It's really strange to me that they got the "KSV" modelled very well but then gave it a fake name, and then they have the ASVAL with its real name but the model has all sorts of awful proportions. (They are almost identical guns in reality)
Same manual of arms irl so makes sense for that but it does seem to be the same role as well, sub compact rifle carbine put in the smg slot because it’s made to handle like one
The CHF barrel has a lot more recoil than the other barrels, so I don't understand why Treyarch took away the incentive to equip the barrel. Just remove it from the game then.
Especially if its only going to add around 10% headshot damage (barely noticeable, maybe a 1 headshot reduction on some guns), I feel like the recoil penalty is way too much compared to the small benefit.
You're right. They had a good system with black ops 3 though of course some guns being a one shot to the head was a bit of an issue. At least though you had to work for it since those guns weren't the best. I think the CHF barrel should only be for certain guns that way they can balance the game easier
Usually your recoil is manageable with CHF barrel as long as you don't also equip rapid fire and if you equip other attachments to reduce recoil. Seems like it's designed so that your general attachment "cost" is higher for attachments that provide improved TTK because otherwise they would be too strong which is probably true. Like imagine if it didn't have that penalty, why would you ever use something like a stock over CHF or rapid fire that reduce your TTK by like 15-90ms.
@mrautismo420 what was this ment to accomplish lil bro. I work a full time job, I was working for a month straight in October I didn't even get to get the dtir or any Halloween skins. Take the negativity elsewhere bro.
Hey Ace ! I really like the layout you use in the 'Range and Velocity' section, and I often come back to your general class weapons video to get a quick idea of how guns perform when choosing one. I think it would be really helpful to have access to this asset whenever we want from your spreadsheet, for example ! Keep up the good work !
Would love to see you include some ranked builds in your gun guides, or do some dedicated ranked setups like you have in the past for multiple guns in one video. Maybe even some entire classes? Great content as always.
Historically he's done that but not in the gun guides but rather a dedicated video (after gun guides are completed) focusing on the meta in ranked with builds appropriate for the various attachment criteria for ranked.
This is my favorite SMG. I love the fire rate, iron sights, and reload speed. I play HC, so I play aggressively with it and my main focus is the sprint to fire speed and strafe speed.
I would love to see the effectiveness of the CQB and economic grips. You are not the only content creator I’ve seen that swears by using them, but I personally can’t tell the difference
I feel like this is truly the first game where SMGs have their own ranges. It's painful fighting someone outside of the optimal range, and it should be. That being said, ARs still feel like they can always outdo SMGs.
The people replying to you saying the subs dominate and that they’re braindead clearly are low skill/low understanding players. ARs dominate. Play ranked and you can see 8 krigs on the map. The smg falloff is way too hard considering how well the ARs compete up close
ARs specifically counter SMGs. By outranging them, using less bullets, and not needing to reload as much. SMGs counter LMGs. LMGs counter snipers. Snipers counter shotguns. Shotguns counter ARs.
Yeah but it should have been more forgiving. It should have been 4,5,6,8 shots to kill if they wanted a harsh drop off. Going straight from 5 to 7 is a bit harsh. It has less range than the C9 anyway. They’re both good though. The C9 is most well rounded SMG and doesn’t have bad damage for its fire rate (unlike most of the other SMGs that have steep drop offs). I just try not to use it too much since the MP5 is overused and not as fun anymore.
@@brawler5760No need to be a smartass. The C9, Tanto, and PP919 can actually be decently effective at midrange with a couple of attachments. KSV is just really focused on close quarters.
@@brawler5760 mostly thought this because its recoil was fairly controllable and it had high damage and a reasonable 4 shot kill range bc I didn't have access to the more in-depth ranged charts and because I did gold for the Tanto and C9 beforehand which do perform well at midrange. Dick.
@@brawler5760 - It's impractical to use a gun that's ONLY good at close range. You're gonna be caught in mid-range fights fairly consistently unless you're a rat
Could you look into the field upgrade Morphine Injector? I'm specifically thinking about the possibility of affecting how fast you can get a shot to fire when you get downed. By default it seems almost unusable.
For that balanced stealth build I do something similar sometimes but I use long barrel instead of suppressor and just use perk greed to take ghost and ninja.
