I'm a massive tech fan. I own a tech startup and I applaud almost all innovation but I can't think of any world where djing is better without being able to see the room.
Djing is a b-r-o-a-d church. If the "room" is a nondescript bedroom, then zoning out (especially in a shared VR world) with decks is gonna be REALLY appealing.
@@digitaldjtips I get that. Just because I can't see a world where it's better doesn't mean others cant. I should have said there's no uses for it for me that would work.
DJing in VR is a great way to access and learn equipment you might not be able to otherwise. In TribeXR, I’ve been able to use the virtual equivalent of thousands of dollars’ worth of Pioneer DJ gear that I wouldn’t have easily had the chance to experience otherwise. Highly recommended! I look forward to giving this one a try as well especially due to the hand tracking. However the ability to share the experience with others is a crucial element. Definitely one to follow! :)
Really impressive how this is coming together. I'm excited about the expressiveness you might be able to get using your hands and the amazing potential of custom UI's for how you want to organize your own decks and controls. Totally seeing the streaming thing as well!
Great review, I picked this up and played with it for a few hours. It's an exceptional version 1.0 and I really hope we get all those future features and improvements you mentioned, those things will take this to the next level. Community features would be absolutely amazing and I'd love anything that supports a listening party because that has been my VR dream for years now.
I'm glad you went and actually tried it before feeding back, Douglas. And as we say, and as you agree, these extra features, which are no doubt coming, will make it so much better.
I also tried it with 0 experience in djing and I have to say, it's really fun. However, without them adding anything community asap, I do not think its gonna last.
Great review Phil, and very exciting gear. I can't help but think this is a little weird when performing in front of crowds, but for livestreaming DJ sets it's brilliant. There's also the Tribe XR CDJ emulation which is a great way for anyone on a budget to hone their "club standard" skills at home. I love the idea of hybrid mode. If Tribe XR do somthing like that it would be great, because people could for example buy the hardware mixer and use virtual decks, then maybe add a real deck later when they can afford it, and so on. It's exciting times to be around.
Some interesting ideas so it will be good to see what the tribe crew come up with next because I think that system has not really changed much for awhile
For us they've "got it right" for this platform, for the mainstream, in a way that Tribe XR - forward-looking and excellent in its own right that it was - didn't quite manage.
Yes and no. Tribe maintains a license with Pioneer and it emulates real club gear. I literally learned Pioneer CDJs and DJMs with Tribe. Algoriddim is going the other way, taking advantage of the VR platform with larger virtual controls. Algoriddim looks like it has better ergonomics for VR controls whereas Tribe will prepare you play in the real world.
I appreciate the concept of avoiding the need for real-life elements; however, for me, the connection to real-world hardware remains essential and will continue to be so. I can see the potential for this approach in future generations, though. I understand you can have a hybrid experience but that's about it for me.
Great review! I think once the communal aspects are introduced this would be a great way of introducing DJs to the “live” environment. The only thing I’m not sure about is whether I would want to have that headset on for a couple of hours (weight/comfort etc).🔥🔥🔥
Excited to try the hand tracking features. I've been DJing in VR with TribeXR for years and love it! This looks like it has some cool features to explore. When it comes to VR/AR musical instruments, the more, the better! They can not only often recreate existing instruments convincingly but also open the door for more experimental creations. I personally want to control both the music and have a high degree of interactive influence over the visuals as well.
@@Nokka10 who cares it´s about the music, the end product, the release, the track, the people dance. Who tf cares how it made. Im not saying that´s the method u need to do, because creating things yourselfs, you have much more controll and more fun, also with DJing, same for me, doing it by ear beatmatching, gives a adrealine kick, but I still don´t really care if someone is using Sync. It´s on his or her own risk lol. If u at a club, venue or festival and the Sync is broken, or just missing on the deck, you are fkt.
Nice one ! Got some questions : 1-No spotify ? 2-How do you connect that to an External speaker and use headphones at the same time to monitor the other deck ?
@@digitaldjtips Regarding the 2 Point i was trying to use the VR app so i would not have to purchase a controler. I mean i have one from Hercules - DJ Console RMX But its so hold tthat i doubt that the Program detects it and not only that but working in mixed reality with oculus meta quest 2 its not ideal ( quest 2 only have low quality black and white cameras pass through )
This is what I want to know also.... the solution of buy a controller renders the whole thing pointless to me, what am I getting it for, flashy game graphics? I want to save a grand on a controller really, haha
i think what's most appealing to me would just be the vr crate. just bending down and sifting through the box but it's my smart crate? i like that 😂 ok wait djing in space seems pretty sweet as well
Best review I've seen so far. Do you think these upgrades will be added to this version of the App or would it be better to wait for the next iteration of it? I would love to have the functionality to stream with it, I've tried that with Tribe but I didn't enjoy it as much. It was still a very complicated experience to get everything set up to have chat up and all, it was only good for recording. This seems much more interesting to me, but I still have doubts.
