@@popcornhub1 because Dutch, was, a good man. Yes, he robbed killed and plundered but so did John, Arthur and the others. The only difference is Dutch was held in a higher regard and simply couldn't take losing his girl, his brother and his son. Dutch, in my eyes, had every right to go as AWOL as he did.
Mario Presinal he is. Hell they were family once but marston was turned from a good man to a killer. Sure the people he killed weren’t good but just look at how monsterous he’s become. You can see how this confrontation is hurting him deep down because Dutch was his family. But Dutch never really liked John to begin with.
@@verycutetaco I think Dutch was just a very damaged man. When you progress through RDR2 you can see he had some sort of brain injury after the trolley in saint denis
Imagine everything going through Dutch's mind here. Hosea, Arthur, Annabelle, Colm, Micah, Susan, Molly, Heidi McCourt, all the robberies he's done, all the people he's saved, all the people he's killed, his dreams, and how helpless he was. You want to feel good about finally killing Dutch, but it feels so empty. His final words were prophetic, considering that they went back for John. If you've played the second game you know that the gang *was* good, and Dutch really did want to head out West to live free, but that obviously never happened. Sad times man 😔
Eh, for the most part yes, but Javier and Uncle are very different from their portrayals in RDR2. They did at least give a plot reason for Javier by saying that he went crazy after Dutch's betrayal, but there's never been an in game explanation for how Uncle went from being a lovable oaf to being the bitter, angry person he was in the first game.
I like how short and simple Dutch’s final sentences were. No big speech, just a few short sentences about the world they live in, and then he commits suicide
“When I’m gone, they’ll just find another monster. They have to, because they have to justify their wages.” Dutch was crazy and a killer, but he was right about that part.
@@themoike_prod Blackwater, meeting with Colm and getting Arthur captured, and even Sean's death was Micah's fault. If it was up to him, we'd get the shitty swamp as a camp instead of Clemens Point. It was his idea to leave Abigail behind, which was a poor decision, as if Dutch DID decide on it, he'd learn from Milton what Arthur learned as well. He shot Susan. Also made Arthur shoot up a whole town just to save him. And let's not even mention the fact that he is a rat. He's a good shot, but boy is he bad at planning. And when Dutch started listening to him instead of Arthur, everything went to shit.
@@masterblaster2678 I definitely agree. I hate Micah more than anyone. I can't even bring myself to hate Dutch at all, even though I know all he did, I just can't help but feel sad. Micah was a problem, sure, but he wasn't the only problem. Dutch was the one making a series of terrible choices and trying to deny it, not micah. You see, dutch and walter white are very very similar characters. They both were destroyed by their own ego. You know why micah had the upper hand? It was because dutch trusted him. You know why dutch trusted him more than anyone? It was because micah intentionally over-fed Dutch's ego to gain his trust and use it for his advantage. Dutch didn't see it because he thought he was the one fooling everyone when actually he was the one being fooled by everyone (micah, cornwall, greys and braithwaites, bronte). Micah is the best piece of shit and he was the factor that encouraged Dutch's terrible actions but he was smart to an extent. He was as smart as john and arthur except he was only smart if it's about him having the advantage.
It's symbolic...John points a Colt 1903 at him (way of the future) while he's left clinging to the old Single Action Army as the last of the frontier is pushed off to make way for the innevitable future. God, this game is a masterpiece!
Nathaniel Szymkowicz Nope the gun Dutch is programmed to have is a semi-auto pistol, but for some reason in this play threw he has a colt. By game design this should never happen.
The two things Dutch ever got right; 1: they’ll always find another monster, even if they have to make one 2: they have to, in order to justify their wages, and their ways. Weather it’s right or wrong.
@@huleyn135 yes, but in order to be manipulative, you need to make sense. The caveat here is that Dutch knows what he’s saying is true and wholesome, he’s right about the higher ups, and he knows that no one wants to give in to this oppressive new law. But instead he chooses to use it to manipulate rather then actually help people.
@@TheGameRazorOffical Exactly. Dutch was always a bad man but followed a code so that he manipulates his followers into thinking their fighting for something greater or right even though they were nothing more than outlaws
John really doesn’t resent Dutch all that much in the game. Dutch had gone off the deep end and John just wanted Abigail and Jack back, if there was another way he would’ve taken it
I felt that when Dutch says “Our time has passed, John” I also feel like Dutch right now. So sad and hopeless. A lost cause that’s inching closer to his demise.
