The global nature of EVE is something most overlook. I'm a redneck from southern USA and I've spent hours getting drunk and accomplishing real goals in the middle of the night with a bunch of German and Irish lads. Learning cultures I never would without EVE and forming bonds with these duders that go beyond race or language barriers.
I found your description of Eve as a ''real'' RPG very inspirational. I'm back after a two year absence after trying No Man's Sky and Elite: Dangerous and found they couldn't scratch the itch that Eve gives you. I started in 2004 (Eve was on sale on a disc lol) and stuck with it for many years, learning new stuff all the time. I missed scarcity and the blackout so I suppose I was lucky but when I returned my ships could fetch astronomical prices if I wished to sell them (several of which I did to pad my wallet). The most enjoyable aspect I've found as a hi-sec industrialist is that I can make hundreds of millions of ISK every week using only my alts working Planetary Management. It seems to be the one area CCP haven't nerfed (fingers crossed). If I decide to sell my soul to a nullsec corp I'm free to do it and, with CVA moving back into Providence, I just might. So yes, I'm a 19 year old character who's a carebear nowadays, but the options are still there. Thanks Ashterothi for a great inducement-to-play video.
I used to play Eve way back in the early days. I haven't played since 2008ish. Your video has sold me on jumping back in again. I've been so burnt out on the stuff that passes for MMOs these days and I'd pretty much forgotten Eve even exists. Thank you for reigniting my interest! Can't wait to dive back in now!
I remember the days of old, when Eve was the best MMO. Back in 2007 when I had my first toon. I have no idea what this game looks like today, but it took almost 10 years of my life. I do not regret a single SECOND of that time.... Thank you CCP
Been playing since 06. From then to about 2012 I played daily. Then I played only a few months a year. But I returned recently and have loved every second of it. The time training payed off as being a newbro now would be terrible. It's better than ever and getting better imo. It could be that I'm no longer in the poor tax bracket and the doors have opened for many many things. Been multiboxing hard-core since 2018 and idk, the game is the best. I think only so if you can plex yourself without stress.
its still about the mates ..if yours are like mine they have moved on . but when I started back in 2006 ,I did it right and found friends right out of the chute. we played about 2 -3 years and I left due to the great recession . taking the corp/alliance activity on zkill there seems to be a mass falling away from 2011 to 2016. its still eve ....but if you come back you are going to be feeling a bit old/noob , very strange. it really is beautiful
Everyone should just make an eve online character and start training it. Even if you never think youll play the game. If you eventually decide to play, youll be happy you started training.
At first I was like 1 hour!? dude wtf! but then I remembered how I go on and on to a friend about EvE and not notice how 2 hours have passed and I still have about 10 hours more to speak about... So in that sense I could say this is quite a nice summary of what the game actually is! Thanx mate 💙
Is it fun to play without friends? Since I was young I was drawn to EVE online but seeing how hard/time consuming it is I always thought it was never worth it.
About "real life" aspect of EVE. I'm from Russia, so you know...politics and stuff... Recently we had a talk from our corp leadership to share IRL contacts with corpmates that live in nearby cities/regions. "Just in case" as they said, cause its unstable times and who knows what can happen. And I'm sure if I would need to move myself and my family, I would easily find at least a dozen of places where I will find support from the people I play with. Almost no other game gives bonds this strong.
Like the way you approach this for nembies its so practical. Im 77 years old and its kind of laughable and my age but am looking to supplement some of my free time and not rush into this overnite so to speak. Keep up the good work. W6DLB station.
Becoming an FC, alliance Council member and general spacenerd has literally given me the confidence that is required in my career today. It also gave me lifelong friendships and helped me through some very tough years. I will always love eve and it's always going to be "the game I wish I wanted to play" until I do again. ❤
I like it being described as a hobby more than a typical game. That is so true. Taking breaks is also a great tip. I'll go play a new game, like Cyberpunk 2077 for a month or two, then come back and I've trained a bunch of stuff.
be glad theres a skill cue. I started playing when there wasnt. You trained the skill you were on, set an alarm to switch it or would switch to another skill until I was able to get it to complete when I was home. It was rough.
Ash, fan of your content and empyreans. Cheers! The videos that are needed to grow the community and player base are: Bite size (5 min or so) videos covering newb topics like: 1) how to clear the tutorial missions 2) how to set up your HUD screen optimally 3) ship control basics 4). Basic intro to career paths 5 min videos are clippble/ shareable and no one in eve universe is doing them. The things that keep new players from eve aren’t big questions, they’re actually really really small. Like: how do I outfit a ship that shoots? How do I shoot stuff? I know that sounds basic, but that’s what it is. The HUD is incredibly confusing and overwhelming, and little vids to help people along would be a huge help.
I came back a cpl of weeks ago and did the Tutori. IT Shows most things now. What keeps players out is that while being visually stunnung theres No Direct Control No pew pew.
I actually got a job for a member of my EVE corp at the company I worked for then, and where he is now a member of the management team and celebrated his 10 years jubilee a few years ago.
I was aaaaalways flirting with Eve but never made the step to join it for various reasons, one being much too much stuff to learn for a "feeled" low action. The older I grow no the more attractive Eve gets and I finally started playing in December now. First thing I thought after 1 week was the same you mentioned in the video "I wish I wouldve started earlier" ^^ So ye totally true video and btw. I love your content
I played eve for just a few months a couple of years back and stopped because my corp fell apart. But i just came back again last month and its like falling in love all over again. I cant believe this game is still around but god damn am i happy it is. The eve community is truly unique.
I'm also playing since 2010, with quite a bit of time off. I am thinking about coming back though, if even just for a little messing around in some pve or something. I've resubbed one account so far.
The ability to use in-game Currency to extend your Omega time is the SOLE reason Eve has kept me for 2 decades. My only complaint with eve is CCP's laser focus on continuing to empower alliances with extra perks others are not allowed to have; the very people who need it least get the most. This skewing promotes a dozen massive blob alliances allowing them to control everything, which I still strongly believe stifles the true potential of the game and has kept them capped for many years.
