I wish Toyota and Nissan would make an HD. I've had a Titan XD and it was great to have a lot of features, all that power, and still have 1800+lbs of payload, but I'm talking a true HD. It's about time and it'd be nice to see some additional competition in the space.
Agreed, but of the two companies only Toyota would be in the position to do so (and they wouldn't do it anyway). The Titan is the worst selling pickup in the US and Nissan itself doesn't have a great name for many reasons, setting aside their money issues. Toyota only makes the Tundra in and for the US market as far as I'm aware and the invest for them to move into HD would be steep. A big part of the HD market is businesses and fleets, neither of which are Toyota's demographic in the US, on top of the fact that the Tundras are a bit overpriced when compared to the big 3. Toyota doesn't have nearly the build options and customization available for their vehicles either- this is less of an impact for consumer vehicles but more so when moving into HD. They make a few trim levels that have a couple minor options and that's it- you get what you get. Toyota doesn't have any diesels in the US and neither their diesel or gas V8s are anywhere close to the realm of capability that the US manufacturers have. The HD market is very competitive and saturated, so from an investment perspective it doesn't really make sense for Toyota to push into that anyway- they are smarter with their money than pretty much all other manufacturers. Toyota doesn't really take risks, which sucks sometimes, but benefits both them and their customers most of the time.
@@sly9263 totally agree. I think this late in the game it is a real challenge. It’s a darn shame the Titan doesn’t sell better as I really enjoyed mine. That being said it is worth noting that generally speaking I feel like the HD trucks are where the domestic manufacturers have built some serious no nonsense vehicles. While not for everyone, I have a feeling that the failure rates on their HD products are probably the lowest of all their lines.
Shacking up the HD market would be awesome especially if they can keep pricing down compared to the big3. Problem is Toyota couldn’t produce the truck alone and would need to develop the truck with another manufacture to make it happen but hopefully someone will shake it up, it needs it badly 👍🏾👍🏾
If only they’d try HDs but they’ve said multiple times they have no interest in that market. Which is very odd because I’ve seen a lot of “fleet” vehicles that are tacomas and other models.
@@TonkaFire2019 I mean, you say say "a lot" subjectively, but I have visibility to 60% of government fleets in the US, as well as major oil companies and transits. There are next to no Tacomas being used- it wouldn't come up on a list of top 50
Thank you again for another awesome video. I'm in the process of being a new generation Tundra (SR5 4 WD payload 1720 lbs)and travel trailer. 26 Ft. 6000 lbs. (Loaded) with a hitch weight of 650. Towing 3-4 times a year. I was going to get an HD, but honestly, I despise all 3 makers. Sooo... this video made me more comfortable sticking with a brand I know, trust and Made in America.
I agree Justin, If you tow a lot get a HD truck for the safety of your family and everyone around you, and do the homework on your trucks payload based on what your hauling. I see a lot of weekend campers being towed with a 1/2 ton truck obviously overloaded, and I'm pretty sure they didn't do their homework to assure a safe experience on the road,. I love that you keep pounding this home JB, so keep doing what you're doing, it could save people a lot of grief and keep people safe on the road.
I know that 1/2 tons check a lot of boxes for comfort and size but this video opened my eyes about the axle ratings these trucks have. You literally are exceeding axles before GVWR and I know some people are going to say to use a WDH but that’s not gonna solve 300#’s of weight because the air suspension lifted the truck back up. Ultimately these trucks have a primary purpose of passenger and load carrying and this video really should sway people to look for smaller trailers if they plan on purchasing this truck. Thanks James 👍🏾👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork Planning on taking my wife and dogs out using a tundra sr5 trd off road with a 3150 lbs camper unloaded. so dog weight + people weight = 500 lbs, and will probably load the camper with about 400 lbs of stuff, and the truck with 150 lbs of stuff. From what I saw on the video, I imagine I should be more then fine, but just wanted to hear your opinion.
Not everyone wants a fucking 3/4 ton the 95% of the time they don’t tow. And the added maintenance that comes with a diesel if equipped. If you stick to 55 and balance your load properly, you can tow near or at max rating with ease.
