Guys, I’ve had a long and painful conversation with Maarten about cutting him off every 3 seconds. Sadly my salary will now be cut in half and Maarten got a promotion. We are still friends at the moment but I do have to live in his basement bound to a chain for the coming month only being allowed to eat his poopoo. I’m legally obliged to not only say sorry to Maarten, but also say sorry to you! These are hard times but we will pull through. Luckily we are selling new cuty small strops that can act as earplugs for Mikkie’s voice!! Dbkshop.com! 🤝
Felix might be the most genuinely wholesome guy who could in a pinch take top 5 in a Swiss forest battle royale. I’m starting to believe JoeX might be his alter ego; or Felix is JoeX’s.
I gotta say that you guys are just fun to watch. I served 5 Years as a german soldier in the netherlands and it was always a blast to be around with my amazing friendly und funny dutch comrades. you two are no exception to that. And you are right: on my tour of duty in Afghanistan i had a Leatherman on me..no Survival-Military-Combat Stuff..just a Leatherman ;) Keep the good work going and have a great time beating knives! Greetings from germany.
I appreciate the crazy tests that you put knives through. Knowing how well a knife holds up to such extremes gives me confidence that the knife would be a great addition to my collection and would easily hold up to my routine use. After seeing your Mora Robust video I knew I had to have one. So at the time I pryed the 14 USD from my grubby hands and ordered one.
I tested my cheapo bowie by cutting through a log of relatively intact dead hardwood, just to make sure it wasn’t going to break in normal usage. (Mossy Oak Bowie) went through the wood, no problem, ONLY PAID $10 as it was on clearance!
This just goes to show you can teach an old dog new tricks!!! Thank you Boyz!!! The two of you are some of the best knife salesmen around as I have bought several dozen based on your videos and not ever disappointed.
Sometimes you gotta use what you HAVE and its channels like this one that show us all what you can accomplish with a particular knife, not what you should do, what you CAN do. And for that, I thank you! We all owe you respect for doing the work that we may well benefit from in an emergency one day.
The problem is that it's a personal choice to only have a knife on you, and I say the choice to only have a knife on you is an extremely foolish one. Can you name a single scenario where one can end up in a wilderness survival situation with a knife but somehow not be able to also have a hatchet and folding saw on you ? There's not too many ways a person can accidentally end up stuck in the wilderness, much less with just a knife unless they chose to have nothing but a knife with them.
@@TylerSnyder305 Nobody I know goes for a short hike loaded down with an axe. Tourists get lost all the time when exploring new places. Plenty of places and trails also frown on bringing axes, saws, machetes etc... As they don't want you chopping on stuff. And normies are easily scared by people they see out carrying large edged tools that they see as weapons. Being unable to imagine people go outside without an axe always with them, ...is strange. Most don't bother if they have no reason to expect to need an axe. Especially when they know their knife can do the job.
@@LastBastian well I have my Vaughan sub zero 8oz hatchet for use when I don't expect to need it. It even fits in my coat pocket, or can be carried on my belt without drawing much attention. If your decent sized fixed blade isn't going to scare people there's the right hatchet out there that wouldn't scare those people either.
You have to consider hunters. I carry just what I sensibly need for survival due to the expectation of hauling animals out. Hunters are the original minimalists. Even now I sometimes have to move my equipment a distance ahead and then drag the animal(s) there. Just to give you all a laugh, I learned this the hard way as a kid by rabbit hunting with a fully loaded backpack. 😂
@@chriskourliourod1651 you also gotta consider the options that are out there and remember that 1.25lb while most common is not minimum head weight available in hatchets. There are small hunters / trappers/ bag / pack axes with heads between 8-16oz that are quite efficient little tools and aren't a heavy bulky burden to carry. It's personal preference and opinion I know, but those in the bashing on knives camp like to write Axes or hatchets off as too bulky / heavy to carry without exploring the options that aren't. All I'm saying I here is there's an axe or hatchet for every situation/use and you can't act like needing to bash on a knife isn't by choice when there are suitable alternatives out there. Do things your way, but he honest that it's a choice not a necessity. I've had 4 of the little 8oz Vaughan super sportsman hatchets ( I currently have 3 ) among other smalls in the 1lb head range, the Vaughans fit in my pocket my tackle box or carry easily on my belt. They weigh hardly nothing, are great efficient little tools, and no matter what I'd be doing in the outdoors I can have one on me along with a modestly sized belt knife that favors cutting performance ( ie not a sharpened pry bar ).
"The right tool for the right job" is a workshop rule, where I can store 50 specific tools for specific tasks. An outdoor or EDC knife is a multi purpose tool. It will never be ideal for a task, but can do multiple tasks with at least 80% quality so that I don't have to carry around multiple tools. Batoning, for example, is the the "little brother" of chopping or splitting wood with an axe, so the initial idea behind it is NOT to use the right tool. I totally agree with you.
I know this comment is a bit old, but spot on. “Right tool for the job” is good when you don’t have to carry it all, and it’s at your house in the shed/workshop. The major anti-baton guys that comment against it on every video get old. We get it, an axe is better! It also weighs 3x as much as a midsized knife.
When I was in a particular unit, our tasks were primarily forced entry and arrest of dangerous criminals. Sometimes against barricaded strongholds. We had many types of tools for that, manual tools like sledgehammers, axes, bars etc…plus specialised explosives to achieve fast entry and defeat of barricades/structures. As part of personal kit, every operator had a fixed blade. Not primarily for combat, but more for its use as an entry tool. A knife is a Basic Tool…it has attributes that can NOT be replicated by any other tool. I can expand and give specifics if you wish. The point is that it is necessary and in moments of need it is essential and irreplaceable by any other tool. Fast cutting ability, strength, reliability, ease of sharpening, edge retention, size, and economic reality all are factors for selecting an issue fixed blade for the task. I had my own, by choice, but the issue knife was the Glock with hard scabbard. It was ok, but not my choice. I didn’t know a lot about knives, but over the years I used a Kershaw flat grind, then a Cold Steel San Mai Tanto, and finally a Randall number 1, seven inch blade. Ka Bar for my bush kit. Everyone has their favourites, everyone has their own experiences. No knife is perfect, but you do need a knife for specific tasks. A moderate quality knife is better than none. I love your channel because you test them in ways that make sense to me, and I can’t test so many knives as you do. Your channel has value, and I love what you do.