And yet it's a repeat of an earlier speech he used to distract the law in RDR2 to escape with Arthur. It's like he's finally forced to realize what he's saying is actually true and his whole life has been spent fighting something he can't ever defeat simply because he's always been anti-authoritarian and combative.
After watching the story of RDR2 first, then seeing this scene, as soon as Dutch said he had a plan, I would've Blasted him right then and there. I was so annoyed 😂😂
What gets me about this is he doesn't scream, Not even a yelp, the whole way down. It just terrifys me that he after everything he planned and escaped he truly gave up in that moment. Not an ounce of fear in his body as he hit the ground.
![GEEK TIMË [OFFICIAL AUDIO]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/ry-6RvkH880/mqdefault.jpg)
Dutch forgot there wasn't a river this time
Pero mira a quien veo
Found ya Cinamer :)
This is the best comment ever
Ahahaha
It was my plan
I love the fact that Rockstar used this one simple line and made it his entire story arch in the second game.
Yea what a great story
I have a plan!!!!
ACW 2973 when im, gone they 'll just find another monster!
ACW 2973 Dutch , Arthur , john RIP, MY WILD BROTHERS........... *cry*
@@popcornhub1 because Dutch, was, a good man. Yes, he robbed killed and plundered but so did John, Arthur and the others. The only difference is Dutch was held in a higher regard and simply couldn't take losing his girl, his brother and his son. Dutch, in my eyes, had every right to go as AWOL as he did.
He just needed more money.
And time
And a plan
And some goddamn faith
And smoke
One last score
“I’ve got a plan. I’m going to Tahiti in the afterlife John...”
“Dutch that’s imposs..”
“HaVe sOmE FaiTh!!”
“tHen wEll nEeD MONEY!”
He is going to be disappointed when he wakes up in hell lol 😂
@@RYANG6916 Guarma in hell and tahiti in heaven
No no it's hAve Some goDame FAith
@@RYANG6916 he wont wake up in hell he will wake up in the planning area.
"I've got a plan, John."
"You've always got a plan, Dutch."
*Sitcom Laugh Track*
Lol
Seinfeld theme plays
“This one’s a good one”
*Laughter intensifies*
@@zachhi89 Dutch falls and dies*
*Even more laughter*
Not gonna lie Dutch has a good point when he said all they’re gonna do is find another monster
And they did my boy, they found one at Beechers hope..... :'''(
@@sidegrabsheriff
Ross should have taken the advice he’d given to jack all those years back.
that's their business
Our time has passed John... He basically says they gonna hunt John too
They still do in 2021...
"We gotta stop meeting like this" At the end of red dead 2 John meets Dutch on a snowy mountain. This game has all the details!
yeah it was all thought out very well by the writers.
JangoBlader think it more so meant how John and Dutch always met with John pointing a gun at Dutch in RDR1
@@XxTheShootingStarxX I think he refers to rdr2
Mario Presinal he is. Hell they were family once but marston was turned from a good man to a killer. Sure the people he killed weren’t good but just look at how monsterous he’s become. You can see how this confrontation is hurting him deep down because Dutch was his family. But Dutch never really liked John to begin with.
Corey Nicholas what, Dutch let John back into the group after he was gonna for a year. Nobody would be let back in that easily.
"our time has passed John"
After 12 years after Arthur said that, Dutch realized that Arthur was right
Well I guess he's not going to Tahiti anymore.
Lord Of Vengeance after what he did to Arthur Tahiti in hell
Lord Of Vengeance Not really he was pretty much a complete lunatic by the end of the story and in RDR1 it got progressively worse
You need some faith, son
@@verycutetaco I think Dutch was just a very damaged man. When you progress through RDR2 you can see he had some sort of brain injury after the trolley in saint denis
Maybe heaven is tahihti?
Just one more big score
Just one more year and then we'll be happy
Just one more ZA WARUDO!
I i m p l o r e y o u
T a H i T i
he insists upon it...
Imagine everything going through Dutch's mind here. Hosea, Arthur, Annabelle, Colm, Micah, Susan, Molly, Heidi McCourt, all the robberies he's done, all the people he's saved, all the people he's killed, his dreams, and how helpless he was. You want to feel good about finally killing Dutch, but it feels so empty. His final words were prophetic, considering that they went back for John. If you've played the second game you know that the gang *was* good, and Dutch really did want to head out West to live free, but that obviously never happened. Sad times man 😔
You know it's not real right?