@@aarons7886 bruh I towed a 6500lb wet camper with my built 2019 Tacoma from SoCal to Oregon and got snowed on through one of the passes I drove through. Although I had heavier springs and better AT tires, my truck did flawless and I even averaged 9-12 mpg. You’ll be fine, despite the shit people like to talk Tundras are overbuilt for a half-ton. Stick to 55 and air your tires accordingly, you’ll be fine. Most of these jackoffs preaching 3/4 tons are the same assholes blowing by you at 80mph with their trailers hooked up on the interstate.
A lot of people who have these trucks do not know that you have 2 tow haul modes for towing? One for under 5,000 pounds an one for over. If you didn’t know that then that may be your issues. I tow 30 foot tow hauler with all our camping equipment ,golf cart, side by side ,ATV’s an 4 or 5 people over all kind of mountains an does just fine. It’s no HD but I have towed this set up with HD Dodge with gas an it’s about the same. About the capacity warning they all have that same writing in all there owner’s manual. If I would tow a trailer 30 or 40 times a year an it 10,000 plus weight You would be better off HD non gas!! Of course the bigger the truck means it’s not daily driver an it would be a 2nd truck at your home, I bought in 2008 tundra an if I hadn’t lost in a flood I would not have bought a new one. I’ve got several friends who on that time period have had 3 or 4 truck purchases, you get much much bang for your buck with the tundra. I’am still out on this twin turbo , but I have a friend who has one of the first ford twin turbo’s an it a service truck tow big trailer 7 or 8 thousand pounds got 175 thousands miles on it an in 10 years zero break downs, so they must be good engine setup. Love your vids keep it up!!
@@JorgeEspinoza-de3gj my old 08 Thundra cab an half was rated for 10,500. I have the TRD sport quad cab. I’d say it around 10,500, but the TrD off road is more than likely 11,000 to 11,500 tow rating. Now that’s me guessing.
You hit on several reasons why I always preach towing with an HD truck. To begin with, the E rated tires are at 3750lbs each and are 10 ply that will help with sway and are way safer. With an HD truck the brakes are larger, the cooling system for the engine and trans are larger, the rear diff is larger...basically everything is larger and made for safe reliable towing. Another reason is capacity. The payload on our 2500 is 3472. We don't have to worry about a thing with our camper at all and what we put in the bed or how many people are in the cab. No worries at all. What I don't like is people that own 1/2 ton pickups looking at towing capacity only. Sure their truck is rated for 8 to 9k lbs. But that's all they look at. Payload and GCWR along with rear axle ratings never enter their mind. I'm glad the manufacturers are putting in weight sensors. It might wake up a lot of people to how unsafe they are when towing their camper or whatever else. And for those that think they can't afford an HD, I call BS on that. We bought a 2022 Chevy 2500 Custom model that had 9 great options on it for 53,500. So they can be had for an affordable price.
Bullshit you bought your truck for 53k. Maybe that was the sale price but if you financed, it definitely wasn’t the out the door price. And if you make the argument that you paid cash, you’re a bozo if you think everyone can do that. People have trouble saving 5k nowadays.
My Dmax 3.0 just got 15.4 mpgs towing my Grand Design 27’ RV. Weighs around 8k. I towed from northern AZ to Sand Diego. Towed every hill at 65-70mph with ease. You should do a tow test with the new LZ0!
@@JB_WhoWork yeah the diesel torque is so much better than any gasser I own! It tows my RV better than my 2019 6.4 Hemi Ram 2500! Prefer the Silverado 3.0!!!
Good point on the half tons exceeding GAWR on the rear when using all/most of the payload for hitch weight to max tow a trailer. This one was really bad, but I think my f150 was right on the edge with my travel trailer.. I was able to load it legally but remember thinking the rear axle rating should hav been a bit higher.
Yup, 300#’s over RGAWR with no equipment in the truck and car inside trailer is primarily being handled by trailer axles so there’s that too. I believe Fords max tow increases rear axle rating but weight distribution is key with these lighter trucks 👍🏾
Weight distribution hitch would have made it so you didn’t exceed the rear axle. I moved 600lbs of the rear and to the front just by adjusting the WDH better. Definitely will balance out the truck better.