Well, as you surely know, the Glock Feldmesser M78 is more of a bayonet than a fighting knife (like the Ka-Bar type). It can also be afixed to the Stg77 as one. I think it's only really useful for bushcraft when ground flat....otherwise it's a crowbar. May I ask you about your opinions on the Extrema Ratio knives? Have you ever handeld one of these during your duty?
look up the specs for a Von Tempsky bowie by Svörd. Do you think it borders on inefficiency? I find it hard to understand why a knife needs to weigh 1kg.
Please review more folders. We know that your test are not their intended use but we like to see what they can handle before they fail. I’m sure there are a lot of your other fans that agree!
Spot on. Remember you'll never know if you have the right blade for the right job unless you test it first to see what it can do. Can't rely on the manufacturer's claims!! DBK help us all by doing the testing for us.
You guys are doing great. I don't watch your channel to learn how to bushcraft. I watch to see you test the knives. How long will their edge last? How much will it take before it breaks? You guys find that limit which means we won't end up in a survival situation with a knife that can't handle the abuse that *may* be necessary. We all know that the chances of needing a knife to withstand this torture are almost 0%. I also watch because you guys have a great chemistry and don't take yourselves too seriously. Thank you, and keep it up. - Walter (Some dude in the middle of the USA)
After watching you guys for a long time I bought my first bushcraft knife. Mora Garberg Black, sure there are better knives but I think this is the best starter knife it has not lete down. Thanks guys.
If it’s your only knife with difficult bush craft chores in mind it’s a good choice If it’s not your only knife and you have lots of fixed blades, you should have one of those also 👍🏻
Plus despite having financial arrangements they remain as unbiased as possible. Not focused on selling knives or supporting a particular brand. Have a great day.
Bought the Benchmade Puuko after discovering the knife on your channel. Perfectly fits the need for low weight hiking, batoning for firewood, food prep etc. Don't wanna carry an axe for a week's hiking. Thanks guys - love your Thursday show
Glad you've enjoyed your puuko, I've been thinking of both that and the longer Leuko. Love this channel for introducing me to different brands. The Terava knives, Hulterfors, the Peleton Ranger, Joker Knives.... I've tried a lot of knives I never heard of before, and have been introduced to a whole different style of knife.
@@J.sh_CDN For me weight is important, so I would still pick the smaller one. It can still do all you need to build a fire. Sounds like you already have other knives that are just as good though🙂
Folding saw and fulltang knife is a much better combo in terms of safety when you spend time outdoors with kids. Bahco laplander + hultafors or mora robust is cheap and effective, my choice for adolescents, never regret it.
I like your view on not promoting your own knife......thats called being ethicsl and having integrity....something a lot of other channels dont have, they just pander to their sponsors
Mine is a necessity, it really is. Honestly. 😁. I asked my wife to bury me with at least one good knife and a flashlight but she insists she is going to sell them all😮.
Over the years I’ve gotten more minimalistic with my camp setup and would much rather take one knife that can do a variety of tasks instead of bringing a bunch of specialized tools.
On that Ka-Bar USMC, I'm a US Army vet. I never carried the Ka-Bar. It is, and always has been, a garbage knife. Most of us carried multi-tools like the Leatherman or relatively inexpensive folders like the CRKT M-16. The ones who went fixed blade carried ones from Buck or SOG. These days I go higher end and carry Spyderco, Benchmade, Giant Mouse, MKM, etc but the primary blades I carried in the Army were Leatherman and Gerber multi-tools. Granted, I was air defense artillery and if I was in hand-to-hand something had gone very wrong. I needed the pry tools and screwdrivers far more often than I needed a cutting edge.
CRKT M-16? Hahaha! I’ll take that Kanaar thank you very much. Otherwise if carrying a fixed blade an SRK OR OKC. Maybe even Gerber Ultimate Survival knife. I’ve seen on take a lot more than a Kanaar and not break.
I have slowly built quite a knife collection that includes custom knifes. My goal was to have the ideal tool for the job. And also to make one that is ideal for most jobs. But despite what I dislike about the mora 511, It's somehow the best I can find whenever I need one unscheduled. That lead me to get so used to it, that I end up using it even when I am at home where my better ones are. So maybe there is no best knife, just the one that haunts you most until it lives in your mind.
Right tool for the right job is fine if you're carrying around your toolbox reminds me of another saying.. Jack of all trades but a master of none... is oftentimes better than a master of one Appreciate you guys👍
I'm a "right tool for the right job" type but I also think of it more in terms of "know the strengths and weaknesses of your tools". It's ok to want a small belt knife for camping or "bushcrafting" and it's also ok to want a big knife for that... you just need to be aware of the strengths and drawbacks of those and choose which you prefer. One is likely going to suffer a bit in the strength department and the other will suffer a bit in the fine-tasks department. Both CAN do both jobs for the most part, just in different ways and finding different workarounds. I think that is why it is good to practice bushcraft and outdoor skills with different tools so you can have different options when you need them. That is also why it is great to have channels like DBK to test and maybe find the strengths and weaknesses and limits of different knives.
Excellent discussion. Good points on batoning, I had not thought of the safety advantage until recently. Maybe you mentioned it on an earlier video? Good to see you guys more serious once in a while... 🙂
Thank God for you guys having the guts for doing the testing. If it wasn't for guys like you we wouldn't even know the capabilities of most of our knives. This is something we may carry every day or may buy as an envestment or to pass on down to family for generations, and to not even know the capabilities of the knives you choose... that just seems assonine.
As a UK resident I carry mostly non locking sub 3 inch bladed folders though I still have some great lock knives that I used to edc but now cannot because it is no longer legal to edc them. Crazy laws which will not stop kids cutting each other in gang fights with kitchen knives. We must protect the freedoms we have as law abiding knife lovers. I always enjoy your videos and reviews . Great informative entertainment albeit on kit that I will probably not ever own or use. Keep up the great work DBK!
You made me look at all my knives. F1, sticks in your pocket, sturdy, incredibly sharp. In love: DBK, the Barkies and even the White River Ursus 45. But if I had to pick _one_ - F1.
Love the F1. It was my first “good knife”. Now I have probably 30-40 knives, but the F1 still has a special place and is quite perfect as an all-around camp, bushcraft, survival knife.
I'm with you guys about "survival" knives. You have to be able to trust that it will do anything because anything can happen in a survival situation. And we all know you don't baton with a folder but like you said you're trying to find the limits of a knife and if it happens to hold up to it then you know you have a top quality knife. I love your show and thank you.