I’ve been away from COD since the disappointing launch of Cold War, so you having a face cam was a jumpscare for me, just not what I expected from your voice, love the beard man looks great
Season 1 tanked performance for me on one of my PCs with low framerates and constant stuttering. Fine one day, then unplayable the next after the update went live, and it's still not resolved, let alone the constant server and UX issues that still affect the game. The silver lining is finding a game in MW3 is still quick and easy, which is a bit of an indictment on BO6.
The KSV has been what I've been sticking with I love it, the AS-Val I like more but I just don't know if it's worth using a permanent unlock token on, at least not right away
It makes sense that the KSV’s as good as the AS VAL, since the SR-3 Vikhr and SR-3M are both essentially miniaturized VALs. They’re both stellar guns in MP and zombies alike, and at least on the zombies side I can say I did not regret permaunlocking the VAL.
The inconsistently on the magazine attachments is mind boggling. Its like someone messed up a design spreadsheet and no one noticed. In general, I feel like that even a lot of MW2 attachments has more benefits than some of these
The 25rnd mag also comes with ADS time bonus that the flip mag doesn't have, and Ace is applying the reload add time but the entire reload animation time of the 25rnd mag is fast enough for using it.
Ya do know that there’s more to these fast mags than just the reload speed, right? Fast Mag II comes with an ADS speed bonus too, Ace just never says it because it’s shown in the advanced stats.
Ace I love your content your the goat... I really wish you would add a hardcore set up into your builds so us hardcore guys can have some recommended builds as there are none on RUclips at all.... Anyway thanks your all the years of great content and information for cod you're the GOAT man.
Your problem is playing hardcore. It’s hardcore. It literally basically doesn’t matter since it’s so easy and most guns are on equal playing field with such low health. Like be a real adult and play the core modes that require actual skill through aiming and tracking over time instead blink and you’re dead time to kill
Ace could you check the chf barrel? As soon as I am hit by someone that has the chf barrel equipped my hud vanishes and I have very high screen shake. In the menu that is stated nowhere
I haven't looked at it on the KSV, but I think the real reason to choose fast mags is usually the small ADS/sprint to fire buff, not really the "faster" reload.
Don't know if anyone has had this problem but the replacer as val blueprint when I edit it I pretty much keep the same attachments but I remove the scope and get the long suppressed barrel so on my load out screen it shows the gun without a scope yet when I get into a match it's there and I can't get rid of it. There are other blueprints like the tracer ak. Once again remove the scope yet when I enter a match it's still there. It's slightly frustrating cuz for me the as val works better without a scope. Has anyone had this problem?
Chf barrel is the most obnoxiously useless attachment in years. They need to either rework it or completely change it to a recoil heavy barrel or something
This thing is really strong because the map design is so bad and small, you are almost never going to be at long ranges so it's either gonna be at the top or competitive.
In my opinion, the KSV is my favorite SMG in BO6 hands down. Competitive close quarters TTK and a reasonably fast 800 rpm fire rate is what makes this one a stand out.
No headshot multiplier, no neck shot, no vital heart area multiplier. Yet they just had to remap the hitbox structures for b06? Camo challenges all start with heashots. Myabe im dumb. But why? Who at Treyarch thought any of that made any sense after all of their "so called testing". Every single person that has played including their own QA testers said the no headshot multiplier was ridiculous. I have played every COD. And initially this one was fun. But its starting to be not fun. For the first time since Vangaurd (Cold War). Im starting to miss the previous Call of Duty game (MW3). They removed all of the fun from previous years attachments. We now have 30 underbarrels that all do 2 of 3 things. They nerfed the aftermarket parts. They basically made all previous guns suck so their bad ones arent as bad. Im sorry to rant. But i figured this may help with a future video. I give it one week before Scump and all the former pros start talking the pooh on this game.
The "hitbox restructure" was for death animations only. The hitboxes for damage are the same as they've always been. While I don't fully agree with the current state of headshots, the reasoning is consistency in TTK, especially with all the crazy new movement. This was a very intentional design decision and not something that slipped through QA testing. In fact, they even publicly tested a higher headshot multiplier for many guns right at launch and then decided to dial it back to Beta values not too long after. Scump and nearly ever other pro/retired pro is likely very much in favor of the current headshot multiplier since they tend to ban/GA any gun that has a decent headshot potential for competitive (like the Model L back when headshots where good on it) and I believe this was one of the key factors in pushing Treyarch to dial back headshots again after launch.