@@josephcooper171 no shit. Fuckface
@@josephcooper171 Yeah, neither is any other work of fiction. It doesn't stop character analysis.
@@aristobazidis3880 No need to get so angry muffin. I won't make fun of your shooty bang bang game again.
@@josephcooper171 Ok shut up man.
Arthur donate 1M
Dutch: wE nEeD mOnEh
The moment when you realize there's no river flowing under the cliff.
Ok guerrilla
It’s amazing how consistent all the characters feel, even when some have different voice actors than in the first game
Yea it's radical
The core 4 are the same
@@The-Big-Boss Javier is diffrent same with uncle and Abigail
Eh, for the most part yes, but Javier and Uncle are very different from their portrayals in RDR2. They did at least give a plot reason for Javier by saying that he went crazy after Dutch's betrayal, but there's never been an in game explanation for how Uncle went from being a lovable oaf to being the bitter, angry person he was in the first game.
@@davisbowe8668 I think the explanation for Uncle is that John abused him into a sad husk lmao
HAVE SOME GODAMN FAITH
the fact I saw this AFTER playing RDR2 first, its incredible how it flows well, and this was first!
I played RDR1 first, but I hadn't played it in about 5 years, so I barely could remember it.
@@nedkelly8958 I remember everything and how great of a game it was.
@@zahidajmal3128 good for you.
Its cool to see Dutch keeping to the same plan he had 8 years ago, he even remembered his speech, only this time there wasn't water
12 years actually, the epilogue of rdr2 takes place 8 years after the main game and rdr1 takes place 4 years after that
John sadly didnt know He was going to be the next Monster...
-I've got a plan,John
-You've always got a plan,Dutch
-This is a good one
Damn,this hits hard after playing rdr2
Thought about this line rn and idk why but it brought me here
"When I'm gone, they'll just find another monster. They have to, because they have to justify their wages." - Dutch van der Linde
That's their business
@@ThirteenFifty Our time has passed, John...
*cough* national intelligence agencies in a nutshell *cough*
@@skreign Exactly. Putin for example
I like how he paused before saying, "our time has passed, john". it's like he remembered something from his past, an ignored wisdom.
I like how short and simple Dutch’s final sentences were. No big speech, just a few short sentences about the world they live in, and then he commits suicide
“We gotta stop meeting like this”
That refers to “American Venom” in rdr2. Up on the mountain
Actually if it does it's probably The other Way around, because they didn't have rdr2 în mind when they were making rdr1
@@paulghencea9037 Are you sure? A lot of the things in the first game would seem strange to put in if not for the second game
@@torb7768 they started PLANNING rdr2 right after rdr1 was released
@@justamoment2767 you sure about that?
@@torb7768 I'm pretty sure that they had plans for it, but it was definitely in conception state, since there's no mentioning of Arthur in RDR1.
What a guy. Manipulative, charismatic, lived and died by his own means.
He’s a hypocrite and an egomaniac but sure, what a guy
Dutch is a walking contradiction
“My whole life, all I ever did was fight”
“When I’m gone, they’ll just find another monster. They have to, because they have to justify their wages.” Dutch was crazy and a killer, but he was right about that part.
You've always got a plan, Dutch.
This is a good one.
I don't doubt it.
We can't always fight nature, John. We can't fight change.
@@sidegrabsheriff ThEN GIve up, Ductchsowjhf!
The fact that he smirk a little after John says this… it isn’t lost on him. 😂
I guess Dutch finally had a plan that worked for once.
Well sort of alot of his plans DID work, just Micah that was the problem. Though he couldn't see that.
@@c-man162 dutch was the real problem. Micah was only feeding his ego
@@themoike_prod Blackwater, meeting with Colm and getting Arthur captured, and even Sean's death was Micah's fault. If it was up to him, we'd get the shitty swamp as a camp instead of Clemens Point. It was his idea to leave Abigail behind, which was a poor decision, as if Dutch DID decide on it, he'd learn from Milton what Arthur learned as well. He shot Susan. Also made Arthur shoot up a whole town just to save him. And let's not even mention the fact that he is a rat.