Hi! Im an old solo carebear (2010). Quitted EvE because even half hour of mission grind/day to sustain Omega status was too boring. Now im considering to play Alfa whenever I choose, to build some isk without "monkey on my back". Never being pvp player (im too soft), but i will try to play it with solo frigates. Grinding for Omega is a biggest turn-off for me. Not being able to drive a Golem without it, or play with planets for example. Too many restrictions to be able to enjoy it fully. Ty for the video and reignited desire to play!
One thing that keeps me from really getting into the game is how ISK is purchasable for a very low amount of money vs. the hours of in game grinding it requires. It kills any motivation to try to earn ISK in game for me, and it being such a central part of your progress (skills, ships, items, basically everything), it’s kind of demotivating.
Difference between EVE from other MMO's is, ISK means nothing, You can buy most expensive ship out there, you dock out and you die by Alpha 10+ gank of newbies :D while in other mmorpg you buy best gear and rip everyone in shreds, not here, not in EVE.
Eve is a game you play in the background of you're main game when you 1st start out. I just joined Eve as a new player on my 2n week and I can 100% agree that you are better off takeing slow and just work on skill on 2-3 toon/Acc, log in every 2-3 days do something here and there, but it a pick up and put down game when starting. I play it on the side when im Streaming my Main game or doing some work at home. I love it I will say that I wish i started sooner and just worked on skills, but even if I did not, this give me time to learn how to do all the stuff in the game..well try lol AND give me time to learn how to make ISK and farm so when i have the skills learned i can build/Buy the new toks to loos 5min later ^^ hehe
Awesome video! I played a lot from 2010-13 and have been back for a couple of times but never for very long. I do miss it even though I never was especially good at the game. I would like to get back into the game at some point and I like the idea of going solo and maybe get into smaller fights. I would love to do other stuff too but this is my first priority. What would you suggest to get the best experience for that kind of gameplay? I'm stationed somewhere in high-sec right now, but close to low-sec. I'm pretty skilled up and cashed up so loosing ships shouldn't be too painful. 😀
what im really facinated about when it comes to this game, is that even i only started getting serious about industry and actually "getting rich" bit over a year ago, it dident take long before i as a lonly industrialist actaully could make an quite noticable impact on the Jita marked. allso there is a huge difference in beginner experince for people that managed to get dragged stright into newbie friendly corp vs people that fly around alone for maby months before they realize what a corp actually are and how importent they are. when i joined the game, took me couple of months atleast before joining a corp, and i wasted alot of time and effort trying to figure out stuff on my own, and it was rather painfull. in comparison my corp not long ago recruited couple of people that was brand new to the game, and we could help them getting most importent skills first right away, getting them going with some better ships, startup funds and boosting their experience from the start, and kinda have them jump over the slow booring start game can be...
been playing happily for the last three years as an alpha and without a null corp or a skill injector. enjoying the game just fine - through ever emptying skies. we even have new youtube personalities saying they've never seen gankers. you're still preaching the pearl abyss company line and we're still waiting for the in-game prosperity you assured us all the company was going to give us throughout scarcity, et al. game IS great despite the money-sucking efforts of the suits...
So how is the ganker situation nowadays? The last time I played any new corpo was almost immediately ganked to hell and back which drained a lot of new players. There was no way to grow back then because pretty much as soon as you got more than 4 members you were declared war on by multiple other corpos and were thus locked to high sec meaning the corpo couldn't grow. We even tried to organize with other new corpos to get guarded conveys going but they had the same problems and all it did was expand the war fronts and increase the new player drain even further. So after about a year of mostly no progress I just gave up and played something else instead. Sad thing is I really liked the industrial gameplay side of things .. well at least the parts I could access without running into the war wall 😮💨
You should become a part of an alliance, even a perfunctory one. It just costs more to declare war. To me those first months, when we were constantly wardeced were the most fun. To lose first ships, to learn how to fly - majestic.
Eve is a game of alts. You can easily have 1 or 2 accounts of alpha clone alts you are training for various things, or just having combat alts. then you can pay for omega on an account and make it your main, and focus on the paid skills training and the main things you want to do at the highest level
"It does have a tendency to suck you in" yes... yes it does. I started about a month ago and I cannot stop playing. Mainly doing expo in a heron and some easy ratting, but having so much fun. I have like 2 years worth of skills training though the order is constantly changing with what I want to do. Wish I played this game years ago, it's amazing.
I started in 2008 and came back several times. First time I quit I failed on a contract and gave all my stuff away. Woops! Last time I came back I warped into triglavian space in a freighter and even got podded. This time im sure to seek out information on game changing events! Dont feel like getting podded because warp core stabs arent a thing anymore. This game with all its changes is awesome. Still want to walk around in station tough!
TBH that doom and gloom 6 months ago or so got me to log back in. I have been having a lot of fun, I am approaching 30 mil skill points so its really nice being able to do lots of dif content and I have never even gotten into the pvp side of things too much. I think one of the big reasons eve has suffered numbers wise is lack of content updates over the pandemic. The game is the best MMO out there, the sandbox aspect of eve is simply amazing.
you're not wrong, but from the perspective of someone who played for ages and has done most content when it was still fun and made fortunes in ways which are all impossible now the doom and gloom is quite a thing. you cant miss something you didnt experience but it explains why so many ppl left
I've attempted to try Eve three times over the past 10 years. All attempts failed because I always assumed I would never 'catch up' to the seasoned multiyear players. This video has now given me the excitment to attempt a 4th attempt. Watch out!
Started playing in '09, left around '15 but am thinking of playing again - a lot to catch up on and re-learn but looking forward to it nad going on some NPSI roams. RvB Ganked nights were the best!
Hi, thanks for the nice video. I tried eve for a few months 6-7 years ago but couldn't get into it back then because the skill exp system didn't fit my playstyle. Today i reloaded the launcher and will give it a try bit later. Might start a new character for the tutorials and stuff because i have absolutely no memory how things worked and what has changed.
@@Ashterothi I watched a part of your returning player video, gotta check the rest today later. Also used your recruit code. Made a new character for ingame tutorials on how to even play the game :D
I wanted to get back into the game and watched your video first (which is absolutely amazing btw, very honest and useful tips in here, THANK YOU!) but the code is only usable to brandnew accounts and gives 1m skill points.