I think they'll add them to this version of the app. It's not really very difficult to add the streaming stuff. As far as having other people actually in VR with you - who knows, that's a little bit more complicated.
@@digitaldjtips Ended up buying the app and a controller. What sort of cable did you use? My controller has a USB B port, so i tried using a USB A to C converter and 2 wires, and my Quest 3 won't recognize anything plugged into it unfortunately. I've tried contacting Algoriddm support and via twitter and got no reply so far.
What would be actually a great use of this is training to dj in a club. Add darkness, smoke, flashing lights, clubbers trying to talk to you, girls annoying you by asking you to look after thier coat, drunk bloke spilling his pint on the dexks etc, and you have to battle though it. Good preparation!
This would be genuinely exciting and immersive to learn DJing. How awesome would it be to use passthrough to play your own controller whilst looking over Phil's shoulder and being taught! That's a DDJTips lesson we need!
I've used Virture glasses to put Serato on a virtual display and I can see gesturing being a thing, but I can't see VR is going to work unless, as you suggest, you have the audience in VR with you, which would be really cool and could bring people together worldwide. Could be a virtual multi-room club, beach, basement, whatever. A meld with SecondLife perhaps? I guess it could also have a role in tutoring.
just bought it, does not beat the real thing but a lot of fun and i can connect my apple music, not sue it will work with my pioneer gear but i do have Hercules mini bluetooth controller kicking around which might be cool with it
Mr. Phil what a great piece of software Djay algorithm is! It's been my favorite software forever allowing me not only to use a computer but my iPhone and iPad as well, I have a question sir. For those of us who have limited mobility can you use a mouse with this set up? Because I'm not too good at moving my arms around But I can't operate a mouse. Thank you very much
Yoo, I work with Meta and other big tech including Roblox. I also happened to just get into DJing. I do a lot of mixed reality projects. Ah yeah you can probably see my grin!
Imagine a huge crowd that responds to your set and even to whatever is said on the mic, including vocal performances. It’s already an overused term but AI will make all of that possible.
When using my dj controller with this, it gave an option to have the sound come out of the headset. When choosing that option, the audio doesn’t come out. Only through the controller’s master out. What am I missing?
I'm so behind I just went Digital, and bought a Flex 4. So now we're talking vr? I don't know if the decks are real with or audio or what lol. I think I'll go back to analogue and 12 inch vinyl!!
Don't be overwhelmed - stick with your DDJ-FLX4 and learn the ropes. This will be waiting when you're ready, and no doubt it'll be much better by then as well.
@digitaldjtips Remember when controllers were seen as toys? And you were not a "real dj" unless you learned on vinyl? Still a few of those around but for the most part we have embraced the digital. I think most veteran djs will have a hard time accepting this outright. Eventually though
Hello Mr. Phil! I entered Djay website to check compatibility, as far as I understood it works only within android compatible devices, Am I right? Would love to see compatibility within the LC 6000
Yes you can, you can add it via a wire from your laptop (like you used to put music onto iPods back in the day), or if you use Apple Music, it is more elegant to do it that way via the Music app.
One additional cool thing with VR is going clubbing e.g. in VRChat. Then there are real people in the (virtual) club. Still even then I would prefer to play with normal equipment and stream this in the virtual club. But it is a cool thing if people want to start DJing. I would also recommend getting the normal Quest3 and not the Quest3s. Quest3 has better lenses and also features a 3.5mm headphone output which will result in much better sound quality. But VR is in general really great and I'm confused how this is not raising at it should be. It is not only single player gaming it is more the multiplayer things where you can meet friends like they are in same room even if they are living far away. Recommendation would be a very good minigolf game called Walkabout Minigolf... playing this with friends like 90% of the time using VR 🤣
Technology when used PRUDENTLY, has amazing "MENTAL" 💪rewards. The ability to "DISCONNECT" from the real world to relieve stress, all the while being in a SAFE and familiar musical environment, is priceless😁 Just remember to reconnect to be among the living and most importantly, remain grounded✌ Now as far as using in a LIVE club setting I do have reservations, as that is meant for use to engage with your audience via the lens of your 👀, not a head set.
@@digitaldjtips Did you not understand me? or don't you want to understand me?"future technology" was sarcasm It even seems ridiculous to me to be handling my turntables with these glasses on!
Yes, exactly. It's interesting that you hear people saying, "I don't want to cut off from the world and this is stupid," not realising that it's not all about them.
If you could build guest avatars and have AI “program” their musical preferences and you could simulate live DJing to maybe test out transitions or playlists that would be awesome
I just see this as an awesome learning tool. Cheaper way to have the gear to allow a person to get mixing and practicing. This can only be a good thing! Even get me back in to djing after a 15 year hiatus!