He's a good shot, but boy is he bad at planning. And when Dutch started listening to him instead of Arthur, everything went to shit.
@@masterblaster2678 I definitely agree. I hate Micah more than anyone. I can't even bring myself to hate Dutch at all, even though I know all he did, I just can't help but feel sad. Micah was a problem, sure, but he wasn't the only problem. Dutch was the one making a series of terrible choices and trying to deny it, not micah. You see, dutch and walter white are very very similar characters. They both were destroyed by their own ego. You know why micah had the upper hand? It was because dutch trusted him. You know why dutch trusted him more than anyone? It was because micah intentionally over-fed Dutch's ego to gain his trust and use it for his advantage. Dutch didn't see it because he thought he was the one fooling everyone when actually he was the one being fooled by everyone (micah, cornwall, greys and braithwaites, bronte). Micah is the best piece of shit and he was the factor that encouraged Dutch's terrible actions but he was smart to an extent. He was as smart as john and arthur except he was only smart if it's about him having the advantage.
@@masterblaster2678 true his only good plan was the coach you rob with him in chapter 4
Dutch 'plan' der Linde
Dutch was right about one thing. Once he was killed, they just went after the next
How come Dutch has a cattleman revolver and not the semi-auto pistol?
It wasn't part of the plan
Yea lol
It's symbolic...John points a Colt 1903 at him (way of the future) while he's left clinging to the old Single Action Army as the last of the frontier is pushed off to make way for the innevitable future. God, this game is a masterpiece!
Nathaniel Szymkowicz Nope the gun Dutch is programmed to have is a semi-auto pistol, but for some reason in this play threw he has a colt. By game design this should never happen.
In some cases he has a cattleman revolver in this scene, but most of the time he has a semi-auto pistol.
I’ve got one more plan, we can’t fight gravity
**jumps off cliff**
He thought Tahiti was down there.
-Dutch, I implore you to be sensitive.
-No
_Falls to his death_
We can't fight gravity... Wait a sec..... Can I?
Falls off cliff.
Infernecrosis 8 man damn 😂😂😂😂
He had a goddamn PlAn!
Well! he fought gravity and fell off like a feather..
Well he DID fight gravity... he just didn't win.
He just needed more faith
"CHEELLLONNIIAAA!!!"
backward chellonia
The two things Dutch ever got right;
1: they’ll always find another monster, even if they have to make one
2: they have to, in order to justify their wages, and their ways. Weather it’s right or wrong.
he is a manipulative murderer, not a philosopher. you are taking him too seriously
@@huleyn135 he might be, but he's not wrong
3:you cant fight gravity
@@huleyn135 yes, but in order to be manipulative, you need to make sense. The caveat here is that Dutch knows what he’s saying is true and wholesome, he’s right about the higher ups, and he knows that no one wants to give in to this oppressive new law. But instead he chooses to use it to manipulate rather then actually help people.
@@TheGameRazorOffical Exactly. Dutch was always a bad man but followed a code so that he manipulates his followers into thinking their fighting for something greater or right even though they were nothing more than outlaws
When will Dutch learn: robbing the Blackwater bank is a bad idea.
“I’ve got a plan, John.”
“Does it involve Tahiti?”
“…”
“Or mangoes?”
“…”
“Or betraying the man you raised as your son-“
“ALRIGHT, I GET IT!”
"You always got a plan, dutch" makes more sense after playing rdr2
One of the best cutscene of the history of videogames
Dutch seems so broken in his last “i’ve gotta plan”. He knows it’s his last plan.
RDR probably has the best storytelling in any video game. It’s genius and hits you.
Dude, I forgot how sickening the *thud* of Dutch hitting the rocks is. I need to go back and play RDR1.
aw hell yeah man
Dutch's best plan.
:-(.
OUR TIME IS PASSED!
RIP bro
And John dies shortly after finishing the van der linde gang :(
After following this mfk through hell and back with his “plans” I liked how he said this one is a good one and it turned out to be one
Dutch deserves a game
Ha have already had two
Even his last words were "I have a plan"
Such a motivational speech followed by such a goofy fall
that's what makes it amazing. i like to think he thought a river was there but ended up smacking himself on the rocks. too funny
despite everything dutch did, I still felt sorry for his death. he wasn't evil at heart, just stressed out. he also shot micah and saved sadie.