@TheXclusiveAce appreciate the thorough response. Its why your the go to for stuff like this. It is definitely frustrating landing 4 headshots in a row in full auto with a headshot multiplier barrel. Just to loose the fight to someone that has a faster rate of fire weapon hitting me in the body. This is more specific to what I feel is out of balance. Your the Goat Ace
@@SpiffingDayafter getting it gold I can confirm you definitely have to keep your distance without rapid fire. With rapid fire you can play more aggressively since you can hold down the trigger
@SpiffingDay nah the pump shotty is complete cheeks without a long barrel or choke on it; swat is still a 3 bullet kill gun with high velo and good damage range.
I have 2 questions 1. What about idle sway ? If you go to the range and you aim on the 3rd traget and ADS the dot wont be on the target it will be around the target every time you ADS. 2. What the idea behind low HS multiplier?
@@rockmycd1319 - The Kompact kills way quicker in close quarters and is a bit easier to control imo. That gun is also pretty dookie too when you take a step back.
KSV is based on SR3 Vikhr Russian firearm and it start service in 1996 so that means treyarch chose the guns have not enter service so they are making inaccurate choices for guns fits in the Time era 1991
KSV has been my personal favorite SMG since Day 1, liked the 74u-esque look.
It certainly is the closest thing even compared to jackal. Unfortunately the KSV is actually an as val sub type gun. So is the Kompakt
It's really strange to me that they got the "KSV" modelled very well but then gave it a fake name, and then they have the ASVAL with its real name but the model has all sorts of awful proportions. (They are almost identical guns in reality)
Same. It's over 80% of my weapon usage.
@@102ndsmirnov7 its SR3M not ASVAL, look at the icon profile
Same manual of arms irl so makes sense for that but it does seem to be the same role as well, sub compact rifle carbine put in the smg slot because it’s made to handle like one
The CHF barrel has a lot more recoil than the other barrels, so I don't understand why Treyarch took away the incentive to equip the barrel. Just remove it from the game then.
Especially if its only going to add around 10% headshot damage (barely noticeable, maybe a 1 headshot reduction on some guns), I feel like the recoil penalty is way too much compared to the small benefit.
You're right. They had a good system with black ops 3 though of course some guns being a one shot to the head was a bit of an issue. At least though you had to work for it since those guns weren't the best. I think the CHF barrel should only be for certain guns that way they can balance the game easier
The only time i use it is in zombies lol😂.
Zombies
Usually your recoil is manageable with CHF barrel as long as you don't also equip rapid fire and if you equip other attachments to reduce recoil. Seems like it's designed so that your general attachment "cost" is higher for attachments that provide improved TTK because otherwise they would be too strong which is probably true. Like imagine if it didn't have that penalty, why would you ever use something like a stock over CHF or rapid fire that reduce your TTK by like 15-90ms.
This is the first game in a while where there are so many good guns that I like using
The weapon balance is good, but it was also good in MWII.
I just started levelling this gun before seeing the upload. Yep, the KSV is a beast. Very nice iron sights as well for those that don’t use optics.
I trust no other youtuber when it comes to providing educated statistics in COD. Keep it up Ace 👍🏽.
Agreed. Ace is the 🐐
I mean, you can also trust true game data 🤷🏼♂️
How bout you start trusting some other guy when it comes to legit statistics (Get. A. Life.)
I only watch Ace for mp and I watch JGod for Wz! Both are the only data people I trust!
@mrautismo420 what was this ment to accomplish lil bro. I work a full time job, I was working for a month straight in October I didn't even get to get the dtir or any Halloween skins. Take the negativity elsewhere bro.
huge fan of showing all the recoil patterns and the different stat changes on the build section. very useful info!
Hey Ace ! I really like the layout you use in the 'Range and Velocity' section, and I often come back to your general class weapons video to get a quick idea of how guns perform when choosing one. I think it would be really helpful to have access to this asset whenever we want from your spreadsheet, for example !
Keep up the good work !
