Great video! I love that you plan on keeping your new Jeep stock. I'm tired of seeing videos of Rubicon's with 37" tires, 4 inch lifts and custom suspension systems, etc. Most of us don't have limitless cash to drop on these mods. For me the ultimate video would be your new Rubicon, along with a Willys, Sport, and KL to see how they compare and in the real world.
Thank you so much! That’d be a great video and I’d love to shoot it… the difficulty is finding people with those vehicles who would want to wheel. I’m lucky enough that Davon and his girlfriend will take on my Rubicon with their new Broncos (his is a 4 door, hers is a 2 door… but they’re still waiting on them to be built). It might be tough to find someone with a stock 4 door JLUR willing to wheel it on a hard trail. Still, I know they’re out there. Making scheduling work is a big challenge for us as I work a lot. In the meantime, I try to focus on the trail vs the vehicles, but I get seeing different vehicles do a trail helps. Sorry if this hard to understand, I worked overnight and need a nap.
Biggest difference is all the aluminum. Pros: less weight, better fuel mileage,ride and wheeling abilities. Cons: dents like a beer can. All in all the JL is just leaps and bounds better than the JK. Rides better, wheels better, feels better. The improvements are very noticeable especially going back n forth in them as we do. Jenn does love her old rattle trap tho🤣
I bought a 2021 Hella Yella 2 door Rubicon myself. Pretty close to yours but I also have the tailgate reinforcement and the satin black grille. To me the Jeep looks really awesome with that satin black grille. I have kept it pretty stock except I opted for aftermarket bumpers front and back. I don’t want to take away the iconic look of the Jeep. I keep it pretty stock and enjoy it just the way it is and it’s honestly a blast. Thankfully I have mine garaged so in the summer I can keep the Jeep stripped down, tube doors installed and cargo net on the back so I can take the doggies with me.
Lol, I got back into cell service soon after wrapping this one up, luckily we didn’t have power to run anything lol. The all nighter I’m on now is killing me tho… was hoping for a long nap, but instead he ran us till just now. You can’t go wrong with either in my opinion.
Congrats on the new JL! I really like the Falcon Wildpeaks that came my my 2020 JT-R. Just hit 24k miles and they are still wearing really well. Aside from adding a winch, bed rack for RTT my JT wil remain stock as well.
That's great you got a new Jeep. I've got an 03 Rubicon and the wife has a 14 JKU. She's on the fence about getting a new. Maybe this will help her decide. Thanks for the info.
I think they did a great job, the question mark is long term durability and reliability. Personally, I think it should be as good as the JK was and that gave me 9 relatively problem free years. Only recently had it been acting up even tho I think that is all sorted out. The suspension on the JLs is really incredible tho!
@@coloradomallcrawlers she had a over heating issue that was do to the dealership having air in the system after a new TStat was installed. The fan is very loud now.
Yikes! I had an outside mechanic tell me I needed a new motor, took it to the Jeep dealer who confirmed he was full of it. Talked to some of my buds who knew the 3.6L and they all confirmed the dealer was right. However, the outside mechanic had my Jeep held hostage for 6 days and I work on call 24/7. My awesome co-workers in Grand Junction saved me. That event was what made me start looking into a trade in to go back to a factory warranty and theoretically if it needs something, free rental cars. It is disappointing a bit too tho, if I had time and not a stock based RUclips channel, this JK could be turned into a great built Jeep. Someone will get a great Jeep tho!
I had a 2006 Impact Orange Rubicon 6 speed manual trans. I miss that one. Was a real Billy goat in 4lo! Have a 2016 unlimited hard rock. I’m on the fence of upgrading to the JL.
The JK is pretty great, but for me, since my JK and JL were ordered the same… I’m leaning slightly towards the JL. However, we’ll see how durable it is as that’s what made me love the JK. Thank for watching!
It’s going to stay with stock tire sizes, but I’m a fan of Kenda Klevers… although I like the MTs. May try the RTs on the liberty tho. Thanks for watching!
Hey, live up the valley from you in Rifle. I have a Black Diamond Bronco that should be delivered by the end of the month and would love to tag along on some of your trips!
That’d be cool! Because my schedule is chaotic, it has been tough to organize trips, but I’m hoping to get better next summer. Your bronco would be really cool to see!
