Pecron E2000LFP: The New King of Solar Generators for 2022?
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2024
- In this video, we'll take a look at the Pecron E2000LFP: plus how it stacks up against the Bluetti AC200Max. If you're interested in picking one up, you can get it here: cityprepping.tv/3d5A45m ... Use coupon code "CITYPRE2000LFP" at checkout.
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If you're interested in picking one up, you can get it here: cityprepping.tv/3d5A45m ... Use coupon code "CITYPRE2000LFP" at checkout. Use this guide to compare the Pecron E2000 to the other models: cityprepping.tv/3wyZNJp
Really appreciate this review as I have watched your other video reviewing best generators a few times. Any chance you have recommendations on the best solar panels to use with the Bluetti or Pecron? The folding option shown looks nice, but I'm trying to see what is most cost effective.
@@porterhillbilly 2000 watt continuous or roughly 16.67 amps
Thank you for the review & coupon code. I just picked one up. Excited about the lithium iron phosphate.
Anybody have suggestions on alternate packable solar panels? I like the Pecron panels, but $450 for a 200W, 36V panel feels like a premium price.... Or am i nuts and should just bite the bullet here?
@@angelo9826 dokio 300w on Amazon are not bad for intermittent use, and much less expensive although lower voltage.... Could run multiple in series
Just a couple of clarifications from your video. You mentioned the Pecron as having an advantage in solar charging. This may be true out of the box, but Bluetti makes a DC charging enhancer that allows another 500 through the AC input. So a single AC200Max is capable of 1400 watts solar input. Each expansion battery can use the same device so if you have two B230/300 batteries you can charge with a total of 2400 watts!
Same thing on AC input. The Max ships with the 400 watt but it's compatible with their 500 watt charger. The solar input adapter can be used with a second AC charger. You would have 900 with the standard plus upgraded charger. If you happen to have two of the 500s then you could have 1000 watts of AC input.
So the AC input is much closer than indicated. And the solar advantage ultimately goes to Bluetti!
I want to see negative reviews as well as positive reviews. You said a known brand did not deserve your recommendation. I'd like to know what that brand is. When you are compensated for your time to study a product it comes across as payment to keep quiet when it fails your expectations. You receive an expensive generator for free, that is also compensation. Warning viewers of products to steer away from is helpful too. We value your opinion.
If it helps, I don't see a very popular model sold through "4Patriots" simply called the Patriot Power 1800. It's one of the earlier of these products but always seemed a solid choice. So I'm wondering why he never mentions it. But I agree, I'd almost rather hear why the ones that didn't make his list, failed to.
@@CaptTony107 the patriot power generator is the biggest rip off known to man. They want 2500 bucks for
@@advancedxdirective What "gig" will be up? A review does not necessarily mean it gets that person's approval. A valid reviewer should have reviews that include those brands that are simply underperforming when compared to others. If what you say is accurate, then I would think Chris has even more reason to review it in some fashion. Perhaps he could do so convincingly just by looking at the unit's specs and opining based on that since most people have no clue what the numbers mean anyway. I'm not sure how being honest would ever hurt him or any other reviewer.
@@CaptTony107 Everything from 4Patriots is junk. Buyer beware.
If you have access to a lot of pannels , this is the one . If you want to power your whole house , don't buy portable solar generators .
Basically what people really need is a charge for refrigerator, chest freezee and a heater if needed in the winter and maybe something to cook with. I could care less about anything else. Keeping food cold, my family warm and be able to feed them. Thank you for the video!
Exactly
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How many watts is that heater going to pull? Or are you suggesting heat comes from LP, NG or some other fossil fuel?
I would say be very careful about leaning too hard on your “generator” for heating or cooking in an emergency circumstance (camping you’re probably fine if you know your depletion window). Ideally you’re using other tools for those. It takes a massive amount of energy.
I’d suggest exploring rocket stoves for cooking. There are a myriad of of solutions for staying warm.
That is a great way to approach it. I always have the idea that I need to have a system that will run everything, but that is cost prohibitive and I don't have the physical capabilities right now to build my own. Thanks for that simple plan!
