Forging Ancient Viking Axes FROM SCRATCH
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Didn’t know they had manscape in the Iron Age but ok
There isn't a link in the description to the other channel.
Wheres the link to the persons channel
your trowel is the first tool i havent been dissapointed with.... it may not look new and modern but its sturdy functional reasonably well crafted . your skill in smithing is becoming apparent .you should forge your own draw knife... your lack of woodworking skill is also apparent and should be addressed. it is truly painful to watch you work with green timber or dried logs... your choice of wood has been poor for its purpose and there is technique to felling or cutting . that branch could have easily been cut with a knife even a copper one ! using green wood for handles is a poor choice it shrinks as it dries splits and falls off thats why seasoned dry wood is used for handles. hope you look into your woodcraft/working skills as it will benefit not only the rest of the series but you in general . in closing i need to thank you for the videos and say more would be appreciated .
I think you are a bit overdue for your own shave horse or even a Low Roman workbench/vice tool
how many tries do you think it took her to do the manscaped sponsor
She's my HTME crush now
@@r.i.promance7467 you're a terrible person
LOL i think she was about to laugh
@@mczs I deleted their comments :-)
It may have taken me a few takes 💀
lol 6:36 looked like a hostage situation where he was showing all the bricks he kidnapped for a ransom
ngl your blacksmithing techniques are getting better and better.... nice!
I noticed that too!
For reals. I thought that when he made the spade.
Practice makes perfect, after he meet with alec steel he progressed a lot
Noice
Idk that axe is NOT forge welded properly lol he's impatient with his metalworking
This blacksmith looks like his previous experience was at Rivendell forging Aragorn's sword. I would trust his abilities
Yeah, I was thinking Celebrimbor
Ye
I thought he was a she.
@@junit483 the world may never know.
destroyed the 69
A common theme I'm noticing in a lot of the videos in this series is when things get tough doing something entirely from scratch, you use what's available to you to get you a hand and keep yourself sane. Originally, this series was started on the premise of if someone can rebuild society from the ground up if it were to collapse entirely. If you do have to resort to 'cheating' slightly, you could frame it as "Looting nearby resources that would be available after the collapse."
I feel like if this were truly after a societal collapse, it'd be mostly looting and repurposing.
Well like he said before, if he managed to make something once he unlocked it and can use simpler ways to get it? Or am I misunderstanding that "rule"?
@@bushdudeandre he’s really stretching the limit of that rule then.
>makes crudely cut lumber and half-assed crumbly mud bricks
>suddenly unlocks store bought perfectly dimensional lumber and fire bricks
I’m not saying he has to do everything from scratch but what’s the point if you’re going to take short cuts. At least give a good explanation like, “our 23 attempts at smelting iron ore failed again because all the good ore has already been used up by mankind over the last 2-3 millennium and you need a feat of modern engineering to process the crap ore or dig miles deep underground”
Lauren is having the time of her life. You love to see it.
hope she's not depressed
Lauren, wear eye protection when chopping wood! Love, Mom
Me: "uhh i'm tired i wanna take a nap" (it's currently 5PM here)
Yt: "hey Andy is here with a new video"
Me: "guess i'll take a nap later"
17 is 5
@@ccortez392 oh yeah i thought of It in 24h format and then i added the pm like in 12h format, i'll edit it
Your trowel forging was very impressive, it turned out nicely. Have you thought about laying in a supply of wood so that it can dry and you don't have to be working with green wood every time?
I was just thinking about this, for when that axe head slips in the next two weeks, as the wood shrinks
@@riograndedosulball248 "Today, we cover the origins of the phrase 'flying off the handle'."
@@NajwaLaylah Also, the eye (or "socket") on the axe really should be tapered and the end of the handle inside it expanded to fill it with wedges driven into it.
An unwedged parallel socket might get a bit "exciting" for bystanders...
I hope they do an episode on Hippocrates and early medicine.
@@friemo660 exactly
im shure he just cataloged what the women knew about plants and gets the credit for modern medicine
@@mobiousenigma tbh I wouldn't be surprised. I still would like an episode on early medicine tho
Um, I don't think anyone would want that.