Yeah, I'm super excited. I'm like a kid waiting for Christmas! Can't wait to get it out wheeling. Just keep me in mind and I'll do the same with you... till then, 🍻
The Kenda klever comes in 35x10.50x17 you could run that on the stock rim I think you’d like them! It’s actually more like a 34” super tough sidewall. Congrats on the new Jeep dude! I’ve been thinking about trading my 4-door JL in for a 2-door.
That’s a sweet tire for sure, but the JL is staying stock to show people you really don’t need 35s or more. Plus, with the way I wheel, that is more strain on my 44s. Thanks so much! I like the four door, but for me, there’s nothing better than a two door… still we all have different needs and wants! Good luck with the decision making.
Congrats on the JL! John and I have come to find certain things aren't necessarily better than the JK: 1. The 2-piece fenders on the JL are much more easily split when they get hit on rocks. I've had my JK stock fenders for 14 years, and although they have been hit, dented and pop off, they go right back on. John's JL fenders, although they went back on, they had split on the seam, making them look pretty worse for the wear...and this is only after 3 years. 2. I understand why thy made the doors aluminum on the JL to make them lighter, but the drawback to that is how easily they dent. Again, after 14 years of use and abuse with my JK, I don't have any damage to my doors or sills, where John's JL is beat to hell. Again, it's only a 3 year old jeep. :-S 3. The rear license plate on the bumper of the JL is the stupidest design ever. As soon as we saw that we knew instantly that it would be knocked off...and it was. We've also come to find that the rear bumpers don't protect the body as they should. John's JL got all sorts of corner damage on his tub. 4. We also have issues with the top lever mechanism that folds the seat forward. The very first time I used it, it broke in my hand. You would think that anything "Jeep" would be more rugged and durable. All in all, these are the few things we found that weren't up to snuff, but compared to the JK in other aspects...like speed off the line, overall driving performance, ease of soft top...it definitely has its good points. I'm sure you'll see the differences as you drive it. ;-)
Awesome info! I’ve been especially curious about #1 as I have tendency to take out my front passenger fender. John warned me about the rear steel bumper and that’s going to piss me off, but I wanted the front steel. I might add a protection barrier to the body in the rear as I don’t want to alter it from stock in any way for a while… except for lights! You guys have been a great help since you have a 2 door JK and 2 door JL! Thanks for watching!
@@coloradomallcrawlers LOL! I hear ya about the front passenger. That's my Repeat OFFender. ;-) At least you know abut the rear bumper so you can prepare for it. Sadly, we did not. He has since removed it and is just running the Rusty's Corner guard fascia. Maybe you can add those in conjunction with the stock rear bumper. I'm not sure though. And yes...lights. I am still running the stock headlights on my JK and yes they suck bad! I just can't justify spending over $100 for lights. My fog lights help a lot so I just use those. ;-) The LEDs on the JL are awesome! Definitely worth it!
@@jenniferlopes547 I was like you on lights, ran halogens for so long. I was like what’s with all of you and your fancy LEDs lol, however I’ll never go back now. Trying to figure out how I can convert all of the liberty’s lights to LED cheaply. They just help here where we have dumb elk who just chill in the middle of the road 😉
Thank you! They’re doing pretty good so far. I just used them on Poison Spider following the same lines as a vehicle on 39s and it had no issue making things look easy. Still, Moab isn’t the best test so I need some more time with them on Colorado trails.
@@coloradomallcrawlers Nice!! Thanks for the reply. I'm about to move to Boulder with my Ford Ranger. I've just got the stock Hankook's but will want to upgrade for trails out there. Debating between the AT and MT Falken's. I've wheeled a lot in Utah and Oregon, but sandstone and wet dirt is a lot softer than the rocks out in CO!
@@getlearned55 I like MTs as I think they’re more durable for Colorado’s rocky trails. You’ll see in our video after the next one how two KO2 went down and ruined Sean’s day.
The top end needed a rebuild which I did, otherwise nothing was wrong with it when I traded it in. My reasoning for trading it in was it was a 10 year old Jeep and my only vehicle… being an older Jeep, it needed to be built up if it was going to remain a reliable wheeler and daily driver. That went against the premise of the channel where I believe you can wheel them stock all over… so I choose to order a JL and keep it stock. If I had more money, I probably would have built the JK up, and ordered a stock JLU willys as my stock wheeler. Thanks for watching!