Would love to see you include some ranked builds in your gun guides, or do some dedicated ranked setups like you have in the past for multiple guns in one video. Maybe even some entire classes?
Great content as always.
Historically he's done that but not in the gun guides but rather a dedicated video (after gun guides are completed) focusing on the meta in ranked with builds appropriate for the various attachment criteria for ranked.
We need best 4 perk setups please ace
All green perks + bankroll for 4th is what I use
Ghost, flak jacket, Forward Intel, bankroll.
Ghost, ninja, forward intel, double time
Swap ghost or ninja for flak if you wanted
@@RamboUnchained even in small maps blue perks needed?
@@DaveyGrimmett even in small maps blue perks needed?
This is my favorite SMG. I love the fire rate, iron sights, and reload speed. I play HC, so I play aggressively with it and my main focus is the sprint to fire speed and strafe speed.
This was the first gun I really liked on day 1. And I gravitated to it because it looks like a 74-U, lol
I would love to see the effectiveness of the CQB and economic grips. You are not the only content creator I’ve seen that swears by using them, but I personally can’t tell the difference
Ergonomic lol
@ yeah i voice typed it and didnt check xd
Hands down my favorite SMG. I see it being the meta in comp like the vmp in bo3
My go to weapon in Babylon
I feel like this is truly the first game where SMGs have their own ranges. It's painful fighting someone outside of the optimal range, and it should be. That being said, ARs still feel like they can always outdo SMGs.
Ur drunk. SMGs dominate again ❤
Lol smg op af. Especially braindeaw c9. They outgun ars and most maps are short rang3 and a lot of corners.
Depends on the ranges in question. Within 10 meters, SMGs dominate, but Assault Rifles are simply more consistent out to about 20 meters.
The people replying to you saying the subs dominate and that they’re braindead clearly are low skill/low understanding players.
ARs dominate. Play ranked and you can see 8 krigs on the map. The smg falloff is way too hard considering how well the ARs compete up close
ARs specifically counter SMGs. By outranging them, using less bullets, and not needing to reload as much.
SMGs counter LMGs. LMGs counter snipers. Snipers counter shotguns. Shotguns counter ARs.
Simple and great balance to C9.
Higher RPM and lower minimum damage.
I wonder why COD usually don't do this kind of simple balancing...
Yeah but it should have been more forgiving. It should have been 4,5,6,8 shots to kill if they wanted a harsh drop off. Going straight from 5 to 7 is a bit harsh. It has less range than the C9 anyway. They’re both good though. The C9 is most well rounded SMG and doesn’t have bad damage for its fire rate (unlike most of the other SMGs that have steep drop offs). I just try not to use it too much since the MP5 is overused and not as fun anymore.
well seeing that hs multiplayer explains why this thing was a pain to get headshots with
Thanx man!! Fear the beard...😂
Really did not like this gun when I got it gold for diamond SMGs-- in hindsight I think I was trying too hard to make it better at midrange
Wow who woulda thought that an SMG would be bad at midrange and beyond
@@brawler5760No need to be a smartass. The C9, Tanto, and PP919 can actually be decently effective at midrange with a couple of attachments.
KSV is just really focused on close quarters.
@@brawler5760 mostly thought this because its recoil was fairly controllable and it had high damage and a reasonable 4 shot kill range bc I didn't have access to the more in-depth ranged charts and because I did gold for the Tanto and C9 beforehand which do perform well at midrange. Dick.
@@brawler5760 - It's impractical to use a gun that's ONLY good at close range. You're gonna be caught in mid-range fights fairly consistently unless you're a rat
@@cobaltcardsgaming5982I’m sorry, it’s just that I have PTSD from when SMGs were the real meta and nothing else from the previous games
We will be waiting for the Kompakt Gun Guide….
Took me a long time to get accurate with this gun. And the range felt terrible but it did feel deadly up close if you can hit
Could we maybe get a POV situation for the effective damage range please? Would make it easier to visually understand the best range for guns 🙌
Good idea but will differ based on your FOV
Yeah I found the strelok really good on it
I think it's worth also looking at how extended mags impact ADS and sprint-out times since I've noticed on some guns it is fairly significant
Yes, but that’s obvious lol. Should he cover the fact that rapid fire increased the amount of bullets fired per second? Lol
@@toziassmitthe did cover that, it increases to 857rpm.