Absolutely love your channel because it's almost 100% fixed blades (with a splash of awesome humour & pseudo manlove). So many channels cover folders but fixed blades don't get enough love. I hike & camp regularly & out bush it's all about fixed blades. We should remember that quotes & sayings are very generalised & don't bear close scrutiny. Picking the right blade for the job is important; but you don't know it's the right blade until you put it to the test to find out what it can do!! Guys - don't change & keep up the fixed blade love. Sharp blades all.
This was so good on so many levels. But I agree we just love knives and using different knives just to see how they perform is a real joy but there is still something more to it that has no real explanation. That's when I think of the famous Bob Loveless quote: "When a man picks up a knife, there's an old memory from the collective unconscious that surfaces. A knife is an atavistic experience. It was [one of] man's first tool and weapon. Man was chipping flint into cutting edges before he invented the wheel. No matter how sophisticated we become, a knife takes us back to the cave."
Ahh Martin, I carry the sam bugout in aluminum. Completely agree about it's slimness. I always have to double check my pocket that it's there before leaving home. Love that knife.
The Bugout is like a modern Opinel, with a slim slim blade and being super light Weight, but with the modern benefits of a pocket clip, one hand open and close, and a much better steel. It's like the modern Slipjoint folder too, same slim slim blade for cutting but with much better features
Agree with everything you said. And I only everyday knife fight for survival, not to kill. With a machete, stiletto, or whatever else I happen to EDC with that day.
Not using out of necessity? Absolutely right!! Most of my knife use (to baton wood, strike a Ferro, food prep, etc) is within sight of my house. And I almost always have an axe within reach AND a lighter in my pocket. I use a knife as a tool for these activities because it is FUN!! Keep the fun coming, guys
Don’t let the trolls tell you you’re doing anything wrong, this channel is awesome, you guys show us what 99% of us want to see. My fixed blade collection has grown because you showed me knives I never even knew about.
The Cold Steel Finnwolf folder is a far better knife for the price than the Benchmades imo. Scandi grind, very solid lock and NO play side to side in the blade. Worth a look for any outdoor uses. Never gonna replace a fixed blade or be a one knife survival tool but excellent quality and value for the price.
100%. I am an avid hiker/camper and own 2 of these. They are my default folder when I go out bush. The knife works hard and the triad lock gives excellent blade security. AUS8 takes a sharp edge and is very easy to maintain in the field. On top of that are low cost so if you lose it there are no tears (try losing a Benchmade and having to replace). Very easy to recommend. Have a great day.
@@realbroggoWhile I agree with everything else you said, if you're really that scared of losing your pocket knife you can wallet chain it to your pants. :)
Telling me you own a cold steel is like saying you didn’t graduate middle school. And you definitely didn’t graduate high school. Good luck little buddie.
Great video guys! It's so fun to try and find the perfect knife, but I agree with the sentiment that whatever knife you have on you is what will have to work. I carry a Leatherman in my EDC for that reason! I feel very inspired by the people on Alone and of course Les Stroud. But I love my woods knives anytime I'm outside I like to carry my precious fixed blades.
I once got lost in the Mountains of the Home country of my parents in the balkans. I was lost for 3 days with very little food in a rough terrain. I had my Condor Knife which served me with everything i could imagine. Firewood, shelter really anything. No one would ever Classify that Condor bushlore as a survival Knife but it served me well. Would i want a different knife i had to chose ? Yes of course, but me having no problems with my condor showed that survival us mostly bushcraft. (I made that whole thing up btw)
Why pay attention to those people that comment on subjects they don’t understand, they are clearly ignorant to the purpose of your channel? I started watching you channel because i wanted to buy one knife that would hold up to field use without me having to do all these reviews myself…i settled on a bark river and its because of DBK.
On the other end of the Spectrum from the right tool for the right job guys, you have the cold steel guys who get upset when an expensive or thin knife can’t take apart a car door.
I love this video! I can relate to those questions so much since i always have friends questioning my choice in which knife I carry, why I have so many knives and why I love them so much. I basically tell them the exact same things you did in the video. Love you guys!
Every time I think that one of these guys is funnier than the other one, they prove me wrong. The best part about it is that they are just being themselves. It doesn’t feel like an act.
Love the video as always! Great work. I don’t always agree with everything. Definitely not the prices of most things. But I have still always appreciated the videos/hard work that goes into them. God bless you both and your families!
Me and TC @SMKW coined the term “ stunt knife “ as the knife that comes out and does the real work instead of the pretty ones that could do it too . I’m guilty of it . “ no no , don’t use that one , use this one “ 😂
Thank you for validating my esteem of Busse knives in INFI steel. If I lose all of my other knives, I would want my Busse knife to be my last remaining knife. But in reality, I hope to also have several other knives of various sizes and shapes. Like a filet knife, a skinner knife, a bayonet for mountain lion or wild boar defense, a multi tool knife, a small, lightweight knife that is begging to be part of my smallest survival kit, and a dedicated Bushcraft knife that is fully intended to be disrespected just like it's owner. And that short list could be expanded. That's all for extreme long-term survival concerns. For backpacking you also have to consider the "Go Light" mantra that narrows your choices considerably. So many knives, so many choices!!!
It is a useful to see how tough these folders are. I suspect in a survival situation an unbroken knife would be more useful than a potentially split log
I really hope you try the new Real Steel Pathfinder, they are calling it a folding Bushcraft knife, it has a zero scandi grind, 14c steel and a 3.75” blade
I mainly have folders cause I love to carry them and fidget, I have a few zombie apocalypse fix blades and a few bush craft blades cause I go bush. Love knives all of them
EDC a Bushcraft/Survival knife, problems solved! Haha, i have a Benchmade Anonimus in my pocket right now. P.S. All your points make sense. Great Video!
You’re good, keep doing you. It was actually advanced knife bro using a bugout to spit wood that made me ok with spending that much money. Because yeah, sometimes all you have is your folder
I carry a 4-5 inch fixed blade for edc, but I also carry an edc folder for lite duty tasks. A larger fixed blade rides in my pack for extra hard use when I go out into the forest. I don’t want to abuse light duty knives, but at the same time, I don’t want to peel apples with an eight inch blade.
Mora bushcraft survival knife for me. All day. Everyday. Been using it for last couple years. Works well enough for many tasks and only weighs a few ounces. One of the most comfortable grips too by far.