Joking aside this was really well edited. I don't care about wranglers lol but it really is interesting to see all the minor changes design and performance wise they did make. Things I never would have thought about . And the front camera. Sheesh I do wish I had that
@@coloradomallcrawlers ok. Because we have a badass fj to come and I know it's gonna look Great. This is your one and only chance to get me back on that trail so we can't mess it up lol
Well, the longer I sit on this train the better, but I’ll likely do extra rest on Friday and take a big attendance hit for a Saturday layoff. But I don’t lay-off much so I should be ok… we really need to film these on weekdays tho, especially popular ones. It’s going to be crowded Saturday.
Just curious why you prefer to keep your vehicles almost completely stock? I never understood reasons such as proving a point, but I could more so understand not having interest, or time or money to upgrade. I mean trailing even a slightly upgraded 4x4 is a ton of fun and it's also a lot of fun doing the upgrades. Different strokes for different folks. Just was wondering what your reasons were.
I’ve been off-roading for over 20 years and every new model gets built up more than the previous model. A stock JL Rubicon is a monster compared to what I use to wheel, so much that I think it makes trails a bit too easy (still feeling it out tho). I’ll likely be wheeling my mom’s Liberty more next year which will get a minimal build if anything. However, about keeping it stock… there’s so many advantages to doing this. 1) it’s my daily driver so it’s a perfect blend for wheeling and daily driving from the factory 2) I’ve never understood people saying Jeeps are unreliable and I believe it’s because I don’t alter it (20 years of Jeep ownership with rock solid reliability). 3) My warranty is completely intact as a stock vehicle… dealers/manufacturers will try to blame any issues on increased stress from mods even if that wasn’t the cause, I don’t have that problem. 4) Wheeling a stock vehicle on trails that your buddies tell people you need for 37s for is a lot of fun 5) Off-roading is about driver skill instead of vehicle capability to me, this is why I think the best driver in our videos so far is Davon in the blue Renegade. 5) I don’t have any time to build my vehicle (I’m on call 24/7, film and edit these with my off time, and have personal responsibilities). Building and not wheeling is a frustrating situation for me. Someone else will build my liberty so I can focus on wheeling and filming in 2022. 6) With time, I don’t have space to work on my Jeeps. 7) Finally, if I were to build something better than what I got now, it’d be extremely expensive to do it my way and I can’t afford it. Most people don’t build them how I’d build them. I appreciate the question and thanks for watching! Merry Christmas!
@@coloradomallcrawlers Thanks for the detailed reply. All of that is understandable. Hopefully the liberty brings you some fun once its done. Merry Christmas to you as well.
Great video, want to provide a bit of constructive critique. Lived in Denver my whole life, crime is always high in down town areas. My other issue was with the wheel section. The explanation is a little lacking. The idea of not liking a product based on visual taste should be made obvious. You could be leading people into buying rims that look just fine when they may not have a major issue. Are those jeep wheels known for cracking?
Thank you! Agreed, but I’m in a keycard access only garage. I’ve lived in worse crime places like downtown Memphis and I spent 5 years living in the area of Miami that a GTA game was based on. Still, I see your point. About the wheels, it’s just visual preference… and I think it’s a valid observation but most definitely an opinion. It is unlikely that any modern factory Jeep wheel will have those kind of issues and I assumed the audience would understand I was talking about appearance. My apologies for not making that clear. Thanks for watching!
Congrats on the JL Rubicon, which in my opinion is vastly superior to the JK. I had an '08 JK X 2 door with that 3.8 mini van engine on 33" Duratracs. It was a bad experience to say the least. I actually prefer my '06 KJ Renegade over that jk. It was great off road on 31" Duratracs. Anyway, your JL Rubicon has 33" tires stock with perfect stock height. There's absolutely no need to ever change it, ruining its geometry and more importantly your wallet. It's plenty capable and proves to all the misinformed that a modest lift and tires with good off road instincts allows you to wheel most anywhere.