I was heditant at first as this is the first sub game ive seen with a 20 buck a month request. I dont regret it though. Im grtting way more of that plus more in a monthly value
Great video. There was one thing you said that was "technically" not accurate. You said that as an Alpha, you can only train up to 5 million SP. While it's true that using the training queue, you cap out at 5 million, you can use the daily gift skill point injectors and/or buy injectors and get an Alpha up to 20 million SP. I have both Omega and Alpha accounts and I have 1 Alpha at 20 million while the others are between 10 and 15 million. And YES, that's "useable" skill points. But other than that, very informative video.
I really try to specify that the passive training is capped at 5m. If I got it wrong here that is honestly surprising. Sorry :( There is ~21m skill points available to Alphas.
I have played 2 different times. Once before they brought the drone regions in that dropped minerals that i had to specialize skills for as a miner to get before that. It tanked the market and I left as I couldnt afford to play. then I got sucked back in when friends decided they wanted to play. then our new corp and members got griefed and ruined the fun as they learned the games. I started buying accounts then ended up with 12. However it became more like work. I have my carrier so that I can move my ships around. I had a rorqual several freighters etc. I did cut them back to 3 accounts with many solid characters on each. However Im still not sure if I would returrn. The thing i have ALWAYS disliked and disagreed with, is that we can be attacked anywhere. If I want to relax in empire running missions, I should be able to do so without worry that ill be attacked. If I want to run cargo in empire I should be able to do so. I dont expect to get rich. However if I want to relax and enjoy the game I should be able to do so. This is where elite dangerous did things right. It is by far the most beautiful game out there. Its an aspect I always enjoyed. Sometimes I would get lost looking at the scenery. I do miss the social aspect of when in a good corporation. sadly it was hard to find.
What ruined that game for me was the ganking. At one point i would get killed everyday and even gatecamped, and podded. Lost a lot of assets, and since i was a casual gamer i could not afford to keep replacing the ships i had. And i was not flying anything crazy either. All that happen in high sec too.
i remember back in 2009 or 2008 when i 1st played Eve and dont have money to plex my account. what i did is i created new account every 7 days and keep transfering my isk to the new account and then i got tired with ratting and mining with my cargo ship, i started begging for isk in Jita. people would sometimes give me 1 isk or 1mil isk and some gave me 3bill isk, all in all i beging income surpass 10billion isk HAHAHa.
The one thing I found after being gone for 10 years.. The players are easy pickings. As they lack the one skill needed to play. That of being ruthless and cruel. As the first thing you should learn in Eve is everybody wants your stuff. You keep that in the back of your head. You will survive. As nobody is your friend. Unless they live next door. That way if they screw you over. You know where to find them to kick their ass..
EVE would be awesome if everyone played 1 account. But after a certain time as a new player, you realise that everybody is just running 10-40 accounts simultaneously. That puts me off real hard, not interested in maintaining an army of alts.
One reason not to comeback is 20 dollars a month, is the game changer for me , there is no way coming back paying 400 dollars a year to play a 20 year old game, you guys are nuts!!!
If 20*12 = 400 for you, you probably shouldn't get into EVE. Excel in space requires better maths. If we are being serious, you can pay for omega some months, even if you don't farm enough for every month.
AND in case you didn't already know the games name stands for E veryone V erses E veryone Online. As for re-joining the game, not till I have built a new PC, and I won't be doing that till my post retirement jobs have been done, if it isn't this year it'll probably be next year.
EVE requires many hours of gameplay to be successful while engaged in whatever activity you're attracted to...don't kid anybody or yourself. Either you "get" PvP or you don't. You'll learn really quickly where you stand.
Eve Online is free to play, even with Omega. May not suit veterans, but you can still sub without real money. Just costs more than it used to in in-game currency
Started playing early 2007 and quit 2018. Think about the game from time to time and recently installed game again. Logged on once yesterday, and was like "do I want to start this again?" Still trying to decide.
Well I started EVE (and continue to play) since January 2004, 19 years ago. It's been an incredible experience and unlike any other game ... I've simply been here too long now to quit and will be here for the foreseeable future. Lots in the game I don’t do, nor understand, but it has become my online home and I love its richness, ups and downs. Long live New Eden. Fly safe all o/
Lugged my PC and two 21" CRTs over t a mate's place Dec 2004 to LAN WoW and he had Eve Online up an running. It looked sooo pretty and we apent three days pretty much straight with minimal sleep. I was hooked. Played for years and then gave it up when I was running 5 accounts on three computers and failing miserably. I really enjoyed Eve Radio and that english couple that used to do the raffles. Am tempted to jump back in...
I'm in, what do you need done, and how quickly can I level up to being useful? Also, who coordinates new players since I have a hunch that you're kinda busy, lol.
I've come back after a long time off. Its hard to get other miners to trust me. Most won't even start a conversation with me. I offer bonuses to cycle time and range, from my mining foreman. Nobody sticks around more than one day. So much for being a mining fleet in high sec.
I'm mega impress about this video .Really ,really good job and so passionate about Eve Online universe .Definitely i gonna back for and try .Thanks Ashterothi.
I want to play this game again so much but every time I log in and start moving towards Jita I end up closing the game after 2 jumps. Cant even make myself do a highsec mining run or some easy mission. I feel so lazy when I think about fitting a new ship and flying somewhere. Makes me feel like I can spend all evening doing all that boring stuff and get no fun out of it at all.
Played it for a while during 2021: what they called "scarcity" was really just to impoverish new players by making older assets far more valuable because it now takes WAY longer time to obtain the resources to build those same assets. Really just killing the fun for new players. Gave up after a while because progress beyond an initial stage was nearly impossible for newer players
Thats how ccp makes more money, but I wonder why, because they didn't add anything remarkable to the game. Maybe the head lead uses it for more expensive alcohol and hookers, who knows.
Thank you for this great video. It made me revisit EVE today and I do see a lot of visual improvements that are simply look stunning. One question remains for me, before I start to dive into the game again: How is it set for people that want to play in a MMO and multiplayer universe, but do not wish to get into corporations or groups but want to explore the universe as an independent player and grow within? Does this gameplay make sense with EVE or is the game mainly made for groups and guilds?
You can totally do a LOT of things solo. I have been playing mostly solo for the last 10 years. However many aspects of this game is better with a group. You can make a few friends too !