You can see the stats yourself in the gunsmith
Great video ace
This gun absolutely destroys in zombies as well. This gun has no reason to this good in both mp and zombies and I love it
Wdym it has no reason? No gun really had any reason then. This gun has a high fire rate and good damage up close - that’s why it’s good.
Could you look into the field upgrade Morphine Injector? I'm specifically thinking about the possibility of affecting how fast you can get a shot to fire when you get downed. By default it seems almost unusable.
Saug akimbo seems fun...
Hey Ace i know you're busy but do you plan to make a melee weapon comparison video in the near future?
It really does, I thought it was buns at first but it melts
it takes a really long time to rank up guns in this game even with 2XP tokens in MW III I had everything maxed out within a weeks to months
For that balanced stealth build I do something similar sometimes but I use long barrel instead of suppressor and just use perk greed to take ghost and ninja.
Ok, but ghost isn’t helping you much if you don’t have a suppressor and you’re showing up on the mini map with every shot you take 🤷🏼♂️
@@Dance_Fanatic Sorry I meant long barrel instead of infiltrator stock. Definitely keep the suppressor on there haha.
2x headshot multiplier would make this gun more versatile....
3 shot kills headshot at 25 meters sounds like hell
Yep this is my favorite smg lol
This was the first gun i got gold in BO6. Never touched it after, but im about to get gold on the rest and ill be back to get diamond on it tho
"headshots are useless" continues
Do a tanto build
Barrel attachment more beneficial than ranger foregrip
Mind tackling the SWAT 556 next?
I’ve been away from COD since the disappointing launch of Cold War, so you having a face cam was a jumpscare for me, just not what I expected from your voice, love the beard man looks great
Ace what would you recommend for Ranked play while its not banned
Ranked has different attachments?
@@patrickbateman4541yes they limit the attachments
Does reinforced barrel counter rapid fire’s damage range and velocity penalties?
No
Maximum damage range meaning the shortest range you are describing is so confusing at first lol
is this better than the c9 class you made?
Season 1 tanked performance for me on one of my PCs with low framerates and constant stuttering. Fine one day, then unplayable the next after the update went live, and it's still not resolved, let alone the constant server and UX issues that still affect the game. The silver lining is finding a game in MW3 is still quick and easy, which is a bit of an indictment on BO6.
The KSV has been what I've been sticking with I love it, the AS-Val I like more but I just don't know if it's worth using a permanent unlock token on, at least not right away
It makes sense that the KSV’s as good as the AS VAL, since the SR-3 Vikhr and SR-3M are both essentially miniaturized VALs. They’re both stellar guns in MP and zombies alike, and at least on the zombies side I can say I did not regret permaunlocking the VAL.
Level 124 here. Dont need unlock tokens 😂
@@Predash051 get a life put the game down 124 one month wow sad
@@V4der87I agree but damn no need to be so harsh
@@Williamwillow_ I was trying for it to sound funny but it was a little differcult on here
Does using tac stance reduce bullet spread?
Why not go extended mags 2 on the tac stance setup that has rapid fire?
Does recoil attachments affect tac stance?
I’ve never seen such a large 9x19mm magazine 😵💫
The SR3 uses 9x39, not 9x19. It shouldn't even be in the SMG category tbh.
@@JF-vz1juIf you wanna stretch that logic far, at the time Russia did classify shit like the SR3 and AKS-74U as SMGs, as stupid as that may be
@@brawler5760What? when did they ever classify the 74u as an SMG when it was part of a project to build a new carbine
@@JF-vz1juyea doesn’t it and the As Val fire the same cartridge?
@@ngsanfo7927 Yes. It's very similar, pretty much just a more concealable VAL without the integral suppressor.
Ace I know this is a bit of a long shot with all ur testing this early but when will u be doing the best ranked classes brother
Need
Damage Range and Recoil. That's all you need on the KSV.
The inconsistently on the magazine attachments is mind boggling. Its like someone messed up a design spreadsheet and no one noticed. In general, I feel like that even a lot of MW2 attachments has more benefits than some of these
The 25rnd mag also comes with ADS time bonus that the flip mag doesn't have, and Ace is applying the reload add time but the entire reload animation time of the 25rnd mag is fast enough for using it.