Thank you! It feels like an evolution of refreshed JK, but I’m hoping long term that you’re right. I wasn’t impressed with my 2010 JK either mostly because the interior scratched easily and would prefer my 05 KJ over that also. My 2012 JK was awesome tho, still is. I know the guy who bought it and we’ll likely wheel together sometime in the future. I agree!
@@coloradomallcrawlers I'm blessed to have an '05 TJ Rocky Mtn, 4.0 I6, 3.73's, Dana 44 with ls diff. Modest 2" Old Man Emu coil lift w/ Fox 2.0 Shox and Fox ss, Currectlync steering, M.O.R.E Steering box brace, JKS quick disconnects, Freedom Off Road front lower adj control arms, rest are fixed Detroit Axles and a transfer case drop kit. I can honestly say, this TJ is amazing on and especially off road. And I encourage anyone looking to improve their TJ's handling and capability to do this build. It was a lot of trial and error but certainly worth it. Now thinking of either Raptor lining it or painting it because this TJ has some rough areas. I'm more than likely going to Raptor it since I like that rugged look and will never have to deal with off road pinstriping again.
What color is it? Lol, I just bought a 2004 Rubicon so my next one will probably not be a wrangler. You should definitely watch my next video tho… my TJ vs my JL
If you are gonna lift and tires get a Jk or you have to go with a Jl rubicon. The jl sport doesn’t even have a Dana 44 rear anymore. Why I bought a gladiator,2 Dana 44s. If it’s gonna stay stock you might get away with a Dana 30 and 35, but my bud already has a replacement axle in his 2 year old jlu, cheesy axles
True, but all of the JL axles are all supposed to be upgraded over the equivalent JK axles. However only time will tell if they truly are. Lots of factors play a role in axle failure, but it’s definitely nice that Jeep put 44s on the JT. Thanks for watching!
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Great video! I love that you plan on keeping your new Jeep stock. I'm tired of seeing videos of Rubicon's with 37" tires, 4 inch lifts and custom suspension systems, etc. Most of us don't have limitless cash to drop on these mods. For me the ultimate video would be your new Rubicon, along with a Willys, Sport, and KL to see how they compare and in the real world.
Thank you so much! That’d be a great video and I’d love to shoot it… the difficulty is finding people with those vehicles who would want to wheel. I’m lucky enough that Davon and his girlfriend will take on my Rubicon with their new Broncos (his is a 4 door, hers is a 2 door… but they’re still waiting on them to be built). It might be tough to find someone with a stock 4 door JLUR willing to wheel it on a hard trail. Still, I know they’re out there. Making scheduling work is a big challenge for us as I work a lot. In the meantime, I try to focus on the trail vs the vehicles, but I get seeing different vehicles do a trail helps. Sorry if this hard to understand, I worked overnight and need a nap.
Nice comparison Dewey! Looking forward to more videos. Great idea adding info of what trail the clips were from....I liked that!
Thanks buddy! I just got the ability to edit from external hard drives so I’m starting to play around with older clips.
Jks are my favorite. Love that you're keeping everything stock. New subscriber.
I wish I could have kept it. The JL has treated me well, but that was a special JK. Welcome to the channel!
Congrats on the new whip… also so close to 5k subs! Congrats on that as well also.
Thanks buddy! I knew I was close but I stopped paying attention, that’s awesome tho!
It's spelt wip, and it's short for work in progress. A brand new JL is most definitely not a wip. haha.
Congrats on the new Jeep man! Many new adventures ahead
Thank you! Im excited for those!
Congrats on the new JL. We love our JL 4 door.
Thank you!
Congrats on your new JL looking forward to see it on the trails
Thank you!
Congrats on the JL! Nicely optioned out 2 door!
Love my 4 door but I’ve always had a soft spot for the 2 doors. Enjoy your new Jeep!! 🙌🏻
Thank you! 4 doors are cool with all that room for sure too!
Great video I just got my 2021 jeep Willy’s sport white I love it Keep the videos coming
You’re going to love it!
Really great comparison. Congrats on the new Jeep!
Thank you buddy!
Congrats on new jl, I have a new 2022 2door on order with manual & just subscribed to your channel
Nice! You’ll love it… it’s a sweet Jeep! The manual is fun too. Thanks for joining the channel… got some sweet trails coming soon!