Interesting idea but I am not convinced it's responsive enough. I sold my quest 3 as I was getting eye strain from it and the battery wouldn't really last long if it's having to do all that.
@digitaldjtips nah, thanks. I've been using it for a couple of years now. It's awesome for parties and things where I don't have my proper decks. Just turn up with my headset and cast to the TV sound system. Amazing, tbf
Imagine if clubs like Ministry supplied a live stream and you could ‘be the DJ’. Granted the crowd wouldn’t be screaming at the right time, but it would still offer a good vibe for those bedroom DJ’s.
@@digitaldjtips tom from tribe here. curious as to how you think it's different? The touch interface? simpler decks? the usb/midi connection to decks (That kind of feedback is genuinely useful for us as we continue to improve Tribe!)
@@tomimpallomeni The hand tracking looks pretty awesome but I seriously doubt that it could handle small controls like buttons, knobs and sliders very well(yet). But being able to pass your hand through a zone like in the video and have it effect something looks pretty neat. Tribe always has me thinking of how other more traditional instruments might work in VR as well. Love you guys! Dreamed of DJing in VR for 20+ years before TribeXR came along! 🥰🙌🎶
great - another reason for our kids to isolate more and live in fantasy land. i love tech and all but some if it is not good for the younger generations. for those of us that actually know how to talk and interact with a real human this is a cool escape. Not sure where I stand on this.
I'm a huge tech fan, but I'll definitely give this a miss. This is like driving a Lamborghini and then jumping into a Tesla. Losing the whole tactile experience throws everything about REAL DJ'ing (Like James Hype would say) out the window. Not to be negative or to discredit the concept, but I really cant see this taking off. It seems pretty disorientated and disconnected from a real crowd engaging experience. Lets be honest . . . Its going to take a whole lot of DJ's a whole lot of time to properly make the transition from their existing gear . . . that they've paid a pretty penny for . . .to this kind of artificial experience. Cant see it happening. Maybe for a much younger generation that don't know any better...But 100% kudos to the Iron Man experience...
That’s not who this is aimed at this is aimed at people who are just getting started or who want a bit of fun and I don’t think anything is wrong with that
One the flip side I have watched those emerge from these artificial experiences equipped with the skills to run high-end equipment that they have never actually touched.
Yeah, super cool but a big pass from me. Put my DJ booth in the middle of the dance floor so they’re bumping up against the booth and I can feel the crowd and ride their vibe. That’s why I DJ. Virtual DJing heads in the completely opposite direction. I already feel a bit disconnected with in-ear monitors, don’t need to strap this thing on my head. The tech is amazing, but the hype is over the top - it’s got a heavy dose of gaslighting and techno-wankery.
If you tried this software, you'd realise, I guess, that stems is a stretch too far at this point. It's tricky enough getting used to what they have put in it. I won't worry too much about it myself.
They shipped the wrong product. it annoys me to all fuck that companies keep doing this. this shouldnt be a standalone APP, it should be an overlay. there is an entire scene of VR DJs clucking for a product like this but instead of shipping a product where there is Product Market FIt, they are aiming at a casual market.
It can be both, if I understand you right. You're right though, they're not aiming at existing VR DJs, they are aiming at a new market, which seems smart to me.
@@digitaldjtips from what I have seen it doesn't work as an overlay, you can use it in passthrough mode, but thats not whats meant by an overlay. To be an overlay it would have to run on the desktop & hook into steamvr. An overlay is able to run "on top of" other VR content. Every weekend there are 100s of events with 50+ people each inatance in vrchat, there are thousands of VR DJs that play at these events, many of whom spend thousands of £ on their vr setups who currently dj in vr, half wearing their headset and looking down nose or navigating controllers by feel. This audience is who this product should be aimed at, users who treat vr as a lifestyle and therefore see algorriddim as an investment, not who they are currently aiming at, which is users who see VR as a fun toy .
Especially because over the next few years this audience will have an outsized impact and representation on the DJ scene as a whole going forward. Where else can a junior dj get experience playing 5-6 clubs a weekend, every weekend . Capture this audience and you capture a sizeable chunk of future up and comings
I don't understand why people have to be so aggressive and closed-minded. What constitutes something being BS? I'd be interested in your definition of that. "Maybe, but not for me" might be actually more accurately what you thin?. We're a polite and helpful community here, so this kind of comment jars with us.
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⚡ TIMESTAMPS ⚡
00:00 Intro
00:51 Mixed reality demo
02:20 Virtual reality demo
03:38 Real DJ gear & no laptop
05:08 ESKEI83 club demo
05:39 Is it for you?