I agree totally with both of your ethics and think it's great that you guys put blades through the wringers. My ex wife used to tell me that I should have been a product tester, because I can break anything, sometimes with no effort at all. It took me 20 years to finally break her, she divorced me, but that's her doing, I told her I was never growing up! ..... And she was the smart one😂😂😂😂
I’ll just note regarding your analogy of a car crashing into a wall. One of the greatest commercials ever was BMV, demonstrating a Volvo crashing into a wall. The statement was some cars are designed to handle a crash.Then they showed theBMV last second swerving & missing the wall. And then the immortal words.Our cars are designed to avoid crashing.😀
Thank you for the extra long video 😊. For the price of most Benchmades I can get a Survive fixed blade. Right now they have 4 inch blade edc 4 sabre grind or ffg 4 for $239 to mail out within 2 weeks. I have waited for over a year for some but they also have some ghat will mail out fairly quickly. I do edc folders (no limit to size in my state) but feel better with a fixed blade.
I'm not dogging you guys I love your content. The KABAR is what it was designed for a long time ago, I have a few versions but I know the limits of the design from my own experiences trying to use it for things beyond its design abilities. It will always be an iconic symbol but limitted on its capabilities.
I have an original Robeson Suredge mk2 that I bent the tang on from throwing it at trees at age 13. I have a Kabar and a few other ontario knife versions. But there all about the same "limited" by the tang and steel.
There's a huge difference between purposefully going into the woods and oh crap I'm in a survival situation with what I happen to be carrying. These tests are completely useful and valid for getting reliable data that if the crap hits the fan you can push your knife into service and have confidence in it withstanding that use and abuse.
Good video guys. Combat utility blades are indeed just for utility. My issue M2 bayonet was one of the strongest blades I owned and got used for a multitude of every day tasks. Also good for defending oneself from a car tyre (peace time bayonet training). Cheers 🇳🇱 🇳🇿
My Grandfather was a Swiss cavallry soldier. He died before my time, but i remenber his Bayonett, It wasnt as much a thrusting weapon, but like a thick machete with a saw ridge. Obviously to clear brush on those paths, no car would ever pass, but they and their pack horses had to travel on. Could still stick it on the carbine, if he had to though.
@@Gunni1972 thanks for sharing that. The old bayonets are incredibly well made. I got gifted a cut down WW1 Lee Enfield bayonet I have in the garage. Interesting about the design you mentioned. A lot of thought went into that
Military knife with light weight. Leatherman skeletool CX. One hand opening, decent steel, pocket clip, and is a multi tool. That was my go to field knife
I'd rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it. I'm one of those people who hike with 40+ lbs and have an axe, saw, fixed blade, folder, multi tool, and usually my Mora robust is thrown in the pack too, just cause its awesome!
It’s good to have fun and do tests. As a soldier and police officer, the knives I carried were important and over the years changed. They could see hard use, and early on I broke a lot of tips. Now I buy better blades for my use, AND try to use my blades better.
On topic of gear taken into woods or kept in trunk, I find a small knife and a good machete covers about every need without being over heavy. Small knife does accuracy and machete taking thinner branches or breaking approx arm thick logs via baton. Naturally if you like axes (which i do) can definitely be part of regular gear but even with axes there is design choices that affect what it does well so compromises and "misuse" will be done
I worked for a few decades as a field biologist and we were regularly in very remote places in all seasons. There was always a chance that a helicopter wouldn't be able to come out and pick us up or our transportation would otherwise fail us so we could be stuck for quite a while under difficult conditions. I always carried a "bushcraft" knife because it was an extremely useful tool. However, I also had a solid "basher" with me as well because you want a reliable backup... always. Also, a hand saw is crucial and quite a bit lighter than an axe (and you have the basher knife as a back up in case it breaks). I agree with you that most people buy knives because they like to have knives, not because they are ever likely to really need to depend on one for their life. Nothing wrong with having a lot of tools for similar jobs, as long as you have one with you when you need it.
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Guys, I’ve had a long and painful conversation with Maarten about cutting him off every 3 seconds. Sadly my salary will now be cut in half and Maarten got a promotion. We are still friends at the moment but I do have to live in his basement bound to a chain for the coming month only being allowed to eat his poopoo. I’m legally obliged to not only say sorry to Maarten, but also say sorry to you!
These are hard times but we will pull through. Luckily we are selling new cuty small strops that can act as earplugs for Mikkie’s voice!! Dbkshop.com! 🤝
Love his work
Knowledge is not a heavy load to carry
lol, salary. The face and workhorse of the channel should be a partner. He may have an accident. Like falling on a knife two times
Mikkie gets excited about stuff like a puppy he can't help it! :P
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Mostly happens backwards, fyi...
You guys needed the right tool for the right job?
Luckily it was your friendship the entire time.
Love you guys
Haha thank you so much man. That's beautiful ❤️
If you need a new saying how about One in the hand is worth two in the bush! You can take however you like.
I love them more
Awwwwwwww❤
I agree. My knife collection has nothing to do with "the right tool for the right job". I love knives. I will always be looking for the next one.
The more knives you have, the more likely you will have the right one for the right job. Thats what I keep telling myself.
Felix Immler. He is the number one bushcrafter with folders!
He must be protected at all cost
Hands down, yeahh!
This.
They need to get him on as a guest.
Felix might be the most genuinely wholesome guy who could in a pinch take top 5 in a Swiss forest battle royale. I’m starting to believe JoeX might be his alter ego; or Felix is JoeX’s.
I gotta say that you guys are just fun to watch. I served 5 Years as a german soldier in the netherlands and it was always a blast to be around with my amazing friendly und funny dutch comrades. you two are no exception to that. And you are right: on my tour of duty in Afghanistan i had a Leatherman on me..no Survival-Military-Combat Stuff..just a Leatherman ;)
Keep the good work going and have a great time beating knives! Greetings from germany.
Thank you so much mein freund!
You have made a valid point: It’s nice to have a tool that can be beaten. 😁
Seeing any knife in bushcraft scenario is entertaining. Also it shows that skill can make almost any knife work
Really appreciate how DBK appreciates both durability and performance. Pretty intellectually consistent as well when arguing for certain knives
Thank you so much ❤
I work for big axe. Everyone should go hiking in Norway with not one, but multiple axes.
I appreciate the crazy tests that you put knives through. Knowing how well a knife holds up to such extremes gives me confidence that the knife would be a great addition to my collection and would easily hold up to my routine use.
After seeing your Mora Robust video I knew I had to have one. So at the time I pryed the 14 USD from my grubby hands and ordered one.