Biggest difference is all the aluminum. Pros: less weight, better fuel mileage,ride and wheeling abilities. Cons: dents like a beer can. All in all the JL is just leaps and bounds better than the JK. Rides better, wheels better, feels better. The improvements are very noticeable especially going back n forth in them as we do. Jenn does love her old rattle trap tho🤣
You think she’ll ever make the switch?
@@coloradomallcrawlers nope, she just keeps buying new parts!🤣
@@collaborationexperimentati9227 love it!
I bought a 2021 Hella Yella 2 door Rubicon myself. Pretty close to yours but I also have the tailgate reinforcement and the satin black grille. To me the Jeep looks really awesome with that satin black grille. I have kept it pretty stock except I opted for aftermarket bumpers front and back. I don’t want to take away the iconic look of the Jeep. I keep it pretty stock and enjoy it just the way it is and it’s honestly a blast. Thankfully I have mine garaged so in the summer I can keep the Jeep stripped down, tube doors installed and cargo net on the back so I can take the doggies with me.
Awesome! Sounds like you have good taste 😉
Nice ride! It has been over 40 years since I owned my CJ (61 Willy's CJ5), they sure have come a long ways since then! 😂
I really like the CJ5… my co-workers have been showing me some nice ones on marketplace and I’m like, you know I can’t afford that 😂
Miss called….. 🚂 lol ✌️keep up great videos. I’ve been considering selling my JK and going to JL as well. Still on the fence.
Lol, I got back into cell service soon after wrapping this one up, luckily we didn’t have power to run anything lol. The all nighter I’m on now is killing me tho… was hoping for a long nap, but instead he ran us till just now. You can’t go wrong with either in my opinion.
Congrats on the new Jeep
Thank you!
Congrats Dewie!
Thanks buddy!
Congrats on the new JL! I really like the Falcon Wildpeaks that came my my 2020 JT-R. Just hit 24k miles and they are still wearing really well. Aside from adding a winch, bed rack for RTT my JT wil remain stock as well.
Thank you and good to know! I’m hoping to have a better feel for them after the winter!
Awesome man ! Cool new jeep !
I would not want that Ole jeep you traded in. It's had the bottom knocked out of it. 🤣😂
Thanks man! The bottom is in good shape tho 😉
That's great you got a new Jeep. I've got an 03 Rubicon and the wife has a 14 JKU. She's on the fence about getting a new. Maybe this will help her decide. Thanks for the info.
I think they did a great job, the question mark is long term durability and reliability. Personally, I think it should be as good as the JK was and that gave me 9 relatively problem free years. Only recently had it been acting up even tho I think that is all sorted out. The suspension on the JLs is really incredible tho!
@@coloradomallcrawlers she had a over heating issue that was do to the dealership having air in the system after a new TStat was installed. The fan is very loud now.
Yikes! I had an outside mechanic tell me I needed a new motor, took it to the Jeep dealer who confirmed he was full of it. Talked to some of my buds who knew the 3.6L and they all confirmed the dealer was right. However, the outside mechanic had my Jeep held hostage for 6 days and I work on call 24/7. My awesome co-workers in Grand Junction saved me. That event was what made me start looking into a trade in to go back to a factory warranty and theoretically if it needs something, free rental cars. It is disappointing a bit too tho, if I had time and not a stock based RUclips channel, this JK could be turned into a great built Jeep. Someone will get a great Jeep tho!
I had a 2006 Impact Orange Rubicon 6 speed manual trans. I miss that one. Was a real Billy goat in 4lo!
Have a 2016 unlimited hard rock. I’m on the fence of upgrading to the JL.
I have a 2016 Rubicon Hardrock. I also have a 2018 Rubicon. The tech on the 2018 is cool, but I love my JK😀
The JK is pretty great, but for me, since my JK and JL were ordered the same… I’m leaning slightly towards the JL. However, we’ll see how durable it is as that’s what made me love the JK. Thank for watching!
Dude, you should look into the Kenda Klever rt 35x10.50x17, I just put a set on my JL stock rims and I love it very capable tire!
It’s going to stay with stock tire sizes, but I’m a fan of Kenda Klevers… although I like the MTs. May try the RTs on the liberty tho. Thanks for watching!