Fantastic, ive been wanting something just like this for some time now but initial cost has made me hesitant. Ill wait to see how the expansion batteries do but if all goes well this seems to check all the boxes for me. Thanks brother, i appreciate all you do for the community!
That hurricane lantern in back really warms the room up.
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Thanks!!! I’m trying not to stall out and become stagnant in my decision making of a solar generator purchase. There are so many options and variables. And because of the price for most of them for most of us, we have to make sure that we buy once cry once. I was waiting for your take on this product. Thanks again and be safe.
Bluetti are great but right now most of us in Europe would settle for a wood burning stove! Dire intel up each day guys👍 🙏 ✝️
Start hoarding firewood. The new Euro.
eco flow looks good too...so many out there it is difficult to choose...
@@kissthesky40 Agreed. Five Euro notes will make great firelighters 👍
@@sherrcon There are and it certainly is. I recommend whatever brand, you look for a system which uses Lifepo4 batteries.
And a mini steam turbine - my dream. But it's difficult to find.
Thanks for all your hard work. I almost bought this one but we went with the bluetti just because it has been on the market longer after watching your solar generator video. By the time I can afford another unit this will be at the top of my list(so far).
That looks like a solid unit. Thanks for the review and good explanation of what the unit can power in your home 👍👍
Very informative Kris. Thanks for all your hard work.
I am interested in seeing more solar generator videos. I know you've done many. Just more and updated, I guess.
Thanks for your time & info. I appreciate you!
Thank you for simplifying the information for people like myself. I was so confused what to buy for solar generator, now I know what is the best product to invest in. Thank you!
I've been in the market for a solar generator for a couple months now, and I watched your previous video a few times. Thanks for another great video to use for comparison.
Did you get something yet?
Good afternoon from Syracuse NY brother and thank you for sharing your videoes
Thanks Mr. Kris! We've been seriously studying solar generators lately and then you post this! Thankyou! In a down grid situation all we need to power is a small window AC unit, my O2 concentrator and hubby's C-Pap. We have a countertop icemaker for ice in a cooler to cool down some things but that would be a luxury. Getting ready to camp in our own homes! Bless you and your team, Mr. Kris!
Good info - thanks. We have O2 concentrator and 2 CPaps -- Will look for window AC unit. No need to power house HVAC when one room chilling is all we really need. Seems like this unit (after 2 of the soon-to-arrive batteries) will do the trick! Best wishes to you...
Did you end up purchasing the pecron or other brand
@@donaldricher8815 Good morning, Mr. Donald. My husband ended up purchasing the ECO flow that comes with 4 solar panels. We tried it out during Feast of Tabernacles and just like all things we see pro's & cons. I think we may go ahead and bite the bullet and get the Pecron that Mr. Kirs is teaching about here. Its gonna take another chunk out of savings but better to have our savings in energy then "someone else's hands"!
@@donaldricher8815 purchased Pecron since expandable to watthours that I need.
Expansion batteries now (11/3/2022) available for pre-order. 2 max can be attached and only for 2000. Cable included and battery can be recharged separately from 2000 unit...solar, lighter or AC from wall.
I ordered mine several months ago and it just arrived. Be prepared to wait.
So after watching your video, we purchased the Pecron E2000LFP. We have not yet received it. We got the discount using the code which was nice, but it would have been nice if it was made known that they use a bank outside of the US and therefore VISA charges a 3% fee which in my case was an additional $53.22.
Thanks for sharing that.
Skinner. Did you get your pecron. If so how is it performing
@@donaldricher8815 I did get it, however; I have not really had an opportunity to put it to through it's paces. I have had it hooked up to a Craftsman LED work light that has 4500 lumens at 46 watts. I honestly can't tell you how much it used, but I had it running it for about 2 hrs without any issues.
Would love to see stuff that doesn't meet your standards as well and why. That's almost as helpful as reviewing the good stuff.