06:43 Feature overview
08:20 The Tribe XR approach
09:08 Music library
09:44 Loading tracks
10:26 Effects
10:47 EQ, filter & cues
11:04 Headphone monitoring
11:47 Shortcomings
14:08 Stems?
14:31 The BIGGEST problem
17:14 What we think..
17:38 Hybrid mode?
Maybe in the clubs they could somehow link big tv screens so that the audience can see what the DJ is seeing.
I'm a massive tech fan. I own a tech startup and I applaud almost all innovation but I can't think of any world where djing is better without being able to see the room.
You can see the room as it's AR as well as VR.
@@robd1823 I''ve got similar VR apps that do the same. It rarely works well. It always feels like a barrier.
Djing is a b-r-o-a-d church. If the "room" is a nondescript bedroom, then zoning out (especially in a shared VR world) with decks is gonna be REALLY appealing.
I am a software engineer and a huge fan of innovation. No way I would use this. I also play DCS with a full VR setup too 😂
@@digitaldjtips I get that. Just because I can't see a world where it's better doesn't mean others cant. I should have said there's no uses for it for me that would work.
One of the best yet! This actually excites me for the future of DJing!
Me too!
@@digitaldjtips me not 😉😉😉😉
DJing in VR is a great way to access and learn equipment you might not be able to otherwise. In TribeXR, I’ve been able to use the virtual equivalent of thousands of dollars’ worth of Pioneer DJ gear that I wouldn’t have easily had the chance to experience otherwise. Highly recommended!
I look forward to giving this one a try as well especially due to the hand tracking. However the ability to share the experience with others is a crucial element. Definitely one to follow! :)
It's very different to Tribe, but they both have worth.
Here we are! Djing touching nothing... and y'all still debating the sync button
Don't see many people debating the sync button around here any more...
@digitaldjtips not here for sure but it's out there. And i love you guys for advocating responsible use of the sync button. That's why im here👍
@@digitaldjtips Reddit is still a hotbed of luddites waiting for the gramophone to make a comeback.
Did you not watch the video?
@@digitaldjtipshey hey 👋 ive been making nosie for years
Really impressive how this is coming together. I'm excited about the expressiveness you might be able to get using your hands and the amazing potential of custom UI's for how you want to organize your own decks and controls. Totally seeing the streaming thing as well!
Yes, there is a lot of potential here.
Great review, I picked this up and played with it for a few hours. It's an exceptional version 1.0 and I really hope we get all those future features and improvements you mentioned, those things will take this to the next level. Community features would be absolutely amazing and I'd love anything that supports a listening party because that has been my VR dream for years now.
I'm glad you went and actually tried it before feeding back, Douglas. And as we say, and as you agree, these extra features, which are no doubt coming, will make it so much better.
I also tried it with 0 experience in djing and I have to say, it's really fun. However, without them adding anything community asap, I do not think its gonna last.
A great solution to use with VRChat! Been waiting for this, where you can see the audience in VR Chat worlds.
Oooh sounds interesting
Great review Phil, and very exciting gear. I can't help but think this is a little weird when performing in front of crowds, but for livestreaming DJ sets it's brilliant. There's also the Tribe XR CDJ emulation which is a great way for anyone on a budget to hone their "club standard" skills at home. I love the idea of hybrid mode. If Tribe XR do somthing like that it would be great, because people could for example buy the hardware mixer and use virtual decks, then maybe add a real deck later when they can afford it, and so on. It's exciting times to be around.
Some interesting ideas so it will be good to see what the tribe crew come up with next because I think that system has not really changed much for awhile
Woah this will blow Tribes out the water!
For us they've "got it right" for this platform, for the mainstream, in a way that Tribe XR - forward-looking and excellent in its own right that it was - didn't quite manage.
Yes and no. Tribe maintains a license with Pioneer and it emulates real club gear. I literally learned Pioneer CDJs and DJMs with Tribe. Algoriddim is going the other way, taking advantage of the VR platform with larger virtual controls. Algoriddim looks like it has better ergonomics for VR controls whereas Tribe will prepare you play in the real world.
I was waiting for this so I could stream my sets.
Looks like Christmas has come early for you
I appreciate the concept of avoiding the need for real-life elements; however, for me, the connection to real-world hardware remains essential and will continue to be so. I can see the potential for this approach in future generations, though. I understand you can have a hybrid experience but that's about it for me.
the hybrid experience is spot on, to be fair
amazing tool to make DJ turtorials. Pretty cool to learn Vinyl this way or a CDJ
Totally!
Great review! I think once the communal aspects are introduced this would be a great way of introducing DJs to the “live” environment. The only thing I’m not sure about is whether I would want to have that headset on for a couple of hours (weight/comfort etc).🔥🔥🔥
Well, a couple of hours is all you get (battery life) - my kids seem to manage it fine!