I loved Eve online, but I lost a fortune due to the devs actively reducing the price of something. I could handle losing money due to player economy, but that just wasn't fair. I lost about 30 billion isk.
well, if you want play eve for free you have to work like slave and no fun, it is like only a task that you do over and over like million to billions of times, after that you will understand you must repeat it again, ya it worse to play horaaaa
I don’t know if null sec is inherently anymore isk generating then some of highsec. You have incursions where you can make 1 billion plus a day on one account, as for mining it’s obviously not as profitable because almost all the minerals are available every where else. Mission running I hear is pretty profitable but I’ve never don’t it. And I get the idea that yeah once your in a null block it’s safe and whatever but that can be said for joining snuffed out in lowsec or deep water hooligans. I think that it’s all relative. People don’t want to take risk so they stay in highsec or move to a null block. But you have to realize your potential isk generating with the situation and play style you want to do. That’s just my take. Have a great day and fly safe o7
i heard a long time ago that CCP hired an educated economist to help manage and maintain the in game economy but I never verified if that was true or if they still have a person on the team like that anymore.
So I downloaded it (only 250Mb) and had a go. It is so freeeeekin frustrating I rage quit. My character bought 2 lazers and I flew about for about an hour and a half trying to find the station they were on. And I failed. Even with the help of the community I couldn't buy 2 little lazers for my little ship. You put in to the mini-menu "Set Destination" and they are not there?! Save yourselves grief and avoid this nightmare
Sorry it was confusing. I do have videos on the markets and such as well as fitting ships. If there is any help I can give to you in game let me know. If the game isn't for you that is one thing, but if you are just having trouble with basic interface I would be happy to help.
@@Ashterothi You encouraged and inspired m me to try again, and this time I got it! Then I spent just about the whole of Sunday having some of the best fun ever in a game. Thank you for helping me to try again
Hey all I came from Jin’taan lore video with our man here. I have a question about the corp, I wanna join after looking at the website the mining community seems right up my alley but I’m Minmatar does it matter? Do I need to make a new character? I will I just need to know
Yours is the classic misleading description of this game, that tricks newbies into too many assumptions that are either too optimistic or blatant lies. Sorry but it's the way it is. First: ALL the cool and *profitable* activities are either hard or soft locked to alpha clones. For free you just are NOT playing EVE. Sorry to disappoint people but you have to pay a monthly fee to actually play and enjoy this game. You can pay that fee with ingame money... well, yes, after quite several months of play, grinding like a slave and probably with the help of a few characters. All those memes and jokes about people leaving their normal lives for a mmo? If you want to pay your subscription with ingame money that's what you'll have to do. I'm THREE minutes into the video, I won't keep refuting the rest of it but I can see how it will probably have the same vibes... And the problem with that is people start playing with absurd expectations and they get very disappointed when they see the actual truth. EVE has been one of the best videogames ever made, and you probably can have a ton of fun nowadays (for a considerable amount of money), but in a nutshell it's a game ruled and controlled by LITERALLY a bunch of guys who've been playing for a decade, and who do and undo as they see fit, often with the help of the devs, and leading alliances where most people have literally a dozen characters... half or most of which are bots.
We have plenty of people join our group and find success both as Alphas and Omegas. Alphas do rely on teamwork a lot more than Omegas need to for sure.
+ some advice - three reasons to get into a game should not be a 1 hour stream ramble. Not even going to watch this, which admittedly, means i might be missing out on good info which I would have liked, but for the format.
does eve finally have auto-retaliation? AKA fire back when being attacked? in-game item scripting (turn on reppers if certain conditions met, auto-warp to and dock at station if certain conditions met, ...)?
I played Eve for a long time, started in 2005. The game was great for about 10 years, then they started nerfing the game and destroyed my enjoyment of the game. Add in all the assholes and it just wasn't what I wanted to do. I am glad you enjoy the experience, I have considered rejoining, but there is too much cancel culture to make it work my time.
The global nature of EVE is something most overlook. I'm a redneck from southern USA and I've spent hours getting drunk and accomplishing real goals in the middle of the night with a bunch of German and Irish lads. Learning cultures I never would without EVE and forming bonds with these duders that go beyond race or language barriers.
Based but also cringe
I love this story. Got any room for a Chicago city boy/Denver transplant?
@@jamesmoriarty7796 Always, strong alliances have a core 24/7 so you'll have plenty of folks in whatever timezone you play in.
Same. Great talking to other people across the world
@@OmniDan26how is it cringe?
I found your description of Eve as a ''real'' RPG very inspirational. I'm back after a two year absence after trying No Man's Sky and Elite: Dangerous and found they couldn't scratch the itch that Eve gives you. I started in 2004 (Eve was on sale on a disc lol) and stuck with it for many years, learning new stuff all the time. I missed scarcity and the blackout so I suppose I was lucky but when I returned my ships could fetch astronomical prices if I wished to sell them (several of which I did to pad my wallet). The most enjoyable aspect I've found as a hi-sec industrialist is that I can make hundreds of millions of ISK every week using only my alts working Planetary Management. It seems to be the one area CCP haven't nerfed (fingers crossed). If I decide to sell my soul to a nullsec corp I'm free to do it and, with CVA moving back into Providence, I just might. So yes, I'm a 19 year old character who's a carebear nowadays, but the options are still there. Thanks Ashterothi for a great inducement-to-play video.
Glad I could help :D
I used to play Eve way back in the early days. I haven't played since 2008ish. Your video has sold me on jumping back in again. I've been so burnt out on the stuff that passes for MMOs these days and I'd pretty much forgotten Eve even exists. Thank you for reigniting my interest! Can't wait to dive back in now!
I remember the days of old, when Eve was the best MMO. Back in 2007 when I had my first toon. I have no idea what this game looks like today, but it took almost 10 years of my life. I do not regret a single SECOND of that time.... Thank you CCP
Been playing since 06. From then to about 2012 I played daily. Then I played only a few months a year. But I returned recently and have loved every second of it. The time training payed off as being a newbro now would be terrible.