I need help .. this my first time looking into getting a truck for towing ESPECIALLY HORSE TRAILERS.. I love the trunda truck but watching your videos I see that not a good idea…so what would be the best truck and brand you would recommend
That's why I picked up a 21 Silverado 1500 Duramax. I can only do 9k trailer weight but it does 1765 payload. With our 22 foot travel trailer and my entire family in the truck, we are still under payload by quite a lot... I work for toyota and can get a discount. But the tundra still cant tow worth a damn. That low payload kills me on toyotas
At least with Chevy they do give the option (or at least they did) to get max tow which upgraded rear axle rating. 22’ trailer is fine for a 1/2 ton and I’m sure it pulls great with you’re setup 👍🏾👍🏾
I like your vids and am a subscriber but the repeated comment of “toyota doesnt want you to tow with this truck” is ignorant. Agree they went too conservative on their ratings. I tow 6500 lbs regularly and well within all ratings.
JB... Thanks for another great video. I was wondering if you were you using a WDH while towing? Maybe that is why Toyota lowered the rear GAWR? Never the less, I agree the rear GAWR needs to be higher. I drive a Titan XD and it shows both front/rear at 4900 GAWR, which is good. However, as noted in other comments, I wish it was higher in the 3/4 ton truck market.
Good video. I’m actually shocked you didn’t exceed the GVWR when you exceeded the rear axle rating by that much. If that doesn’t confirm your statement that Toyota doesn’t want you towing primarily with the Tundra I don’t know what else would. Also just any half ton truck towing a trailer like that is not a good idea. It’s just too big. Even with a weight distribution hitch I don’t think you would have gotten back under the rear axle rating. But people will do it and it’s probably ok if you’re going on short trips and not interstate speeds. And not towing it that often.
Dude I was appalled by the CAT scale sticker lol! I was expecting to be over by at least 100#’s on GVWR and under the axle by about the same but 300#’s over rear axles!?!?!? Toyota clearly doesn’t want you to tow with this truck especially when they have a higher GVWR available for the heavier trims/Powertrain. I agree with you that this is too big of a trailer but the air suspension and longer bed really did enhance stability! thanks 👍🏾👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork yes. The long bed would be the only way to go if you have to go with a 1500. They are hard to find but worth it. The short bed is about useless for hauling anything big.
I dont think any of the trucks in this category are built for the primary purpose of towing. It's essentially a family truck. Good for loading up the boat or dirtbikes and gear for a weekend getaway.
It's not just Toyota, I've looked at Chevy, Ram, and Ford and none of them can tow an 8000 lb trailer with any amount of gear in the truck and stay within the specified cargo capacity. Nissan Titan XD is about the only 1/2 ton type truck that can barely qualify.
Some of the competitors you mentioned have payloads over 1500#’s but this video shines a lot of light on axle ratings being to under rated. If a truck has payload over 1500#’s, it should have at least a 4200# axle at the minimum. Titan XD is a incredible truck that should get more recognition but Nissan is not great with advertising the truck 👍🏾
When you’re talking about not using it for towing you are talking about full time towing, correct? I’m in the process of getting a travel trailer for some weekend camping around 55 k to 65k dry weight shorter than a 25 ft. I can’t imagine driving anything other than a tundra. Am I talking stupid? Thanks bro for the info.
If the truck had the tow mirrors, it’s only going to make the experience better but I wouldn’t buy them after because I felt like the standard ones did fine 👍🏾
Real world example: 2018 F-150 5.0L SuperCrew w/ 2026 payload capacity, 9100 pounds towing limit. 2022 F-250 7.3L Godzilla (gas) SuperCrew w/ 3000 payload, 14,700 pound towing limit. Towing 7500lb 32 ft travel trailer. NIGHT & DAY difference on stability and comfort in towing. 100% buy a HD truck if your pulling anything over 25ft or 6000 lbs in my opinion.
Dont trust the payload sticker I prove it wrong when I went to a CAT scale with just a full tank (22.5) my real payload is 1690 and tow 11,600 and dealer told me the same
JB good review, but I disagree with you on your assessment of the tundra not being built to tow. The tundra engineers have stated that when it comes to towing for Toyota, the Tundra was purpose built for towing by Toyota. I think the owners manual is just covering Toyotas ass on paper in case a consumer wants to sue them.
Did you have it in tow haul super plus extra absorbtion for heavy flow mode? Wtf? What happened to getting in your truck and towing without having to program it to do its job? And that shit will reset everytime you shut the engine off.