I tested my cheapo bowie by cutting through a log of relatively intact dead hardwood, just to make sure it wasn’t going to break in normal usage. (Mossy Oak Bowie) went through the wood, no problem, ONLY PAID $10 as it was on clearance!
JoeX makes DBK’s tests look reasonable in comparison. I appreciate DBK’s tests because they aren’t destructive for the sake of being destructive.
People dont understand "you test shit this way so we dont have to"...... good job fellas
This just goes to show you can teach an old dog new tricks!!! Thank you Boyz!!! The two of you are some of the best knife salesmen around as I have bought several dozen based on your videos and not ever disappointed.
Thank you so much for your kind words!
Sometimes you gotta use what you HAVE and its channels like this one that show us all what you can accomplish with a particular knife, not what you should do, what you CAN do.
And for that, I thank you! We all owe you respect for doing the work that we may well benefit from in an emergency one day.
The problem is that it's a personal choice to only have a knife on you, and I say the choice to only have a knife on you is an extremely foolish one.
Can you name a single scenario where one can end up in a wilderness survival situation with a knife but somehow not be able to also have a hatchet and folding saw on you ?
There's not too many ways a person can accidentally end up stuck in the wilderness, much less with just a knife unless they chose to have nothing but a knife with them.
@@TylerSnyder305 Nobody I know goes for a short hike loaded down with an axe.
Tourists get lost all the time when exploring new places. Plenty of places and trails also frown on bringing axes, saws, machetes etc... As they don't want you chopping on stuff. And normies are easily scared by people they see out carrying large edged tools that they see as weapons.
Being unable to imagine people go outside without an axe always with them, ...is strange. Most don't bother if they have no reason to expect to need an axe. Especially when they know their knife can do the job.
@@LastBastian well I have my Vaughan sub zero 8oz hatchet for use when I don't expect to need it.
It even fits in my coat pocket, or can be carried on my belt without drawing much attention.
If your decent sized fixed blade isn't going to scare people there's the right hatchet out there that wouldn't scare those people either.
You have to consider hunters. I carry just what I sensibly need for survival due to the expectation of hauling animals out. Hunters are the original minimalists. Even now I sometimes have to move my equipment a distance ahead and then drag the animal(s) there. Just to give you all a laugh, I learned this the hard way as a kid by rabbit hunting with a fully loaded backpack. 😂
@@chriskourliourod1651 you also gotta consider the options that are out there and remember that 1.25lb while most common is not minimum head weight available in hatchets.
There are small hunters / trappers/ bag / pack axes with heads between 8-16oz that are quite efficient little tools and aren't a heavy bulky burden to carry.
It's personal preference and opinion I know, but those in the bashing on knives camp like to write Axes or hatchets off as too bulky / heavy to carry without exploring the options that aren't.
All I'm saying I here is there's an axe or hatchet for every situation/use and you can't act like needing to bash on a knife isn't by choice when there are suitable alternatives out there.
Do things your way, but he honest that it's a choice not a necessity.
I've had 4 of the little 8oz Vaughan super sportsman hatchets ( I currently have 3 ) among other smalls in the 1lb head range, the Vaughans fit in my pocket my tackle box or carry easily on my belt.
They weigh hardly nothing, are great efficient little tools, and no matter what I'd be doing in the outdoors I can have one on me along with a modestly sized belt knife that favors cutting performance ( ie not a sharpened pry bar ).
"The right tool for the right job" is a workshop rule, where I can store 50 specific tools for specific tasks. An outdoor or EDC knife is a multi purpose tool. It will never be ideal for a task, but can do multiple tasks with at least 80% quality so that I don't have to carry around multiple tools.
Batoning, for example, is the the "little brother" of chopping or splitting wood with an axe, so the initial idea behind it is NOT to use the right tool.
I totally agree with you.
I know this comment is a bit old, but spot on. “Right tool for the job” is good when you don’t have to carry it all, and it’s at your house in the shed/workshop. The major anti-baton guys that comment against it on every video get old. We get it, an axe is better! It also weighs 3x as much as a midsized knife.
My dad says I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed
I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I am one of the sharp ones. 😎
My dad tells me I’m not the sharpest tool in the shed but out of the other 12 people I’m doing just fine.
When I was in a particular unit, our tasks were primarily forced entry and arrest of dangerous criminals. Sometimes against barricaded strongholds. We had many types of tools for that, manual tools like sledgehammers, axes, bars etc…plus specialised explosives to achieve fast entry and defeat of barricades/structures. As part of personal kit, every operator had a fixed blade. Not primarily for combat, but more for its use as an entry tool. A knife is a Basic Tool…it has attributes that can NOT be replicated by any other tool. I can expand and give specifics if you wish. The point is that it is necessary and in moments of need it is essential and irreplaceable by any other tool. Fast cutting ability, strength, reliability, ease of sharpening, edge retention, size, and economic reality all are factors for selecting an issue fixed blade for the task. I had my own, by choice, but the issue knife was the Glock with hard scabbard. It was ok, but not my choice. I didn’t know a lot about knives, but over the years I used a Kershaw flat grind, then a Cold Steel San Mai Tanto, and finally a Randall number 1, seven inch blade. Ka Bar for my bush kit. Everyone has their favourites, everyone has their own experiences. No knife is perfect, but you do need a knife for specific tasks. A moderate quality knife is better than none.
I love your channel because you test them in ways that make sense to me, and I can’t test so many knives as you do. Your channel has value, and I love what you do.
Well, as you surely know, the Glock Feldmesser M78 is more of a bayonet than a fighting knife (like the Ka-Bar type). It can also be afixed to the Stg77 as one.
I think it's only really useful for bushcraft when ground flat....otherwise it's a crowbar.
May I ask you about your opinions on the Extrema Ratio knives? Have you ever handeld one of these during your duty?
look up the specs for a Von Tempsky bowie by Svörd. Do you think it borders on inefficiency? I find it hard to understand why a knife needs to weigh 1kg.
I’m American and I appreciate your channel, I like the fact that you guys are humble and respectful
I use my F1 for cooking at home. That’s my way to survive in the wilderness of the kitchen!! Remember: The best knife is the tool for the job.
Please review more folders. We know that your test are not their intended use but we like to see what they can handle before they fail. I’m sure there are a lot of your other fans that agree!
Spot on. Remember you'll never know if you have the right blade for the right job unless you test it first to see what it can do. Can't rely on the manufacturer's claims!! DBK help us all by doing the testing for us.