@@coloradomallcrawlers I love them, the RTs are much better all around tire imo
Hey, live up the valley from you in Rifle. I have a Black Diamond Bronco that should be delivered by the end of the month and would love to tag along on some of your trips!
That’d be cool! Because my schedule is chaotic, it has been tough to organize trips, but I’m hoping to get better next summer. Your bronco would be really cool to see!
Yeah, I'm super excited. I'm like a kid waiting for Christmas! Can't wait to get it out wheeling. Just keep me in mind and I'll do the same with you... till then, 🍻
The Kenda klever comes in 35x10.50x17 you could run that on the stock rim I think you’d like them! It’s actually more like a 34” super tough sidewall. Congrats on the new Jeep dude!
I’ve been thinking about trading my 4-door JL in for a 2-door.
That’s a sweet tire for sure, but the JL is staying stock to show people you really don’t need 35s or more. Plus, with the way I wheel, that is more strain on my 44s. Thanks so much! I like the four door, but for me, there’s nothing better than a two door… still we all have different needs and wants! Good luck with the decision making.
@@coloradomallcrawlers yeah I know what you mean! I’ve done a lot of wheeling on my 32’s lol engineer pass was so much fun!
Absolutely excellent! Nicely done, good sir👍👍😎🇺🇸 They are all yella! Neat👍👍
Thank you!
Congrats on the JL! John and I have come to find certain things aren't necessarily better than the JK:
1. The 2-piece fenders on the JL are much more easily split when they get hit on rocks. I've had my JK stock fenders for 14 years, and although they have been hit, dented and pop off, they go right back on. John's JL fenders, although they went back on, they had split on the seam, making them look pretty worse for the wear...and this is only after 3 years.
2. I understand why thy made the doors aluminum on the JL to make them lighter, but the drawback to that is how easily they dent. Again, after 14 years of use and abuse with my JK, I don't have any damage to my doors or sills, where John's JL is beat to hell. Again, it's only a 3 year old jeep. :-S
3. The rear license plate on the bumper of the JL is the stupidest design ever. As soon as we saw that we knew instantly that it would be knocked off...and it was. We've also come to find that the rear bumpers don't protect the body as they should. John's JL got all sorts of corner damage on his tub.
4. We also have issues with the top lever mechanism that folds the seat forward. The very first time I used it, it broke in my hand. You would think that anything "Jeep" would be more rugged and durable.
All in all, these are the few things we found that weren't up to snuff, but compared to the JK in other aspects...like speed off the line, overall driving performance, ease of soft top...it definitely has its good points. I'm sure you'll see the differences as you drive it. ;-)
Awesome info! I’ve been especially curious about #1 as I have tendency to take out my front passenger fender. John warned me about the rear steel bumper and that’s going to piss me off, but I wanted the front steel. I might add a protection barrier to the body in the rear as I don’t want to alter it from stock in any way for a while… except for lights! You guys have been a great help since you have a 2 door JK and 2 door JL! Thanks for watching!
@@coloradomallcrawlers LOL! I hear ya about the front passenger. That's my Repeat OFFender. ;-) At least you know abut the rear bumper so you can prepare for it. Sadly, we did not. He has since removed it and is just running the Rusty's Corner guard fascia. Maybe you can add those in conjunction with the stock rear bumper. I'm not sure though. And yes...lights. I am still running the stock headlights on my JK and yes they suck bad! I just can't justify spending over $100 for lights. My fog lights help a lot so I just use those. ;-) The LEDs on the JL are awesome! Definitely worth it!
@@jenniferlopes547 I was like you on lights, ran halogens for so long. I was like what’s with all of you and your fancy LEDs lol, however I’ll never go back now. Trying to figure out how I can convert all of the liberty’s lights to LED cheaply. They just help here where we have dumb elk who just chill in the middle of the road 😉
the 2-door rubi looks great in hella yella with the black fenders and top.
Thanks! I agree.
I LOVE the 8.4 Uconnect in my KL Trailhawk.
Yeah, it’s pretty sweet!
Nice thorough video! How are those Falkens holding up?
Thank you! They’re doing pretty good so far. I just used them on Poison Spider following the same lines as a vehicle on 39s and it had no issue making things look easy. Still, Moab isn’t the best test so I need some more time with them on Colorado trails.
