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Rob Guest is joined by Alasdair Gold AND Lee Wilmot in the latest episode of Gold and Guest Talk Tottenham
They discuss the reaction to Spurs' loss to Man City, Bryan Gil, where next for Spurs and much more!
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What a refreshing listen after the last couple of days.
After watching the likes of WeAreTottenham & Brian Degul carry on like petulant kids, it's good to listen to 3 adults address the issue in a mature way.
Agreed 🤝
What did they say on those shows
@@boipink Basically writing Postecoglou off. Insinuating he's to blame for this & trying to deflect because they're copping heat for the way they carried on.
Pretty ordinary stuff.
I agree. Brian and the Siblings have really grown this Season. Daniel Levy OUT. Ange Impostercoglu is a Fraud .
thank you. starting this, i was hesitant. i was watching the stream, tried listening to wearetottenhamtv & expressions during the break to save me from the reddit live chat (never going in there again) & i couldn't believe what i was reading/hearing. it was such a weird game.
but outside of that, seeing the fans get angry & ange & calling for ange out & taking offense that had that response was just the most i've ever been embarrassed as a supporter.
i know the players will do what they need to do, but lord, they didn't have much help from any of us.
Thanks Ali for saying what needs to be said, "I could never cheer on an opponent seeking to beat my team (in any circumstances)". If Ange needs to placate that type of fan, then he will realize Spurs are not the team he believed they were. 60 years of supporting Spurs through thick and thin! COS and as ever, great program!
Hi guys, I must have been one of the few people urging on my team from where I was in the south stand, I couldn’t want my team to lose, I felt very deflated by the result at the end.
Staff members behind the scenes who interact with the players every day joking or serious have a detrimental impact and will need to either change their attitude or expect to be replaced just like some of the players who will also be removed. We are not a small club, we’re a big club with big ambitions and those who aren’t with us are against us and need to go elsewhere. From this point on, I’m only concerned about Spurs and no other club. That’s how the big winning clubs and their fans tend to behave by focusing on winning, not obsessing over what rivals are doing. O’Hara wearing a MC shirt actively cheering for them was a complete embarrassment. COYS! Only COYS!
Premier League Place is decided by the results of 38 games NOT one. Stupid so called fans. I've been a Spurs fan for over 60 years, rain or shine. We have a manager who really cares. We just have to beat the other team, regardless of identity, simple really init. COYS.
It isn’t about 4th…. If you don’t get that, then you don’t understand what a winners mentality is about - you don’t give up the chance to win even when you are being stamped on.
The reason we have failed is down to the owners past and present! The early 70’s and 80’s teams particularly just needed a bit of investment to improve the squad to challenge for the league title but the owners wouldn’t do it. Even Harry Redknapp’s team just needed a couple of quality players but Levy went and a got couple of players, one who was injury prone and one who was past it! That’s the culture that needs to be changed if we are ever going to succeed again?
It’s more interesting when there are three of you. Keep doing it please!
💯 %…
I personally would like to see those that work for the club that had that attitude and voiced it or in any way demonstrated it-sacked
Spot On...Alasdair.
(Spoken opinion between 28/31 minutes)
Let'e move on.....Get behind Ange.
Interesting to listen to his pre match press conference again before the match. You can pretty safely assume his pep talk to the players from that leading up to the match was something like this is all blown out of proportion from the media and Twitter but once we're in the stadium and we give the fans something to cheer about, they'll be right behind us and create a raucous atmosphere. I think it really shocked him this was not the case. He said after the match that maybe he misread the situation and he needs to go back to the drawing board. I think this refers to using the fans as motivation as this seems to be fundamental to his motivation. I wanted the team to do well but this was a no win situation for the fans. Carragher was the only one who nailed it pre match: the fans will be behind the team (as 99.9999% were apart from about 5 who shamed themselves - the 2 doing the Poznan, and the 3 ejected) but the fans were never going to carry the team over the line in this match, as there was too much jeopardy - especially in the case of a draw which would be meaningless to Spurs and represent a 90% swing in Arsenals favour to win the league. I'm quite surprised Ange who has been note perfect up until the last month didn't really grasp this. Anyways, onwards and upwards hopefully, thank god that's over and I remain an absolute Ange zealot. Something special is coming with this manager if we stick with him. COYS
100% behind you all the way
I'm fully Ange IN, but I think over the last 3 months, he has unintentionally convinced the fans that the top 4 race doesn't matter, and what matters is the long-term project. Which meant that the result against City, according to him, doesn't really matter as long as we are playing our football.