It's better than ever and getting better imo. It could be that I'm no longer in the poor tax bracket and the doors have opened for many many things. Been multiboxing hard-core since 2018 and idk, the game is the best. I think only so if you can plex yourself without stress.
its still about the mates ..if yours are like mine they have moved on . but when I started back in 2006 ,I did it right and found friends right out of the chute. we played about 2 -3 years and I left due to the great recession . taking the corp/alliance activity on zkill there seems to be a mass falling away from 2011 to 2016. its still eve ....but if you come back you are going to be feeling a bit old/noob , very strange. it really is beautiful
@@anthonyzullo being a returnbro nowadays is just expensive lol... Gotta keep pumping them injectors
10 years nice , i played 2 days and realised i am playing a building box game and shooting at 2 red dots
Man I remember 2011-2013. I was there, running recon+dictors day in day out. I was fucking there.
The information you share, and your style of sharing it, does more to demystify Eve than anything else I've seen or read. Thank you.
Everyone should just make an eve online character and start training it. Even if you never think youll play the game. If you eventually decide to play, youll be happy you started training.
Truth
At first I was like 1 hour!? dude wtf! but then I remembered how I go on and on to a friend about EvE and not notice how 2 hours have passed and I still have about 10 hours more to speak about... So in that sense I could say this is quite a nice summary of what the game actually is! Thanx mate 💙
Really, really good content Ash. As someone who has been playing for 17+ years, I still found this interesting. Here's to the third decade.
learning skills ey?
Is it fun to play without friends? Since I was young I was drawn to EVE online but seeing how hard/time consuming it is I always thought it was never worth it.
About "real life" aspect of EVE. I'm from Russia, so you know...politics and stuff... Recently we had a talk from our corp leadership to share IRL contacts with corpmates that live in nearby cities/regions. "Just in case" as they said, cause its unstable times and who knows what can happen. And I'm sure if I would need to move myself and my family, I would easily find at least a dozen of places where I will find support from the people I play with. Almost no other game gives bonds this strong.
I am glad you have resources to seek help and comfort in such troubling times
A good, if not the best video for anyone new or looking to play Eve Online. Just covers so much.
Could we get a “top unsolved mysteries of eve online” video from you if you feel that’s good content? Love all the work you out out❤
That is actually on my list!
Like the way you approach this for nembies its so practical. Im 77 years old and its kind of laughable and my age but am looking to supplement some of my free time and not rush into this overnite so to speak. Keep up the good work. W6DLB station.
Becoming an FC, alliance Council member and general spacenerd has literally given me the confidence that is required in my career today. It also gave me lifelong friendships and helped me through some very tough years. I will always love eve and it's always going to be "the game I wish I wanted to play" until I do again. ❤
Must be nice. Most people are unwilling to fly with me.
I like it being described as a hobby more than a typical game. That is so true. Taking breaks is also a great tip. I'll go play a new game, like Cyberpunk 2077 for a month or two, then come back and I've trained a bunch of stuff.
be glad theres a skill cue. I started playing when there wasnt. You trained the skill you were on, set an alarm to switch it or would switch to another skill until I was able to get it to complete when I was home. It was rough.
Well you sold me dude. I am back. Watched this video a bit ago and now flying around killing bot Ventures in a rifter.
Ash, fan of your content and empyreans. Cheers!
The videos that are needed to grow the community and player base are:
Bite size (5 min or so) videos covering newb topics like:
1) how to clear the tutorial missions
2) how to set up your HUD screen optimally
3) ship control basics
4). Basic intro to career paths
5 min videos are clippble/ shareable and no one in eve universe is doing them.
The things that keep new players from eve aren’t big questions, they’re actually really really small. Like: how do I outfit a ship that shoots? How do I shoot stuff?
I know that sounds basic, but that’s what it is. The HUD is incredibly confusing and overwhelming, and little vids to help people along would be a huge help.
I came back a cpl of weeks ago and did the Tutori. IT Shows most things now. What keeps players out is that while being visually stunnung theres No Direct Control No pew pew.
I actually got a job for a member of my EVE corp at the company I worked for then, and where he is now a member of the management team and celebrated his 10 years jubilee a few years ago.
I was aaaaalways flirting with Eve but never made the step to join it for various reasons, one being much too much stuff to learn for a "feeled" low action.
The older I grow no the more attractive Eve gets and I finally started playing in December now.
First thing I thought after 1 week was the same you mentioned in the video "I wish I wouldve started earlier" ^^ So ye totally true video and btw. I love your content
I played eve for just a few months a couple of years back and stopped because my corp fell apart. But i just came back again last month and its like falling in love all over again. I cant believe this game is still around but god damn am i happy it is. The eve community is truly unique.
I have had downloaded for some time in my pc but yes u are right, now is the time to start. Thank you for the video
Good video man!
I started 2006 and played for many years, perhaps its time to come back
I'm also playing since 2010, with quite a bit of time off. I am thinking about coming back though, if even just for a little messing around in some pve or something. I've resubbed one account so far.
The ability to use in-game Currency to extend your Omega time is the SOLE reason Eve has kept me for 2 decades. My only complaint with eve is CCP's laser focus on continuing to empower alliances with extra perks others are not allowed to have; the very people who need it least get the most. This skewing promotes a dozen massive blob alliances allowing them to control everything, which I still strongly believe stifles the true potential of the game and has kept them capped for many years.
Hi! Im an old solo carebear (2010). Quitted EvE because even half hour of mission grind/day to sustain Omega status was too boring. Now im considering to play Alfa whenever I choose, to build some isk without "monkey on my back". Never being pvp player (im too soft), but i will try to play it with solo frigates. Grinding for Omega is a biggest turn-off for me. Not being able to drive a Golem without it, or play with planets for example. Too many restrictions to be able to enjoy it fully. Ty for the video and reignited desire to play!
One thing that keeps me from really getting into the game is how ISK is purchasable for a very low amount of money vs. the hours of in game grinding it requires. It kills any motivation to try to earn ISK in game for me, and it being such a central part of your progress (skills, ships, items, basically everything), it’s kind of demotivating.
Its not like other games, you can buy isk, put milliards and lose it all in couple days/hours if you dont know what you are doing.
Difference between EVE from other MMO's is, ISK means nothing, You can buy most expensive ship out there, you dock out and you die by Alpha 10+ gank of newbies :D while in other mmorpg you buy best gear and rip everyone in shreds, not here, not in EVE.