You guys are doing great. I don't watch your channel to learn how to bushcraft. I watch to see you test the knives. How long will their edge last? How much will it take before it breaks? You guys find that limit which means we won't end up in a survival situation with a knife that can't handle the abuse that *may* be necessary. We all know that the chances of needing a knife to withstand this torture are almost 0%. I also watch because you guys have a great chemistry and don't take yourselves too seriously. Thank you, and keep it up. - Walter (Some dude in the middle of the USA)
After watching you guys for a long time I bought my first bushcraft knife. Mora Garberg Black, sure there are better knives but I think this is the best starter knife it has not lete down. Thanks guys.
Great choice!
If it’s your only knife with difficult bush craft chores in mind it’s a good choice If it’s not your only knife and you have lots of fixed blades, you should have one of those also 👍🏻
I watch your channel because of your true, honest, passion for knives 😊👍
Plus despite having financial arrangements they remain as unbiased as possible. Not focused on selling knives or supporting a particular brand. Have a great day.
You guys are my favorite knife testers. You are very entertaining and funny. Two good friends can have much more fun than then
Very valid points, I love seeing what a knife can handle even if it's not intended for that specific task.
Bought the Benchmade Puuko after discovering the knife on your channel. Perfectly fits the need for low weight hiking, batoning for firewood, food prep etc. Don't wanna carry an axe for a week's hiking.
Thanks guys - love your Thursday show
Glad you've enjoyed your puuko, I've been thinking of both that and the longer Leuko.
Love this channel for introducing me to different brands. The Terava knives, Hulterfors, the Peleton Ranger, Joker Knives.... I've tried a lot of knives I never heard of before, and have been introduced to a whole different style of knife.
@@J.sh_CDN For me weight is important, so I would still pick the smaller one. It can still do all you need to build a fire. Sounds like you already have other knives that are just as good though🙂
Folding saw and fulltang knife is a much better combo in terms of safety when you spend time outdoors with kids. Bahco laplander + hultafors or mora robust is cheap and effective, my choice for adolescents, never regret it.
Mora is an incredible amount of performance for the price. You could carry ten of them for what some people are spending on individual knives.
I like your view on not promoting your own knife......thats called being ethicsl and having integrity....something a lot of other channels dont have, they just pander to their sponsors
Yes, the very honest quote is: „We don’t do knives out of necessity, we do it out of fun.“ Any that‘s okay, it’s a nice hobby 😊
Mine is a necessity, it really is. Honestly. 😁. I asked my wife to bury me with at least one good knife and a flashlight but she insists she is going to sell them all😮.
Over the years I’ve gotten more minimalistic with my camp setup and would much rather take one knife that can do a variety of tasks instead of bringing a bunch of specialized tools.
Watching you guys has made me choose a Fallkniven f1x as my first fixed blade. Love what you guys do to show good quality knives and the not so good.
Perfect! Couldn’t agree more! 👍 I especially love your comments about survival at the 15:08 and knife use at 19:34.
On that Ka-Bar USMC, I'm a US Army vet. I never carried the Ka-Bar. It is, and always has been, a garbage knife. Most of us carried multi-tools like the Leatherman or relatively inexpensive folders like the CRKT M-16. The ones who went fixed blade carried ones from Buck or SOG. These days I go higher end and carry Spyderco, Benchmade, Giant Mouse, MKM, etc but the primary blades I carried in the Army were Leatherman and Gerber multi-tools. Granted, I was air defense artillery and if I was in hand-to-hand something had gone very wrong. I needed the pry tools and screwdrivers far more often than I needed a cutting edge.
CRKT M-16? Hahaha! I’ll take that Kanaar thank you very much. Otherwise if carrying a fixed blade an SRK OR OKC. Maybe even Gerber Ultimate Survival knife. I’ve seen on take a lot more than a Kanaar and not break.
I have slowly built quite a knife collection that includes custom knifes.
My goal was to have the ideal tool for the job. And also to make one that is ideal for most jobs.
But despite what I dislike about the mora 511, It's somehow the best I can find whenever I need one unscheduled.
That lead me to get so used to it, that I end up using it even when I am at home where my better ones are.
So maybe there is no best knife, just the one that haunts you most until it lives in your mind.
Right tool for the right job is fine if you're carrying around your toolbox reminds me of another saying.. Jack of all trades but a master of none... is oftentimes better than a master of one
Appreciate you guys👍
Ha! I only came across this quote yesterday, and now here it is !!
I'm a "right tool for the right job" type but I also think of it more in terms of "know the strengths and weaknesses of your tools". It's ok to want a small belt knife for camping or "bushcrafting" and it's also ok to want a big knife for that... you just need to be aware of the strengths and drawbacks of those and choose which you prefer. One is likely going to suffer a bit in the strength department and the other will suffer a bit in the fine-tasks department. Both CAN do both jobs for the most part, just in different ways and finding different workarounds. I think that is why it is good to practice bushcraft and outdoor skills with different tools so you can have different options when you need them. That is also why it is great to have channels like DBK to test and maybe find the strengths and weaknesses and limits of different knives.
You are right. Most of us don’t use our knives for survival, but for camping, hiking etc. mostly they are used for fun. Thanks 🔪🎸
Les is a true legend.We met him twice and saw him in concert.A real down to Earth kind of guy.
Excellent discussion. Good points on batoning, I had not thought of the safety advantage until recently. Maybe you mentioned it on an earlier video?
Good to see you guys more serious once in a while... 🙂
Thank God for you guys having the guts for doing the testing. If it wasn't for guys like you we wouldn't even know the capabilities of most of our knives. This is something we may carry every day or may buy as an envestment or to pass on down to family for generations, and to not even know the capabilities of the knives you choose... that just seems assonine.
As a UK resident I carry mostly non locking sub 3 inch bladed folders though I still have some great lock knives that I used to edc but now cannot because it is no longer legal to edc them. Crazy laws which will not stop kids cutting each other in gang fights with kitchen knives. We must protect the freedoms we have as law abiding knife lovers. I always enjoy your videos and reviews . Great informative entertainment albeit on kit that I will probably not ever own or use. Keep up the great work DBK!
DBT rules… I love the way you guys test knives keep it up !
Dutch Bushcraft Tools? Lol
Don't bite tobleron
You made me look at all my knives.
F1, sticks in your pocket, sturdy, incredibly sharp.
In love:
DBK, the Barkies and even the White River Ursus 45.
But if I had to pick _one_ - F1.