"Today we're going to be treating a burn with maggots."
Ironically maggots are really good at eating dead tissue which can cause infections. Not a doctor btw, this is an old treatment that kind of still works in certain cases.
@@bobbox12 all good it wouldnt be a bad idea and finding information on herbalisim today isnt the easiest
You should really make an anvil. Even if it’s tiny you need it
Anything flat for the love of God. Everything is so wonky
Find an efficiency V and mending book and you're all set.
Me in the beginning: It is really time for an anvil.
5 minutes later: I should build a anvil
love it :D
I am Really looking forward to see you using some kind of energy like a waterwheel. Nice work mate, always make my day
And find a mending book.
Imagine this guy time travels back 10 000 years. He's gonna level up so fast.
Nah he's not, because back then you would have to put way more manpower into things, he just buys his metal now, and he treats it as if he has way more to spare. He also cheats by using propane, for most of the forging. It's just that he is using all modern systems that took decades to develop and all used other technologies to even exist.
He does everything a little bit, poorly, and then calls it finished.
If he would have actually made a large quantity of iron he could have claimed to have made it, but he just made a little bit of it.
@@daanlutkewillink3893 I wouldn't know how to make a toothpick. He shows the real concepts, and I do hope he takes shortcuts because it would be very straining and less content without.
that's what teaching others are for.
@@rayrivera1830 yeah but he's not doing a series on concepts but on technology, you can't just make a small batch of something and after that use it in industrial quantities and it's modern equivalent. There is just a major difference between the old way of doing things and the new way. He could at least get the metal from seriously old tools like those you'd find in barns and whatever. Now he's just buying metal stock...
@@daanlutkewillink3893 exactly most of the atempts at making things are shocking. Hes not even made a pole lathe and you can make some pretty slick things with one
The bark peeling off is so satisfying.
Yo, where's the link to their channel? They're cool and I want to support them
ruclips.net/video/lFkHqZFmp2o/видео.html
@@laurenapolis thanks!
isn't there an old document from England where the writers justifies their massacre of Viking settlers with the claim that they were to clean and would thus tempt the local women to "promiscuity" by being too attractive?
Good times, good times.
Don't know about the massacre part, but there was a monk complaining, that the norse were seducing all the ladies by bein well groomed.
Andy: No I swear I didn't cheat. Everything was worked with tools and tech sourced by me.
Bar Iron bought from a Industrial foundry.
Gas forge bought from a store.
Gas bottle Bought from stop and rob.
Natural Gas from ExonMobile super refineries.
Professional Blacksmith with years of specialized knowledge.
It seems like we are rapidly diverging from the "reset" mentality. Like, I'm fine with the use of wrought iron that you didn't make, because wrought iron is just working the iron bloom. But I think that using modern bricks is a fundamental difference, they react very differently. I'm still enjoying it, and I've wondered about a "lone survivor rebuilding the world." story line, but it's just not the same.
Whatever, it's still fun and I'll still enjoy.
I mean, Vikings were raiders, ( that's what viking means) so its possible that a viking could have stolen the iron, or traded for it.
@@celiaccrab6952 Then he needs to make a historically authentic longship.
I think makes a few bricks as proof of concept and then using modern ones is fine but i was wondering about the file, the blower and the modern wood working Tools that he did not build as a proof of concept before
@@PZtv-pb2yn He has always stated that he will make something and then use more modern stuff to speed things up. He has made bellows and a file before. Also all the wood working tools he used were his own created ones, other than the draw knife, which he has also made his own
@@celiaccrab6952 oh yea i was read this stuff long ago, viking bought steel for their sword from middle east
Gosh, it's crazy looking at stuff like the draw knife and just how big of an improvement it is with a sharper edge.
Add the cylindrical spaces in the bricks. Air is an excellent insulator and air gaps might help if you line a portion of your kiln or furnace with a portion of bricks using air insulation pockets like in a middle column. Maybe this may help you keep heat inside helping the overall internal temperature to reach higher. Great video, keep up the good work!