Sorry, I’m not a Spurs fan but this makes no sense. If the fans got behind Spurs 100% to win the game, it would almost have guaranteed Champions League as you must beat Sheffield United every day of the week. Any game is winnable at home with fans behind you. So the poor Spurs players did not have that lift and energy from the fans and now you will never know. The only thing you will know is that you didn’t support Ange and the team properly and you are forever disgraced as a supporter base. Also, this is not a one off - what if Arsenal are in second place again next year and 2 or 3 other teams are in contention?
We shouldn't care what Arsenal do. Certainly not more than what our team is doing.
@@joaoascencao575what he said was if we measure success by getting fourth then might as well call it quits we want to win titles and cups not try and get fourth
Fans commenting on recent result simply don't get what a rebuild is - it's big changes to the squad and big changes to how the team plays, which inherently causes inconsistency in performance. As Ali said, Ange wasn't happy about it either, and if people actually listened to what Ange said after certain matches they'd know this as well. Losing arguably the best striker in the world and undergoing all that change and yet still improving to 5th - some perspective is needed from some quarters.
Great Podcast as always. The only thing that confused me as Lee said was inside the club. I really don’t think any player, Levy, or anyone of significance would want to lose that game.
Players post match interview and game performance clearly showed they wanted to win. Levy wants CL he doesn’t lose sleep thinking about Arsenal. I would agree with you Ali that it’s just jokes from random staffers…
Arsenal cost themselves the title and us Champs league by losing to Villa twice this season
Spurs fans and Spurs employees, joking or serious about the team not trying to win the game against Man City, is anathema to Ange, and goes against his winning mentality. Spurs employeees should no better. Their professional responsibility is to try to help the Club move forward, and not let rivalry influence or divert them from what is morally right in such an invidious situation. I fully understand Ange's anger. COYS.
It undermines the integrity of our club!
I’m 😊😊😊😊😊
Coys! I'm with Ange on this one. He is calling out the small club mentality on the inside and outside of the club.
I echo your sentiments. As Spurs supporters I think we should prioritise our team and only have rivalries as a secondary.
X go spurs
ALI WE NEED LEVY TO BACK THIS MANAGER CAUSE IF HE WALKS ITS ANOTHER 20 YEARS BEHIND
For sure the fans are entitled to their opinions doesn’t mean they’re right. Me I don’t understand that mentality. I don’t care what happens to the ratbags down the road. It’s just wrong. Thanks guys.
I enjoy Wilmot's inclusion into the pod. Hope to see him join you guys now often!
why?
Listen up traitors. Ange made it clear he wouldn't settle for 4th. He wanted 1st. You cant use that as an excuse for wanting your club to lose.
Think about what you just wrote: "Ange wouldn't settle for 4th he wanted 1st" and has attained 5th or most likely 6th.......... WTAF are you going on about? people on crack make more sense.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Postecoglou's priority is winning & the team so having fans cheering against them isn't good for morale. I think it's deeper than people are suggesting though as I reckon Levy has done his old "get fourth place or I don't give you the necessary funds" routine on Ange.
Ange told us he could not care less about top 4, his media work is all over the place !
@@TooDarnSoulful I didn't say Ange, I said Levy as he's got a track record of doing it.
That's also not quite what Ange has said, what he was getting at is that Top 4 doesn't necessarily mean that the team is at that level which is why it doesn't matter because it doesn't mean the team is at that point & Champions League for a team not ready to juggle to it with the Premier League will just go downhill.
I think what Ange has said about top 4 has been taken out of context. It's not that he doesn't want it just that he has higher goals and wants to be competing for the league. Of course he wants to finish as high as he can but his aim is the top as just getting top four is not something we should aim for.
