Hi Allan just as bad here in. LUTON, just picked up my New rig version 4 ss9900 and hopefully be putting it on as soon as I get Ariel up, cheers Allan.
I think if i put an antenna on the other side of the building I might hear more of the guys in Nuneaton, bit not sure id get away with it , just nothing heard at all. :-(
Hello,we used 8 channel Icom 446 radios on the farm in conjunction with CB.....furthest i copied was my daughter hilltop to the attic room of where she lived about 28 miles ... around here its garden centres and a few occasional users and funnily enough a school about five miles from me ....i put a call out on ch 8 occasionally but very quiet.....from Weald of Kent.
Lots of activity on Sunday evenings. Worked Stoke on Trent and Blackpool from the coast at Dublin in good conditions. Answered a call on ch8 from the isle of man just this week.
At the moment general radio communications such as PMR & CB isn't busy , but in the future if anything happens with global affairs & the phone & internet goes down the PMR & CB will come back to life .
Hi Al, yes pmr is very little used in Cov, although many have got pmr radio's locally, I have got two pmr radio's for car and walkie talkie but very seldom hear anyone despite putting calls out, enjoyed the vid mate.
There are Facebook groups that organise Sunday night nets. Don't expect much in poor weather even at good locations. Conditions make a huge difference beyond a few miles.
Yeah maybe it was just a passing phase, but it does well up on a hill antenna to antenna, 67 miles ive manged a few years ago and that was just on a UV5R.
@@Al.26TC101 yeah covid times was very busy we did try to keep it going...yep a passing phase.. I did hit Holland and the South Coast from here when the conditions were good but that was a few years ago now.
Informative video Al .. no experience with pmr and wondering if it would be worth picking one up to try out here in sandwell.. keep up the good work and 73s
Hello Allan , thank you for sharing . Those small mag mount twig antennas are not good & should be disposed of . The Sirio CX440 is the best PMR antenna with a guaranteed SWR of 1.1 rest assured , you'll bless the day , you'll somehow need to adapt it for mobile use , it is a small antenna so it shouldn't be difficult . The Anytone radio will cook up on full power or any other power come to that , their not good on PMR 446 as the transistors overdrive on that frequency , a cooling fan should be used at all times & ideally it should be used on low power . I hope that above has been of some help .
Thank you for the info, always happy to hear what others have to say as I'm no expert, but do love the radio as a really fun hobby no matter what freq is used. So cheers.
Hi Allan just a quick one I found a free APP , called a Midland cB TALK APP, and you get a map and you can see were people are. And a radar I think it goes up to 200 miles away. So for free you can’t go wrong. Thanks again for your work and please take care of yourselves and see you soon Alan from Luton 🇬🇧😱👍
Chhers bud think its online only as far as i know and i use zello which is pretty similer , but not something i uase alot , but ill certainly check it out and have a look. :-)
The southern PMR 446 network is still going, 6 years+ now chaired by Mr Ray CT2290 from Ashdown Forest in East Sussex. Channel 14 from 20:00 local. When the tropo is nice and high, the net can be heard for miles up north. But like you said, 446 range in normal circumstances is less than line of sight. As for PMR in Brighton, it's dead as a dodo. Apart from Monday nights when the PMR Network is on, a good few people head out for it including myself on occasion :) all the best Al, 73'
@@Al.26TC101 What a plonker I am... I forgot to give the day lol. Monday nights, every week from 8pm local time... rain or shine, the Chairman is out beaming all around for the network.
@@Al.26TC101 Think we did maybe once or twice, I scan around a bit on there and listen about but nothing much happens. Think you'd have to beam over to me
if your on about Sid as in the sunday DX he has retired from it all now , but a few are still running it , ill check it out when mobile again and see if i can here anything cheers
@@Al.26TC101 yeah i have also a charlie tango callsign :) thats why i know marc the 009 :P but my problem was always when it was running on cb there where mostly on uk fm and at that time i didt had a radio that can go there :)
Yeah its deadly bud, guessing its where I am that doesn't help in a block of flats, I hear some stuff, but its not radio users so to speak, ill keep listening though and I have had a contact of 67 miles when I was up on some high ground once. Cheers Bud
Do keep in mind coax is exponentially more important on UHF PMR-446 compared to HF, LMR400 a a minimum (RG8 or 213 will not be appropriate), otherwise you will be affecting both the receive and transmit significantly.
Any recommendations on the coax to be used, although it won't make it any more lively here in Coventry, but better to have decent coax and try. Would ultra flex 7 be good to use ? Thank you
RG213 is fine, unless you're using 50m plus in length. I use 10m RG213 on 70cm with hardly any loss, compared to expensive coax. 23cm is a different matter.