Love the F1. It was my first “good knife”. Now I have probably 30-40 knives, but the F1 still has a special place and is quite perfect as an all-around camp, bushcraft, survival knife.
You guys are the reason Thursday is the best day of the week. Love y'all
I'm with you guys about "survival" knives. You have to be able to trust that it will do anything because anything can happen in a survival situation. And we all know you don't baton with a folder but like you said you're trying to find the limits of a knife and if it happens to hold up to it then you know you have a top quality knife. I love your show and thank you.
Absolutely love your channel because it's almost 100% fixed blades (with a splash of awesome humour & pseudo manlove). So many channels cover folders but fixed blades don't get enough love. I hike & camp regularly & out bush it's all about fixed blades. We should remember that quotes & sayings are very generalised & don't bear close scrutiny. Picking the right blade for the job is important; but you don't know it's the right blade until you put it to the test to find out what it can do!! Guys - don't change & keep up the fixed blade love. Sharp blades all.
I'm picturing in my head a tv special with Immler and Stroud trying to get down the Andes together With only a champ and a spirit.
This was so good on so many levels. But I agree we just love knives and using different knives just to see how they perform is a real joy but there is still something more to it that has no real explanation. That's when I think of the famous Bob Loveless quote: "When a man picks up a knife, there's an old memory from the collective unconscious that surfaces. A knife is an atavistic experience. It was [one of] man's first tool and weapon. Man was chipping flint into cutting edges before he invented the wheel. No matter how sophisticated we become, a knife takes us back to the cave."
I totally agree on your considerations. Good work as usual, guys
Ahh Martin, I carry the sam bugout in aluminum. Completely agree about it's slimness. I always have to double check my pocket that it's there before leaving home. Love that knife.
The Bugout is like a modern Opinel, with a slim slim blade and being super light Weight, but with the modern benefits of a pocket clip, one hand open and close, and a much better steel.
It's like the modern Slipjoint folder too, same slim slim blade for cutting but with much better features
Agree with everything you said. And I only everyday knife fight for survival, not to kill. With a machete, stiletto, or whatever else I happen to EDC with that day.
Yeah I also carry the Benchmade bugout, that is probably my favorite knife I never leave home without it.
Glad to see that you made a video about the Fallkniven GP
Not using out of necessity? Absolutely right!! Most of my knife use (to baton wood, strike a Ferro, food prep, etc) is within sight of my house. And I almost always have an axe within reach AND a lighter in my pocket. I use a knife as a tool for these activities because it is FUN!! Keep the fun coming, guys
Don’t let the trolls tell you you’re doing anything wrong, this channel is awesome, you guys show us what 99% of us want to see. My fixed blade collection has grown because you showed me knives I never even knew about.
The Cold Steel Finnwolf folder is a far better knife for the price than the Benchmades imo. Scandi grind, very solid lock and NO play side to side in the blade. Worth a look for any outdoor uses. Never gonna replace a fixed blade or be a one knife survival tool but excellent quality and value for the price.
100%. I am an avid hiker/camper and own 2 of these. They are my default folder when I go out bush. The knife works hard and the triad lock gives excellent blade security. AUS8 takes a sharp edge and is very easy to maintain in the field. On top of that are low cost so if you lose it there are no tears (try losing a Benchmade and having to replace). Very easy to recommend. Have a great day.
@@realbroggoWhile I agree with everything else you said, if you're really that scared of losing your pocket knife you can wallet chain it to your pants. :)
Cold steel is junk people who weren’t around when he got followed by news for a while. They don’t know what a turd they are buying knives from.
Telling me you own a cold steel is like saying you didn’t graduate middle school. And you definitely didn’t graduate high school. Good luck little buddie.
Guys love smash up derbys and seeing things get wrecked and watched you two destroy knives is no different. Silly fun.
Cold Steel Mayhem! It's time for the ultimate folder test!
Great video guys! It's so fun to try and find the perfect knife, but I agree with the sentiment that whatever knife you have on you is what will have to work. I carry a Leatherman in my EDC for that reason! I feel very inspired by the people on Alone and of course Les Stroud. But I love my woods knives anytime I'm outside I like to carry my precious fixed blades.
The videos are actually showing us what we can do when we DON’T have the right tool for the right job. It’s fun!
Great comment! Have a great day!
As a former carpenter, i would like to have my toolbox with me all the time, but...
I've batoned with my Civi edc.
Was wicked surprised how well it held up.
No wiggle no blade chip.
I once got lost in the Mountains of the Home country of my parents in the balkans. I was lost for 3 days with very little food in a rough terrain. I had my Condor Knife which served me with everything i could imagine. Firewood, shelter really anything. No one would ever Classify that Condor bushlore as a survival Knife but it served me well. Would i want a different knife i had to chose ? Yes of course, but me having no problems with my condor showed that survival us mostly bushcraft. (I made that whole thing up btw)
LOL legendary comment
I own and have read both Les Les Strouds and Cody Lundins books. Both are exceptional. Especially Codys.
you always have the right tool with you , your brain with it you can overcome any obstacle or challenge.
Why pay attention to those people that comment on subjects they don’t understand, they are clearly ignorant to the purpose of your channel? I started watching you channel because i wanted to buy one knife that would hold up to field use without me having to do all these reviews myself…i settled on a bark river and its because of DBK.
21:40 - "we like scamming you, but not that much" Quote of the video
On the other end of the Spectrum from the right tool for the right job guys, you have the cold steel guys who get upset when an expensive or thin knife can’t take apart a car door.
I love this video! I can relate to those questions so much since i always have friends questioning my choice in which knife I carry, why I have so many knives and why I love them so much. I basically tell them the exact same things you did in the video. Love you guys!
Just choose a Leuku when youre in doubt. It can do it all in the survival and military scene.
I work in a commercial kitchen and get to use knives all day long. I love it!!
Every time I think that one of these guys is funnier than the other one, they prove me wrong. The best part about it is that they are just being themselves. It doesn’t feel like an act.
Love the video as always! Great work. I don’t always agree with everything. Definitely not the prices of most things. But I have still always appreciated the videos/hard work that goes into them. God bless you both and your families!
For me it's not about agreeing all the time. It's about getting different perspectives and making you think. Have a great day.
@@realbroggo agreed.
I can imagine you guys ending up owning Europe's largest knife store.