Shame on them.
Ange wants to be a real challenger in the champions league not just a participant
The concept of actively wanting your team to lose just to spite your rival is foreign to many watching from afar.
And to feel like that because of “Bragging Rights” and the teasing that comes with it is embarrassing to view.
In Australia we have rivalry’s that are as passionate as this in place longer but no proper supporter could ever hope their club would bend over for any team and the thought of it is sickening.
You wear the pain and crap from your work home club school etc plus the media and online rubbish etc and aim to beat those bastards next game.
We also don’t subscribe to the oh it’s only just this one game it doesn’t really matter line of thinking either.
You play to win at all times and once you break the barrier you are gone.
Supporters might not mind certain losses but to actively want one prior to a game for your own club is kind of unheard of.
I thought schadenfreude was German in origin.
This isnt oz though geez, this is britain, this is how some of us feel, sod off if you dont like it
@@rickytiago3892 Your league wants the income and support from the rest of the world but some of you fans just want to keep it local Well that’s great in theory but it’s not that localised anymore.
Being proud of actively wanting your team to lose is bizarre.
Here’s a thought how about Spurs start actually winning things so your neighbours won’t tease you.
The existing mindset is miserable and malignant.
Sat in our usual seats in the South stand nobody near us was chanting for Man City or doing the poznan when they scored, plenty of anti Arsenal songs as expected, 100 % behind Ange but when he says all he wants is to win then don't pick a second string team in the Caraboa Cup, also when we are conceding set piece after set piece game after game don't be too stubborn to admit it's an issue especially when fans have had 10 hour trips driving to St James Park and Anfield to watch it keep happening week after week let fans know its being addressed, The media have loved a good ole bit of shit stirring when Spurs were in a no win situation really, win and laughed at for handing it to Arsenal lose and 'Spursy' for not showing up, as it was we showed up played well and a few brain dead sitting near Ange caused him to blow his top. Ange is deluded if he thinks many Celtic fans wouldn't mind losing a game if it prevented Rangers winning the league,, decent first season let's hope the board back him in the transfer window and he pulls in another few decent players and a few dead wood exit the building, COYS
Ange wouldn't be pissed off about staff 'joking' about losing the game. There's got to be more to it than that.
Really enjoyed this episode. Well done gents
The Spurs community has a significant responsibility in continuously encouraging Mr. Daniel Levy to adopt a winning mentality in the transfer market. Our role is crucial, and we cannot rest until we achieve our objective of winning the Premier League, Champions League, and other trophies. It is essential to support our current and future managers to ensure their success. If we find that the board is not proactive and efficient in the transfer market, we must stand united and speak up against them. Let's stand up and fight for the success of our club.Coys
It was a weird atmosphere in the ground and there absolutely were some (quite a few) spurs supporters there who wanted city to win to stuff arsenal. There were more of us who wanted spurs to win. Personally while I was hoping and cheering for a win I just didn’t want a draw as it was no use to us given the Liverpool/villa result from the night before. We win we would be in a good position given final day fixtures to qualify for champions league, we draw we just stay fifth same as if we lose and if it wasn’t going to benefit us at least we wouldn’t have helped arsenal.