No that won't make a difference and I did mess around making sure it was set up properly. Just a bad antenna. I'll get something else, think they are cheap enough. Cheers
That thin coax going to that magmount is VERY lossy at 446MHz you need to use very low loss coax on UHF. Also those dual band antennas are not that good on UHF you would do better with a proper monoband resonant antenna. 73 Al
Wheres its busy, it's kids playing music and swearing.. we are using ch 14 (dx) for long distance 40/50 miles north French coast in tropo /prop .... 8 08 net on Sunday evenings Ch 8 ,8 pm should get busier at weekends as people get out on the hills with their new Quansheng,s lol... Use or certainly look on the Hi 8....
@@Al.26TC101 at least Diego's troubles proved you were receiving ok. PMR was a bit of a craze a while back with the various PMR nets going on. I used a legal walkie talkie up on a hill and got decent contacts but to be honest the weather is crap and not to many on there now so don't bother.
@@Al.26TC101 yes its a shame as I get loads of qrm on the old uk fm upper part of CB band , but none on PMR. I was told theres a preppers net in Kent, on a sunday evening , so will have to listen out.
I could maybe reach you on my beam, but not sure , shame really as I've spent a bit on the PMR side of things , I thing is worth a listen into though and I'm always scanning , I hear some odd stuff though from businesses and not sure they know they can be heard. Cheers
@@Al.26TC101 Allan I am going to have a play around making some different antennas for the band as I am all so a ham radio operator and 11meter operator I see whot I can come up with for us both,, speak to you soon mate
Maybe when the idiots get bored they will go away and it will pick up again, here is hoping , just no body on here and its never really took off at all in Coventry ill keep listening though.
Alan, I not used it for few years. When I moved to Leicestershire I remember lots of activity around the local area. I was using a Baofeng UV5R with stock antenna it was working well up to 8 miles. I must say it seemed better when it was just 8 channels. Ch8 was always reserved for calling. Unfortunately 70 cm ham band also very quiet. Not sure what any of the bands will be like in another 5 years.
Yeah its a shame, well I will certainly still be playing on radio for many years even when the solar cycle fades, there is still stuff happening. Cheers.
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I haven’t bothered with PMR for a bit will give it another go on a Sunday when it’s hot, we need ringway and Kirby to hype it on RUclips
Will have to try for a contact again bud, be good to see if I can still make it down to you.
Hi Allan just as bad here in. LUTON, just picked up my New rig version 4 ss9900 and hopefully be putting it on as soon as I get Ariel up, cheers Allan.
Cool 11meters gone a bit quiet and always a few locals to speak to , but very Dead on PMR
Here in the East Riding, farmers tend to use PMR now instead of 11m.
I think if i put an antenna on the other side of the building I might hear more of the guys in Nuneaton, bit not sure id get away with it , just nothing heard at all. :-(
Hello,we used 8 channel Icom 446 radios on the farm in conjunction with CB.....furthest i copied was my daughter hilltop to the attic room of where she lived about 28 miles ... around here its garden centres and a few occasional users and funnily enough a school about five miles from me ....i put a call out on ch 8 occasionally but very quiet.....from Weald of Kent.
Cheers you can get a good distance hill top to hill top best I have done is 67 miles on pmr that was a few years ago now.
Lots of activity on Sunday evenings. Worked Stoke on Trent and Blackpool from the coast at Dublin in good conditions. Answered a call on ch8 from the isle of man just this week.
Cheers , i just dont seem to get good conditions here and im always monitoring, maybe need a bit of luck as well?
PMR never started up here, except at a large boot sale, and it is other languages you hear!
At the moment general radio communications such as PMR & CB isn't busy , but in the future if anything happens with global affairs & the phone & internet goes down the PMR & CB will come back to life .
CB is fairly busy here with the lads on ch33, but PMR not so good at all. Cheers
Hi Al, yes pmr is very little used in Cov, although many have got pmr radio's locally, I have got two pmr radio's for car and walkie talkie but very seldom hear anyone despite putting calls out, enjoyed the vid mate.
Yeah its a shame, and your to my north, so not sure I would hear you, maybe worth a go one day bud cheers.
There are Facebook groups that organise Sunday night nets. Don't expect much in poor weather even at good locations. Conditions make a huge difference beyond a few miles.
Cheers , Coventry is pretty low down and although i have a 7ele beam for 446 i can only get about 30 miles in a few directions though.