Eve is a game you play in the background of you're main game when you 1st start out. I just joined Eve as a new player on my 2n week and I can 100% agree that you are better off takeing slow and just work on skill on 2-3 toon/Acc, log in every 2-3 days do something here and there, but it a pick up and put down game when starting. I play it on the side when im Streaming my Main game or doing some work at home. I love it
I will say that I wish i started sooner and just worked on skills, but even if I did not, this give me time to learn how to do all the stuff in the game..well try lol AND give me time to learn how to make ISK and farm so when i have the skills learned i can build/Buy the new toks to loos 5min later ^^ hehe
You've convinced me. Fire up the time machine im going back to 2023.
Awesome video! I played a lot from 2010-13 and have been back for a couple of times but never for very long. I do miss it even though I never was especially good at the game. I would like to get back into the game at some point and I like the idea of going solo and maybe get into smaller fights. I would love to do other stuff too but this is my first priority. What would you suggest to get the best experience for that kind of gameplay? I'm stationed somewhere in high-sec right now, but close to low-sec. I'm pretty skilled up and cashed up so loosing ships shouldn't be too painful. 😀
what im really facinated about when it comes to this game, is that even i only started getting serious about industry and actually "getting rich" bit over a year ago, it dident take long before i as a lonly industrialist actaully could make an quite noticable impact on the Jita marked.
allso there is a huge difference in beginner experince for people that managed to get dragged stright into newbie friendly corp vs people that fly around alone for maby months before they realize what a corp actually are and how importent they are. when i joined the game, took me couple of months atleast before joining a corp, and i wasted alot of time and effort trying to figure out stuff on my own, and it was rather painfull. in comparison my corp not long ago recruited couple of people that was brand new to the game, and we could help them getting most importent skills first right away, getting them going with some better ships, startup funds and boosting their experience from the start, and kinda have them jump over the slow booring start game can be...
So tempting to jump back in my pod…
Spoiler alert…I have! 😂
ACCOUNT SUCCESSFULLY RECRUITED.... Your passion for the game is undeniable.
been playing happily for the last three years as an alpha and without a null corp or a skill injector. enjoying the game just fine - through ever emptying skies. we even have new youtube personalities saying they've never seen gankers. you're still preaching the pearl abyss company line and we're still waiting for the in-game prosperity you assured us all the company was going to give us throughout scarcity, et al. game IS great despite the money-sucking efforts of the suits...
So how is the ganker situation nowadays? The last time I played any new corpo was almost immediately ganked to hell and back which drained a lot of new players. There was no way to grow back then because pretty much as soon as you got more than 4 members you were declared war on by multiple other corpos and were thus locked to high sec meaning the corpo couldn't grow. We even tried to organize with other new corpos to get guarded conveys going but they had the same problems and all it did was expand the war fronts and increase the new player drain even further. So after about a year of mostly no progress I just gave up and played something else instead. Sad thing is I really liked the industrial gameplay side of things .. well at least the parts I could access without running into the war wall 😮💨
You should become a part of an alliance, even a perfunctory one. It just costs more to declare war.
To me those first months, when we were constantly wardeced were the most fun. To lose first ships, to learn how to fly - majestic.
In every game I treat ex EVE players like brothers. There are players, gamer's and then there are EVE players.
Eve is a game of alts. You can easily have 1 or 2 accounts of alpha clone alts you are training for various things, or just having combat alts. then you can pay for omega on an account and make it your main, and focus on the paid skills training and the main things you want to do at the highest level
"It does have a tendency to suck you in" yes... yes it does. I started about a month ago and I cannot stop playing. Mainly doing expo in a heron and some easy ratting, but having so much fun. I have like 2 years worth of skills training though the order is constantly changing with what I want to do. Wish I played this game years ago, it's amazing.
I started in 2008 and came back several times. First time I quit I failed on a contract and gave all my stuff away. Woops! Last time I came back I warped into triglavian space in a freighter and even got podded.
This time im sure to seek out information on game changing events! Dont feel like getting podded because warp core stabs arent a thing anymore. This game with all its changes is awesome.
Still want to walk around in station tough!
TBH that doom and gloom 6 months ago or so got me to log back in. I have been having a lot of fun, I am approaching 30 mil skill points so its really nice being able to do lots of dif content and I have never even gotten into the pvp side of things too much. I think one of the big reasons eve has suffered numbers wise is lack of content updates over the pandemic. The game is the best MMO out there, the sandbox aspect of eve is simply amazing.
you're not wrong, but from the perspective of someone who played for ages and has done most content when it was still fun and made fortunes in ways which are all impossible now the doom and gloom is quite a thing. you cant miss something you didnt experience but it explains why so many ppl left
Old account confirming I got the 1m skill points. I had eve running, clicked the link, logged in and then in game had a 1m SP redemption offer.
I've attempted to try Eve three times over the past 10 years. All attempts failed because I always assumed I would never 'catch up' to the seasoned multiyear players. This video has now given me the excitment to attempt a 4th attempt. Watch out!
Started playing in '09, left around '15 but am thinking of playing again - a lot to catch up on and re-learn but looking forward to it nad going on some NPSI roams. RvB Ganked nights were the best!
Hi, thanks for the nice video. I tried eve for a few months 6-7 years ago but couldn't get into it back then because the skill exp system didn't fit my playstyle. Today i reloaded the launcher and will give it a try bit later. Might start a new character for the tutorials and stuff because i have absolutely no memory how things worked and what has changed.
I have a video for that :D
@@Ashterothi I watched a part of your returning player video, gotta check the rest today later. Also used your recruit code. Made a new character for ingame tutorials on how to even play the game :D
I wanted to get back into the game and watched your video first (which is absolutely amazing btw, very honest and useful tips in here, THANK YOU!) but the code is only usable to brandnew accounts and gives 1m skill points.
Incidentally you are a great spokesmen for the game and I appreciate all the content you provide and reveal
Thanks! I appreciate the support
Gunaj here. That was a really nice fookin video!
Glad you liked it!
What's the is difference between EVE and Elite Dangerous ?