Once they add in person multiuser (colocation), the croud can have their headsets on and see a fully immersive fantasy experience synced to the set!
Yes, this is the thing that's missing, we agree
Excited to try the hand tracking features. I've been DJing in VR with TribeXR for years and love it! This looks like it has some cool features to explore.
When it comes to VR/AR musical instruments, the more, the better! They can not only often recreate existing instruments convincingly but also open the door for more experimental creations.
I personally want to control both the music and have a high degree of interactive influence over the visuals as well.
Love the idea of VR/AR instruments
This is a game changer! Think about 10 years from now where this is gonna be! 🔥🔥🔥
Yes, we agree - this is a v1.0 after all.
Uninstalled?
@@DillioSmithers 😂😂😂
The world of djing has already been ruined by the digital age and all the posers and sync button idiots. Yeah this will defo be a game changer lol
@@Nokka10 who cares it´s about the music, the end product, the release, the track, the people dance. Who tf cares how it made. Im not saying that´s the method u need to do, because creating things yourselfs, you have much more controll and more fun, also with DJing, same for me, doing it by ear beatmatching, gives a adrealine kick, but I still don´t really care if someone is using Sync. It´s on his or her own risk lol. If u at a club, venue or festival and the Sync is broken, or just missing on the deck, you are fkt.
What kind of stylus do you need? I might need to update my 3mm gramophone compatible sapphire. Peace ✌️
They never wear out!
Nice one !
Got some questions :
1-No spotify ?
2-How do you connect that to an External speaker and use headphones at the same time to monitor the other deck ?
1. No (no DJ software does)
2. use a controller is the easiest way
@@digitaldjtips Regarding the 2 Point i was trying to use the VR app so i would not have to purchase a controler. I mean i have one from Hercules - DJ Console RMX But its so hold tthat i doubt that the Program detects it and not only that but working in mixed reality with oculus meta quest 2 its not ideal ( quest 2 only have low quality black and white cameras pass through )
This is what I want to know also.... the solution of buy a controller renders the whole thing pointless to me, what am I getting it for, flashy game graphics? I want to save a grand on a controller really, haha
i think what's most appealing to me would just be the vr crate. just bending down and sifting through the box but it's my smart crate? i like that 😂 ok wait djing in space seems pretty sweet as well
Good point! the way the library works is pretty cool
Best review I've seen so far. Do you think these upgrades will be added to this version of the App or would it be better to wait for the next iteration of it? I would love to have the functionality to stream with it, I've tried that with Tribe but I didn't enjoy it as much. It was still a very complicated experience to get everything set up to have chat up and all, it was only good for recording. This seems much more interesting to me, but I still have doubts.
I think they'll add them to this version of the app. It's not really very difficult to add the streaming stuff. As far as having other people actually in VR with you - who knows, that's a little bit more complicated.
@@digitaldjtips Ended up buying the app and a controller. What sort of cable did you use? My controller has a USB B port, so i tried using a USB A to C converter and 2 wires, and my Quest 3 won't recognize anything plugged into it unfortunately. I've tried contacting Algoriddm support and via twitter and got no reply so far.
Phil in the matirx! The real Neo.
Ha!
I’ve been DJing using TribeXR in a club using up to 6 CDJs, club standard. All virtual in my Meta Quest headset
wow, sounds like fun!
Much appreciate this tutorial and showcase!
Glad this helps you.
What would be actually a great use of this is training to dj in a club. Add darkness, smoke, flashing lights, clubbers trying to talk to you, girls annoying you by asking you to look after thier coat, drunk bloke spilling his pint on the dexks etc, and you have to battle though it. Good preparation!
Ha ha, like a multi-level game, where the environment gets more and more challenging as you "DJ up a level"!
@digitaldjtips it's what DJ hero should have been.
This would be genuinely exciting and immersive to learn DJing. How awesome would it be to use passthrough to play your own controller whilst looking over Phil's shoulder and being taught! That's a DDJTips lesson we need!
Thank you!! Nice work!
Our pleasure!
I've used Virture glasses to put Serato on a virtual display and I can see gesturing being a thing, but I can't see VR is going to work unless, as you suggest, you have the audience in VR with you, which would be really cool and could bring people together worldwide. Could be a virtual multi-room club, beach, basement, whatever. A meld with SecondLife perhaps? I guess it could also have a role in tutoring.
Yes to all! And it is surely coming
just bought it, does not beat the real thing but a lot of fun and i can connect my apple music, not sue it will work with my pioneer gear but i do have Hercules mini bluetooth controller kicking around which might be cool with it
Glad you’re enjoying it
Djay is two steps ahead :-)
We think only they could have done this at this point.