@@coloradomallcrawlers Nice!! Thanks for the reply. I'm about to move to Boulder with my Ford Ranger. I've just got the stock Hankook's but will want to upgrade for trails out there. Debating between the AT and MT Falken's. I've wheeled a lot in Utah and Oregon, but sandstone and wet dirt is a lot softer than the rocks out in CO!
@@getlearned55 I like MTs as I think they’re more durable for Colorado’s rocky trails. You’ll see in our video after the next one how two KO2 went down and ruined Sean’s day.
@@coloradomallcrawlers Oof, two down in one day is rough!!
Did you use the tread lightly discount? You ordered the exact spec I would except in gecko green.
On the JK I did, this one, I used affiliate pricing using my work’s code. I think you’ll like the JL!
Sorry if I missed it, but what was wrong, or broken on the JK? Congrats on the JL!
The top end needed a rebuild which I did, otherwise nothing was wrong with it when I traded it in. My reasoning for trading it in was it was a 10 year old Jeep and my only vehicle… being an older Jeep, it needed to be built up if it was going to remain a reliable wheeler and daily driver. That went against the premise of the channel where I believe you can wheel them stock all over… so I choose to order a JL and keep it stock. If I had more money, I probably would have built the JK up, and ordered a stock JLU willys as my stock wheeler. Thanks for watching!
@@coloradomallcrawlers Makes sense. Unfortunately it seems all the 3.6L's (especially the 2012's) have head issues eventually.
Yeah, but it’s a great motor… that’s why I stuck with it in the JL. Plus JKs are sweet Jeeps!
Great Video , thanks
Thanks for watching… I’ll be filming a review soon. The JL is great, just need to do some towing with it to make sure I have all aspects evaluated.
So many jeep letters. But my black bear cameo damn I looked good and rugged lol
Joking aside this was really well edited. I don't care about wranglers lol but it really is interesting to see all the minor changes design and performance wise they did make. Things I never would have thought about . And the front camera. Sheesh I do wish I had that
Lol, going to work now, but it should hopefully work out for Saturday… granted my return trip is on Friday.
@@coloradomallcrawlers ok. Because we have a badass fj to come and I know it's gonna look Great. This is your one and only chance to get me back on that trail so we can't mess it up lol
Well, the longer I sit on this train the better, but I’ll likely do extra rest on Friday and take a big attendance hit for a Saturday layoff. But I don’t lay-off much so I should be ok… we really need to film these on weekdays tho, especially popular ones. It’s going to be crowded Saturday.
I know that but I can't magically make vacation days appear when I don't have them and I can't take the hit of not getting paid for the day I miss
I like the JK.
The JK isn’t a bad Jeep at all.
sweet video, thanks
Thanks for watching!
Just curious why you prefer to keep your vehicles almost completely stock? I never understood reasons such as proving a point, but I could more so understand not having interest, or time or money to upgrade. I mean trailing even a slightly upgraded 4x4 is a ton of fun and it's also a lot of fun doing the upgrades. Different strokes for different folks. Just was wondering what your reasons were.
I’ve been off-roading for over 20 years and every new model gets built up more than the previous model. A stock JL Rubicon is a monster compared to what I use to wheel, so much that I think it makes trails a bit too easy (still feeling it out tho). I’ll likely be wheeling my mom’s Liberty more next year which will get a minimal build if anything. However, about keeping it stock… there’s so many advantages to doing this. 1) it’s my daily driver so it’s a perfect blend for wheeling and daily driving from the factory 2) I’ve never understood people saying Jeeps are unreliable and I believe it’s because I don’t alter it (20 years of Jeep ownership with rock solid reliability). 3) My warranty is completely intact as a stock vehicle… dealers/manufacturers will try to blame any issues on increased stress from mods even if that wasn’t the cause, I don’t have that problem. 4) Wheeling a stock vehicle on trails that your buddies tell people you need for 37s for is a lot of fun 5) Off-roading is about driver skill instead of vehicle capability to me, this is why I think the best driver in our videos so far is Davon in the blue Renegade. 5) I don’t have any time to build my vehicle (I’m on call 24/7, film and edit these with my off time, and have personal responsibilities). Building and not wheeling is a frustrating situation for me. Someone else will build my liberty so I can focus on wheeling and filming in 2022. 6) With time, I don’t have space to work on my Jeeps. 7) Finally, if I were to build something better than what I got now, it’d be extremely expensive to do it my way and I can’t afford it. Most people don’t build them how I’d build them. I appreciate the question and thanks for watching! Merry Christmas!