One of those learn from your successes and failures types of things. I get it. I think he is trying not to give exposure to those items because some subs may still go with those items which could come back to bite them in the end. I know it’s the viewers choice at the end of the day but because he seems to really care what we consider because our lives may end up depending on it that idea may not float with him. But I totally get what you are saying. Good point.
Thank you for the info on this portable generator. I need to go back and rewatch your other video. I’ve got to make a decision.
Thanks for your hard work team.
Thanks for your reviews! I'm very sitisfied with my Pecron e2000lfp, thank u for your code!!
Awesome stuff, very helpful thank you!
I am going to look into this battery. I've been the market for a while so I appreciate the review.
I’ve been watching this manufacturer for a while. I’ve been hesitant because it does not have the 30amp, which I will need. I like that it’s not as heavy. I hope they update with the 30amp by the end of the year.
In my camper van I prefer those type of inverters versus those ones you got to hook up to your batteries in your vehicle less wiring less Construction and it's independent of your batteries from your camper van.. so those are a great choice for camping or for Van life or for alternative living as what I do..
Looks good to me! I'll need to grab on after grabbing a freeze dryer
Thank you very much Kris. This was a very good review. This us a good alternative.
Fair enough. Good review. I just bought the Bluetti AC500. But this is an impressive unit at that price point. Expansion seems to be the name of the game now so it pretty much requires us to make a bet on proprietary technology.
This is great, would love to see one of these every month to see who's the winner - when one of us is ready to buy we have a solid choice based on your testing results! ty
Just wanna throw in a recommendation in here for a longer uptime.
When it comes to lower power consumption devices that use a charger to step down voltage, like laptops, smartphones and etc, I recommend using the DC outputs of the generator instead of using the AC outputs with chargers. This is because the chargers those devices ship with aren't 100% efficient and don't have the perfect power factor. Most smartphones and laptops these days make use of USB-C to get power and this generator has USB-C PD 100W ports, so a USB-C to USB-C cable makes a lot more sense in this case. You'll get A LOT longer runtime this way.
Additionally, I might go as far as recommending using DC whenever possible, for a longer uptime, for example, if you want to power LEDs with this, there are 12V DC LED bulbs out there, this way you won't have to deal with wasted power in a form of a bad power factor that is typical for common LED bulbs.
Great recommendations. Power conversion and insertion losses are the real thing for portable devices.
And use 5 blade USB fans instead of an inefficient AC box fan. My box fan draws up to 100 watts and my USB fand draw 2 to 4 watts. Air output from them is fine. Plus you can power them directly with most folding solar panels during the day without a battery.
@@baneverything5580 Don't forget 12 volt fans than run off the cigarette lighter port.
@@ronbotex I`m looking at buying a couple of those for my camper. I`m trying to set things up, even cooking, to run directly from solar panels without the need for batteries during the day. Many 12 volt mini rice cookers appear to be perfectly matched for a direct connection to a 100 watt solar panel. I`ve discovered that Onite LED light bulbs and USB fans can be powered directly from 100 and 120 watt folding portable solar panels that aren`t directly in the sun.
I`ve bought a lot of USB powered battery chargers and rechargeable radios to use with my folding panels and I`m slowly getting everything wired up for a full off grid situation like the aftermath of hurricanes or national emergency. I have FINALLY been able to get the beginnings of an off grid solar system for a small air conditioner now that LiFeP04 battery prices have came down. But now I need more solar panels which I`ll have to buy as I can afford them one at a time. Parts are so expensive that getting backup inverters and such is nearly impossible on a fixed income.
@@baneverything5580 Which 5 blade USB fans do you use? The brand-name?
I have been checking out solar option for awhile. I am not very well versed in all the amp requirements and such but like other people had said I want something that will run a refrigerator, a heater and provide enough power for me to take a shower, in case of a power outage. I'm just wondering how well this model would work for that. Plus, I live way up North and in the dead of Winter would this be able to be solar charged or is it going to conk out on me when I need it most? Would this unit still charge with very limited sunlight?