@@JB_WhoWork it definitely worked with the 9500 pound trailer. I was pulling when it was in Plus mode not so much in the regular mode but I agree you should be able to manually choose your selection but I’m assuming it’s like he said probably a safety thing for them.
That was the old tundra with the V-8 not the new tundra. The new tundra is nowhere near as good as the old truck. I know I have two of the old tundras and have tried the new tundra it is nowhere near as good as the old ones.
I wish Toyota and Nissan would make an HD. I've had a Titan XD and it was great to have a lot of features, all that power, and still have 1800+lbs of payload, but I'm talking a true HD. It's about time and it'd be nice to see some additional competition in the space.
Agreed, but of the two companies only Toyota would be in the position to do so (and they wouldn't do it anyway). The Titan is the worst selling pickup in the US and Nissan itself doesn't have a great name for many reasons, setting aside their money issues. Toyota only makes the Tundra in and for the US market as far as I'm aware and the invest for them to move into HD would be steep. A big part of the HD market is businesses and fleets, neither of which are Toyota's demographic in the US, on top of the fact that the Tundras are a bit overpriced when compared to the big 3. Toyota doesn't have nearly the build options and customization available for their vehicles either- this is less of an impact for consumer vehicles but more so when moving into HD. They make a few trim levels that have a couple minor options and that's it- you get what you get. Toyota doesn't have any diesels in the US and neither their diesel or gas V8s are anywhere close to the realm of capability that the US manufacturers have. The HD market is very competitive and saturated, so from an investment perspective it doesn't really make sense for Toyota to push into that anyway- they are smarter with their money than pretty much all other manufacturers. Toyota doesn't really take risks, which sucks sometimes, but benefits both them and their customers most of the time.
@@sly9263 totally agree. I think this late in the game it is a real challenge. It’s a darn shame the Titan doesn’t sell better as I really enjoyed mine. That being said it is worth noting that generally speaking I feel like the HD trucks are where the domestic manufacturers have built some serious no nonsense vehicles. While not for everyone, I have a feeling that the failure rates on their HD products are probably the lowest of all their lines.
Shacking up the HD market would be awesome especially if they can keep pricing down compared to the big3. Problem is Toyota couldn’t produce the truck alone and would need to develop the truck with another manufacture to make it happen but hopefully someone will shake it up, it needs it badly 👍🏾👍🏾
If only they’d try HDs but they’ve said multiple times they have no interest in that market. Which is very odd because I’ve seen a lot of “fleet” vehicles that are tacomas and other models.
@@TonkaFire2019 I mean, you say say "a lot" subjectively, but I have visibility to 60% of government fleets in the US, as well as major oil companies and transits. There are next to no Tacomas being used- it wouldn't come up on a list of top 50
Thank you again for another awesome video. I'm in the process of being a new generation Tundra (SR5 4 WD payload 1720 lbs)and travel trailer. 26 Ft. 6000 lbs. (Loaded) with a hitch weight of 650. Towing 3-4 times a year. I was going to get an HD, but honestly, I despise all 3 makers. Sooo... this video made me more comfortable sticking with a brand I know, trust and Made in America.
I agree Justin, If you tow a lot get a HD truck for the safety of your family and everyone around you, and do the homework on your trucks payload based on what your hauling. I see a lot of weekend campers being towed with a 1/2 ton truck obviously overloaded, and I'm pretty sure they didn't do their homework to assure a safe experience on the road,. I love that you keep pounding this home JB, so keep doing what you're doing, it could save people a lot of grief and keep people safe on the road.
I know that 1/2 tons check a lot of boxes for comfort and size but this video opened my eyes about the axle ratings these trucks have. You literally are exceeding axles before GVWR and I know some people are going to say to use a WDH but that’s not gonna solve 300#’s of weight because the air suspension lifted the truck back up. Ultimately these trucks have a primary purpose of passenger and load carrying and this video really should sway people to look for smaller trailers if they plan on purchasing this truck. Thanks James 👍🏾👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork Planning on taking my wife and dogs out using a tundra sr5 trd off road with a 3150 lbs camper unloaded. so dog weight + people weight = 500 lbs, and will probably load the camper with about 400 lbs of stuff, and the truck with 150 lbs of stuff. From what I saw on the video, I imagine I should be more then fine, but just wanted to hear your opinion.
