fr. Gregory for this. God bless you.
Thank you, that video helps us all. Could you do similiar on the topic of Fear and Anxiety (e.g. dealing with world events, coping with financial difficulty, debts etc)
Just what I needed to hear today. Thank you!
I don't have the financial means to remove myself from someone that's really done bad things to me, (some of which are really high levels of evil) so I have to see them literally everyday and that's my obstacle to forgiving, cause I've no space from them to be able to fully heal... It's almost as if it's impossible to forgive but then I thought that can't be true, so the only solution I've come up with is setting strict boundaries.
Does anyone have any good books on setting boundaries with people you don't trust and want space from? (something that's not opposed to the Catholic faith). Something that respects my right to distance myself from someone that's really crossed the line with me and that I genuinely need space from, to heal. Thanks.
This came at a perfect time. Thanks be to God. Thank you Fr Gregory and the Pints team for this episode, it was useful to a great degree in what is happening in my life currently.
Same
Amen! Thank you
Fr. Gregory Pine!
Prayers for you and your ministry!
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Boom-that is really fast,i have to listen again and again.some is hard to stomach.but im on my way,whait for me Lord 👋
Thank you Father Pine. This is just what I needed to hear today ❤
Saint Maria Goretti, pray for us!
One of the essence of forgiveness is to forget, by moving on the transgressions. But that is difficult to do, especially now that the Internet is forever
I'm praying for the gift of forgetfulness as I'm struggling with forgiving a long time now. I've volitional forgiveness but I can't move on to the full forgiveness yet. 🙏
You don’t necessarily forget. But it’s not necessary for forgiveness. I’ll never forget I was abused as a child. I have forgiven my abusers & pray for their souls everyday.
Thank you Fr Pine.
Very helpful.
Good stuff. What I needed to hear.
Great advice from Patrick bet David: pick your enemies wisely, our family and friends should be easily forgiven
Father, can you give a short talk on here sometime about forgiving oneself? If you have, can you share the link here?
You should write a book about this Fr Pine
Wow I have had sad long term break with my younger brother and can not seem to be able to reconnect, the issue seems to be a disconnect with events and intentions,
I love you, man. You're a super Thomas Aquinas type
Thank You so much Padre ...Have you listened to the youtube vid from Renewal Ministries entitled Healing Through Forgiveness | The Choices We Face (Peter Herbeck & Fr. John Burns ? ... #BeASaintWhatElseIsThere?
Socrates people gotta listen
Let’s not forget Jesus didn’t forgive anyone who didn’t ask for it first!
I once heard a phrase in relation to forgiveness that continually draws me back; “we must join our suffering to Christ’s suffering.” I don’t grasp what it means. I forgive, but I don’t know how to not carry forgiveness like a weight. Do I just become stronger with the resistance training, or is there some way to join it with Christ and not feel its weight? I do not get this concept. What does it mean to join our suffering with Christ’s? I don’t understand this joining, but instinctively I know it is truth. But how? Thoughtful comments are welcome.
Christ was completely without sin and he suffered, agony, embarrassment, loss, torture of the cross and so much more all for our sins. He carried a cross that was not His so that we may accept salvation. Often times when someone hurts us it’s like Fr. Pine said because they sinned against us. We didn’t deserve it. How much more did God not deserve how we all sin against him continuously. That’s why we join Him in suffering. I know I didn’t deserve (this) but God definitely didn’t deserve the life He lived for us. So gladly we look to him to see how we carry our cross (we ultimately deserve), as He carries ours (that he did not deserve in the least).
Someone recently hurt me so bad recently (why I’m watching this video) and said “I don’t know how you could ever forgive me”. I said “because God forgave me.”
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Where are we taught to forgive those who commit serious sin against us and are unrepentant and recalcitrant about it? Is that in Scripture, Tradition or in magisterium? Obviously we should be willing, but unless we are universalists, it seems to me that God doesn't forgive unless we repent so are we asked to forgive others more than God does us?