Ya do know that there’s more to these fast mags than just the reload speed, right? Fast Mag II comes with an ADS speed bonus too, Ace just never says it because it’s shown in the advanced stats.
@@brawler5760 Sometimes it comes with faster ADS, sometimes it does not. They are different depending on the gun (my entire problem)
Activision trolling Us in real time with the chf barrel
It dominates up close unless I'm using it. Then its just as meh as everything else.
True lol
thats a skill issue at that point
So it acts as an SMG should. Why do people want SMGs to compete at mid ranges when they’re principally close range guns
KSV is the AK47u its dope
Ace I love your content your the goat... I really wish you would add a hardcore set up into your builds so us hardcore guys can have some recommended builds as there are none on RUclips at all.... Anyway thanks your all the years of great content and information for cod you're the GOAT man.
Your problem is playing hardcore. It’s hardcore. It literally basically doesn’t matter since it’s so easy and most guns are on equal playing field with such low health. Like be a real adult and play the core modes that require actual skill through aiming and tracking over time instead blink and you’re dead time to kill
@@Highwaysonyfan87hardcore is for naabs.
@@Highwaysonyfan87What happened to playing the way you want to..?
@@brawler5760if the way you want to play is baby mode, then go ahead
@@Highwaysonyfan87Better than playing with sweat lords like you.
How does Drift0r still have more subs
Ace could you check the chf barrel? As soon as I am hit by someone that has the chf barrel equipped my hud vanishes and I have very high screen shake. In the menu that is stated nowhere
I just can’t believe that recoil pattern, I’ve gotten worse patterns from closed ranged WITH attachments. Am I doing something wrong?????
Please do a top 5 gun video
This gun is a hit marker machine in Hardcore…
How does Fast Mag being only .02 seconds faster even happen? Like that's such a minuscule difference
I haven't looked at it on the KSV, but I think the real reason to choose fast mags is usually the small ADS/sprint to fire buff, not really the "faster" reload.
@@adleo88This; I also pair the higher tier Fast Mags with Commando Grip as both reduce sprint-to-fire and ADS speeds.
@@adleo88They’re already fast enough and there are plenty of other handling attachments too. Seems more like a handicap than anything
@@rockmycd1319 I wouldn't use it on an AR or SMG, but Marksman Rifles and MGs can benefit a lot from it
@@adleo88 MGs maybe, though having bullets is still useful for marksman rifles. Especially the AEK since it consumes a lot.
Don't know if anyone has had this problem but the replacer as val blueprint when I edit it I pretty much keep the same attachments but I remove the scope and get the long suppressed barrel so on my load out screen it shows the gun without a scope yet when I get into a match it's there and I can't get rid of it. There are other blueprints like the tracer ak. Once again remove the scope yet when I enter a match it's still there. It's slightly frustrating cuz for me the as val works better without a scope. Has anyone had this problem?
Better than C9 ?
At close range, yes but the C9 is more versatile overall.
@ cool thanks! Big fan 🫱🏽🫲🏾
Chf barrel is the most obnoxiously useless attachment in years. They need to either rework it or completely change it to a recoil heavy barrel or something
Ace!!!
Love this smg it shreds
This thing is really strong because the map design is so bad and small, you are almost never going to be at long ranges so it's either gonna be at the top or competitive.
Crazy the ranger grip been the best since mw
In my opinion, the KSV is my favorite SMG in BO6 hands down. Competitive close quarters TTK and a reasonably fast 800 rpm fire rate is what makes this one a stand out.
Ace could you please make a HC class on these? I just want to hear your opinion on what you think is best with range, ADS speed and movement.
No headshot multiplier, no neck shot, no vital heart area multiplier. Yet they just had to remap the hitbox structures for b06? Camo challenges all start with heashots. Myabe im dumb. But why? Who at Treyarch thought any of that made any sense after all of their "so called testing". Every single person that has played including their own QA testers said the no headshot multiplier was ridiculous. I have played every COD. And initially this one was fun. But its starting to be not fun. For the first time since Vangaurd (Cold War). Im starting to miss the previous Call of Duty game (MW3). They removed all of the fun from previous years attachments. We now have 30 underbarrels that all do 2 of 3 things. They nerfed the aftermarket parts. They basically made all previous guns suck so their bad ones arent as bad. Im sorry to rant. But i figured this may help with a future video. I give it one week before Scump and all the former pros start talking the pooh on this game.