First Conte and now Ange.... Ali and his fellow journos triggering another manager again 🤣🤣
In fairness, Tottenham are an infuriating team to support and for Ange; to manage.😡 Ange is feeling the heat and took his frustration out on the journalists.😭
If WHU park the bus at City and nick a point and the Gooners win the title anyway how do our fans who wanted us to lose feel then
Chef's kiss
Hi Alistair I've been a Spurs supporter for 63 years and couldn't believe what I was hearing with Spurs fans wanting Spurs to loose to City to stop Arsole winning the Premier league specially when we could still get a Champions league place with Aston villa sill needing a draw at Palace the form they are in and I can understand why Ange was so upset when the Spurs staff joking about it, I was upset when I heard the Spurs reporter Olie what's his face who writes a news paper was hoping Spurs would loose and Jamie O' Hara was wearing a City shirt and cheering when City scored I would never ever want Spurs to loose and I didn't think that was a pen either I thought Romero got the ball first then the City player tripped over Romeros leg. They that was a penalty and that high boot against Johnson wasn't seemed to me dangerous play could have taken his head off but I know its a biased opinion 😂
Lees' comments like in and around the club that is what set off Ange he wants unity with and within the club with a winning mentality and not deviate from that thinking no matter what, and that the club needs a facelift
It’s frustrating that even some Spurs fans/commenters are suggesting that the attitude towards the game on Tuesday is unique to Spurs fans. A lot of Utd fans wanted Arsenal to beat them last Sunday for the same reason and I remember vividly Liverpool fans wanting to lose at home to Blackburn on the final day of the 95 season to stop Utd winning the league. Ange may have experienced the Old Firm rivalry but it doesn’t mean he understands it- if Celtic were ever to be put in the position we were in the other night the reaction would have been the same. Ange had experienced 2 NLD but clearly didn’t expect this from our supporters. Also, what we want doesn’t impact the result, so this whole chat is irrelevant. If Spurs fans got want we want the last 35 years would have looked very differently. It’s awful that we’re put in these ridiculous situations in the first place and now we’re getting the blame for them arising! We have enough problems and the game is done so let’s just move on. COYS!
Ange will be fighting against Levy and ENIC’s specific aim to keep that complacent, lackadaisical and unambitious attitude in place throughout the football club. It allows them to concentrate on the core property development activities
In my early days of supporting Spurs the crowds were not segregated so depending on your luck you could be surrounded by opposition fans - including Gooners,
I never saw or had any issues plenty of banter and joking but fun.
So I am saying after being a Spurs supporter for over 70 years I dont hate Arsenal i pity them really!
However given I would prefer they did not win the league I am damned if I want Spurs to lose to facilitate that.
I believe there is a chance that we now could fail to get the point we need for 5th place but the attitude of a LOT of Spurs fans may well leave the players thinking "Whats the bloody point" I hope not and if I was a praying man I would pray not.
COYS
In the UK there is an expression, ‘it’s not the winning it’s the taking part’ in Australia they laugh at that.
There it’s ’if you don’t think your winning then don’t bother showing up’
Ange is 100% right. I bet nobody in the club will do it again. I hope the fans won’t either.
This whole story has dominated our club for weeks and it’s all been constructed by the questions and media about a hypothetical. Don’t let it.
Ange team didn't show up - we will end up 6th!
Gents great vlog. To be honest Ange will only smash it in the second season if backed by Mr Levy and the board .
We’ve had an Italian manager and Portuguese manager with ‘winning mentality’
The wining mentality died when ENIC took over.
This is the most unsuccessful tenure of Spurs in its history.
We won’t be competing for the champions league next season.
This season we only had one recognised centre forward
Spurs will ever be missing four, five players from a full squad
I agree with Ange but it's naive to not think that at any club whatever the size there would be a section of the fans that would not want a bitter rival to win and wouldn't mind getting beaten if it meant they didn't win
But when your will is to win, and your own supporters and employees don't do everything in their efforts to aid that win, it pisses him off, he clearly doesn't like losing
@@robharwood-stamper9857 would have been nice to seen him this upset after the last 7 losses, and all of the cup exits...im all the way behind ange but supporters have the right to feel how we want, we have backed him through tough times
@@rickytiago3892feel how you please but don't bring that crap to the stadium, chanting Mancity, swapping jerseys, provoking Ange from the sideline, utter disrespect and rubbish! Yeh use platforms like this to vent out your frustration and give opinions but you make a fool of yourself when you bring that attitude into your stadium. Hes done great getting 5th. Patience!
How do we know the people doing the poznan were not City supporters in the Spurs end? Rumours abound of Arsenal supporters getting tickets for the same area?
I thought the players gave it their all. For that, I was gutted that they didn’t get the proper support from some of the fans.
Maybe that’s part of the reason why Ange was so upset. Being the father figure that the players say he is, that has to be disheartening. Prepping your kids to give their all, to win. Then not to have the backing of the entire fan base.