@@digitaldjtips so true.
hahah sure I wanna play with it, but I never want anyone to see me doing it
Good comment! It takes a brave person to head out and do this in public, for sure.
Cast it into a screen while you do it!
@@digitaldjtips actually I posted that before seeing the dubstep guy... maybe not that bad to include in a preformance after all
Will be fun to do a few streams with this!
Yes, agreed
Mr. Phil what a great piece of software Djay algorithm is! It's been my favorite software forever allowing me not only to use a computer but my iPhone and iPad as well, I have a question sir. For those of us who have limited mobility can you use a mouse with this set up? Because I'm not too good at moving my arms around But I can't operate a mouse. Thank you very much
No, but you can use the controllers that come with the VR, I believe
Yoo, I work with Meta and other big tech including Roblox. I also happened to just get into DJing. I do a lot of mixed reality projects. Ah yeah you can probably see my grin!
I be you've got a HUGE grin!
"one off payment" yeah that's how they got me with the iPad app, which is now a subscription.
Well you can vote with your feet.
Very cool
Phil, is it possible to record/capture a DJ set with this and then post it to socials afterwards? Does it work with music videos too?
I didnt see any videos. There is a record option however that saves on your quest (cant say anythign about quality as I didnt use it yet, but it does)
Yes, it is. No doesn't work with videos as far as I know.
@@digitaldjtips Thank you!
Now im feeling old. Im just getting back into djing on new gear. Still i want a go though....
Ha ha, you can do both
Where is the discount for owning djay pro?
A discount on $20? That ain't gonna happen.
as a dj who streams. would i be able to live stream my sets with it?
you can currently with a bit of work, we are hoping/expecting that they make this easier though
So I'm thinking about is how big/complex the coding for the programme running it and who codes!
They're a pretty slick operation of about 30 people, so they've got some decent coding talent.
Imagine a huge crowd that responds to your set and even to whatever is said on the mic, including vocal performances. It’s already an overused term but AI will make all of that possible.
You're right - it will, and it'll be a great tool for practising, for instance.
Do you need to have some sort of online music subscription like I-tunes or amazon or can you have a custom mp3 library. I have no music subscriptions.
You can use your own music
The pass through cutout on the Quest 2 is going to look nasty.
It's all inferior on the Quest 2, to be expected - 3/3S/Pro are better
When using my dj controller with this, it gave an option to have the sound come out of the headset. When choosing that option, the audio doesn’t come out. Only through the controller’s master out. What am I missing?
I'm not sure, I'm afraid.
But can it separate stems? :p
14:15 🤣
I'm so behind I just went Digital, and bought a Flex 4. So now we're talking vr?
I don't know if the decks are real with or audio or what lol. I think I'll go back to analogue and 12 inch vinyl!!
Don't be overwhelmed - stick with your DDJ-FLX4 and learn the ropes. This will be waiting when you're ready, and no doubt it'll be much better by then as well.
Ahhh its the software DJing and controller conversation again lol. I think it will go the same way
What do you mean?
@digitaldjtips Remember when controllers were seen as toys? And you were not a "real dj" unless you learned on vinyl? Still a few of those around but for the most part we have embraced the digital. I think most veteran djs will have a hard time accepting this outright. Eventually though
Tribe xr looks 10x better in my opinion! Ive done live streams with my logo in the background and visuals it was nuts
Cool, glad that's working for you.
Awesome! I can play in my PJ's to a fake music festival audience without leaving my house!
You can indeed
Hello Mr. Phil! I entered Djay website to check compatibility, as far as I understood it works only within android compatible devices, Am I right? Would love to see compatibility within the LC 6000
I’m not sure what you’re saying. This is a virtual reality headset. You don’t use it with anything if you don’t want to.
Love this idea, but unfortunately my DDJ-1000 is not supported
No, they've only done 40 devices so many will be missed. You should try it without DJ hardware though - I think that's the main use case frankly.
is there any way to get my spotify into it?
No, you can't get Spotify on any DJ software on any platform, sadly.
Can you use your music library for this?
Yes you can, you can add it via a wire from your laptop (like you used to put music onto iPods back in the day), or if you use Apple Music, it is more elegant to do it that way via the Music app.
@digitaldjtips thank you! Going to give this a try!
we need a full balcony beats of phil on the vr
Considering it…
One additional cool thing with VR is going clubbing e.g. in VRChat. Then there are real people in the (virtual) club. Still even then I would prefer to play with normal equipment and stream this in the virtual club. But it is a cool thing if people want to start DJing.
I would also recommend getting the normal Quest3 and not the Quest3s. Quest3 has better lenses and also features a 3.5mm headphone output which will result in much better sound quality.