Oh, and try dusting the glob of red clay while in your hand with dirt as well to keep it from sticking like when you dust off the mould. Take a sized piece of wood in the same shape as the brick to press down and compress the brick while forming. The compressed brick is less likely to break or pop under temperature stress as the added volume is more able to distribute heat with entropy and the compression helps binding the clay to hold together. If you have trouble with bricks breaking, while you're forming the bricks in hand, add fiber like string fiber and knead it thoroughly through out the brick. See if that helps.
I think that's a matter of being period accurate. The air gaps were more of an early modern invention iirc.
@@darthplagueis13 Nah, you see it in some kiln designs from furnace and accompanying bellow chamber designs from Ancient China from Chinese blues (Porcelain) production and Ancient Japanese work for when they were developing and perfecting their metal folding techniques in blade production along with ancient Asian use of carbon sprinkling to strengthen metalwork, IIRC.
Awesome to hear from Adri again! Really excited that they've started a channel of their own.
Is the link to the draw knife build missing?
/watch?v=lFkHqZFmp2o
It's in the description now and Lauren's been replying to other comments with the link
One thing when setting any handle just use the weight of the head to set it. It will allow it to sit naturally instead of hitting it in place what won’t be as effective and won’t sit as well
You need to collect the wood early and let it dry for a much better result. The best way would be to collect wood gor the next 1-2 jears
That drawknife looks very professional! Props to Adri
yeah, green wood makes for the best handles!
sarcasm
Lol, Andy is not well known for making good tool handles.
I just hope nobody catches that axe head with their teeth when it goes flying. You can already see it working off throughout the video.
For the love of god, please get an anvil of a good rock for the smithing xD you unlocked the technology
Ok but why do I look like that in the thumbnail x_x
It's all the concentration.
@@TheElfsmith lol gotta be something like that
“What we have today comes from generations of trial and error.”
Mostly error
you should forge a little viking anvil, the stone is nice, but you can´t use an edge or a nose
When using the coal fire you want to build it up really high to get a hot and reducing flame in the middle of it. You don’t want to really stick anything you’re working on downward in it, only straight in
The blacksmith is awesome! Can't wait to watch more of their videos.
Where’s the link in the description?
ruclips.net/video/lFkHqZFmp2o/видео.html
Just a suggestion, what you've made is a war axe with a large but thin blade, if you want to use it for cutting wood it should have a smaller thicker wedge shaped blade. The war axe is intended to focus energy to peirce armor and cut flesh but will get stuck and take damage hitting wood. A proper wood cutting axe has a wedge shaped blade to split the log rather than try and cut it, the wedge also doesn't get stuck as easily and is thicker and more robust.
Not all tool axes are felling and splitting axes. Axes are used for things other than chopping trees down and splitting firewood.
@@TheElfsmith yes and they've been using their axes for felling and splitting
@@roterex9115 Not too much splitting, but felling axes, although heavier and more obtuse in profile than a Dane axe or other dedicated war axe, still aren't strictly "wedged" shapes. Plenty today still have rather thin bits, just better supporting the edge with a not-so-steep bevel. Hatchets and smaller axes as well generally have a narrow bit, *especially* when it comes to Rheinland and Nordic style pack axes.
Watching this is like watching dr stone in a way since their both starting from nothing and building thier ways back up threw every era.
It's way more hilarious when Angry Cops does does a sales pitch for Manscape.
Nice series. Most propane forges can weld. You need to close it up a little to build heat and make sure you're running a little rich so you don't get as much scale buildup.
7:00ish - Scavenging is an important skill of the ancients, it's a time honored tradition and actually fits kinda well with your series.
I want you make an airplane.
Seeaamee
Bassed on the quallity of most of the work his plain would fall out of the sky
Next: How to make an airline. "Be of the first 1000 to buy a ticket for HTME Airlines, and save 50%!"
@Acroselorator falling with style
As someone who made a bunch it is extremely "simple".