Sad day! I hope we can all move past this. I am rooting for Ange to start winning things, so the culture and mentality can change here with Spurs. #coys
Thanks for the great show, as always! Fair, balanced, unbiased views 🤝
Sorry I cannot shut up Bang on Ally Ange is the answer
Where in the vid did they say brian gil was terriffied?
Please make this a 3 man show for now on 🙏🏼
I've never been so ashamed to be a spurs fan as in the last week
I agree. And our team played so well.
Great episode Cheers guys 🎈Ali enjoy down under 👍🍺
I had a fan say to me that they are happy to lose CL football, if it means Arsenal don't win the league. Shocking. Why are these people letting Arsenal live rent free in their heads? It's embarrassing to be honest.
Great podcast guys 👍🏼
Bentencur was kicking the seat cause I know he feels he can play the whole game out and do not want to be subbed out. Typical Uruguayan and I say this cause I’m Uruguayo!
Subtelty from an Aussie is a rare thing!!!
Oh that was you who asked the question? wild.
When Arsenal are so far inside your heads that you go to your own stadium and actively support the opposition, Arsenal win every which way you look at it. Tottenham supporters are a big, big part of the problem every week, well before this shameful incident.
With respect, I disagree with Lee Wilmot and numerous fans. I have been a fan since 1962, and what Arsenal do or do not do is not that important to me. I certainly would not want our great club to be tainted with trying to lose. This is almost a type of match-fixing.
Only if the players want to lose. What the fans want is irrelevant, as we know.
It's a culture thing, In Australia general culture of supporting , we hate all opposition equally , No discrimination required. Don't try make Ange change. Fans it time for you to change. Winners are grinners and losers look in the drip tray😅
After the battle of the bridge the Chelsea players celebrated a draw at home like they had won the league ,for one reason cause they had stopped Tottenham .but they are no accused of being a small club mentality
Yeah, cause they didn’t try to lose
Oh maybe you don’t realise by losing is different to drawing ❤
@@Not_me_22y😂😂😂
@@Not_me_22yoh is that your real profile pic ren?!😝🥰😘😘
One simple fact if we had beaten or at least drawn with Woolwich in the game a couple of weeks earlier this would never have been a thing . Love you to put that one to Ange !!!!!!
We do need to change as a club and it will take time problem is that a lot of supporters don't have any patience anymore . I would be happy to see next season as a further step in the re-build . With more Ange wanted players coming in and deadwood going out . A good run in a cup or Europe would be a nice to have as well but that is down to luck .
Enjoy your next leg of the world tour !!
You really think you did something here didn’t you 😂
@@Not_me_22y he did though to be fair, he raised some very good points, its odd to choose one game out of many he could have asked for a killer instinct, fulham comes to mind, and also 7 out of the last 10 that we havent won
Essentially the guy is a winner... end of! Either you are wired that way or not! That is simply difference in mentality between winners and losers whatever you do in life! Focus on yourself!
This going to turn into the Gold-Lee and Guest podcast? I would sign up for that one
Sarr as false nine was interesting experiment but did mean we lacked people in the box at times in a game where we had to win. Sonny sadly just looks knackered mentally and physically after his efforts this season including at international level.
You right about Sonny he’s been a shadow of himself it’s not just the physical side mentally Korea failure in the new year but I think it’s the toll of having to fill Kanes shoes not just goals but leading the team having only 1 no 9 who was injured for most of the yr did not help especially when Richy showed his quality when Sonny was away then injured again
I’m on same page as Ange the whole thing is an absolute embarrassment full stop!
Good vid guys, some really good points made again and I also thought we played well but just wasn't clinical with some chances. Now on all this media circus about the atmosphere, the fans, anges comments .... For me this is all linked, so from my point of view we've had 24yrs of football failure from these owners that are not interested in winning trophies! Which brings me to us the fans on the night, because of our lack of success in winning trophies under this regime, that 24yrs of failure has filtered through this fanbase which has been starved of celebrating anything, so the fans took it on themselves to celebrate a loss to stop our arch rivals from winning the title which is the next best thing.