I have the smaller one that I use in my toolbox at work. It powers my toolbox and use the charger plugged in. This allows me to run my lights, fan, laptop, monitor and tool battery chargers all day. I can also plug my toolbox in during the day if I choose and it just runs everything that way. It’s a fairly harsh environment as it’s out in the shop with a lot of dust and heat and vibrations from moving the toolbox and has run flawlessly. I will be buying the 2kw or 3kw one for my house soon since it worked so well. I love these boxes. I have another 500wh one that I use on our boat to power our mobile fridge so that I don’t have to risk running the boat battery dead. I also use both batteries when camping.
Jared. Did you get your pecron. If so, how is it performing
I live in Lancaster not to far north of you and this would be perfect for us. Thank you fo your information. I’ve been looking for the best unit for us.
Thank you for the information.
Thank you for what you do sir.
You got me. I used your code. Now just waiting for arrival
How should these be stored if it won't be used til emergencies? Should they be fully charged all the time, partially charged, or drained completely?
Thanks. I think I'm making progress in working my way out of being frozen by indecision because of the amount of information and choices. You're helping me with that. One comparison I would like to see is how different units would be affected by an EMP. It seems those that operate via apps would loose functionality. True or false? Should they be kept in a faraday bag? Help.
So you have aircraft connectors? On both ends? How do you connect a Panel MC4?
Also, the PV input is 29.4-40V, 20A maximum. I assume you need to wire two solar Panels in series(18V*2=36V) to charge the Pecron?
Thanks for the info
I hear that's a nice one. Thank You for sharing.
Could this be used as a sort of pass through uninterrupted power source for an on grid tiny home? Sometimes for only a few hours other times for a-day or two. If I had this wired into a few essential circuits to keep them on during those times it would be great.
Great information, a man of integrity and honesty! How about running for governor? Thank you for sharing this was really helpful!
Enjoying this channel very much. Thanks for the excellent production quality and clear explanations.
I’m trying to figure out what if anything I can replace my deafening 9000w Champion dual fuel generator with. I can likely get by with far less but I still need 220v 30amp tho for my house water pump and purification system.
Does this mean an additional inverter to get that voltage step up? Or is 220 still beyond solar generator territory?
Thanks for doing this review. Have you tried the new Duracell ones
QUESTION ? I went to the website and I added the E2000LFP with the solar kit but the discount code you provided doesn't apply. This availabile code would be appreciated when purchasing the whole set up. Can you see if it's possible.?
Hi Chris, I really like this charger you are talking about, however I do have a question. It shows said unit and it shows and talks about the things that comes with it, my question is where would I get the solar panels? Are the solar panels like anything else as in good better best? How do you choose a solar panel? I seem to get lost at this part of the process. I saw you had folding ones in your driveway. Are they from that company or did you get them elsewhere? Are they a universal fit? One plug works in anything or is each machine have a unique plug? Can you see my dilemma? Hope to hear from you. Thanks Chris
This is living proof that you don't have to buy an expensive top brand to have at work buy an expensive ones doesn't work all the time some of the Cheapo inverters are just as good as you just proved yourself my friend..
thanks for the info
Thanks for another informative prepping video. I agree that this Pecron is enticing for many, including myself since I've been comparing most to the Bluetti AC200Max. However, I feel that there's one technical detail you didn't focus on that eliminates this as an option for me and perhaps others. The Voc is only between 32-95V. That limits this to only four 180W panels with an open circuit voltage of ~22V each. The 1200W of PV input is not technically accurate since it includes using 600W of AC input, per the Pecron site. By comparison, the AC200Max can handle 10-145V. It is still much cheaper than the Bluetti and 4 180W panels might be enough for most people's needs. Keep up the great work and thanks for being so up-front about your reviews and the compensation for the reviewed products.
There are two 600w mppt inputs on the device and a 100w solar input as well for up to 1,300 watts solar. High voltage is better for a longer distance to your solar panels due to a lower voltage drop. But 2 mppts at a lower voltage is better for shading because the shading of one 600w area won't lower the total input power from the second 600w array. You could also have the 2 arrays point in different directions, like two sides of a tiny home.
Very good video.
thanks for your help...