Me and TC @SMKW coined the term “ stunt knife “ as the knife that comes out and does the real work instead of the pretty ones that could do it too . I’m guilty of it . “ no no , don’t use that one , use this one “ 😂
Thank you for validating my esteem of Busse knives in INFI steel. If I lose all of my other knives, I would want my Busse knife to be my last remaining knife.
But in reality, I hope to also have several other knives of various sizes and shapes. Like a filet knife, a skinner knife, a bayonet for mountain lion or wild boar defense, a multi tool knife, a small, lightweight knife that is begging to be part of my smallest survival kit, and a dedicated Bushcraft knife that is fully intended to be disrespected just like it's owner. And that short list could be expanded.
That's all for extreme long-term survival concerns. For backpacking you also have to consider the "Go Light" mantra that narrows your choices considerably.
So many knives, so many choices!!!
By far, you guys have the best knife reviews!!
It is a useful to see how tough these folders are. I suspect in a survival situation an unbroken knife would be more useful than a potentially split log
I really hope you try the new Real Steel Pathfinder, they are calling it a folding Bushcraft knife, it has a zero scandi grind, 14c steel and a 3.75” blade
I mainly have folders cause I love to carry them and fidget, I have a few zombie apocalypse fix blades and a few bush craft blades cause I go bush. Love knives all of them
EDC a Bushcraft/Survival knife, problems solved! Haha, i have a Benchmade Anonimus in my pocket right now.
P.S. All your points make sense. Great Video!
You’re good, keep doing you. It was actually advanced knife bro using a bugout to spit wood that made me ok with spending that much money. Because yeah, sometimes all you have is your folder
I always feel too, that if it can survive something like batoning, it means it will survive all the normal stuff that I do
You guys are the reason I cannot fully commit to being an edc bro
I carry a 4-5 inch fixed blade for edc, but I also carry an edc folder for lite duty tasks. A larger fixed blade rides in my pack for extra hard use when I go out into the forest. I don’t want to abuse light duty knives, but at the same time, I don’t want to peel apples with an eight inch blade.
Mora bushcraft survival knife for me. All day. Everyday.
Been using it for last couple years. Works well enough for many tasks and only weighs a few ounces. One of the most comfortable grips too by far.
And then there is Felix Immler, the king of swiss army knives.
I agree totally with both of your ethics and think it's great that you guys put blades through the wringers.
My ex wife used to tell me that I should have been a product tester, because I can break anything, sometimes with no effort at all.
It took me 20 years to finally break her, she divorced me, but that's her doing, I told her I was never growing up!
..... And she was the smart one😂😂😂😂
I’ll just note regarding your analogy of a car crashing into a wall. One of the greatest commercials ever was BMV, demonstrating a Volvo crashing into a wall. The statement was some cars are designed to handle a crash.Then they showed theBMV last second swerving & missing the wall. And then the immortal words.Our cars are designed to avoid crashing.😀
Thank you for the extra long video 😊. For the price of most Benchmades I can get a Survive fixed blade. Right now they have 4 inch blade edc 4 sabre grind or ffg 4 for $239 to mail out within 2 weeks. I have waited for over a year for some but they also have some ghat will mail out fairly quickly. I do edc folders (no limit to size in my state) but feel better with a fixed blade.
I'm not dogging you guys I love your content. The KABAR is what it was designed for a long time ago, I have a few versions but I know the limits of the design from my own experiences trying to use it for things beyond its design abilities. It will always be an iconic symbol but limitted on its capabilities.
Very true. It is the very knife that made me want a knife as a kid.
I see you deleted my first comment about your fledgling facial follicles.
I have an original Robeson Suredge mk2 that I bent the tang on from throwing it at trees at age 13. I have a Kabar and a few other ontario knife versions. But there all about the same "limited" by the tang and steel.
There's a huge difference between purposefully going into the woods and oh crap I'm in a survival situation with what I happen to be carrying. These tests are completely useful and valid for getting reliable data that if the crap hits the fan you can push your knife into service and have confidence in it withstanding that use and abuse.
Good video guys. Combat utility blades are indeed just for utility. My issue M2 bayonet was one of the strongest blades I owned and got used for a multitude of every day tasks. Also good for defending oneself from a car tyre (peace time bayonet training). Cheers 🇳🇱 🇳🇿
My Grandfather was a Swiss cavallry soldier. He died before my time, but i remenber his Bayonett, It wasnt as much a thrusting weapon, but like a thick machete with a saw ridge. Obviously to clear brush on those paths, no car would ever pass, but they and their pack horses had to travel on. Could still stick it on the carbine, if he had to though.
@@Gunni1972 thanks for sharing that. The old bayonets are incredibly well made. I got gifted a cut down WW1 Lee Enfield bayonet I have in the garage. Interesting about the design you mentioned. A lot of thought went into that
Military knife with light weight. Leatherman skeletool CX. One hand opening, decent steel, pocket clip, and is a multi tool. That was my go to field knife
Beavis and Butt-head 😂
I'd rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it. I'm one of those people who hike with 40+ lbs and have an axe, saw, fixed blade, folder, multi tool, and usually my Mora robust is thrown in the pack too, just cause its awesome!
It's like seeing Arnold Schwarzenegger's children talking about knives, very good job, you are the best
You are absolutely right
It’s good to have fun and do tests. As a soldier and police officer, the knives I carried were important and over the years changed. They could see hard use, and early on I broke a lot of tips. Now I buy better blades for my use, AND try to use my blades better.
Horses for courses (another English term for: The right tool for the job). Great video.
On topic of gear taken into woods or kept in trunk, I find a small knife and a good machete covers about every need without being over heavy. Small knife does accuracy and machete taking thinner branches or breaking approx arm thick logs via baton. Naturally if you like axes (which i do) can definitely be part of regular gear but even with axes there is design choices that affect what it does well so compromises and "misuse" will be done
i like how falkniven was like no and benchamade said go for it scamp lol
I worked for a few decades as a field biologist and we were regularly in very remote places in all seasons. There was always a chance that a helicopter wouldn't be able to come out and pick us up or our transportation would otherwise fail us so we could be stuck for quite a while under difficult conditions.
I always carried a "bushcraft" knife because it was an extremely useful tool. However, I also had a solid "basher" with me as well because you want a reliable backup... always. Also, a hand saw is crucial and quite a bit lighter than an axe (and you have the basher knife as a back up in case it breaks).
I agree with you that most people buy knives because they like to have knives, not because they are ever likely to really need to depend on one for their life.
Nothing wrong with having a lot of tools for similar jobs, as long as you have one with you when you need it.
You guys are 100% right 🎉