@@coloradomallcrawlers Thanks for the detailed reply. All of that is understandable. Hopefully the liberty brings you some fun once its done. Merry Christmas to you as well.
Great video, want to provide a bit of constructive critique. Lived in Denver my whole life, crime is always high in down town areas. My other issue was with the wheel section. The explanation is a little lacking. The idea of not liking a product based on visual taste should be made obvious. You could be leading people into buying rims that look just fine when they may not have a major issue. Are those jeep wheels known for cracking?
Thank you! Agreed, but I’m in a keycard access only garage. I’ve lived in worse crime places like downtown Memphis and I spent 5 years living in the area of Miami that a GTA game was based on. Still, I see your point. About the wheels, it’s just visual preference… and I think it’s a valid observation but most definitely an opinion. It is unlikely that any modern factory Jeep wheel will have those kind of issues and I assumed the audience would understand I was talking about appearance. My apologies for not making that clear. Thanks for watching!
Congrats on the JL Rubicon, which in my opinion is vastly superior to the JK. I had an '08 JK X 2 door with that 3.8 mini van engine on 33" Duratracs. It was a bad experience to say the least. I actually prefer my '06 KJ Renegade over that jk. It was great off road on 31" Duratracs. Anyway, your JL Rubicon has 33" tires stock with perfect stock height. There's absolutely no need to ever change it, ruining its geometry and more importantly your wallet. It's plenty capable and proves to all the misinformed that a modest lift and tires with good off road instincts allows you to wheel most anywhere.
Thank you! It feels like an evolution of refreshed JK, but I’m hoping long term that you’re right. I wasn’t impressed with my 2010 JK either mostly because the interior scratched easily and would prefer my 05 KJ over that also. My 2012 JK was awesome tho, still is. I know the guy who bought it and we’ll likely wheel together sometime in the future. I agree!
@@coloradomallcrawlers I'm blessed to have an '05 TJ Rocky Mtn, 4.0 I6, 3.73's, Dana 44 with ls diff. Modest 2" Old Man Emu coil lift w/ Fox 2.0 Shox and Fox ss, Currectlync steering, M.O.R.E Steering box brace, JKS quick disconnects, Freedom Off Road front lower adj control arms, rest are fixed Detroit Axles and a transfer case drop kit.
I can honestly say, this TJ is amazing on and especially off road. And I encourage anyone looking to improve their TJ's handling and capability to do this build. It was a lot of trial and error but certainly worth it. Now thinking of either Raptor lining it or painting it because this TJ has some rough areas. I'm more than likely going to Raptor it since I like that rugged look and will never have to deal with off road pinstriping again.
Paint matched fenders are rare and goated.
But more expensive to fix if you off-road hard trails.
hi! are you interesting in testing a new set of LED tail lights for JK?
Hi, I appreciate you reaching out, but no thank you… I do not take sponsored products.
@@coloradomallcrawlers OK
Now tell me how to deal with my factory order that did not show up as I ordered. NOR was I told there was any problem ordering it.
Sounds like a dealer issue. I’d reorder from another dealership and not take what you did not want.
Hey you miss your tj? I'll give you my mint tj sport for any wrangler 2 door 2015 or newer 😅😂
What color is it? Lol, I just bought a 2004 Rubicon so my next one will probably not be a wrangler. You should definitely watch my next video tho… my TJ vs my JL
@@coloradomallcrawlers I believe it's called steel blue pearl and I'll definitely stay tuned
If you are gonna lift and tires get a Jk or you have to go with a Jl rubicon. The jl sport doesn’t even have a Dana 44 rear anymore. Why I bought a gladiator,2 Dana 44s. If it’s gonna stay stock you might get away with a Dana 30 and 35, but my bud already has a replacement axle in his 2 year old jlu, cheesy axles
True, but all of the JL axles are all supposed to be upgraded over the equivalent JK axles. However only time will tell if they truly are. Lots of factors play a role in axle failure, but it’s definitely nice that Jeep put 44s on the JT. Thanks for watching!
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