I was heditant at first as this is the first sub game ive seen with a 20 buck a month request. I dont regret it though. Im grtting way more of that plus more in a monthly value
Great video. There was one thing you said that was "technically" not accurate. You said that as an Alpha, you can only train up to 5 million SP. While it's true that using the training queue, you cap out at 5 million, you can use the daily gift skill point injectors and/or buy injectors and get an Alpha up to 20 million SP. I have both Omega and Alpha accounts and I have 1 Alpha at 20 million while the others are between 10 and 15 million. And YES, that's "useable" skill points.
But other than that, very informative video.
I really try to specify that the passive training is capped at 5m. If I got it wrong here that is honestly surprising. Sorry :(
There is ~21m skill points available to Alphas.
I have played 2 different times. Once before they brought the drone regions in that dropped minerals that i had to specialize skills for as a miner to get before that. It tanked the market and I left as I couldnt afford to play. then I got sucked back in when friends decided they wanted to play. then our new corp and members got griefed and ruined the fun as they learned the games. I started buying accounts then ended up with 12. However it became more like work. I have my carrier so that I can move my ships around. I had a rorqual several freighters etc. I did cut them back to 3 accounts with many solid characters on each. However Im still not sure if I would returrn.
The thing i have ALWAYS disliked and disagreed with, is that we can be attacked anywhere. If I want to relax in empire running missions, I should be able to do so without worry that ill be attacked. If I want to run cargo in empire I should be able to do so. I dont expect to get rich. However if I want to relax and enjoy the game I should be able to do so. This is where elite dangerous did things right.
It is by far the most beautiful game out there. Its an aspect I always enjoyed. Sometimes I would get lost looking at the scenery. I do miss the social aspect of when in a good corporation. sadly it was hard to find.
"The negative things you've heard aren't true"
What ruined that game for me was the ganking. At one point i would get killed everyday and even gatecamped, and podded. Lost a lot of assets, and since i was a casual gamer i could not afford to keep replacing the ships i had. And i was not flying anything crazy either. All that happen in high sec too.
i remember back in 2009 or 2008 when i 1st played Eve and dont have money to plex my account. what i did is i created new account every 7 days and keep transfering my isk to the new account and then i got tired with ratting and mining with my cargo ship, i started begging for isk in Jita. people would sometimes give me 1 isk or 1mil isk and some gave me 3bill isk, all in all i beging income surpass 10billion isk HAHAHa.
Well played :D
I care more about the player histories than any game lore tbh. i love the lore that the playerbase makes.
Ccp wanted scarcity because increasing prices in game also increased plex sales.
The one thing I found after being gone for 10 years.. The players are easy pickings. As they lack the one skill needed to play. That of being ruthless and cruel. As the first thing you should learn in Eve is everybody wants your stuff.
You keep that in the back of your head. You will survive. As nobody is your friend. Unless they live next door. That way if they screw you over. You know where to find them to kick their ass..
EVE would be awesome if everyone played 1 account. But after a certain time as a new player, you realise that everybody is just running 10-40 accounts simultaneously. That puts me off real hard, not interested in maintaining an army of alts.
One reason not to comeback is 20 dollars a month, is the game changer for me , there is no way coming back paying 400 dollars a year to play a 20 year old game, you guys are nuts!!!
If 20*12 = 400 for you, you probably shouldn't get into EVE. Excel in space requires better maths.
If we are being serious, you can pay for omega some months, even if you don't farm enough for every month.
AND in case you didn't already know the games name stands for E veryone V erses E veryone Online. As for re-joining the game, not till I have built a new PC, and I won't be doing that till my post retirement jobs have been done, if it isn't this year it'll probably be next year.
1st Day back after 2 years of pause. Got ganked twice on gate camp in just 2 hours of playing. EVE is still same EVE I left in 2021
EVE requires many hours of gameplay to be successful while engaged in whatever activity you're attracted to...don't kid anybody or yourself. Either you "get" PvP or you don't. You'll learn really quickly where you stand.
Thx for the SP bro! I just returned from a five year absence. Initially started playing in 2008.
so is there a character mapper like evemon? It was very useful and helpful but i understand its defunct now with various changes.
Great video! Thank you!
Amazing video!
Eve Online is free to play, even with Omega. May not suit veterans, but you can still sub without real money. Just costs more than it used to in in-game currency
Started playing early 2007 and quit 2018. Think about the game from time to time and recently installed game again. Logged on once yesterday, and was like "do I want to start this again?" Still trying to decide.
i played 2 days it scks , building box game , attach pieces to make your ship and fight at 2 red dots
Well I started EVE (and continue to play) since January 2004, 19 years ago. It's been an incredible experience and unlike any other game ... I've simply been here too long now to quit and will be here for the foreseeable future.
Lots in the game I don’t do, nor understand, but it has become my online home and I love its richness, ups and downs. Long live New Eden.
Fly safe all o/
o7
Lugged my PC and two 21" CRTs over t a mate's place Dec 2004 to LAN WoW and he had Eve Online up an running. It looked sooo pretty and we apent three days pretty much straight with minimal sleep. I was hooked. Played for years and then gave it up when I was running 5 accounts on three computers and failing miserably.
I really enjoyed Eve Radio and that english couple that used to do the raffles.
Am tempted to jump back in...
have come back YEARS after leaving due to just not picking it up and I can agree 100% they have made the starting experience so much better
I'm in, what do you need done, and how quickly can I level up to being useful? Also, who coordinates new players since I have a hunch that you're kinda busy, lol.
The Convocation of Empyreans can certainly help you :D Just hop on our discord
Well I have been playing 18 years now and I still love it 😀 in game name ZOOR
I've been gone for 10 years but came back a couple days ago. Started a new character because I forgot how to play.
39:57 Blood pressure immediately went up 20 points..
I've come back after a long time off. Its hard to get other miners to trust me. Most won't even start a conversation with me. I offer bonuses to cycle time and range, from my mining foreman. Nobody sticks around more than one day. So much for being a mining fleet in high sec.
I'm mega impress about this video .Really ,really good job and so passionate about Eve Online universe .Definitely i gonna back for and try .Thanks Ashterothi.