But VR is in general really great and I'm confused how this is not raising at it should be. It is not only single player gaming it is more the multiplayer things where you can meet friends like they are in same room even if they are living far away. Recommendation would be a very good minigolf game called Walkabout Minigolf... playing this with friends like 90% of the time using VR 🤣
My son is pretty hooked on Beat Saber, I have to say.
Technology when used PRUDENTLY, has amazing "MENTAL" 💪rewards.
The ability to "DISCONNECT" from the real world to relieve stress, all the while being in a SAFE and familiar musical environment, is priceless😁
Just remember to reconnect to be among the living and most importantly, remain grounded✌
Now as far as using in a LIVE club setting I do have reservations, as that is meant for use to engage with your audience via the lens of your 👀, not a head set.
Agree totally
Can you load your own local music files with out streaming from sites and has it got video and audio ouputs
Whoops ignore my comments got excited and didn't watch the whole video watching in full now 😅
No problem Tony!
Not my thing, but the tech loving people out there will love it I'm sure.👍
It’s definitely not for everyone you’re right
This type of future technology, I am not the least bit interested!
I prefer the technology of the present! 😔
Well, this is of the present now!
@@digitaldjtips Did you not understand me? or don't you want to understand me?"future technology" was sarcasm
It even seems ridiculous to me to be handling my turntables with these glasses on!
Cool, move along then.
@@Rafal_DnB 🤣💪
For all the introverts out there, the future might just be bright after all! 😆
Yes, exactly. It's interesting that you hear people saying, "I don't want to cut off from the world and this is stupid," not realising that it's not all about them.
Nah, I need to be hands-on. Its integral to the psycho-connection of DJing itself. Same with being in a dark and dingy club, soggy carpet and all.
Room for all types…
If you could build guest avatars and have AI “program” their musical preferences and you could simulate live DJing to maybe test out transitions or playlists that would be awesome
What a great idea that is
I just see this as an awesome learning tool. Cheaper way to have the gear to allow a person to get mixing and practicing. This can only be a good thing!
Even get me back in to djing after a 15 year hiatus!
Couldn't agree more!
Interesting idea but I am not convinced it's responsive enough. I sold my quest 3 as I was getting eye strain from it and the battery wouldn't really last long if it's having to do all that.
It's definitely responsive enough, but you're right, the VR experience is not for everyone.
Can we use rekordbox too?
No
How can this be used for TikTok live streaming as a dj
Several ways, but none of them perfect at the moment. We're hoping live streaming gets added very soon, as talked about in the video.
@digitaldjtips thank you
I’m an Apple Music subscriber and noticed it doesn’t pull my playlists from Apple Music, just my local playlists that I’ve created…
Oh, that’s interesting. We’ve not had time to check that yet. We’ll have a look next time we have it all working.
Once it is good enough, we can have DJ battles from home and live stream
Yes, it's pretty close I'd say
If this was djay's big news, what a popcorn fart
Can't please everyone!
Are you aware of Pioneer's Tribe vr DJing software?
We are indeed - we speak about it both in this video and in the article. Anything in particular you want to ask?
@digitaldjtips nah, thanks. I've been using it for a couple of years now. It's awesome for parties and things where I don't have my proper decks. Just turn up with my headset and cast to the TV sound system. Amazing, tbf
Dance audience can stay at home and dance overthere; just with VR device and connection to internet.
It’s one possibility
Imagine if clubs like Ministry supplied a live stream and you could ‘be the DJ’. Granted the crowd wouldn’t be screaming at the right time, but it would still offer a good vibe for those bedroom DJ’s.
Yes, without doubt it will happen
It's hilarious that you sell this as the future
We're not selling anything except DJ courses. djtips.co/funding
All of the reviewers so hyped. 🤣
But it is the future of DJ-ing. Why wouldn’t it be?
@Rafal_DnB go right ahead you got it figured out.
He didn’t. You just want attention. Actually he touched on the negatives with honesty.
very exciting they hit it out of the park
Yes, it isn't perfect but they did indeed hit it out of the park for a v1.0
Add a silent disco and it’s lame squared.
Dope just gimme the stems!
I am sure they'll come, this is a 1.0
Tribe had been doing this forever.
They have, but it's totally different
@@digitaldjtips tom from tribe here. curious as to how you think it's different? The touch interface? simpler decks? the usb/midi connection to decks (That kind of feedback is genuinely useful for us as we continue to improve Tribe!)
Woot Woot! 🙌🙌🙌
@@tomimpallomeni The hand tracking looks pretty awesome but I seriously doubt that it could handle small controls like buttons, knobs and sliders very well(yet). But being able to pass your hand through a zone like in the video and have it effect something looks pretty neat. Tribe always has me thinking of how other more traditional instruments might work in VR as well.