Not everyone wants a fucking 3/4 ton the 95% of the time they don’t tow. And the added maintenance that comes with a diesel if equipped. If you stick to 55 and balance your load properly, you can tow near or at max rating with ease.
@@aarons7886 bruh I towed a 6500lb wet camper with my built 2019 Tacoma from SoCal to Oregon and got snowed on through one of the passes I drove through. Although I had heavier springs and better AT tires, my truck did flawless and I even averaged 9-12 mpg. You’ll be fine, despite the shit people like to talk Tundras are overbuilt for a half-ton. Stick to 55 and air your tires accordingly, you’ll be fine. Most of these jackoffs preaching 3/4 tons are the same assholes blowing by you at 80mph with their trailers hooked up on the interstate.
A lot of people who have these trucks do not know that you have 2 tow haul modes for towing? One for under 5,000 pounds an one for over. If you didn’t know that then that may be your issues. I tow 30 foot tow hauler with all our camping equipment ,golf cart, side by side ,ATV’s an 4 or 5 people over all kind of mountains an does just fine. It’s no HD but I have towed this set up with HD Dodge with gas an it’s about the same. About the capacity warning they all have that same writing in all there owner’s manual. If I would tow a trailer 30 or 40 times a year an it 10,000 plus weight You would be better off HD non gas!! Of course the bigger the truck means it’s not daily driver an it would be a 2nd truck at your home, I bought in 2008 tundra an if I hadn’t lost in a flood I would not have bought a new one. I’ve got several friends who on that time period have had 3 or 4 truck purchases, you get much much bang for your buck with the tundra. I’am still out on this twin turbo , but I have a friend who has one of the first ford twin turbo’s an it a service truck tow big trailer 7 or 8 thousand pounds got 175 thousands miles on it an in 10 years zero break downs, so they must be good engine setup. Love your vids keep it up!!
How much is ur weight when loaded with sxs? I just got one dry weight is 7700 lb im thinking ima b aroumd 10k 10,500 when done
@@JorgeEspinoza-de3gj my old 08 Thundra cab an half was rated for 10,500. I have the TRD sport quad cab. I’d say it around 10,500, but the TrD off road is more than likely 11,000 to 11,500 tow rating. Now that’s me guessing.
towed with 1/2 tons for years. know truck , trailer brakes and should no issues. just dont tow more than max
You hit on several reasons why I always preach towing with an HD truck. To begin with, the E rated tires are at 3750lbs each and are 10 ply that will help with sway and are way safer. With an HD truck the brakes are larger, the cooling system for the engine and trans are larger, the rear diff is larger...basically everything is larger and made for safe reliable towing. Another reason is capacity. The payload on our 2500 is 3472. We don't have to worry about a thing with our camper at all and what we put in the bed or how many people are in the cab. No worries at all. What I don't like is people that own 1/2 ton pickups looking at towing capacity only. Sure their truck is rated for 8 to 9k lbs. But that's all they look at. Payload and GCWR along with rear axle ratings never enter their mind. I'm glad the manufacturers are putting in weight sensors. It might wake up a lot of people to how unsafe they are when towing their camper or whatever else. And for those that think they can't afford an HD, I call BS on that. We bought a 2022 Chevy 2500 Custom model that had 9 great options on it for 53,500. So they can be had for an affordable price.
Bullshit you bought your truck for 53k. Maybe that was the sale price but if you financed, it definitely wasn’t the out the door price. And if you make the argument that you paid cash, you’re a bozo if you think everyone can do that. People have trouble saving 5k nowadays.
Toyota is saying what all half ton manufacturers should say. Because no half ton is designed just for towing that’s what HD trucks are for.
You’re a great resource, love the channel.
i tow a 8.5 tt. the difference between a 1/2 ton vs a3/4 ton is night and day. i agree.
Yup, that extra weight you get with an HD is hard to overlook!
My Dmax 3.0 just got 15.4 mpgs towing my Grand Design 27’ RV. Weighs around 8k. I towed from northern AZ to Sand Diego. Towed every hill at 65-70mph with ease. You should do a tow test with the new LZ0!
I actually found a 2020 GMC 1500 with the diesel so I may put it together for next month! 😃 mileage btw!