I'm just LOVING watching you progress at blacksmithing. When you built the forge properly out of brick I got VERY exited for future projects.
Just a suggestion, if you take longer and slower pulls and pushes on the bellows you can get it hotter. Additionally, you should attempt to make a Viking style anvil, Blackbeard forge on RUclips has a great video about them. They’re small which means you can produce one using a single iron bloom.
Thank you crazy new person for showing why tools aren't toys and why ppe is always important
HTME got the smoothest sponsor transitions in RUclips
Nice work on this ep don't listen to the whiners saying you cheated. Comprehension and understanding has went down recently and people are hyper focused on stipulations rather than respecting the time and effort you all put in to making good content. Lauren is a great co host. Not many people act that genuine on camera I respect that.
The trick to stopping bricks from sticking to the mould is covering the mould in ash, similar to how you would put flour on a surface to stop dough from sticking to it.
Fun fact, Vikings used crushed animal bone to “enchant” their weapons. They were actually making an early version of steel.
Sauce?
Maybe early in Nordic Iron Age terms, but not for Europe. There had been material cultures very proficient in steelworking around a thousand years before the Viking Age. The Celtic culture were prolific steelworkers during the time of the early Roman Empire for instance.
Best steel of the vikings was umphbert steel I believe. For 150 years they had the ability to create crucible steel of near to modern day quality 1000 years before the rest of the world could make anything near as good. If my memory serves me right.
@@kinggilgamesh013 then your memory probably doesn't serve you right. There is no reason to assume the vikings were any better at metal working since they were behind the rest of Europe in technological terms for a lot of time, and for real, there is no way the cities of medieval Germany and France, Italy, Iberia, Byzantium, weren't producing prime quality steel already by the viking age
@@riograndedosulball248 the part in question from my memory was the 1000 years but I was off by a couple centuries maybe. The name is ulfbhert I miss spelled that aswell but the rest is accurate. I watched a documentary on this particular type of steel. I didn't assume anything. There are roughly 150 specimens retrieved from warrior Graves between the late 9th century to the early 11th century. It's believed they originated in austria and after the people knowing their techniques died the recipe died with them until it was unearthed and tested in modern times. The steel is of a comparable quality to the steel we use right now. It was so popular in its time forgeries were even made but the steel was not the same quality.
This is absolutely incredible! I really admire all the stuff you’ve been able to accomplish. You’ve got a lot of patience and determination to do all of these things!
*10 years later:* Alright guys so today we're going to be making late 2021's laser gun-
The show got so much better once Lauren became a cohost, y'all make a great team!
Thank you so much! 🥲❤️
where's the link to Adrian's video, its not in the description?
It’s up now!
Hey Andy you should make a spike/post anvil. It leaves you just enough striking room for the hammer. While being very historically accurate it also helps with forging in almost any place as it can be driven in to any stump or most ground
Before I even watch this video, I wanna say something that may or may not be in the video but, vikings used to burn the bones of their enemies and large animals they killed in the fires they used to make their weapons, thinking it'd grant them spiritual strength in that weapon, but like.. What it actually did is the carbon in the bones combined with the iron they had to create a VERY primitive steel, that was, in fact, better than the crude iron they had to use at the time.
It should be noted that whilst a poor viking might occasionally might have used a wood chopping axe in battle, there is in fact a difference between a tool axe and a battle axe. A tool axe would be relatively wide, heavy and have a wedge shaped blade profile because it is not meant to actually cut into things, but rather to chip away material. When it comes to hard material like wood, you are generally not going to try to cut it (for reference: Cutting in this context means that material merely gets separated and pushed aside) but you want to chop or saw through it, that is to say, you want to remove material that is in your way. The reason for that is that trying to just cut straight into wood will likely result in your blade getting wedged and stuck.
A battle axe on the other hand would have a slim blade profile, much closer to something like a knife or sword, because it is meant to be nimble and light and because it is meant to cut through things (like flesh or clothing).
Using a battle axe as a tool would be possible but quite difficult and time-consuming and it would also be rather abusive to the edge.