Then you have anges comments again another manager under this ownership again echoing previous managers comments questioning the mentality of our club and fanbase! There's 1 constant entity in all of this and it's still there at the club ... LEVY! .... we've had proven winners and every type of coach/manager under his regime and they have all gone whispering the same problems that ange is starting to come out with. until LEVY has gone its groundhog year every year. COYS
Get Olise and Eze if we can thats 180 mil at least
At least Guesty got a good work Ethic 😆
If we keep sacking managers left and right, we'll forever be stuck in 5th-8th place like United (and the Spurs of the past 5 years).
No, there's rivalry and then jealousy. It says something about a person if they'd rather knock their opposition than support their own. Arsenal have worked hard to get to their position, they deserve it regardless of whether I wish we were there. We are on the way if the club and fans want it... or do they prefer to hate rivals. Petty and immature.
LEVY out
The culture and mentality of the club is set from the top with Daniel Levy. When we have got Champions League we have never bought Champions League players!
For months Ange was saying he didn't care about 4th. Only 3 weeks ago he said that he wasn't going to tell the fans what to think. Where was this passion and anger the past weeks and months of poor performances and bad results???
Just maybe fans hoping the teams loses is crossing the line?
You didn't witness the passion and anger prior cos it was with the players and their underperformance and he keeps that in house as a professional man manager... but be certain, they got the blast...... What he witnessed by the Spurs fans was out of order and he has given the club a blast...'Truth, you want the honest Truth?' ....it appears that those most offended by his 'Blast' where guilty and offering a p*ssweak defence. Ange is right to challenge 'quitters mentality' of those focussing their support for man City, celebrating Arsenal's title loss and who completely absented themselves from their 12th man role in the game.
@@callmedo Yeah imagine that eh? How dare a manager have any negativity towards some so-called supporters & staff wanting their team to lose.
he never said he doesn't care about champions league he loves it he meant he doesn't care about it if there is no progress he doesn't want to be there just as a number but looks like his been saying it to brick walls
Way to twist the narrative. He said it’s not the best indicator of success and he wants to BE BETTER. Which means win. But ok cool
Levy needs to get Ange in one of his house get togethers like had with The ol click in kame davies and dier and say what's next..what do we need to do. Back the manager ffs enough is enough
Terrible fans who don't deserve success (or Ange).
Basically to lose CL football just to deny the gooners the league is not only petty but not the idealism of us outplaying them rather than just wishing them bad just for the sake of it.
We pissed away CL football after 4 losses in a row - you wallybrain fans are clutching at straws.
Amazing how 3 people in a crowd of 60k+ jokingly doing the Poznan has rattled so many rival fans, while the media are talking like it was all Spurs fans. Nobody allowed to have fun and make the best of a bad situation anymore. This is such a rare situation Spurs fans have been put in with the timing that the amount of coverage plus Ange’s outburst is so over the top it’s ridiculous. Fans will take joy in dark times at the expense of rivals failing when they’ve been dealt a bum hand. That this is being discussed as abnormal makes no sense, not every club can be a City or even an Arsenal: only the players, manager and the owners can change that, no amount of fans wanting to win will change that.
Exactly. Where was the manager and the players when away fans wasted their money at Newcastle? What did they do when the fans were behind them in the last 6 matches? 5 losses and 1 win. Fans can feel what they want as Ange put it himself, but it’s up to them to block out the noise and win. Forget the fans wanting to lose, you get paid millions to win.
Uncharacteristically Ange was out of line. Let’s move on.
Let's get one thing clear. We repeatedly blew 4th. 4th wasn't is our hands.. we would have never lived down handing the title to Woolwich. Same as we have had abuse and ridicule like when we were 3-0 down in the NLD when WE could have stopped them... It was a horrible situation. I wanted us to win but loosing had it's bonus. We tried , we failed. The board, players and managers have let the club down repeatedly not the fans.
You severely underestimate West Ham and Palace
I think that fan that hassled Ange was a gooner.
As far as I'm concerned I want Tottenham to win every game they play irrespective of the consequences. All the naysayers are worried about is bragging rights down the pub, they want to be able flood social media goading gooners, good fun, but that's all it is and nowhere near as important as Spurs doing well. Even worse, the fans didn't even notice that despite the result Ange out coached Guardiol, changed tactics and got the team playing really well.