4 give ❤ is a action word n number . I concur enabling is a issue and or being gaslighted or bullied . It is what it is . make self better start by forgiving it feels good like adrenaline good . Great explanation fake slap lol awesome but cortisol is released that is bad . His explaining it sooo we get it like Allegory
Okay yes but Christ didn't forgive everyone. There was once I complained to a priest about the Tabernacle having been removed from its central position and he told me me next time I complained he'd throw me out.
Father Gregory Pine seems like a good guy, but he has a remarkable ability to use a lot of words to not say much of anything. I never feel like his videos aren't time wasted despite over and over being duped into watching them by the interesting topic.
And if your predator hasn’t sought forgiveness although I would be willing to forgive surely I don’t have to forgive I will that all find their way to heaven even those who are despicable to me and the world Hell is for eternity and I don’t want that not even for the worst of souls. I am not excluding myself here either.
I only forgive people who repent. Just like Christ. Forgiving someone who transgressed against you would be crazy if that person isn't contrite. It kinda makes you a pushover.
I don't think Christ mentioned that we should only forgive those who repent.
@@aci. I'm just following his example.
How do you know the chief priests, the Pharisees, the Roman officials, and the crowd of Jews repented after Christ forgave them all? You are most definitely *not* following Christ's example, you're only following your own personal take on it.
@@stphnklptrk I dont because I'm not God. I would say they have ignorance and Christ took that into account. I'm not God I can only go by what I see and hear. God bless
When did forgiveness become not holding a grudge? I thought forgiveness was something you gave someone who apologized. It wasn't something you could do on your own.
Christ forgave His executioners. That’s our model.🙏❤️
Thanks for helping me out. Our Lord asks the Father to forgive His executioners and yet I take it the eventual destruction of the temple was a kind of judgment. So forgiveness is its own thing and not the same as reconciliation which "takes two."
Forgive me, Father. Why do I feel like you've aged ten years in two months and grown a big beard? Hahaha.
Sorry but P. Pio didn't forgive everyone. God doesn't. Christ didn't. Some people are extreme psychopaths towards totally innocent people. Forgiveness certainly has it's place but certainly *NOT* in every case. There is a lack of discernment regarding the proper use of forgiveness that is a basic fault of Catholicism. And is a good reason for rejection of Catholicism as owning God's only truth
Therefore to say "forgive others their sins if you wish to be forgiven yours" can be interpreted as like: If I wish to have 3 or more wives, all I need do is forgive other men who have 3 or more wives and then I may go about doing the same. Really? Yes. So saith the Lord God of hosts. Alrighty then. In that case I'm all in
I think all you heard in your "interpretation" was *wish* . It doesn't make any sense in reference to the quote you mentioned. Forgiveness isn't a bartering tool or a wishing well (just as God isn't a genie simply because you prayed to Him for something). Forgiveness is a work of grace.
@@stphnklptrk Really? So you know all about God & Jesus? Lets have a look at a few. What does Jesus say about people that abuse children: "And whoever welcomes a little child like this in my name welcomes me. But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea." Nothing about forgiveness there. I guess you missed that one. And:
*Luke 19:27* "But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. 27 But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me" Guess you missed that one too.
Then there's the great saint Padre Pio who would often turn people away from his confessional refusing to hear their sins.
Then there's A. Hitler. Baptized & confirmed Catholic who hated the Church. I guess you're gonna tell me you forgave him long ago. Really dummy. Then there's a whole bunch of other people like Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot. The list is really long into the millions. But you're just too stupid to understand what you're talking about and stupid people don't rate. Your stupid opinions don't merit any more attention than spit
@@stphnklptrk Dummies opinions aren't worth as far as I can spit which isn't far so I'll need you to come up to my face in order for me to land a good one.
Jesus was/is a very controversial figure as many of the sayings ascribed to Him are contradictory which is why whole massive religions have been created just to interpret what must be correct. If you want to be an interpreter you really need to be sure have a full deck of cards, have all your marbles and have all your furniture properly arranged