What is the dps at the left, which mod is it? Or is it ingame
I want to play this game again so much but every time I log in and start moving towards Jita I end up closing the game after 2 jumps. Cant even make myself do a highsec mining run or some easy mission. I feel so lazy when I think about fitting a new ship and flying somewhere. Makes me feel like I can spend all evening doing all that boring stuff and get no fun out of it at all.
you sold me on the "sheep chips"
Played it for a while during 2021: what they called "scarcity" was really just to impoverish new players by making older assets far more valuable because it now takes WAY longer time to obtain the resources to build those same assets. Really just killing the fun for new players. Gave up after a while because progress beyond an initial stage was nearly impossible for newer players
Thats how ccp makes more money, but I wonder why, because they didn't add anything remarkable to the game.
Maybe the head lead uses it for more expensive alcohol and hookers, who knows.
Hey that's my golem!
good videos I am using your code thanks
o7
Thank you for this great video. It made me revisit EVE today and I do see a lot of visual improvements that are simply look stunning. One question remains for me, before I start to dive into the game again: How is it set for people that want to play in a MMO and multiplayer universe, but do not wish to get into corporations or groups but want to explore the universe as an independent player and grow within? Does this gameplay make sense with EVE or is the game mainly made for groups and guilds?
im asking the same thing
You can totally do a LOT of things solo. I have been playing mostly solo for the last 10 years. However many aspects of this game is better with a group. You can make a few friends too !
Still o7 this game for life❤❤❤❤❤
Loved the blackout, but then again, I was living in a C4 at that moment so it was fun.
Great job! Any Amarr connections. Love to connect with you. But as a Amarr guy I would not fit it.
Great video and overview/introduction! 😀Also real nice editing! 👍
Thanks! That means a lot!
The main role in EvE online is F1 monkey:D That who all the capsuleers really are:D
I loved Eve online, but I lost a fortune due to the devs actively reducing the price of something. I could handle losing money due to player economy, but that just wasn't fair. I lost about 30 billion isk.
well, if you want play eve for free you have to work like slave and no fun, it is like only a task that you do over and over like million to billions of times, after that you will understand you must repeat it again, ya it worse to play horaaaa
I don’t know if null sec is inherently anymore isk generating then some of highsec. You have incursions where you can make 1 billion plus a day on one account, as for mining it’s obviously not as profitable because almost all the minerals are available every where else. Mission running I hear is pretty profitable but I’ve never don’t it. And I get the idea that yeah once your in a null block it’s safe and whatever but that can be said for joining snuffed out in lowsec or deep water hooligans. I think that it’s all relative. People don’t want to take risk so they stay in highsec or move to a null block. But you have to realize your potential isk generating with the situation and play style you want to do. That’s just my take. Have a great day and fly safe o7
Highsec can make more isk than nullsec. Coordination with others, expensive equipment, and dangerous conditions all increase the value of an activity.
i heard a long time ago that CCP hired an educated economist to help manage and maintain the in game economy but I never verified if that was true or if they still have a person on the team like that anymore.
Once upon a time there was. However he moved on to work at the University in Iceland.
So I downloaded it (only 250Mb) and had a go. It is so freeeeekin frustrating I rage quit. My character bought 2 lazers and I flew about for about an hour and a half trying to find the station they were on. And I failed. Even with the help of the community I couldn't buy 2 little lazers for my little ship. You put in to the mini-menu "Set Destination" and they are not there?! Save yourselves grief and avoid this nightmare
Sorry it was confusing. I do have videos on the markets and such as well as fitting ships. If there is any help I can give to you in game let me know. If the game isn't for you that is one thing, but if you are just having trouble with basic interface I would be happy to help.
@@Ashterothi You encouraged and inspired m me to try again, and this time I got it! Then I spent just about the whole of Sunday having some of the best fun ever in a game. Thank you for helping me to try again
Hey all I came from Jin’taan lore video with our man here. I have a question about the corp, I wanna join after looking at the website the mining community seems right up my alley but I’m Minmatar does it matter? Do I need to make a new character? I will I just need to know
Starting race does not matter. You can fly/work for whomever you want.
Yours is the classic misleading description of this game, that tricks newbies into too many assumptions that are either too optimistic or blatant lies. Sorry but it's the way it is.
First: ALL the cool and *profitable* activities are either hard or soft locked to alpha clones. For free you just are NOT playing EVE. Sorry to disappoint people but you have to pay a monthly fee to actually play and enjoy this game.
You can pay that fee with ingame money... well, yes, after quite several months of play, grinding like a slave and probably with the help of a few characters. All those memes and jokes about people leaving their normal lives for a mmo? If you want to pay your subscription with ingame money that's what you'll have to do.
I'm THREE minutes into the video, I won't keep refuting the rest of it but I can see how it will probably have the same vibes... And the problem with that is people start playing with absurd expectations and they get very disappointed when they see the actual truth.
EVE has been one of the best videogames ever made, and you probably can have a ton of fun nowadays (for a considerable amount of money), but in a nutshell it's a game ruled and controlled by LITERALLY a bunch of guys who've been playing for a decade, and who do and undo as they see fit, often with the help of the devs, and leading alliances where most people have literally a dozen characters... half or most of which are bots.
We have plenty of people join our group and find success both as Alphas and Omegas. Alphas do rely on teamwork a lot more than Omegas need to for sure.
+ some advice - three reasons to get into a game should not be a 1 hour stream ramble. Not even going to watch this, which admittedly, means i might be missing out on good info which I would have liked, but for the format.
does eve finally have auto-retaliation? AKA fire back when being attacked? in-game item scripting (turn on reppers if certain conditions met, auto-warp to and dock at station if certain conditions met, ...)?
Nope
I’m alpha for life and have a great time , I’ve got nearly 15 million sp and take part in all aspects of this amazing free to play game
nicely done, bro.
Never done faction warfare... Haven't decided which one of my alts is best suited for it :P
Which is better Eve Online or Star Citizen? Star Citizen looks amazing.
Well EVE Online is an actual game so....
I played Eve for a long time, started in 2005. The game was great for about 10 years, then they started nerfing the game and destroyed my enjoyment of the game. Add in all the assholes and it just wasn't what I wanted to do. I am glad you enjoy the experience, I have considered rejoining, but there is too much cancel culture to make it work my time.