@@JB_WhoWork yeah the diesel torque is so much better than any gasser I own! It tows my RV better than my 2019 6.4 Hemi Ram 2500! Prefer the Silverado 3.0!!!
Tundra has tow haul+ i believe you have to press and hold the tow haul button until it shows towhaul+. It might do better downhills
Good point on the half tons exceeding GAWR on the rear when using all/most of the payload for hitch weight to max tow a trailer. This one was really bad, but I think my f150 was right on the edge with my travel trailer.. I was able to load it legally but remember thinking the rear axle rating should hav been a bit higher.
Yup, 300#’s over RGAWR with no equipment in the truck and car inside trailer is primarily being handled by trailer axles so there’s that too. I believe Fords max tow increases rear axle rating but weight distribution is key with these lighter trucks 👍🏾
Thanks for the info! You made it very easy to understand. I really appreciate your content.
Weight distribution hitch would have made it so you didn’t exceed the rear axle. I moved 600lbs of the rear and to the front just by adjusting the WDH better. Definitely will balance out the truck better.
Yeah these people want to make the truck look bad it’s the Point lol
And, how was the car positioned in the trailer, could have just been too much front weight.
That is true, but the WDH would have also put him over the GVWR due to the extra weight of the WDH
@@jefflazo2365 you think a WDH weighs 105 lbs over a regular hitch?
@@ArkansaDave1 depending on what hitch was used for the testing and what WDH gets used, it could, and if not, it would be close
Also don’t forget if you try and balance the trailer to put weight in the back it becomes dangerous.
I need help .. this my first time looking into getting a truck for towing ESPECIALLY HORSE TRAILERS.. I love the trunda truck but watching your videos I see that not a good idea…so what would be the best truck and brand you would recommend
There's a tow haul + mode
This would be similar for any half ton truck NO?
Very good informative video, I do agree if you are going to be towing a travel trailer you should have an HD
Thanks bro, anything over 5K should be considered HD territory 👍🏾
That's why I picked up a 21 Silverado 1500 Duramax. I can only do 9k trailer weight but it does 1765 payload. With our 22 foot travel trailer and my entire family in the truck, we are still under payload by quite a lot... I work for toyota and can get a discount. But the tundra still cant tow worth a damn. That low payload kills me on toyotas
At least with Chevy they do give the option (or at least they did) to get max tow which upgraded rear axle rating. 22’ trailer is fine for a 1/2 ton and I’m sure it pulls great with you’re setup 👍🏾👍🏾
I like your vids and am a subscriber but the repeated comment of “toyota doesnt want you to tow with this truck” is ignorant. Agree they went too conservative on their ratings. I tow 6500 lbs regularly and well within all ratings.
JB... Thanks for another great video. I was wondering if you were you using a WDH while towing? Maybe that is why Toyota lowered the rear GAWR? Never the less, I agree the rear GAWR needs to be higher. I drive a Titan XD and it shows both front/rear at 4900 GAWR, which is good. However, as noted in other comments, I wish it was higher in the 3/4 ton truck market.
Just upgrade the brakes. My 2010 Tacoma has a payload of 2,000 lbs and a towing weight of 9,000 lbs. Just do the right upgrades
Do u have airbags
Good video. I’m actually shocked you didn’t exceed the GVWR when you exceeded the rear axle rating by that much. If that doesn’t confirm your statement that Toyota doesn’t want you towing primarily with the Tundra I don’t know what else would.
Also just any half ton truck towing a trailer like that is not a good idea. It’s just too big. Even with a weight distribution hitch I don’t think you would have gotten back under the rear axle rating. But people will do it and it’s probably ok if you’re going on short trips and not interstate speeds. And not towing it that often.
Dude I was appalled by the CAT scale sticker lol! I was expecting to be over by at least 100#’s on GVWR and under the axle by about the same but 300#’s over rear axles!?!?!? Toyota clearly doesn’t want you to tow with this truck especially when they have a higher GVWR available for the heavier trims/Powertrain.
I agree with you that this is too big of a trailer but the air suspension and longer bed really did enhance stability! thanks 👍🏾👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork yes. The long bed would be the only way to go if you have to go with a 1500. They are hard to find but worth it. The short bed is about useless for hauling anything big.