Using a tool axe in battle would be possible, but it would be worse. Fighting would tire you out faster and you wouldn't really be able to cut into things at which point you might as well use a hammer as a weapon. A good hit might still be able to break bone, but you'd mostly cause bruises rather than bleeding lacerations.
not all tool axes are felling axes.
they have actually found out that some viking tribes DID have horned headgear - one of them is the Baserkers
Love this series and was wondering what was taking so long but I knew it would be good and guess what it was! This was an awesome episode! Keep them coming.
You know I will say, seeing as your already making a saw from that era, after your rock breaks, you can totally make a roman anvil.
Man, it's always fun to watch this.
Adri has a channel now? SUBSCRIBED IMMEDIATELY
I love her energy
8:29 if you see it, you see it
Umm what did you see
@@AbirWasNotHere someone utterly beatiful
@@MrLins-wv3tg I found it and it was hard to catch even in 0.25x speed
@@AbirWasNotHere but It was worthy
@@MrLins-wv3tg no doubt about it
This series is the best on RUclips I think
I am very glad with your improvement here. The welding temperature you used here is what is necessary for making the iron from the iron ore into workable blooms and ingots. Note that the iron needs to be bright yellow (or maybe even a little sparky) for a good weld to occur. @How To Make Everything I am glad with your improvement and I look forward to seeing an improved iron ingot video
Honestly not surprised you had a bit of diffculty with the forge weld. It can be quite difficult even with modern equipment and flux.
For some reason I was NOT expecting Manscaped ads on this channel, lol.
Now that you are more familiar with iron and steel i woul heavilly suggest you try to make a simple wood plane (i.e a Japanese plane) and some drill bits (like the ones Click spring made for his project where he is recreating the antikythera mechanism with as many era apropriate tools as posible) this would greatly improve your ability to work with wood
I have some advice for the future. If you would need to make some bricks again, it would be a good idea to dissolve in water some wood ash and use this solution as a lubricant for that wooden form. This solution would be soapy and you will able to not add so much water onto clay to get the brick out of the form.
You should make Heron of Alexandra's screw cutting lathe. That would be a good first step towards precision fabrication
Some notes on attaching axe or hammer heads: Don't bash the head on, but put the handle into the eye and drop the tool on the end of its handle onto a hard surface. That's so the inertia of the head does the work for you and you're not denting or otherwise damaging the tool head. You might also want a tapered eye (the big end faces up) in your axe or hammer head and to use wedges to expand the top end of the handle inside the eye, so that the head doesn't unpredictably fly off the handle while in use.
shaving that branch was so satisfying to watch
Are you going to be doing a whole video on the forge? Because that seems like a big project that you just skipped over on this one!
I started blacksmithing about 2 years ago or maybe a little more and it's just nice to see Andy start getting into it too. Even if it is just for this
Nice! If you practice blacksmithing, how about a woodworking chisel and maybe a plane iron? Esp. the chisel. Your wooden project parts could benefit so much from mortise & tenon joints. ^^
You can forge weld in a propane forge pretty easily but you need to have better burners
You did well with the way you forge welded the high carbon bit in. You scarfed it right to avoid cold shuts
I would love to see another try at refining the iron ore, maybe even some experiments with crucible steel. the process is far from simple, but its fascinating.
There are a few other good videos out there about making bloom iron and refining it. There are some Dutch guys, but they use a steel anvil and steel hammers, but I have seen one video using stone (thus making the "first" iron). Can't recall then link though...
Hey just a suggestion but another easy way to make iron is throught gathering iron sand with big magnets and melt down the iron dust and cast it
The butter lord was here
Butter
Blessings to the butter lord
@@laurenapolis for that the butter lord gifts you the right to eat butter
@@guseppythebutterlord9275 (☞ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)☞🧈
Really have to appreciate the capacity to maintain a straight face during the mancaped ad... Kudos!
Tbf pulling of a forge weld with little experience is something to be proud of you might just have more of a skill in blacksmithing that you think!