I think everyone who is saying that Spurs 'played the best for quite some time' is unintentionally being swayed by the fact that Spurs fan did not want Spurs to win the game. I don't think Spurs played that much better than they did against Liverpool or Arsenal. Spurs are just well-suited to playing against City. Arsenal are very defensively sound and played on the counter attack. City left a lot of spaces. Liverpool was at Anfield and they're better at pressing than City.
Spurs did not play exceptionally well against City. They played well and lost, just like they did against Liverpool and Arsenal.
Sods law that Everton will beat the Gooners, Man City will thump West Spam, Palace will destroy Villa and Spurs will annihilate Sheffield Utd., 😩🤣😜😎🥳 COYS..
Yes.
Great pod once again, but I was distracted the entire time wondering why the 7 on Lee’s clock is bigger than the other numbers. 😅
Its his IQ.
Yes, he was deliberately vague and ambiguous and frankly held himself fairly well considering how clearly he was annoyed behind his words. Completely understandable against the fans that were taking rivalry to the point of not supporting their team. Why go to the match supporting the opposition to start with let alone the media suggesting us to throw the match to deny Arsenal the league. If Arsenal win they deserve it. I don't subscribe to the aggressive rivalry it's meant to be friendly sports rivalry that can make a player/team give above 100%. Outrageous and cretinous behavior from fans that should go support another team. Ange is right, to make a winning team we need to improve the mentality/ethos.
Any spurs fans with arsenal friends workmates family would find it unbearable if the groomer won the league a lot of people are taking the high ground about the fans. I for one can understand fans not wanting to gift arsenal the league
Listen he should have been saying this 6 matches ago fan 60 years get rid of all that shit Solomon segerson Davis skipp royal warn richarliton royal so on son an buy 6 great players
That wasnt lee wilmot that was ed sheeran 💯
Want TRUE & GENUINE CHANGE ??
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All you need is love
Why are people trying to dispute and eradicate the north london rivalry for the sake of a man from the complete other side of the world?! He may've been involved in the old firm rivalry which is more fierce, but it still doesn't mean the north london one doesn't matter. This has been going on for decades, almost a century yet he thinks that fans will just forget about it because he doesn't agree with it. This club & the rivalry has and will stand for decades more to come without this man and if we f'd it up and won that game then those scummy gooners would hold that over us for the rest of time. Ange has no sympathy about what the permutations and what significance that've would been for our fanbase in the future after him whatsoever.
Ali enjoying a pissed off manager, shows a spurs fan when it suits. His points after matches mean nothing now. Hashtag COYS with it suits
I think Ange has made his mind to walk away from Spurs otherwise he wouldn’t have exploded at the press conference. I believe he will make an announcement after the last game. I can’t believe that Ange’s cryptic message is going over peoples heads.
He isn’t going anywhere, he said what he saw and felt at the game and lead up but he will dig in and work hard to sort it out. It’s not his way to give up unless it’s a lost cause completely. He even said in the post presser he has to go back to the drawing board and change some things
@@Henro_aus We will see . I expect him to make an announcement at the end of the next game. This was an unprecedented blow up. Similar to Conte’s parting words. You don’t criticize the club you represent unless you have made up your mind to leave. Ange doesn’t have an issue with his players as they played well against the best team in the EPL. He doesn’t care about the fans. But if he can’t work with the people inside the club or they have reneged on things that they have promised him then that is terminal. Otherwise he wouldn’t have criticized the Spurs hierarchy.
Ange has been saying all season top 4 doesn’t symbolise success and listen to all this 😂 ffs, if you care about championship n league good for you. He just wanted to win and we lost to the best team in the league then he reacted to stupid questions about fan rivalry and a stupid fan acting a prat. He’s human and he was annoyed we move on to next season and hope he gets the players he feels will suit his system. An for those saying CL brings us more money to spend 🙄 if that’s the only way managers will be backed then we know where the problem is
Social media is not ange
Let me learn you some.. rivalry is sending a tv your wife bought, back because its got VIERA on it. Rivalry is throwing a pigs head at Figo because he moved from Barcelona to Real Madrid. If you DONT understand this you are not genuine football fan and should go back to watching Rugby. Case closed.