These numbers are above my pay grade as far as power capabilities but I am trying to run a hot tub ( 110v w a 1340 watt heater ) are units such as this powerful enough . I would prefer to run it while connected to solar panels , what type of run time could I expect ? Very thorough breakdown , thank you .
I would like to know about connecting solar panels to the generator.
Hi great comparison! I made a few LifePO4 batteries one is 24v, 3KWh battery. Can I use this batter to charge the E2000? Second question: if I can use this battery can I hook my solar panels to the external 3K battery via a controller to charge the system?
With the current state of features being promoted by other power generator, I would add the UPS feature as an important feature for the preparedness community. My number one asset is to automatically protect the frig and freezer at any instance of time. Since the Pecron does not have a build-in UPS, I would place it on a second tier but recommended product since it's a capably solution but only after I bring it out and turn it on. The cost of the expansion battery will be another consideration. Since it's not available at this time, you cannot properly evaluate the economics of the system.
Sometimes you can almost buy a new power station for the cost of the expansion battery!
Thanks for taking the time to provide information on this Pecron model Kris!
Does the external power block run a fan ALL the time, like Bluetti?
Can one use any solar panels to charge this unit? Or is this like the Jackery, where the solar panel connectors are proprietary?
Thanks Kris
Nice video and sheet, How much Amper is the DC output... One of the let called "extra features" that bluetti have is that 25-30A DC output... For camper vans is ideal.. cannot find the info about pecron.. Thanx
How many watts do your wall chargers pull? I'm seeing 1200 watts from the wall and only 450w going into the power station. Seems EXTREMELY inefficient using the wall charger!
Do you have information about the specific brand and model of the LiFePo4 battery inside this E2000LFP?
do you ground the pv panels? I plan to use those bulky pv panels used on the roof instead since those are cheaper. Thanks for this amazing video.
Couple of things to add.
LFP batteries are quite sensitive to cold; even more so than more typical NMC cells which are bad enough, so if you are thinking of leaving this thing on the shelf of your unheated and at times ice cold garage till you need it, that may not work as well as you expect.
Also the expansion battery packs they liberally advertise with this product remain unavailable. Other broken links on their website too.
While a very appealing product to me, I am going to wait a bit yet.
Thanks for sharing that.
If the Pecron expansion pack comes with a 30amp output plug that would be golden.
thank you for this video...i have a 5 cu chest freezer i want to maintain.
Can it be used for 30 amp RV and does it have EMP PROTECTION?
AC200Max can accept up to 1400W of solar if you buy the DC Charging Enhancer they sell, also it can easily accept 2 500W wall bricks, you just have to get a XT90 cable for it and you can charge around 1000W from the wall at the same time.
How efficient is it at low load. Say a cycling refrigerator and a small fan all night. It seems to me the larger the inverter the more it will drain the battery doing near nothing. Is efficiency much different at low load vs high. Does it matter? If so, right sizing the inverter might be important.
your advice please: in an emergency I was planning on getting the jackery 2000, so that i can cook with a burner (boil water - electric kettle 1500 watts) to eat mountain house, ready wise, valley food storage, 4patriots etc. also for phone, led lamps, a fan, maybe tv, and if possible maybe a portable ac. it's simple. do you think this precron e2000 is better than the Jackery 2000 for my needs? is there anything better that you would recommend? lastly, do you recommend other better food solutions that are easy to simply boil? i've got tons of unhealthy canned goods. thank you. great channel!!!!
My AC200MAX just arrived last week, but I am RV living, so the 30 amp TT-30 was mandatory.
Can I connect a 50amp extention cord to a 50amp to 15amp adapter(dog bone) and than connect to Pecron or any solar generator 15amp outlet to run house 15amp outlets.
What A/C charger do you need for the E2000 LFP vs the E3000 as there are not direct a/c plugs. Added cost?
Can you charge the unit continuously from a wall socket when not in use or it will be damaged?
would you recommend this as the power source for an rv?
Just a silly suggestion: Maybe we should consider purchasing spare cords for everything also. If STHF and your charger cord fails that would not be nice if you only had one.