One of the things you can do to make a coal fire extremely hot is to design your furnace so that the air you pump in gets pre-heated before it gets to the fire. Blowing hot air into coal/charcoal fires can make them so hot that they melt metal.
Long strokes on the bellows gets a hotter flame as more air is introduced also use your whole body weight when using the bellows instead of just your arms to conserve energy
The brick making was much better than what I had to do at a weird church camp in seventh grade
advice on ax throwing, one hand, let it just fly out, idealy place yourself so it makes on full rotation.
Don't see that lasting for years lol Should have found a friend that laid bricks LOL
That's why I don't have an outdoor brick grill LOL Good enough for what your doing and better than I cold have made. I'll have to go check out his channel
Enjoyed the video and I gave it a Thumbs Up
I've seen worse bring laying than he just did on a government building. Lol
You have gotten way way better at blacksmithing
Hey, well done. Still a bit rough but you're really putting effort into the forging and craftsmanship and it shows. As someone who has done that as a semi professional, you are definitely doing well. Don't let the haters get to you.
You guys should try tackling the metal anvil.
I feel like u should give the iron smelting Another try with a larger amount because it is totally possibly and I feel like it would rly be cool to have something made from the iron y smelted. But I love ur channel and think all ur videos are so awesome, interesting and impressive
Nice job! Try to use less flux next time, too much flux can inhibit forge welding. Vigorous brushing helps too
Nice work on the furnace but you really should of built it using a plumbob and you shouldn't of built it against the wall, also that manscaped ad was great i just wish you included more cut takes lol
How about making your own abrasives, i.e. whetstones from small ones to a big grinder? You will need them for improved blacksmithing.
Axe is from arms and armor? I worked there for a year, that’s so cool!
3:13 The picture that comes up when you google concentration :D
this Axe will KEAL, I always wanted to say that.
A theory on why the edges where made of simple steel is also that the vikings used animal bones to hammer them, because they believed that the animals spirit would strengthen the axe. The carbon in the bones was hammered into the iron, creating a primitive form of steel and making the blade stronger.
A sugestion about paper, I’ve seen that you’ve struggled with making paper before, a way around this might be to use bark, before modern paper people also used the inner layers of birch bark to write on. You could take some birch bark from a tree and take just the inner layers to get a thin yet flexible sheet of birch bark. Next you could press the bark under a few rocks to flatten the bark ad to dry it out over about one week. This could be a quite nice form of paper to use that also isn’t too hard to make.
When did we see cement?
That axe is especially helpful to you guys, since your food and your enemies are one in the same.
You should look into early wood lathes.
It would be awesome that you wrote a book with all the knowledge of the channel!
Like "How to Invent Anything" and "The Knowledge".
:D
I love your videos. I would like to point out that it is a common misconception that propane forges do get as hot as coal/charcoal. I own a heat treating company and one of my ovens is propane and can easily hit 2300°. One small propane forge I built would melt steel. I would pull blades and billets from it and liquid would run off the steel. But this requires proper forge construction and good fuel to air ratio controls.
A coal forge will reach around 3,500°F. Propane forges with venturi burners will reach around 2400°F max.
Yes coal will get hotter but with a forced air ribbon burner mine I run you can easily max out my pid controller at 3k. But forge welding is done in the 2000-2200° range.
@@jtcustomknives I didn't say anything about the forge welding temperature, I just said that coal *does* in fact burn hotter than propane. It's easier to reach forge welding heat on large work with a coal forge, partly because of the temperature coal burns at, and partially because the heat physically surrounds all sides of the work in a fuel insulated, fuel rich environment. That means little to no scale formation, more even heating, and ultimately easier forge welding.
I forge weld in my venturi forge all the time, and that hits 2,400 without an issue. It's still easier to get a good weld in a coal forge, if you pay attention to your steel. Andy's ammo can forge *can* forge weld mild (I've done it plenty), which welds hotter than high carbon steels, but is restricted by heat loss through the door openings, the ambient environment of a garage in the Minnesota winter, the heat sink behavior of a sheet steel shell with only 1" of insulation, and the restriction of other tools for keeping the weld surfaces clean.