Them english team apart' from city will be out in the first Round an this team will go out of the euf first round of they keep this lot
Arsenal fans are insufferable and they haven't won a league title in 20 years, imagine what they would be like if they actually won it and we are the ones that helped
The fact Alasdair looks so happy telling the story really annoys me. It’s just a juicy story for him and he’s proud he asked the questions that kicked it off. It’s as if he’s enjoying it. See his face compared to Lee. It’s one thing to be doing your job and reporting but he seems to be enjoying this too much which doesn’t quite sit right with me being a supposed supporter
A man can’t enjoy his job? he’s doing something which he loves and has to act like he doesn’t? You don’t like it go find someone else who covers spurs. Why can’t people be themselves and be happy?
@@ScottLeftyI think you’re lacking some basic reading and comprehension skills champ. I’m talking about his face beaming while he’s talking about a negative story about spurs. I hope he does enjoy his job. He gets to travel around, watching and writing about the team he supposedly supports. Who wouldn’t enjoy that. That’s not the same thing as drawing enjoyment from a negative story about your club
@@AbomaKelly I think you lack some basic empathy and social intelligence champ. Just because his face is “beaming” doesn’t mean he’s pleased with the situation. Maybe he had a wonderful day that day and he simply feels good. He could find the situation comical (which it kinda is) and is coping with the news how he wants to which is his right. He is not obligated to act the way you want him to, again if you don’t agree with his methods take yourself elsewhere. People are always complaining about something huh, why can’t you be happy he offers this free service to you.
@@ScottLefty😂😂 relax Scotty boy, this was just a passing comment of something that stuck out to me while he was recounting the story. Thats it. It ain’t that deep but it’s clearly triggered you. Now you’re straw-manning what I said and implying that I want Ali to behave how I want…🤦♂️Ali can do what he wants. This was just an observation of how I perceived that portion of the video. Also, the irony of telling me to go elsewhere if I don’t like something, yet you seeing my comment, not liking it, then taking the time to reply is comical 😂 take your own advice champ
Bad idea to dig out the fans who have been great to him, despite his indifference to our defensive frailties all season and his indifference to finishing 4th he has displayed in recent interviews. It's absolutely justified that fans don't want to do anything to help Arsenal. And any other club in the same position would hold the same attitude. 4th was lost with performances v West Ham, Wolves, Fulham and Newcastle
I think it's Ange's attempt to change the narrative about him from "Ange has been found out, he's out of his depth" to "the Spurs and the fans don't deserve Ange"
@@BigTiggerP I agree. I'm still behind him and am happy with the way the season has gone overall, considering what everyone expected at the start. I'm positive about next year and hope he gets his players in and we get shot of a few. But you can hardly blame us for not wanting to gift the title to Arsenal. All he needed to do was say he understands the fans, but it's his job to go out to win every game, which we totally get.
@@KGP-tu3rn yea I think he purposely overreacted and went overboard about the fans to change the narrative. It was just last week when the narrative about him was "he's a one trick pony; he's out of his depth"
why lee there?
Guest n Gold are enough thanks, this pod is too long. Dont you love it when the boss sticks their nose in? He is an editor, leave the journos to it.
Trying to install the winning mentality in spurs players and fan's is like trying to teach a monkey rocket science,confused 😂
Gooners not groomer 😂😂😂
Guys we almost made going a whole season without a managerial outburst, but no!
Even if spurs had won there last two games & qualified for the champions league, Would the mentality be different, would spurs seriously go out & try to win the competition, I think we all know the answer ..
The only thing it will do is add value to owners that are rich enough to..
The team played so well. Really impressed by them & Ange shd be trying to get that level of performance on a consistant basis. Instead, he has thrown a rather large spanner in the works. A bit disingenuous, imo.
Even the system was tweaked, so why he didnt do that before in other games, ill never know? I do agree that we played a lot better than previous games
Question for the Panel..
What would you say if Daniel Levy sacked Postecoglou in the summer for his outburst ?
Wishful thinking... from rival fans and a few butt-hurt Aussies.