The "hitbox restructure" was for death animations only. The hitboxes for damage are the same as they've always been. While I don't fully agree with the current state of headshots, the reasoning is consistency in TTK, especially with all the crazy new movement. This was a very intentional design decision and not something that slipped through QA testing. In fact, they even publicly tested a higher headshot multiplier for many guns right at launch and then decided to dial it back to Beta values not too long after. Scump and nearly ever other pro/retired pro is likely very much in favor of the current headshot multiplier since they tend to ban/GA any gun that has a decent headshot potential for competitive (like the Model L back when headshots where good on it) and I believe this was one of the key factors in pushing Treyarch to dial back headshots again after launch.
@TheXclusiveAce appreciate the thorough response. Its why your the go to for stuff like this. It is definitely frustrating landing 4 headshots in a row in full auto with a headshot multiplier barrel. Just to loose the fight to someone that has a faster rate of fire weapon hitting me in the body. This is more specific to what I feel is out of balance. Your the Goat Ace
This cod its all about RoF
Xclusive.. you’re kind of dragging your feet with these gun guides.
probably the worst gun in the game with no attachments but once you get some stuff unlocked it's a legit gun
I think the Kompact or the SWAT take that mantle
@@SpiffingDayafter getting it gold I can confirm you definitely have to keep your distance without rapid fire. With rapid fire you can play more aggressively since you can hold down the trigger
@SpiffingDay nah the pump shotty is complete cheeks without a long barrel or choke on it; swat is still a 3 bullet kill gun with high velo and good damage range.
Yah iron sights suck but once you put a optic on it then it’s fine
Not even close lol what?
I have 2 questions
1. What about idle sway ? If you go to the range and you aim on the 3rd traget and ADS the dot wont be on the target it will be around the target every time you ADS.
2. What the idea behind low HS multiplier?
The fact that headshots are useless is mind blowing to me. What a joke
Can we get the stats for horrible hit detection profile 🤣🤣 cuz clearly my bullets take more damage
Treyarch is going to see this and nerf the shit out of it congratz 😂
Easily my least favorite SMG. You take 1 step back and it's 30 hitmarkers with much worse recoil than any other SMG 😂
100% agree. I regretted even trying to get it gold. Once I stopped using it my KD doubled
You say this like the Kompact isn’t 10x worse in this regard
@@rockmycd1319 - The Kompact kills way quicker in close quarters and is a bit easier to control imo. That gun is also pretty dookie too when you take a step back.
Crazy, it's my favorite lol. To each his own I guess....
@@Fungi_2_kno you mustn’t have used any of the other smgs considering they are all significantly better
Hit marker machine for me like the PP 919 but enemies delete me in an instant with it despite me 20 ping
Oh wait...just desync
This has been making me not want to play the game recently 😅
I find SMGs so underwhelming, their damage fall off is just too punishing.
No they’re not. SMGs should be close range guns, not ARs but with better handling.
I think it’s ridiculous that so many SMGs have a 4-shot kill range at the most common engagement range for autos in the game.
I hate this gun. It feels the worst out of all of them to me
My favorite. Every1 loves the PP, C9, etc. KSV so much better
I can’t be the only one having this problem. I can still hear my footsteps with ninja. The same volume as if I don’t have ninja equipped.
Instalike
KSV is based on SR3 Vikhr Russian firearm and it start service in 1996 so that means treyarch chose the guns have not enter service so they are making inaccurate choices for guns fits in the Time era 1991
Sir, weapons going into service has little to nothing to do with when a weapon was first manufactured and available.
Hush lil bro we don’t care about history. It’s COD not ARMA
You speak like 2/3 of the BO1 arsenal isn't anachronistic
You and Handler sound a lot alike. You guys should do a collab!
Smgs are terrible in this game there is no reason to use them over assault rifles
It dont matter... none of this matters. Not with the crappy netcode, servers, and SBMM ping rates.
It needs a nerf like how the jackal got one
Jackal takes a shit on this gun though
too bad the game is absolutely terrible
Loads of skip and stutter playing tonight, makes the game rubbish.