Where are you located? Looks beautiful with the mountains everywhere. Great area for testing trucks.
He's in Utah, Lehi/ Saratoga Springs area. I live near by and drive through these roads every day.
I dont think any of the trucks in this category are built for the primary purpose of towing. It's essentially a family truck. Good for loading up the boat or dirtbikes and gear for a weekend getaway.
Can you the same with a 5.3L trail boss long bed? Pls?
It's not just Toyota, I've looked at Chevy, Ram, and Ford and none of them can tow an 8000 lb trailer with any amount of gear in the truck and stay within the specified cargo capacity. Nissan Titan XD is about the only 1/2 ton type truck that can barely qualify.
Some of the competitors you mentioned have payloads over 1500#’s but this video shines a lot of light on axle ratings being to under rated. If a truck has payload over 1500#’s, it should have at least a 4200# axle at the minimum.
Titan XD is a incredible truck that should get more recognition but Nissan is not great with advertising the truck 👍🏾
When you’re talking about not using it for towing you are talking about full time towing, correct? I’m in the process of getting a travel trailer for some weekend camping around 55 k to 65k dry weight shorter than a 25 ft. I can’t imagine driving anything other than a tundra. Am I talking stupid? Thanks bro for the info.
I wonder if tow plus mode would have down shifted more aggressively
It would. I have the new Tundra and tow a 297RSTS reflection, truck worked like advertised.
JB isn't there tow haul mode 1 and mode 2? Where you in tow haul 2?
Now that you’ve towed a bit with that truck, would you buy the tow mirrors or are the regular ones good enough for a 8.5ft wide trailer?
If the truck had the tow mirrors, it’s only going to make the experience better but I wouldn’t buy them after because I felt like the standard ones did fine 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork Thanks for taking the time to make the video and reply!
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Real world example: 2018 F-150 5.0L SuperCrew w/ 2026 payload capacity, 9100 pounds towing limit.
2022 F-250 7.3L Godzilla (gas) SuperCrew w/ 3000 payload, 14,700 pound towing limit.
Towing 7500lb 32 ft travel trailer.
NIGHT & DAY difference on stability and comfort in towing. 100% buy a HD truck if your pulling anything over 25ft or 6000 lbs in my opinion.
But did you put it in double plus ultra tow mode😂
🤣🤣🤣 that definitely would have helped the RGAWR 👍🏾👍🏾💪🏾🇺🇸
Dont trust the payload sticker I prove it wrong when I went to a CAT scale with just a full tank (22.5) my real payload is 1690 and tow 11,600 and dealer told me the same
yup seeing that smog dont miss utah... Lol
JB good review, but I disagree with you on your assessment of the tundra not being built to tow. The tundra engineers have stated that when it comes to towing for Toyota, the Tundra was purpose built for towing by Toyota. I think the owners manual is just covering Toyotas ass on paper in case a consumer wants to sue them.
Isn’t there a “Tow +” mode? Or is that for the hybrid only?
I didn’t see that it was when I pushed it but maybe for hybrid
It Does have a tow plus mode on all the tundra and it downs shifts amazing
Did you have it in tow haul super plus extra absorbtion for heavy flow mode? Wtf? What happened to getting in your truck and towing without having to program it to do its job? And that shit will reset everytime you shut the engine off.
Did you have it in tow plus mode? Regular toe mode is for 5000 pounds and under tow plus is for over 5000 and it will down shift for you.
Next time I tow with a Tundra, I will be sure to try it out but if I tried to do it manually, it should have still worked
@@JB_WhoWork it definitely worked with the 9500 pound trailer. I was pulling when it was in Plus mode not so much in the regular mode but I agree you should be able to manually choose your selection but I’m assuming it’s like he said probably a safety thing for them.
Pull the Space Shuttle, donchaknow?
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That was the old tundra with the V-8 not the new tundra. The new tundra is nowhere near as good as the old truck. I know I have two of the old tundras and have tried the new tundra it is nowhere near as good as the old ones.
, the old Gen2 5.7 was overbuilt and was actually made for towing, this new Gen3 Tundra is a passenger vehicle grocery getter
All the #s and ratings confuse me to be honest. I really don't understand it all.
lol..my 72 F 100 with a 302 gets better mileage....
new tundra isnt really a truck