This breaks my heart more after playing RDR2 :( the people who made the 2nd one really did well making him truly seem like a younger version of him.
WE'RE GOING TO TAHITI ARTHUR
I wanna see the gag reel where dutch trips on the edge of the cliff and falls backwards Benjamin Byron Davis talked about it at a panel once
Dutch: OURTIMEHASPASSED-!
No, we just need Time.. Time and Money. Arthur.. We just.. Just have some faith Arthur.. Some GODAMN FAITH.
“When I’m gone, they’ll just find another monster. They have too, because they have to justify their wages.”
The fact that he says “This is a good one”
similar to the one in RDR2 When Arthur and Dutch fell into the river
I got a goddamned plan, John, we just need some more MONEH! Just one more big score, and then we can get a boat.
TAHITI, JOHN
i had a GOD DAMN PLAN!!!!
“I got a plan” “you always have a plan Dutch”
Listen to me when the time comes you have to run and never look back this is over
I just realised he said that to Arthur when they jumped into a river
John really doesn’t resent Dutch all that much in the game. Dutch had gone off the deep end and John just wanted Abigail and Jack back, if there was another way he would’ve taken it
And 62 years later they proved him wrong and went to the moon.
when he said «We can’t fight gravity» i knew that he was gonna jump, and when ross shot his dead body it was obviously to make john look bad.
Even before he died he persist with his plan obsession 😂
One of the saddest gaming moments for me.
Bro thought he was playin minecraft
He took I got a plan to the grave
we cant fight change thats why dutch is always trying to get the cash
Remake.
Dutch: I had, a god damn plannnn!
Jumps off cliff
After playing rdr1 and 2 this scene makes me feel so sad.
John should've said "I guess you haven't come up with a plan for this one Dutch"
I felt that when Dutch says “Our time has passed, John” I also feel like Dutch right now. So sad and hopeless. A lost cause that’s inching closer to his demise.
Everyone's time will past. You're relevant only in the time you're alive. There will always be a year that someone isn't going to see.
I feel like this is the only speech dutch got out of nowhere and didn't have to prepare like I found out in 2 , which makes me sad honestly.
And yet it's a repeat of an earlier speech he used to distract the law in RDR2 to escape with Arthur. It's like he's finally forced to realize what he's saying is actually true and his whole life has been spent fighting something he can't ever defeat simply because he's always been anti-authoritarian and combative.
Dutch: I got a plaaaaannn (Falling off cliff)
Arthur: Move next time.
Hits different after RDR2
I always got a plan.
I don't doubt it
@@sidegrabsheriff you beat me to it
Dutch, you didn't need to demonstrate we can't fight gravity.
My hole life always got a new plan - Dutch 2010 Rdr 1
He just need some Faith. , Literally
You sir, are a prophet
I like how when you restart RDR2 story mode you like Dutch and bill and all the ones that turned like you don’t know what’s gonna happen.
Imagine waiting 12 years just to learn the plan is for dutch to jump off a cliff
I HAD A GODDAMN PLAN!
You always had a plan, Dutch. We just needed a little more g o d d a m n f a i t h
@@CaydenGrimes.
And M u N e Y!
*T a h i t i*
0:12
"I've got a plan, John."
"You've always got a plan, Dutch."
It was a good one
@@sidegrabsheriff I didn't doubt it
@@IcedKuraokami We can't always fight nature, John.
0:48 hit different
It’s always a good one
After watching the story of RDR2 first, then seeing this scene, as soon as Dutch said he had a plan, I would've Blasted him right then and there. I was so annoyed 😂😂
"When I'm gone, they'll just find another monster"
We just needed to side with him
Our time is passed, John
-Dutch Plan Der Linde
Guess his plan actually worked
Poor Dutch
All he wanted was freedom but found greed and forgot that freedom is nothing left to lose.
The last "I got a plan"
THE LAST ONE
What gets me about this is he doesn't scream, Not even a yelp, the whole way down. It just terrifys me that he after everything he planned and escaped he truly gave up in that moment. Not an ounce of fear in his body as he hit the ground.
Because he didn't regret dying
Imagine john didn't shot him because he taught john to read shoot and feed
I can't imagine the rdr 3 we will be playing as micah. Maybe we got to know micah background after this hahahaha
There wont be any rdr 3
*dutch falls*
Dutch:Where’s the river?!