Here in Sheffield and Doncaster area used to banging a couple of years ago just getting less and less nowadays. 11m is busy locally tho
Yeah maybe it was just a passing phase, but it does well up on a hill antenna to antenna, 67 miles ive manged a few years ago and that was just on a UV5R.
@@Al.26TC101 yeah covid times was very busy we did try to keep it going...yep a passing phase.. I did hit Holland and the South Coast from here when the conditions were good but that was a few years ago now.
Informative video Al .. no experience with pmr and wondering if it would be worth picking one up to try out here in sandwell.. keep up the good work and 73s
Cheers bud. I would say pick one up if you can get one cheap enough, just to see if anything is about in your area.
I'm in Northampton I use and monitor PMR there's a few on at night ..there's also a group of us on cb
CB here we have loads on CH 33 , but PMR I'm afraid is dead in the water😞
Dave In Duston and Nico still going ???
@@gibkcoc1 yes dave in duston still on air
Similar up here on the Wirral. A few businesses. Motorbike training schools etc but little else.
Think it may of had its day.
Hello Allan , thank you for sharing . Those small mag mount twig antennas are not good & should be disposed of .
The Sirio CX440 is the best PMR antenna with a guaranteed SWR of 1.1 rest assured , you'll bless the day , you'll somehow need to adapt it for mobile use , it is a small antenna so it shouldn't be difficult .
The Anytone radio will cook up on full power or any other power come to that , their not good on PMR 446 as the transistors overdrive on that frequency , a cooling fan should be used at all times & ideally it should be used on low power .
I hope that above has been of some help .
Thank you for the info, always happy to hear what others have to say as I'm no expert, but do love the radio as a really fun hobby no matter what freq is used. So cheers.
I can pick up a repeater on the uv5r in redditch, I think from as far as Luton, 430.962 and some activities local on pmr.
Seems activity is really low on the PMR ive heard that some people have been messing with repeaters for pmr but none again around here.
Hi Allan just a quick one I found a free APP , called a Midland cB TALK APP, and you get a map and you can see were people are. And a radar I think it goes up to 200 miles away. So for free you can’t go wrong. Thanks again for your work and please take care of yourselves and see you soon Alan from Luton 🇬🇧😱👍
Chhers bud think its online only as far as i know and i use zello which is pretty similer , but not something i uase alot , but ill certainly check it out and have a look. :-)
Busy here in Lincolnshire. Channel 8
Col not sure id reach that far even on the beam , but nice to know its busy in some places
The southern PMR 446 network is still going, 6 years+ now chaired by Mr Ray CT2290 from Ashdown Forest in East Sussex. Channel 14 from 20:00 local. When the tropo is nice and high, the net can be heard for miles up north. But like you said, 446 range in normal circumstances is less than line of sight. As for PMR in Brighton, it's dead as a dodo. Apart from Monday nights when the PMR Network is on, a good few people head out for it including myself on occasion :) all the best Al, 73'
Cheers bud what day is the net on and ill try and beam down that way , a big ask maybe , but you never know and worth a try , Thanks for the info bud.
@@Al.26TC101 Every Monday around 20:00 till late. It gets very busy some weeks with over 20 operators on hilltops, home and mobile.
@tobyticehurst ill try the beam where would be the best location to point to?
@@Al.26TC101 The chairman is on the Ashdown Forest (home of Winnie the Pooh)...Point towards Brighton and you wont be far off.
@@Al.26TC101 What a plonker I am... I forgot to give the day lol. Monday nights, every week from 8pm local time... rain or shine, the Chairman is out beaming all around for the network.
Same issue my way Al, I here a gym thats close to me and thats about it, Though I am just using a handheld with its stock antenna
Cant remember if we have tried to make contact on pmr ? seems to be alot of people on there that don't understand that they can be heard.
@@Al.26TC101 Think we did maybe once or twice, I scan around a bit on there and listen about but nothing much happens. Think you'd have to beam over to me
Could be doing with a VNA Al, that’ll tell you exactly where it’s resonated but it likely to be 2/70 only.
yep my bad i thought it would be ok on pmr the beam I use is for 70cm and that's ok with a SWR of 1:7 ,
i think there is a net on pmr 8 on sid his net every week,idk if there still doing it
if your on about Sid as in the sunday DX he has retired from it all now , but a few are still running it , ill check it out when mobile again and see if i can here anything cheers
@@Al.26TC101 yeah i have also a charlie tango callsign :) thats why i know marc the 009 :P but my problem was always when it was running on cb there where mostly on uk fm and at that time i didt had a radio that can go there :)
There is a net on Sunday night in the North West.