@MF F amen
Nice video….do you think you will be reviewing the Anker 757?
Trying to find out if my Renogy 100 w solar panels are compatible. Haven't seen that listed anywhere, including the Pecron site. Does anyone have knowledge of this? Right now, I have the connectors for my GoalZero Yeti 400. Are those universal or will I need new ones for this device? Thanks.
Glad i found you. Have you reviewed LION energy batteries? They seem to have strong specs and rep and am wondering if i should consider them. They use lithium ohisphate as well.
i dont see expansion batteries available on web site or pricing for them
Please say a few words on the solar panel connectors vs. the ones on Bluetti.
Any code for the 3000 model? Have ac200p already like to add this 3000 model
Great review Kris and thanks for adding the Pecron to the spreadsheet. Question: I had a 30 Amp Generator Power Inlet Box installed with my new circuit breaker panel a few years ago to be able to connect a generator (which I am now able to buy). Does the Pecron have a 4 prong 30 Amp outlet? Of course now I want solar rather than gas or propane since it is practical year-round in Arizona. It would be so nice to just turn off the circuits I don't need and let the ones to the refrigerator and 1other circuit get juice, and not have to run extension cords.
If the Pecron doesn't, does the Bluetti have one? I don't think the comparison spreadsheet mentions these.
Bluetti has the standard three prong rv 30amp plug. Pecron doesnt have anything. Bluetti also has an ac300 unit 3000 watt inverter...and just announces an ac500 unit 5000 watt inverter!
If you buy an additional charger for faster charging do you have to buy an additional six solar panels? You are basing charging time with a with six solar panels and 12 panels right?
Wow, very thorough review! I opted for the Bluetti 200 Max several months ago and have learned a few interesting things. Since i also got the 2 expansion batteries, you can actually hook up 3 AC chargers (main and on each battery module), which gives you 1500 watts of charging. Using the a DO50S DC charging enhancer on each of the battery modules allows you to hook up an additional 500 watts of solar to each battery in addition to the 900 watts going to the 200 Max for 1900 watts of solar. But, you have to spend another $700 bucks to really max they system out. If i had waited though, the Pecron would have probably won me over:)
The ac200max can use the additional 500 watts of solar as well....letting it take 1400 watts plus 500 more from each battery. The dc charging enhancer is only $150.
I bought the AC200Max as well, and adding the additional charging features was... frustratingly complicated. For what they charge for the unit, they should have at least included the T500 AC Adapter & DC7909 To XT90 Cable. Instead, you have to purchase these separately, and the connection setup is not exactly intuitive. Compared to the SuperBase Pro 2000 that I also got, which uses a standard PC power cable, has no brick, and can charge from a wall outlet at 1800w, it's out of touch.
I just bought one based on your earlier review. Like it. Only problem was they didn’t send the second panel immediately. Just an oops as I got is last week.
Thanks!
If your bring in the expandable batteries.. it only makes sense to mention the AC500 and AC300 Bluettis
Wanting to know if I could use this in a semi truck for cooking utensil and charge it if a day off of the 1200 watt inverter on truck just know anything bigger than a 1000 watt air fryer it starts to trip my inverter
Do you have solar generator rhat can cover thr whole house?
Will this keep a refrigerator going?
THKS
Thanks.
We live off grid in Yaak MT we are not rich and need to get the most bang for the buck for a portable solar panel power system which system would you recommend for around $2000. Thanks great channel.
And now (1 NOV) the expansion batteries are available for preorder. $100 discount, so the 3094wh battery is $1499, no tax, no shipping. Ordered mine yesterday!
Excellent review. FYI, It appears your discount code is only good for the unit alone, so (at present) their package with 400w solar panels is a bit less than buying them separately with the discount.
+1 if the channel is able to get another code for the combo and update the description please let us know so we can use that!
Does it have passthrough charging?
Still pricey but an excellent review, great job.
Electrician batteries are the future my friend I'm about to change my two regular batteries in my camper van for lithium the only thing is that kind of expensive. but the prices are going down slowly as more and more people buy into them..