Love you guys! Dreamed of DJing in VR for 20+ years before TribeXR came along! 🥰🙌🎶
Waaat 😮
Oy, watching the VR parts of this video got me dizzy 😵💫
You should try wearing it!
great - another reason for our kids to isolate more and live in fantasy land. i love tech and all but some if it is not good for the younger generations. for those of us that actually know how to talk and interact with a real human this is a cool escape. Not sure where I stand on this.
Kids can have the best of everything in my view
I think you’re missing the point of such new gear. Imho it’s the other way around.
If you say so phil 😂👍
19:51 imagine have a gig with that thing on lol
*watches vid a bit more*
LMAOO IT´S ALREADY IS A THING?!
It is already a thing!
I wonder what Qbert could do on this
Would be interesting to see!
Can you scratch on the decks? He never actually touched the record.
Oh come on. This makes no sense... this is more a video game not dj equipment.
You should try it
Cable will hold for 5ms.
I'm a huge tech fan, but I'll definitely give this a miss. This is like driving a Lamborghini and then jumping into a Tesla. Losing the whole tactile experience throws everything about REAL DJ'ing (Like James Hype would say) out the window. Not to be negative or to discredit the concept, but I really cant see this taking off. It seems pretty disorientated and disconnected from a real crowd engaging experience. Lets be honest . . . Its going to take a whole lot of DJ's a whole lot of time to properly make the transition from their existing gear . . . that they've paid a pretty penny for . . .to this kind of artificial experience. Cant see it happening. Maybe for a much younger generation that don't know any better...But 100% kudos to the Iron Man experience...
That’s not who this is aimed at this is aimed at people who are just getting started or who want a bit of fun and I don’t think anything is wrong with that
One the flip side I have watched those emerge from these artificial experiences equipped with the skills to run high-end equipment that they have never actually touched.
Seems very fun but useless for working DJs
Yeah definitely not aimed at working DJs.
$300-......ya dreaming, in Australia they are $800-
Yeah, sorry, I know nothing about prices in Australia.
No DJ will take this seriously until they add the ability to snort virtual cocaine off the table.
Virtual?
Yeah, super cool but a big pass from me.
Put my DJ booth in the middle of the dance floor so they’re bumping up against the booth and I can feel the crowd and ride their vibe. That’s why I DJ.
Virtual DJing heads in the completely opposite direction. I already feel a bit disconnected with in-ear monitors, don’t need to strap this thing on my head. The tech is amazing, but the hype is over the top - it’s got a heavy dose of gaslighting and techno-wankery.
Lots of ways to DJ nowadays of course, it’s not an either/or
Deciding not to do Stems cos of Quest 2 was a poor decision. Quest 2 passthrough is in black n white anyway, no one wants that...
If you tried this software, you'd realise, I guess, that stems is a stretch too far at this point. It's tricky enough getting used to what they have put in it. I won't worry too much about it myself.
They shipped the wrong product. it annoys me to all fuck that companies keep doing this. this shouldnt be a standalone APP, it should be an overlay. there is an entire scene of VR DJs clucking for a product like this but instead of shipping a product where there is Product Market FIt, they are aiming at a casual market.
I agree something like an overlay makes sense or some way of better integrating it into existing social experiences.
It can be both, if I understand you right. You're right though, they're not aiming at existing VR DJs, they are aiming at a new market, which seems smart to me.
@@digitaldjtips from what I have seen it doesn't work as an overlay, you can use it in passthrough mode, but thats not whats meant by an overlay. To be an overlay it would have to run on the desktop & hook into steamvr. An overlay is able to run "on top of" other VR content.
Every weekend there are 100s of events with 50+ people each inatance in vrchat, there are thousands of VR DJs that play at these events, many of whom spend thousands of £ on their vr setups who currently dj in vr, half wearing their headset and looking down nose or navigating controllers by feel. This audience is who this product should be aimed at, users who treat vr as a lifestyle and therefore see algorriddim as an investment, not who they are currently aiming at, which is users who see VR as a fun toy .
Especially because over the next few years this audience will have an outsized impact and representation on the DJ scene as a whole going forward. Where else can a junior dj get experience playing 5-6 clubs a weekend, every weekend . Capture this audience and you capture a sizeable chunk of future up and comings
I dont no wat to make of it
Nor did I at first!
We don’t needed really?
We didn’t need the iPhone when it turned up, but look what happened with that
No, it didn’t. 🤣🤣🤣
pretending to be a Pre-Crime Detective from Minority Report
I loved that film.
lol
Just stupid. Proper DJs don't need this. Huge gimmick
Define "proper DJ"
NOPE......a BS gimmick
I don't understand why people have to be so aggressive and closed-minded. What constitutes something being BS? I'd be interested in your definition of that. "Maybe, but not for me" might be actually more accurately what you thin?. We're a polite and helpful community here, so this kind of comment jars with us.
DJing is becoming a joke day by day
Why is this a "joke"?