Any idea where its based I could point my beam, a big shout I know but worth a try. Cheers
@@Al.26TC101 Greater Manchester ( Mainly Stalybridge & Winter Hill ) Sunday nights on CH6
I have worked the guys on Stalybridge from Dublin. Great signals when the condition allow!
I am actually quite surprised PMR is that quiet in your location Al. I haven’t even bothered trying it here as it is way too rural..Best 73
Yeah its deadly bud, guessing its where I am that doesn't help in a block of flats, I hear some stuff, but its not radio users so to speak, ill keep listening though and I have had a contact of 67 miles when I was up on some high ground once. Cheers Bud
@@Al.26TC101 Maybe it’s worth popping it in the car when you go up your perch just in case.
Do keep in mind coax is exponentially more important on UHF PMR-446 compared to HF, LMR400 a a minimum (RG8 or 213 will not be appropriate), otherwise you will be affecting both the receive and transmit significantly.
Any recommendations on the coax to be used, although it won't make it any more lively here in Coventry, but better to have decent coax and try. Would ultra flex 7 be good to use ? Thank you
RG213 is fine, unless you're using 50m plus in length. I use 10m RG213 on 70cm with hardly any loss, compared to expensive coax. 23cm is a different matter.
@@Al.26TC101 lmr400 at a minimum
also you have the meter on 5 watt this radio do 20/25watt i think lol,not sure if that effect the swr
No that won't make a difference and I did mess around making sure it was set up properly. Just a bad antenna. I'll get something else, think they are cheap enough. Cheers
That thin coax going to that magmount is VERY lossy at 446MHz you need to use very low loss coax on UHF.
Also those dual band antennas are not that good on UHF you would do better with a proper monoband resonant antenna.
73 Al
Cheers, I will try for something else although not sure it's worth it maybe mobile on my perch ill do better. ill always have a listen out anyway.
Wheres its busy, it's kids playing music and swearing.. we are using ch 14 (dx) for long distance 40/50 miles north French coast in tropo /prop .... 8 08 net on Sunday evenings Ch 8 ,8 pm should get busier at weekends as people get out on the hills with their new Quansheng,s lol... Use or certainly look on the Hi 8....
Cheers bud , thought id already replied to your comment, but it seems to have disappeared, tried beaming down south on Monday, but still nothing :-(
Poor Diego. Having a football kicked in his face. Life's a bitch sometimes. ⚽️
LOL 😆 well spotted on the video, maybe I shouldn't, but it gave me a chuckle.
@@Al.26TC101 at least Diego's troubles proved you were receiving ok. PMR was a bit of a craze a while back with the various PMR nets going on. I used a legal walkie talkie up on a hill and got decent contacts but to be honest the weather is crap and not to many on there now so don't bother.
quiet in Essex , there is a net on one night of the week, but I havent heard it yet
Well at least its not just here from what I can see, guessing there is no call for it , but I don't get any QRM on the 446
@@Al.26TC101 yes its a shame as I get loads of qrm on the old uk fm upper part of CB band , but none on PMR. I was told theres a preppers net in Kent, on a sunday evening , so will have to listen out.
Same experience in my opinion. What part of Essex are you in? I occasionally give a call on channel 8 from Thurrock or Langdon hills!
not far from Langdon hills, good spot for dx there, I expect I would hear you from there.
@@chrisg7veo495 I'll see if I can get out on the hills mobile this week. Have a new Quansheng in the car with a mobile whip.
Afternoon Allan it's the same in Daventry mate all I get is school's and the odd factory mate
I could maybe reach you on my beam, but not sure , shame really as I've spent a bit on the PMR side of things , I thing is worth a listen into though and I'm always scanning , I hear some odd stuff though from businesses and not sure they know they can be heard. Cheers
@@Al.26TC101 Allan I am going to have a play around making some different antennas for the band as I am all so a ham radio operator and 11meter operator I see whot I can come up with for us both,, speak to you soon mate
Same here in Pontefract area. Use to be lot on. But idiots playing music killed it....
Maybe when the idiots get bored they will go away and it will pick up again, here is hoping , just no body on here and its never really took off at all in Coventry ill keep listening though.
Alan, I not used it for few years. When I moved to Leicestershire I remember lots of activity around the local area. I was using a Baofeng UV5R with stock antenna it was working well up to 8 miles. I must say it seemed better when it was just 8 channels. Ch8 was always reserved for calling. Unfortunately 70 cm ham band also very quiet. Not sure what any of the bands will be like in another 5 years.
Yeah its a shame, well I will certainly still be playing on radio for many years even when the solar cycle fades, there is still stuff happening. Cheers.